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Title: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Vladdirescu87 on December 01, 2017, 05:25:44 PM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: mR.k0fka on December 01, 2017, 05:26:56 PM
bullshit lol
the new projects that come always come with a use case and for a reason
there will be more and more crypto's and they all will find some use case
and some of them will be only for trading

only the bad coins and the scams will die
its not 95% ..  ;)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Anton_notnA on December 01, 2017, 05:29:37 PM
You better be a fortune teller,lol :D


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: debuni on December 01, 2017, 05:33:17 PM
I'm on the same wave with you but I find it normal. Many projects doesn't have anything real behind them and they are collecting money because of the mass hype. However, 95% is too harsh number. I would say 75%-80% will not survive or at least their price will fall to similar levels.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: illiki23 on December 01, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
I love how people just arbitrarily throw out percentages.

"99% of ICOs are scams",  "95% of coins will die out".

In reality we choose these numbers for psychological and emotion reasons rather than rational reasons.

Reminds me of the joke:  "Did you know that ... 85% of all statistics are made up on the spot?"

:P


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Raist on December 01, 2017, 05:37:01 PM
Obviously Bitcoin is an apple of cryptoindustry. Just because it was the 1st. Who tasted it and still holding really liked it's taste.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: crypto233 on December 01, 2017, 05:45:28 PM
Though i agree a lot of them will die off. I think 95% is a bit of a reach. Good read either way tho! I hope the ones i am involved in do become that "5%". Already putting together blueprints for my yacht.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: daunjuan on December 01, 2017, 05:49:01 PM
95% fail yes, I assume you are counting all the airdrop coins then?
But 2018? The alts haven't really taken off yet and the market just started to get real attention.
But then again it's cryptoland, anything is possible.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: DarkGoddess on December 01, 2017, 05:49:35 PM
Though i agree a lot of them will die off. I think 95% is a bit of a reach. Good read either way tho! I hope the ones i am involved in do become that "5%". Already putting together blueprints for my yacht.

All I see now is useless ico after ico.

I so wish it want to stop.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: uslfd on December 01, 2017, 05:54:38 PM
Well yes indeed I personally also do not like ICO which are in reality, scams.
To see a healthy long term bull market we'd have to clean out the ICO space to make sure governments do not just ban crypto altogether because they feel the ICO space is too messy to regulate.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: summonerrk on December 01, 2017, 05:59:17 PM
I heard about it in the speech of Vitalik Buterin. But the fact is that he only supposed it. This is not an exact law.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: lunafreya on December 01, 2017, 06:01:54 PM
It is true most of the new projects just want to gather people's money and get away with it. This is why we have so many useless coins around. If this trend continues it would not surprise me to see the situation you mentioned in 2018.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: adam1230 on December 01, 2017, 06:03:53 PM
people were saying same words for doge and ltc in 2014 and now they are still alive and there are too many shit coins still alive.
so at least %40 will survive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: VarDiff on December 01, 2017, 06:10:54 PM
Obviously Bitcoin is an apple of cryptoindustry. Just because it was the 1st. Who tasted it and still holding really liked it's taste.

But wait, Apple wasn't a first company who made a desktop computer, first company who made a mobile phone or MP3 player.
They were the best but wasn't first. Why do people think that be the first is the same like be the best? Many things that we use every day are the result of many iterations and we don't use the first prototype, because of first prototypes, pioneers, are usually ugly and inconvenient.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Murloc on December 01, 2017, 06:18:13 PM
Just open shitcoinmarketcap and you will find that big part of the listed coins have a tiny 24h volume and can be already concidered as a dead coin. Hopefully later the market will be purged but I doubt this will happen.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: penig on December 01, 2017, 06:20:44 PM
Coinmarketcap lists 1350 coins and tokens.  So 5% survive is 65.  Frankly I don't think there are that many genuine, viable long term projects, once you take account of consolidation (How many privacy coins do you need?  How many platforms do you need? How many decentralised market applications do you need).  Its just like the dotcom era, many people with whimsical projects that people are throwing money at on a promise for great financial gain, but without a lot of product, or experience to deliver.  

Maybe not 2018, but at some point many of the ones you know will collapse and fade, many others will limp on for years to big to go but ridiculed for their failure to achieve their promise (think Yahoo of the dotcom world).  Also something new will appear in the coming months and years to create a new buzz (Facebook was years late to the online world).


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Agozyen on December 01, 2017, 06:25:54 PM
I think you need to have a better definition of failure.  Crypto is unlike any other financial instrument or business.  Not as big as Ethereum does not equate to failure.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: QFT on December 01, 2017, 06:27:47 PM
i wish crypto can by regulated
many scam coin everyday

Many scams, that's true, but crypto is about decentralization not centralization or regulation.
If you mean for ico's to be regulated then that's another point.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: uszaty43 on December 01, 2017, 06:48:14 PM
If you are talking about those ico's who were not succesfull, then you are right, they are not going to survive just because of this: There is no way that people can not be convinced to keep their funds in that project if it is not profitable for them.

People is always hunting money, and if they realize that they can make much more money just by holding those funds in bitcoin, they will leave that project sooner or later.

But 95%, that is pretty unfair.

You should know that there are aprox 5,000 altcoins listed. a five percent of that is just 250.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Irriducibili on December 01, 2017, 06:55:04 PM
Lol that's a pure provocation! Crypto-market will grow by 2 times in 2018, I believe.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Igor17Krik on December 01, 2017, 07:11:01 PM
I think your numbers are a little high. I do see a normal good projects is about 30%


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: SlimShadyMmp on December 01, 2017, 07:23:40 PM
Look so many people are going to agree with you, Yes some ICOs dont even deserve to be on blockchain but 95% is really a big number you need to slow down. I am sure there lot of successful Icos out there some even are done and people invested and profited Also there are lots of scams out there you just have to know where and how to invest


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Honglee on December 01, 2017, 07:26:45 PM
Everything can happen in crypto world!!!!!!!!!!!!

even shit coin survived, lol


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: SparkyU on December 01, 2017, 07:44:44 PM
95% of statistics are made up on the spot.  As crypto becomes bigger it only makes sense that the money flowing into it get diversified into many different areas.  If anything that would cause more projects to survive, not less.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: LancienMaleAlpha on December 01, 2017, 07:58:55 PM
Scam coins will certainly disappear. For example there's a Terraminer project. The project looks scammy. Besides, those guys are going to hold one more ICO. It's a clear sign they are gonna collect money and disappear along with their coins.  ;D


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: coldmedalgostarican on December 01, 2017, 08:00:05 PM
The 95% is somewhat around my own prediction but not in 2018! That is waaaay too early for so many to die off and there will be a constant stream of replacements.

