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Title: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Gordonium on July 03, 2013, 01:36:17 AM
I just don't get it. I mean, I use to think that they are total tools, but more I hear about them, more my appreciation grows for them.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: tclo on July 03, 2013, 01:42:27 AM
Probably from their portrayal in the movie, where they are painted as somewhat arrogant rich kids.    Most people cannot differentiate realty from fantasy.

I don't have any problem with them.  I really don't care about them one way or the other.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: bbit on July 03, 2013, 02:20:03 AM
I just don't get it. I mean, I use to think that they are total tools, but more I hear about them, more my appreciation grows for them.

I agree. They are growing on me!


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Cudahuda on July 03, 2013, 05:02:41 AM
People can't differentiate between the movie and real life.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: zoinky on July 03, 2013, 05:04:36 AM
Probably from their portrayal in the movie, where they are painted as somewhat arrogant rich kids.    Most people cannot differentiate realty from fantasy.

I don't have any problem with them.  I really don't care about them one way or the other.

It must suck having your first impression forever ruined by a movie.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: worldinacoin on July 03, 2013, 05:05:57 AM
Maybe it is because of jealously?  They have 1% of all Bitcoins!


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: AliceWonder on July 03, 2013, 05:13:38 AM
Never saw the movie.
Don't care who they are.
Don't care what they do.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: bitbybit2 on July 03, 2013, 06:58:18 AM
Hatred is relative. Anyways they came from the educational conveyor belt of powers-that-be. That's why we hate them and because they lost in the Beijing Olympics.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Mahn on July 03, 2013, 07:54:43 AM
The problem with the Winklevii is that it's pretty damn obvious they got into Bitcoin primarily due to its speculative potential, not so much because they believe on it. We know for a fact they are driven by money.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: asically on July 03, 2013, 08:16:33 AM
Because we all know their true intention is to create another crap alt.

TwinCoin: The new Alternating Hashing Algorithm. ;) AHA


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Gordonium on July 03, 2013, 09:41:27 AM
The problem with the Winklevii is that it's pretty damn obvious they got into Bitcoin primarily due to its speculative potential, not so much because they believe on it. We know for a fact they are driven by money.

What's wrong about being driven in money? I am also driven by money, but that doesn't mean that I'm not interested about technology and economics behind Bitcoin.

Besides how many other multimillionaire jocks you know that are interested in Bitcoin? If they weren't interested about Bitcoin or about technology in general they could be partying around the clock. The fact that they use their time and money instead in Bitcoins shows clearly that they are interested in it.



Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Professor James Moriarty on July 03, 2013, 09:45:41 AM

 I like them and to be honest the movie made me hate mark rather than the twins , the movie made me like them :D mark stole their idea why would anyone hate people who were robbed?


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: d5000 on July 03, 2013, 09:54:30 AM

 I like them and to be honest the movie made me hate mark rather than the twins , the movie made me like them :D mark stole their idea why would anyone hate people who were robbed?

Both "stole" the idea of sixdegrees.com. Ideas are free.

I don't like neither the Winklevii nor Zuck very much.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: jago25_98 on July 03, 2013, 09:59:35 AM
Anybody actually know if they are jocks as in the movie?
Separately, are they annoying as in the movie?
Have they always been from a monied background?

And is Facebook actually a ripoff of their site contrary to the lawsuit? What was their site called?


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: asically on July 03, 2013, 10:04:09 AM

 I like them and to be honest the movie made me hate mark rather than the twins , the movie made me like them :D mark stole their idea why would anyone hate people who were robbed?

If it was up to them alone, we wouldn't have Facebook because someone with actually skill was needed to implement the idea.

The twins are a moral hazard and may not have the permission to spend family money.

How far will they go to get back at Mark?


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Gordonium on July 03, 2013, 11:00:15 AM
If it was up to them alone, we wouldn't have Facebook because someone with actually skill was needed to implement the idea.

I have a huge respect for a  Mark and he is one of my heroes. And it is clear that it was Zuck's vision that made Facebook what it is today.

But you have to see both sides of the coin. If you would hire an engineer to develop your site and he would made you believe that he was working on it, but then out of blue he would publish himself website that has lot of similarities with your site. Wouldn't you be pissed off? And honestly: If that site would one day be worth of billions, wouldn't you sue him?


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Gabi on July 03, 2013, 11:55:59 AM
Probably from their portrayal in the movie, where they are painted as somewhat arrogant rich kids.    Most people cannot differentiate realty from fantasy.
This sounds like the book "The Robots of Dawn" where the people think Elijah is like in the movie  :D


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: FirstAscent on July 03, 2013, 12:10:19 PM
They are the classic example of software startup failure due to lack of programming talent.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Gordonium on July 03, 2013, 12:37:37 PM
They are the classic example of software startup failure due to lack of programming talent.