I do think most coins which is not a blockchain will die off during the next 2-3 years when they have burned through most of the ICO funds they collected. I see this tendency already that most projects are run by developers and not business men. They do not care about cashburn etc. They only care about the product which is fine but it needs to make money too!


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: rejosh on December 01, 2017, 08:11:42 PM
I would say most ECR 20 tokens will disappear or go down to nothing in 2018. Some good projects like OMG ,RPX and Cindicator might survive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: bananadines on December 01, 2017, 08:12:19 PM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg

Yeah, there are a lot of coins that are going to die. There are few big and great project that will survive and there will come more great and big stuff with an amazing real life usecase.  8)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: ololajulo on December 01, 2017, 08:21:47 PM
The sight of the percentage growth of ethereum and iota after Ico is interesting, with all sincerity few projects can do that. More so they came in at a good time. those product can be made better with a new team, the unprecedented idea made a lot of provision for coming needs.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: TeaPanda on December 01, 2017, 08:32:14 PM
If by 95% of cryptocurrencies failing by 2018 you mean to lose mkt cap in 2018, I highly doubt unless the bubble finally pops, if you mean a cryptocurrency sticking to their roadmap that % doesn't seem too far off


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: OLDARH on December 01, 2017, 08:38:58 PM
Judging by the number of projects that have not taken off, the figure of 95% seems even a little understated. I would say that only 2-3% are successful and China has banned these fraudulent schemes that steal money from credulous investors.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: China8888 on December 01, 2017, 08:48:33 PM
I do not agree with the OP and title. They will still be around mostly. Sure some will fail, bad things will happen. But for 95% to die no way. Surely at least 20% of the current ones available have a bright future, until they get replaced by something new


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dumplingsandsushi on December 01, 2017, 08:56:14 PM
Why exactly is it 95%? Why not 94 or 96%?
Well, that's because that 95% is a totally made up number.
It's set high to give the impression that basically all except a few projects are going to die and the few that remain are going to make people stinkin rich.

This is all subjective speculation in disguise of economic data so don't let it fool you.
The basis of blockchain technology is that it is alive as long as there are people using it, mining it, or buying/selling it.
With this in mind, I highly doubt that 95% of cryptocurrencies will not survive.

Just look at good ol dogecoin.
It's still alive and kicking because there is a community around it.

As far as gaining profit from crypto's than I would tend to believe that the majority of projects will not give you insane returns like eth or iota (using the examples you used).
But one thing you need to realize is that a lot of people think those type of huge gains are normal; they are absolutely not normal.
How many cryptocurrencies are there? And out of all of them how many had tens of thousands of percent returns?
Yeah, not so much.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Aaroenz0r on December 01, 2017, 09:01:16 PM
In my opinion, this is just a fake news. Although most ICOs are scams, we dont have anything can prove 95% crypto will be disappeared. Dont worry


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: topesis on December 01, 2017, 09:35:39 PM
It is not possible for 95% of all Cryptocurrencies to just die like that, I believe we will see most of them fade out in 3 to 5 years, first I believe the burn rate of most of these projects is to high and since they have not start generating profit it is going to be difficult to continue the project, those that are wise among them will likely get absorb into a bigger or similar project


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: uncleduckerr on December 01, 2017, 09:47:49 PM
I think you need to have a better definition of failure.  Crypto is unlike any other financial instrument or business.  Not as big as Ethereum does not equate to failure.

True but not reaching your goals for ICO=failure. Not coming through on promises=failure. And scamming surely is a failure for the investor. There are soo many traps in crypto now I realize that if you are a noob and you are not careful you could be done within a month and be turned off for good. It sucks how easily you can get money in todays crypto a few years ago you were lucky to get a few hundred thousand dollars. The hype is real and people are buying into the hype.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dietmarfritz59 on December 01, 2017, 10:04:34 PM
I totally agree with this! ICOs are popping up so often and so frequently now that almost all of them will die out and fade away.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: rainbow169 on December 01, 2017, 10:34:49 PM
I agree that with normal reasoning, a significant number of business behind existing ICO coins will suffer in 2018. One because new project will keep coming  and thus adding competitive pressure to existing ones, even to those with good ideas. And after a year, for those that are not keeping up with the promised road map, or never deliver anything (scams) should see their value significantly reduced.

However we are not talking about stock market here, where there are regulations for reporting and auditing and protection of investors. The current crypto market is a Wide Wide West. ICO startup can just keep making hype without being audited and even if they do fail, they are not forced to be de-listed and might be seen as good pump and dump target as the market cap contracts.

The current market is more a speculation and confidence game as people are rushing for returns no matter what the model is. Just look at the success of bitconnect, a ponzi scheme that lasts this long is unbelievable. Should this coin fail, yes, absolutely. But it didn't as it has made a lot money for many people. Nothing is impossible at this stage just like the wide wide west. But we need to move on to the next stage eventually for long term growth. Some regulation for ICO and Institutional investment may help to change the situation for the better in 2018.

If we see a large number of coin failure in 2018, it might be a short term pain but a long term gain.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Endikadija on December 01, 2017, 10:51:07 PM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg

Yeah, there are a lot of coins that are going to die. There are few big and great project that will survive and there will come more great and big stuff with an amazing real life usecase.  8)
I share my thought about that, Majority of person are seeing until the next top 200 - 300 list on the coinmarketcap. The altcoin that alreayd placed above top 300 can be considered as another shit or die coin. And why? it's easy to determine the crap coin. Those people were only interested with coin that has majority of the suppot by the crypto users. it should be around top 1 - 300 in the coinmarketcap.
That's only 20 percent from the total coin that already listed on the coinmarketcap.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: 99th on December 01, 2017, 11:07:18 PM
Could be possible only if you include all the cryptocurrencies created just to make a profit off an ICO and then split. Those are what is making up 95% of the current ICO market, so yeah that COULD be possible. After this big ICO fad is over and there is some transparency or regulation occurring, there will be less scamcoins and more legit ICOs. 2018 may be a year where people see btc hit 50k and the next closest coin is only 1/20th. Who knows!?


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptonomics_dealer on December 01, 2017, 11:12:22 PM
It think the ICO period is just beginning. The highest peak will be in autumn 2018, i think.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: crazylikeafox on December 01, 2017, 11:16:05 PM
Its just beginning especially since big companies saw that there is money to be made in the crypto world and now they are starting to test it. More altcoins will come in 2018


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptozobo on December 01, 2017, 11:33:55 PM
Bitcoin took a while for it's price to rise, you need to give some of these companies the time of day too.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Usui-Chan on December 01, 2017, 11:40:07 PM
It actually depends though on how these companies manage their crypto and how they plan to make use of it. The functionalities of coins are different so the other useful ones may survive even though they are not as popular as the big ones. There are still some that are innovative which will I believe will survive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Altas on December 01, 2017, 11:46:04 PM
Cryptocurrency network is far beyond what we think or the corporates do, already several times corporates might have tried to take control of the digital currency network. Being a different platform might have not made them intrude easily. With this in mind cryptocurrency usage might get low and never go out of usage.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Pab on December 01, 2017, 11:55:19 PM
I will say 90% of tokens will go to zero pumped dumped by devs and his frends,finally devs will stay with
all tokens,tokens are mirror of hype alts from past


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Snaic on December 02, 2017, 01:47:16 PM
Of course, many of the new coins created as a result of the ICO in the next 2018 will be forgotten as useless for the market due to the lack of demand on them. However, to say that 95 percent of such coins would be useless would not be. I think the percentage of good and promising coins and projects for which they are created is much larger. Just for the promotion of some projects need a fairly long time. And in general, of course, it is necessary to recognize that most of such projects are substandard, or made solely for the collection of funds during the ICO.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: coldmedalgostarican on December 02, 2017, 03:35:34 PM
Alot of these projects raised millions upon millions! They will be able to drag out their existence for years thought it will be like zombie projects.. they are not really alive but not dead either.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: mathematical-project on December 02, 2017, 03:49:58 PM
Alot of these projects raised millions upon millions! They will be able to drag out their existence for years thought it will be like zombie projects.. they are not really alive but not dead either.

These projects made rich only those who created these projects. Earn money simple users do not have time. They stay with bought useless coins


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: alexey8080 on December 02, 2017, 04:23:26 PM
I think the same.
Many coins will die, many new projects will come to replace.
But this is normal, as in other industries.
Invest wisely.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: nexus2k14 on December 02, 2017, 05:01:24 PM
I will disagree that 95% of ICO's will fail within a year that is hard to believe. Firstly all most successful projects will be still there in a year time, no doubt about that, they have good white paper and roadmap that in many cases exceeds 12 months timeline, don't forget they have millions in funds in order to complete their goals and I can't see why they will disappear within a year? Why not in a first month or first week? Why not take all ICO money and never show again? I agree that some ICO's that are less popular without strong community and support, without good media and marketing can slowly fade out and die like weak - pump&dump coins. 


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: xiaohang07 on December 02, 2017, 05:10:08 PM
I think you need to have a better definition of failure.  Crypto is unlike any other financial instrument or business.  Not as big as Ethereum does not equate to failure.
Agree, blockchain technology is going viral in top universities among professors and students. More and more blockchain projects will be able to make profit and stay in the game.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Faroxx on December 02, 2017, 05:19:17 PM
I think you are right. I also think that over 90% of the coins that have passed the ICO will die\lose relevance.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: ajqjjj on December 02, 2017, 05:31:40 PM
I will disagree that 95% of ICO's will fail within a year that is hard to believe. Firstly all most successful projects will be still there in a year time, no doubt about that, they have good white paper and roadmap that in many cases exceeds 12 months timeline, don't forget they have millions in funds in order to complete their goals and I can't see why they will disappear within a year? Why not in a first month or first week? Why not take all ICO money and never show again? I agree that some ICO's that are less popular without strong community and support, without good media and marketing can slowly fade out and die like weak - pump&dump coins. 

If you disagree now soon same day in next year you will find all the altcoins will be goes to bin. I will think that we may find the more ICos in upcoming years as well but all the coins will not be successful like same as this year.
ICO projects does not need the popularity they actually needs good project and legitity in their white paper. If that is on their project they will be wins the expected the amount of eth or bitcoins level.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Bastime on December 02, 2017, 05:34:03 PM
I think you are right. I also think that over 90% of the coins that have passed the ICO will die\lose relevance.

The world has already 1,300+ Crypto-Currencies today and there's more coming next year so Alcoins value that still laying low on the ground was affected this due.
They are a lot of ICOs that has the same project description and developers have multiple ICOs instead of focusing only their own ICO and that's few of the reasons why ICOs and Crypto-Currencies are struggling to increase their volume share and values.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Geenstijl on December 02, 2017, 05:40:36 PM
May I be frank with you, guys? I guess that shitty projects will become the cause of the first big crisis on cryptocurrency sphere. They could lead to the total loss of confidence about crypto and moreover this could easily become begining of the end...


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: hlarisimus2014 on December 02, 2017, 05:46:39 PM
In 2018 nothing will change in the market of crypto-currencies. Projects will quickly emerge and die quickly. Now it is not controlled by anyone and therefore there is chaos here. It should take several years for several coins to become leaders


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: btc-facebook on December 02, 2017, 05:57:48 PM
It's reasonable since altcoin consider as gambling that's why Chinese decide to ban ICO in order to protect their people.
But when many new ICO being launch recently, it may fit or able compete bitcoin technology in the future for example Microsoft interest to use ETH


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Raist on December 02, 2017, 06:37:49 PM
I will say 90% of tokens will go to zero pumped dumped by devs and his frends,finally devs will stay with
all tokens,tokens are mirror of hype alts from past
Absolutely. Dozens and dozens of those coins. Now I can still see some of them in the first 50. Really did not expect such from mona coin and digibyte. There can be some minor gems in token world but 99% is such a crap :D


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: energycom on December 02, 2017, 06:40:58 PM
I will say 90% of tokens will go to zero pumped dumped by devs and his frends,finally devs will stay with
all tokens,tokens are mirror of hype alts from past
Absolutely. Dozens and dozens of those coins. Now I can still see some of them in the first 50. Really did not expect such from mona coin and digibyte. There can be some minor gems in token world but 99% is such a crap :D

It looks right, most of the altcoins will be dead in next years. This is normal, they're not even performing well this year. It wouldn't surprise me honestly.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: popolite11 on December 03, 2017, 08:34:48 PM
If you talk about the so-called shitcoins that are somewhere in the tail and take their places #1000+, they might not survive sure. The whales such as ETH, DASH, Monero, Ripple will swallow them.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: granchio on December 03, 2017, 08:40:30 PM
I think ''95% of Cryptocurrencies'' is too much, but maybe more less will not survive in 2018. Unfortunately, there are many useless coins.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: gazilla on December 03, 2017, 08:42:45 PM
This certainly not true. How can you know this. Anyway this is big statement to make and not supported with any evidence. Even though I do agree that some altcoins are just copies of other tokens and is going to be hard for them to survive, there are good ones out there that actually serve a purpose. So they are going to exist until something better comes and replaces them.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: baikallivestar on December 06, 2017, 03:04:05 PM
I really do not want to believe in it, although such a result is quite possible. The main thing is, before the crash is over, you have time to earn a house in Miami ;D


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptowomba on December 06, 2017, 03:16:55 PM
I am quite curious where you got the number 95%, I do agree that we will start to see a lot of projects fail, but not 95%.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Inc_BitSquirrel on December 06, 2017, 03:26:35 PM
I'm just wondering... do we count tokens as well into this "95%"? Many people do not distinguish between coins and tokens as it is all the same for them.