I wouldn't call them a failure. I mean what kind of car are you driving? What kind of girls are you dating? How much money do you have in your bank account?

 Truth is that Winklewiis are winners in this life.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: asically on July 03, 2013, 02:02:21 PM
 ::)

Driving your parents car don't count.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: bitbryan on July 03, 2013, 02:05:29 PM
I just don't get it. I mean, I use to think that they are total tools, but more I hear about them, more my appreciation grows for them.

anyone that supports bitcoin enough to publically make a bitcoin startup is AWESOME in my book... but agreed they are total tools!


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Damnsammit on July 03, 2013, 02:15:01 PM

I have a huge respect for a  Mark and he is one of my heroes. And it is clear that it was Zuck's vision that made Facebook what it is today.


A cesspool of idiocy filled with kitten pictures and advertisements to help someone on their virtual farm?

Facebook hasn't been cool in years.  


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Lethn on July 03, 2013, 02:18:47 PM
I don't hate the Winkelvoss twins, I don't really hate Zuckerburg either, I do think they're a bunch of douchebags though, it's a bit like some of the internet drama you see even on this forum where you see two people having a clearly private fight in an extremely public way and are taking advantage of the attention they're getting when it's just totally unnecessary. The only reason I myself use facebook is because unfortunately most of my friends use it, I tend to just use it for messaging and chatting, I do think you have to be a complete fool to broadcast your life like that as well which is why I jerk facebook around by not posting any of my real details up etc. lol :D.

Yeah, it's good people like them are taking an interest in Bitcoin I suppose, it just goes to show you that Bitcoin is becoming a real currency because if they're learning about it then it won't be long before everyone else joins in too.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: tkbx on July 03, 2013, 02:20:15 PM
Because people don't seem to understant that it's called a movie, not a documentary, for a reason.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: greyhawk on July 03, 2013, 02:59:32 PM
Oh pleeeease, just look at these people.

http://cdn.cnwimg.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Winklevoss-Twins.jpg

Tell me you can look at these douches without feeling an ever growing need to bash their faces in, I dare you.

Look at this shit.

http://images.derstandard.at/2013/07/02/1371234205508-winklevoss.jpg



Loooooook at this.

http://www.vanityfair.com/business/features/2011/12/winklevosses-201112/_jcr_content/par/cn_contentwell/par-main/cn_pagination_contai/cn_image.size.winklevosses.jpg

Here's a stick. Here's a head. You know you want to. Let that desire consume you.




http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef01539019a76f970b-640wi

Can you hear the "Splorrrcht" in your mind? How good it sounds? Can you imagine the wails of the brother yet unhit? The symphony of broken organs?

Indulge yourself. Let there be hurt and let there be pain.


From the desk of Mark Zuckerberg
http://techmento.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/facebook_winklevoss_02-300x300.jpg


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: FirstAscent on July 03, 2013, 04:16:29 PM
They are the classic example of software startup failure due to lack of programming talent.

I wouldn't call them a failure. I mean what kind of car are you driving? What kind of girls are you dating? How much money do you have in your bank account?

 Truth is that Winklewiis are winners in this life.

Actually, they are not. The only reason they have money is because:

A. They started out with some.
B. The got lucky when they chose their programmer.

Although their programmer bailed on them, it just so happened that Facebook happened.

Imagine if they hadn't chose Zuckerberg. Two things most likely would've happened:

1. The programmer would've been compliant, and the twins would've been calling the shots. Likely, nothing huge would've happened.
2. The programmer wouldn't have been very good.

You see, it actually takes programmers to determine if programmers are any good at what they do. That's the number two rule in venture capital. Number one is passion.

Here's another tidbit of info: Really good programmers go on to become venture capitalists. And they know how to pick good startups founded by programmers (with passion).

The twins are neither programmers with passion, nor venture capitalist material. What they are is a pair of aspiring venture capitalists who are too stupid to realize that they shouldn't be in that business.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Gordonium on July 03, 2013, 05:44:38 PM
Actually, they are not. The only reason they have money is because:

So what? It's all about bucks, rest is just conversation. Even if you win by luck, you are still winner.

Here's another tidbit of info: Really good programmers go on to become venture capitalists. And they know how to pick good startups founded by programmers (with passion).

The twins are neither programmers with passion, nor venture capitalist material. What they are is a pair of aspiring venture capitalists who are too stupid to realize that they shouldn't be in that business.