However, if token is taken into account, then I do totally agree. We have a shitload of useless tokens and that number will rise even more with new ICO. In the end however, the number as high as 99% of tokens will die with their ICOs and that might happen during 2018.

When it comes to coins, situation is slightly more complex. Lifespan of coin is in my opinion somewhat longer than for token. Consequently, I do not think so many coins will vanish during 2018. Nevrtheless, I also believe that in the future only handful of coins will remain. It is plain simple logic, that we just do not need so many coins. Most of them are not even adding any value. Coin need a purpose to remain valid! If you check the archive data of Coin Market Cap you shall see many coins which already disappeared.

In 10 years I think we shall end up with 5 - 10 major blockchains/coins, each with a specific function in mind. But it is 5-10 years time, not 2018 alone.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Noxmfs on December 06, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
A coin dies only if it's a PURE scam. Even left out projects with no development team behind them anymore still keep a good price, considering the fact that they are no longer supported by anybody. Therefore this statement is completely false and unless you are the Third-Eyed raven, there is nothing to make me believe in that.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: linkdead13 on December 06, 2017, 03:58:33 PM
I don't see that happening at all. As long as people have suitable Ideas and people to back them crypto will survive


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: radeone on December 06, 2017, 04:04:24 PM
No doubt that a lot of projects will fail. I watched to total crypto asset market jump from 850 assets to 1200 in a few months. Only time will tell who lives and who dies.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Poink on December 06, 2017, 04:05:41 PM
Many may die but more will be born (SADLY).  Many start with NOTHING...and somehow they still get "investors" throw money at them.  ::)

The number of coins keep increasing...main reason I am all for ICO regulation, hopefully limit the coins entering to viable ones.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cevap on December 06, 2017, 04:26:51 PM
You may be right but there we will thousands of more tokens who will replace them anyways.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Fundalini on December 06, 2017, 04:36:00 PM
Where exactly did they come up of that 95%? Granting that it is accurate, I'm assuming that the other 5% they are referring to are the ones included on the top 30 or maybe 20--that might be realistic considering the fact that most icos die as soon as they hit the exchanges.
I'm just wondering... do we count tokens as well into this "95%"? Many people do not distinguish between coins and tokens as it is all the same for them.
Well, the topic didn't specifically say coins or tokens and used "cryptocurrencies" instead, and tokens are considered one so yeah they are included.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: iloveturtles on December 06, 2017, 05:12:42 PM
There are a lot of bad ideas and altcoins that have no use, but that happens in any ecosystem.

I think 95% is a little high though and I wouldn't throw that number out without any data or backing.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: APICEMTECH on December 06, 2017, 05:17:37 PM
The statement that 95% will not survive after another 1 year will surely not survive. Most of the alts which were among top 100 back in 2015 do not even exist today.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dangdangdang on December 06, 2017, 05:20:40 PM
I'm thinking the same thing that's why when I am going to invest in Altcoins, I would rather choose top Altcoins because they have already stable and the prices are increasing amazingly.
If most of ICOs won't survive then still we got a big chance to keep our eyes on the tokens we invested.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: partysumo on December 06, 2017, 05:24:35 PM
I think it is not important to argue if the percentage is 95 or less. The most important subject should be, which ones will survive and how it will effect BTC and ETH. Another topic could be, if the cryptocurrencies start to fail, does this mean that more projects will start to use BTC.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: apolonio on December 06, 2017, 05:25:56 PM
The problem is there are too many alts nowadays and its really confusing which is a good alt to invest in.Some ICO's are not succeeding on their coin so just burning out some of their tokens.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: MarkoViewly on December 06, 2017, 05:31:01 PM
I think it is not important to argue if the percentage is 95 or less. The most important subject should be, which ones will survive and how it will effect BTC and ETH. Another topic could be, if the cryptocurrencies start to fail, does this mean that more projects will start to use BTC.
I believe that if many of the alts "fail" to make it through, BTC and ETH will just feed on the advantage created and will continue climbing. And for cryptocurrencies failing generally I don't think that's possible to happen for at least the next several years unless something bigger and mightier gets involved and tries to silence crypto (governments).


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: darthmaul on December 06, 2017, 05:36:14 PM
LOLZ!

Come on bro look at the market currently and imagine the status of the same market after few months later. It looks juts perfect and there will 95% more ICO will be coming as compared to todays situation no matter what they are good or bad, legit or scam etc! This is the very nature of the whole crypto currencies creator, the ICO creator actually. They will keep coming all the time and people will never stop investing into them because they will want huge money in terms of profit.

So I think that crypto projects not only will survive but will coming at the alarming rates really.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: vassel on December 06, 2017, 05:42:58 PM
Altough i think that most of them will not be able to survive 2018 or even first half, i mostly think that new technologies will appear like Tangle or any other thing and day by day more people will invest their savings to digital currencies


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dangdangdang on December 06, 2017, 05:57:50 PM
The problem is there are too many alts nowadays and its really confusing which is a good alt to invest in.Some ICO's are not succeeding on their coin so just burning out some of their tokens.

In addition to that, there's a lot of ICOs that's already failing at this moment. The reason there are still investors in every ICOs because people were tricked that their project will par Bitcoin and Top Altcoins in the future but developers and management staff are actually incapable of running Crypto-Currency project. This is really the most embarrassing when you're an investor and then suddenly you'll ended upset due to someone are leaving from the team.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: armored on December 06, 2017, 05:59:30 PM
It will take more than a year to make these coins disappear. Think about it, coins like Ripple are highly centralized, and you see no one using or talking about it besides pumpers and dumpers. Even so, it still has one of the highest market caps.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dangdangdang on December 06, 2017, 06:01:45 PM
Altough i think that most of them will not be able to survive 2018 or even first half, i mostly think that new technologies will appear like Tangle or any other thing and day by day more people will invest their savings to digital currencies

Most of them are actually failing due to unforseen circumstances. I heard that some greedy developers aren't focusing on one project and they're engaging multiple projects that caused instability and lack of support. ICOs are too much this year and there's more to come by next year that's why I never set my confidence in an ICOs because most of them have no future. If I had to invest more to Altcoins, I better choose the Top Altcoins because they have already proven stable and having a good market cap value.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: terrific on December 06, 2017, 06:14:52 PM
Bitcoin is the new google + apple + wall street? it's obvious that the 95% of cryptocurrencies are totally nonsense, they are only for collecting purposes without any intention of contributing of what crypto must be. Bitcoin will be the center and highlighted cryptocurrency and those few ones are the ones that are next to it like ETH, Monero, Litecoin, etc. the popular ones.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: kalodu on December 06, 2017, 06:15:32 PM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg

I agree completely with what Vitalik said. The worst part is that so many people are going to get burned from these ICOs. I don't however see any projects yet that should have valuations like Apple, Google or Alibaba. So far each token even of good projects is only good for a certain niche, there aren't really any tokens that deserve valuations in the tens of billions, let alone hundreds.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Bayoe_noe on December 06, 2017, 06:29:43 PM
a project must have clarity for the future of a progress if it wants to compete with other projects and can offer a different idea and idea to attract investors. it is undeniable that there are many ICOs that fail and there is no continuation of the development team, and some have successfully done OCO then developers disappear and cause losses to investors. it is impacting on the new ICO project that makes investors hesitate and think to enter into new projects. although only a few projects are scam but it has a huge impact in the world of ICO development.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: mayo2u on December 06, 2017, 07:27:17 PM
Many coins will fail. Creating a coin is simple. Creating an ICO doesn't take that much investment (from a business perspective).

Many will fail - some coins are simply memes or clones and don't really deserve to live. (Although I have a soft spot for 42 coin.) Some coins are scams and they definitely don't deserve to survive. Some are good ideas but will be crowded out or not seen as good ideas or simply badly managed. They too will die. This is business.

There will always be new coins and always coins dying out.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: groko271 on December 06, 2017, 08:46:56 PM
crypto is the new wild west, the last frontier, and sooner or later common sense will enter this space. In saying that it will be a few years, a few scams few "hacks" before this will happen. I dont think 95% of crytpo wont survive 2018, however I think the opposite>>>> we'll have double the crytpo that we currently have now.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: alt-fire on December 06, 2017, 09:29:34 PM
too many new coins. 1326 only on coinmarketcap.com. many more coins were not included in the statistics
1326-95% = 67
I think 67 coins at the time)))


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Rickirs on December 06, 2017, 09:29:39 PM
crypto is the new wild west, the last frontier, and sooner or later common sense will enter this space. In saying that it will be a few years, a few scams few "hacks" before this will happen. I dont think 95% of crytpo wont survive 2018, however I think the opposite>>>> we'll have double the crytpo that we currently have now.

So essentially you are saying this place yet to get mature, and will happen only after lots of hiccups (scam, hacks) etc ?


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: thycrypto on December 06, 2017, 09:37:55 PM
Alts will not survive if they do not follow through on their roadmaps. If they claim to partner and come out with new apps and such and they don't then.. fail. I think 2018 will show which alt coins will stand and which of them were scams will drop and disappear.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: valeru.aver on December 06, 2017, 09:40:56 PM
95% seems too high. For large companies, the cost of ICO is negligible, and they can earn on many times more. If the creators convey an interesting and necessary idea, and it will receive support, the coin will grow. Most of today's coins will remain. Perhaps in a couple of years the world of crypto currency will become more closed, and it will not be easy to enter into it.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: KwizatzHaderach on December 06, 2017, 09:44:45 PM
I think momentum is still on the side of ICOs, so more coins this coming year.
When the market is saturated enough or if when the market crashes big time. But the truth is ICOs success are not pegged to their tokens/coins.
Some tokens will be undervalued for long, but if the team is solid and the milestones are hit they will not die for sure.

Sure there a lot of scammers around but that is where due diligence must be exercised.
It is a good era nowadays as normal people can join in providing funds in exchange for value that will be created by these startups.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: CaptainKid on December 06, 2017, 09:46:46 PM
95% seems too high. For large companies, the cost of ICO is negligible, and they can earn on many times more. If the creators convey an interesting and necessary idea, and it will receive support, the coin will grow. Most of today's coins will remain. Perhaps in a couple of years the world of crypto currency will become more closed, and it will not be easy to enter into it.
If we talk about coins, yes, 95% is a lot, but the truth is that there is indeed a very huge% ICO-scam, and very few real projects that follow the set and prescribed tasks: - [


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Gargo on December 06, 2017, 09:48:29 PM
95% seems too high. For large companies, the cost of ICO is negligible, and they can earn on many times more. If the creators convey an interesting and necessary idea, and it will receive support, the coin will grow. Most of today's coins will remain. Perhaps in a couple of years the world of crypto currency will become more closed, and it will not be easy to enter into it.
If we talk about coins, yes, 95% is a lot, but the truth is that there is indeed a very huge% ICO-scam, and very few real projects that follow the set and prescribed tasks: - [

There is more and more crypto and there are really a lot of them, sometimes I even get lost in them. I think that soon only the strongest such as Ethereum, Waves will remain, and the rest will go into oblivion.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dragoz11 on December 06, 2017, 09:54:36 PM
You may be right regarding the ICO`s who don`t have a real business and are just using blockchain in order to profit from it in a short time. That`s why I myself rarely invest in coins which don`t have real life business.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Minnaja on December 06, 2017, 10:04:32 PM
The claim that 95% of crypto currencies will not survive in 2018 is absolute nonsense because it does not consider the huge increasing demand for crypto currencies! The demand for cryptos will explode in 2018 because the euro and dollar system is near its end and the withdraw of the guarantee for bank deposits confirms this. As soon as there will be a crisis in the stock or derivatives market, the fiat system will completely crash!

But if bitcoin becomes very expensive, then all alternative coins will remain unclaimed. It is already clear that people are turning into a biton. If this trend continues, then many coins will die


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Fedrey on December 06, 2017, 10:27:21 PM
The claim that 95% of crypto currencies will not survive in 2018 is absolute nonsense because it does not consider the huge increasing demand for crypto currencies! The demand for cryptos will explode in 2018 because the euro and dollar system is near its end and the withdraw of the guarantee for bank deposits confirms this. As soon as there will be a crisis in the stock or derivatives market, the fiat system will completely crash!

But if bitcoin becomes very expensive, then all alternative coins will remain unclaimed. It is already clear that people are turning into a biton. If this trend continues, then many coins will die
of course in these words there is a huge sense, if we take into account that the new crypto currency is just a soap bubble or not confirmed by No real demand. Of course every coin represents its project and if there are no perspectives which then the collapse is inevitable.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Oceat on December 06, 2017, 10:37:14 PM
It will take more than a year to make these coins disappear. Think about it, coins like Ripple are highly centralized, and you see no one using or talking about it besides pumpers and dumpers. Even so, it still has one of the highest market caps.
Not a year but more than a couple of year because a lot of altcoins that were created were from ICO that has more users supporting to it. Which means they have been holding those coins for a long time until they see the price to rise. Those at the top of the marketcap were from ICO's so basically it wasn't that easy to forget some of those coins, that were created by good developer and a hardworking manager.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: groko271 on December 07, 2017, 02:02:01 AM
crypto is the new wild west, the last frontier, and sooner or later common sense will enter this space. In saying that it will be a few years, a few scams few "hacks" before this will happen. I dont think 95% of crytpo wont survive 2018, however I think the opposite>>>> we'll have double the crytpo that we currently have now.