Sure, but there are exceptions to every rule (Im not saying that the twins are, but that doesn't matter). Some of the best VCs are from non-programming backrounds. In your view someone like Peter Thiel isnt VC material? Well, quess what? He is.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: bitbryan on July 03, 2013, 05:54:21 PM
they got jacked by a gross little nerd like zuckerberg


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: FirstAscent on July 03, 2013, 05:58:20 PM
they got jacked by a gross little nerd like zuckerberg

Best thing that ever happened to them.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on July 03, 2013, 06:10:16 PM
The problem with the Winklevii is that it's pretty damn obvious they got into Bitcoin primarily due to its speculative potential, not so much because they believe on it. We know for a fact they are driven by money.

If I recall correctly, at one time--not too long ago--us bitcoiners were seeking any notables to embrace Bitcoin regardless of their personal motives for doing such. Reason being is that a rising tide raises all ships.

Should we halt Worpress's embracing of Bitcoin simply because they may have done so for the potential profit oppose to only loving its fundamentals?

To paraphrase some movie line, "Profit is good!"


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: bitbryan on July 03, 2013, 06:19:42 PM
they got jacked by a gross little nerd like zuckerberg

Best thing that ever happened to them.

hahaha omg your soooooo right!!! they got the only recognition they would hve ever gotten!


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: asically on July 03, 2013, 06:39:21 PM
I'm almost sure they tried to screw zuckerberg and ended up getting screwed themselves. It's really hard to cheat an honest person.

Now mark is a BILLIONARE in stocks leaving us with these heart broken Douche seeking a second chance.

The twins are attempting to match zuckerberg success with the help of Bitcoin, as if this is some kinda love triangle....






Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Gordonium on July 03, 2013, 06:45:00 PM
I'm almost sure they tried to screw zuckerberg and ended up getting screwed themselves. It's really hard to cheat an honest person.

Now mark is a BILLIONARE in stocks leaving us with these heart broken Douche seeking a second chance.

The twins are attempting to match zuckerberg success with the help of Bitcoin, as if this is some kinda love triangle....

Well I am pretty sure that twins made also more money with Facebook than what your whole family will made in their whole lifetimes. It is not like they went broke or something. I mean, camoon...


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: bitbryan on July 09, 2013, 04:26:56 PM
I'm almost sure they tried to screw zuckerberg and ended up getting screwed themselves. It's really hard to cheat an honest person.

Now mark is a BILLIONARE in stocks leaving us with these heart broken Douche seeking a second chance.

The twins are attempting to match zuckerberg success with the help of Bitcoin, as if this is some kinda love triangle....

Well I am pretty sure that twins made also more money with Facebook than what your whole family will made in their whole lifetimes. It is not like they went broke or something. I mean, camoon...

they defintly tried to bully zuckerberg into doing what they wanted thinking they could control the nerd. they failed. MESERABLY! now lets move onto something that seems to have monitary value on the internet so lets try and bullly the bitcoin community. they are going to fail miserably.

one of their sponsors are bitinstant, idk whats going on with bitinstant but they arent doing transactions thatts for sure.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: Gordonium on July 09, 2013, 07:25:17 PM
they failed. MESERABLY!

They made millions with the law suit. How is that failing miserably? How much money have you made in your life?


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: bitbryan on July 09, 2013, 07:28:16 PM
they failed. MESERABLY!

They made millions with the law suit. How is that failing miserably? How much money have you made in your life?

failed in a sence they did not accomplish what they had set out to do. not failed in becoming infamous or millionairs, so whats with the attitude Gordonium?


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: FirstAscent on July 09, 2013, 07:39:48 PM
they failed. MESERABLY!

They made millions with the law suit. How is that failing miserably? How much money have you made in your life?

They only made millions because they had the random and lucky fortune to have chosen Zuckerberg as their programmer. Best thing that ever happened to them.

They are essentially lottery winners. I generally don't judge someone's merit by virtue of the fact that said person won a lottery.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: hany103 on July 10, 2013, 10:27:35 AM
I don't hate them but the movie gave me a bad first impression.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: cryptoanarchist on July 10, 2013, 04:29:45 PM
They look like inbred elitists.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: bitbryan on July 10, 2013, 05:24:42 PM
They look like inbred elitists.

their chins can be used as a flotation device.


Title: Re: Why there is so much hatred towards the Winklewii?
Post by: atariguy on July 10, 2013, 10:34:33 PM
If you saw the movie (or even if you didn't) you should really read the book it's based on: The Accidental Billionaires.