So essentially you are saying this place yet to get mature, and will happen only after lots of hiccups (scam, hacks) etc ?

The space that "ICO" occupies, yes I am saying that.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: candy69 on December 07, 2017, 02:11:06 AM
Well, it is 95% or not, but most of them would not survive long. A few of them have a very good prospect in future.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: geyayy on December 07, 2017, 02:49:02 AM
I also think the same, but not all the ICOs that have been made are all shtcoins. There are still ICOs that are functional up until now and I hope that they won't be just collecting the funds that they have gathered from their crowdsourcing.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: The Cryptologist on December 07, 2017, 03:17:52 AM
Maybe because some of the altcoins that are still existing looks dead already like Siacoin that are just falling to the bottom. Some of them has the same concept and some of them are shitcoins so it's really possible.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: ipanks on December 07, 2017, 03:32:21 AM
maybe it is just for the coins which don't get a good support from the dev and the teams and the community that will not survive. without their support, the coins cannot stay in the cryptocurrencies world and soon the coins will die. only the strong coins will survive and now we can see that there are many coins has got down after bitcoin price is increasing so fast. I cannot imagine if many of altcoin dies in 2018 but I still have faith that cryptocurrencies will be staying for a long time.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: sucix on December 07, 2017, 03:40:11 AM
My opinion 95% of cryptocurrency will not survive is very high percentage for 2018.
I will say there are many good idea project with real exist company will survive. And at least all of them are not 5% only.
I am not really good in calculation but i think the old coin will survive the only collapse is the new project with bad and very bad ideas.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Snaic on December 07, 2017, 04:08:16 AM
Perhaps the figure is 95 percent slightly exaggerated, but I agree that the vast majority of tokens created as a result of this year's ICO will not survive. This year there was a real boom in the ICO, the number of them incredibly increased, many rushed to earn money on this, not particularly developing their projects, and therefore many of them were of poor quality and do not maintain competition, or lose all support after entering the exchange and depreciate .


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: motec on December 07, 2017, 04:23:31 AM
Obviously Bitcoin is an apple of cryptoindustry. Just because it was the 1st. Who tasted it and still holding really liked it's taste.

Apple wasn't the first in anything.
They just had great marketing


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Capt00 on December 07, 2017, 04:44:01 AM
I really don't think that will happen, 95% will dead and 5% will left? It's gonna be joke mate. Maybe we can reverse it 5% will totally dead and 95% will still exist in the market but I've doubted also their volume. Anyway, this is only an speculation and their is no assurance of what will happen for the incoming days because a lot of changes might happen in the long run.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: DiniazRosa on December 07, 2017, 04:45:51 AM
I think not so much coins will dead in 2018 because dev team see the future of altcoins and they will have large profit.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Jibit on December 07, 2017, 05:00:11 AM
I really don't think that will happen, 95% will dead and 5% will left? It's gonna be joke mate. Maybe we can reverse it 5% will totally dead and 95% will still exist in the market but I've doubted also their volume. Anyway, this is only an speculation and their is no assurance of what will happen for the incoming days because a lot of changes might happen in the long run.

I agree with you. This is just a theoary. An unreal theoary. Most altcoin will survice and some of them will dissapear. That is my view. Altcoin solve many problem in the Economy and It will exist until the Earth die


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: richan on December 07, 2017, 05:46:03 AM
Is the same as saying 95% of startup wont survive in 2018. I think your percentage is higher, More ICO has been successful project in the past and I don't see why 95% willl fail in 2018. Most project will be a success base on the value of it.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptomema on December 07, 2017, 06:12:27 AM
are you drunk? 95% maybe your high alts has grown a lot community this year than previous years dont be negative bro,stay away from your computer walk with your dog smell some flowers or take a bath.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: HelloWorldofCrypto on December 07, 2017, 06:14:31 AM
But in 2018 can appear many new coins. And many old coins will not survive)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: pro2017 on December 07, 2017, 07:03:11 AM
Those are what is making up %80 of the current ico market, so yeah that could be possible.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: superdant1 on December 07, 2017, 07:14:50 AM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg

A friend of more than 50% will live as the money)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: LuanX3 on December 07, 2017, 07:47:57 AM
95% is about right, since there is only 5% that are serious about developing whatever they are launching nowadays. Most of them are just creating ICOs then just shelving the project effectively just stealing the proceeds of the ICO. That's been the norm and a lot of ICOs have even been proven to have exit scammed already. A lot of which just halfheartedly created their ICO with not even a good proposition to sell.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: criticoflife on December 07, 2017, 07:52:44 AM
I see a lot of people doubting this statement but in fact it couldn't be more true. You think about the explosion of sh1t coins as of late. There are an unbelievable amount of total trash coins with no real use at all floating around. I see at least 10 airdrops a day with most days not even one of them ever even going to be listed on an exchange. I would say the 5% mark is correct!


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptocue on December 07, 2017, 08:00:31 AM
Nah,i dont think so.Alts will rally in the first quarter of 2018 maybe you have been mistaken 95% of the alts will pump as always.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: thesavoyard on December 07, 2017, 08:05:03 AM
Yeah, soon BTC backlog will hit hard and Alts will grow incredibly fast. BTC has little hope of scaling with any software updates, making it an extremely risky place to put money.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptoux on December 07, 2017, 08:20:35 AM
Dont be hilarious brother,alts will survive you are just being paranoid,few days alts are pumping its just another day for the traders like me.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptoux on December 07, 2017, 08:29:35 AM
I hope shitcoins will be removed in all exchanges,the ones without existing products should be remove because they dont any use its a waste of investment.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: topesis on December 07, 2017, 08:32:53 AM
95% is a big call, but what I think will happen is huge expectations from these team to start delivering on their promise, I expect project like Golem to either make a big giant leap or fall, they have failed to leave up to their timeline and most project will suffer from community pressure. Also remeber we will likely see more partnerships and merger of two or more projects to become a strong force to recon with


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: thedec4 on December 07, 2017, 08:35:25 AM
I think the ones which are decent coins will survive.... Those which are scam based should hopefully filter away. Thus leaving only the true coins which are here for a purpose other than making someone loads of money before disappearing without a trace.

Just hope that the true coins which aren't scams don't end up being pushed away due to brand new scams coming to entice people in.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Dobrodav on December 07, 2017, 10:36:12 AM
I dont think that 95% cryptocurrencies will not survive in 2018. In my opinion, the crypto world is in the fast development. There is no reason they will die. Excepting scam ICOs.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: ask on December 07, 2017, 10:37:26 AM
I hope at least ethereum is going to survive. But its going south like blind. Someone must stop this drop.
I have many Ethereums and really getting nervous.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: batmanbabushka on December 07, 2017, 11:08:24 AM
I'm guessing you are trying to cause controversy by stating a number as high as 95%. Yes of course some altcoins will fail but not 95%.

If you are going to state numbers at least have some data or sound reasoning, rather than just stating it, some people will take your words seriously.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: VestRidCr on December 07, 2017, 12:39:53 PM
Dont be hilarious brother,alts will survive you are just being paranoid,few days alts are pumping its just another day for the traders like me.
I agree, although among the violas there is a lot of any scum created just for pumping out money. In any case, I'm looking forward to 2018)) :)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: slaman29 on December 07, 2017, 12:46:16 PM
A lot of good ideas, and a lot of very, very bad ideas - I totally agree with this. The cracker is that not even among the good ideas are there all good plans, good ideas unfortunately are not the sole indicator of success... a lot of sad stories will riddle crypto world in years to come. Maybe the worst of all is that bad ideas can become successful for a very long time. This is all perspective of course. Some people will forever think Bitcoin is a bad idea even 10 years from now. But don't speak of 95%, that's 19/20. It will take far longer for most to "die".


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: vetal1212 on December 07, 2017, 04:25:11 PM
Most likely you are right, but old and new all continues, someone will buy and sell coins, someone not! So everything depends only on you! Every day there are new coins!


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Asmus003 on December 07, 2017, 05:04:36 PM
Only scams will not survive. But, no. Scams can live for a long time. Just because people buy stupid coins :)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Disna on December 07, 2017, 05:50:38 PM
Currently altcoin prices are falling as BTC prices rise high, negative sentiment towards altcoin leads to panic and sells all altcoins.
I agree some altcoin will die, but not everything only altcoin has strong fundamentals and has a loyal community that can survive


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: StayFly on December 07, 2017, 06:02:23 PM
No doubt, there are few great ICOs and so many scam ICOs that promises people a safe haven for investment and after the successful ICO they run away with people's money and leave them with a huge loses. That was one of the reasons China banned ICOs completely throughout the country.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Michelle990 on December 07, 2017, 06:19:55 PM
That will be dangerous


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: lonesurvivor on December 07, 2017, 06:28:42 PM
they were some rumors periodically about some cryptocurrencies that definitely would die; but they are still on the ''market''. Off course some of the listed altcoins will not survive but not the 95% of them.For sure a lot of them is scam and only a percentage of them will not make it until the end of 2018.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptofirm on December 07, 2017, 06:38:03 PM
not 95% pf crypto,,
but 70% of crypto will be eliminated in the next year,
so cryptocurrency with real development and great team will be survive


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: rfcdejong on December 07, 2017, 06:49:20 PM
I am in favor of the regulation of ICO. While there is no regulation of ICO 95% of fraudulent coins will leave the market and the same number will appear.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: EEEian on December 07, 2017, 06:59:03 PM
I think you provide something wrong information.95% coin will not survive in 2018? what the hell i don't believe your funny logic.I believe 70% coin survive in long term.Everyday coming many new project that's why Crypto market being stronger.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: GrandBcn on December 07, 2017, 07:34:02 PM
It's like a story about an anti-utopia. Each project is individual, and if behind the project is a good idea and a clever team, then such a coin will not fall and will not disappear. The fact that in 2018 will disappear 90% of shit ICO and shit coins - this is what I believe. People will become more selective in their investments.



Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: adzino on December 07, 2017, 07:53:52 PM
Nothing to be surprised about to be honest. Most of the alternative coins we see in the market are just shits with nothing to contribute on the crypto world. They are just clone of other coins or just based on extremely useless concepts.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Dodoymabs on December 07, 2017, 08:21:39 PM
It's like a story about an anti-utopia. Each project is individual, and if behind the project is a good idea and a clever team, then such a coin will not fall and will not disappear. The fact that in 2018 will disappear 90% of shit ICO and shit coins - this is what I believe. People will become more selective in their investments.


I think we can't control the growing of ICO due to its easy to create and no one will get to jail if someone get scam. This 2018 will be a challenge to those developers creating an ICO that is really have a good intentions and not just like making promising platform to attract the interest of the investors. I hope 2018 will be a year for new growth of ICO that is clearly to help people not just to get fund and later be scam.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Ziminator on December 07, 2017, 08:29:08 PM

95% seems to be a figure based on nothing. But in general I agree with the author, there is a lot of garbage. It would be better to tell who these 5% and how to recognize them in a heap of garbage?


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: serhishulak on December 07, 2017, 08:36:04 PM
95% are already dead, they have not even started yet  ;D


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: gtsmmst on December 07, 2017, 08:45:13 PM

95% seems to be a figure based on nothing. But in general I agree with the author, there is a lot of garbage. It would be better to tell who these 5% and how to recognize them in a heap of garbage?

Lets start counting?
NEO
IOTA
ADA
KNC
WAN
ETH
LTC
BTC
QSP
ENG
ICX
XMR
XLM
LSK
ARK
FCT
DASH
EOS
TENX
POWR
PIVX

so there's approximately 1500 coins, so 5% of the good ones is ~30 projects.
make your picks ;)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Ging on December 07, 2017, 08:50:24 PM
Hello may friend with all do respect i think you are undervaluing most of altcoins if you said 50 percent that could be accepted but 98 is too much in my opinion these new alt are strong and they represent a good long term investment.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: happyme1818 on December 07, 2017, 11:09:12 PM

95% seems to be a figure based on nothing. But in general I agree with the author, there is a lot of garbage. It would be better to tell who these 5% and how to recognize them in a heap of garbage?

Lets start counting?
NEO
IOTA
ADA
KNC
WAN
ETH
LTC
BTC
QSP
ENG
ICX
XMR
XLM
LSK
ARK
FCT
DASH
EOS
TENX
POWR
PIVX

so there's approximately 1500 coins, so 5% of the good ones is ~30 projects.
make your pics ;)

5% of 1500 is equivalent of 75 projects. however 95% is quite small in terms of surviving. Even shitcoins will survive next year. I will agree if he said 95% of ICO are trash.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: kevindeangelis on December 07, 2017, 11:18:28 PM
Well obviously it's a big possibility. That's the reason why it's really important which coins that you should continue to keep in the wallet.
I'll go with Strat, Eth, Dash and Btc.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: copperKO on December 07, 2017, 11:21:09 PM
After bitcoin stabilizes a bit, i.e. correction and then flattening out, money will flow into alts again like 2017Q1-2. 2018 will be a huge year for alts just find solid projects


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Filmmmakerr on December 07, 2017, 11:59:58 PM
I think before any crypto dies it will pump to give all investors a chance to profit, they always do. Once that happens we need to cash out.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: pentol86 on December 08, 2017, 12:16:46 AM
some airdrop tokens starting their project in 2018, how you can say it will disappear? yes, too much scamer in ICO area, but not all.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dark08 on December 08, 2017, 12:19:31 AM
It's like a story about an anti-utopia. Each project is individual, and if behind the project is a good idea and a clever team, then such a coin will not fall and will not disappear. The fact that in 2018 will disappear 90% of shit ICO and shit coins - this is what I believe. People will become more selective in their investments.


I think we can't control the growing of ICO due to its easy to create and no one will get to jail if someone get scam. This 2018 will be a challenge to those developers creating an ICO that is really have a good intentions and not just like making promising platform to attract the interest of the investors. I hope 2018 will be a year for new growth of ICO that is clearly to help people not just to get fund and later be scam.

Creating ico project was so easy and impact this 2017 many project are introduce but only few of them are survived this only indicat that developer are created ico to scam people.
And now the price of bitcoin skyroketing most altcoin are in red so theres a possiblity that 95% will not survive if this run will continue. Only invest for a long term investment.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: FiiNALiZE on December 08, 2017, 02:59:49 AM
Nothing to be surprised about to be honest. Most of the alternative coins we see in the market are just shits with nothing to contribute on the crypto world. They are just clone of other coins or just based on extremely useless concepts.
2018 is going to be a year to see what Altcoins do what they say they are trying to do. If they don't do anything then they will have less people to support it.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptoadmire on December 08, 2017, 10:20:33 AM
95% seems like a very high figure and I think if you are going to make bold claims like that you should have something to back it up.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: joselitobayagbag on December 08, 2017, 12:37:12 PM
This is really possible that alts wont have any value because of the BTC is getting more value everyday.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: romero121 on December 08, 2017, 01:26:26 PM
Several issues and statements roll out depending upon the growth. This won't be a big controversy about the growth of bitcoin as well other digital currencies when people understand the true technology lying behind it. From different enthusiasts it's targeted for the year 2020. This is completely gonna make a big change to the cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: randal9 on December 08, 2017, 01:35:56 PM
I think that this is really so, because there are many scammers...only the strongest will survive and I think that there can't be hundreds of them, as now...


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dvabit on December 08, 2017, 02:26:13 PM
Obviously Bitcoin is an apple of cryptoindustry. Just because it was the 1st. Who tasted it and still holding really liked it's taste.

No i think bitcoin is Mango of cryptoindustry.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: rudolfaxl on December 08, 2017, 02:37:26 PM
I agree with this opinion but I guess that it takes more than just one year to throw out bad crypto projects. To be honest I think that maximum 50% of alts will collapsed at 2018, not more.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Boluwatife on December 08, 2017, 02:53:34 PM
This is very baseless without any fact to back it up.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: QFT on December 08, 2017, 02:58:21 PM
If 95% of crypto's will die, there's still hundreds of coins left to invest in and trade with.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Morguk on December 08, 2017, 03:12:47 PM
Lol there's no chance alts are not going to survive 2018. What do you even mean by "not survive"? We've seen loads of coins come back from the dead this year, the market is only going to grow and grow next year. Expect more alts and old ones pumping once again.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: bisa coy on December 08, 2017, 03:39:55 PM
This is very baseless without any fact to back it up.
in my opinion to present something we must have full support for the things we will present. I agree with you!


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: beetlejam on December 08, 2017, 07:51:15 PM
Please back up statements like this with stats and reasoning. People will read this article and give it validity without looking for the facts.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Winner on December 10, 2017, 05:42:36 PM
If 95% of crypto's will die, there's still hundreds of coins left to invest in and trade with.
That is kind of a simple way to view things. A lot of the developers are trying to help Bitcoin grow so it could be used for mainstream adoption.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: renes on December 10, 2017, 05:51:18 PM
There are approximately 1000 coins in fact it is lower than 500 as most are just trash coins. so only 25 of them will survive in 2018  ::) 95% is not realistic but I agree with this idea.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: randal9 on December 10, 2017, 07:35:49 PM
I don't know how many exactly, but most of them will disappear...the strongest will remain and it's time to place bets and invest while they are cheap


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: gorkhalitrader on December 10, 2017, 07:48:27 PM
I agree some of these cryptocurrencies are a scam and some of them pump and dump. But some of them have a great potential to grow and expand and provide the same rate of return like bitcoin, ether, iota or neo.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: vejdemann on December 10, 2017, 08:07:46 PM
I'm not sure in the percentage. I think, something near 70% will not survive in 2018, but it will be much more new altcoins, and it will be the circle from one year to another.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: crypto1nvest on December 10, 2017, 08:53:31 PM
It's not so bad prediction, 95% it's not all cryptocurrency we still have 5% which make us rich. So make your bets lady and gentlemen.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Jalum on December 10, 2017, 09:03:25 PM
Lol that's a pure provocation! Crypto-market will grow by 2 times in 2018, I believe.
I think that you are reading the statement wrong. The coins that are out now aren't worth being in the crypto-market.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Jahreer on December 10, 2017, 09:05:02 PM
Even if we will loose 950 of 1000 altcoins in 2018, there are be couple of thousands more others to be introduced next year. Natural selection and the cryto-evolution process has jus started!


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: DroidR17A on December 10, 2017, 09:20:09 PM
Once you take out the scams (let's face it, there are a lot of them), the reality is that 90% of startups fail, whether they're crypto based or not makes no difference. It's been well documented for years, so to say it like it's something unique to ICOs and cryptocurrencies is a little disingenuous. Institutional and angel investors understand the risks vs. rewards. The only difference in the crypto space is that you have a lot of amateur investors that don't understand the risks, or how long it takes to get a product/project to market.

90% of ALL startups fail: https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilpatel/2015/01/16/90-of-startups-will-fail-heres-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-10/#4578dd4c6679 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilpatel/2015/01/16/90-of-startups-will-fail-heres-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-10/#4578dd4c6679)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: danieljefrry on December 10, 2017, 09:27:43 PM
 These are my pick that will end up in 5% survivors. BTC / LTC / ETH / ADA / OMG / NEO / GBX / DASH.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: CreamyCheesecake on December 10, 2017, 09:31:59 PM
Lots will not survive because lots clearly show their pump and dump scheme right away because devs are greedy and they just want quick profits. But solid alts actually can soar more than they did this year in 2018. Alts might have experienced a crash in their btc pair, but their Fiat value has gone to the sky this year.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: andrii.povkh on December 10, 2017, 10:12:46 PM
Yes, most of bad projects will not survive, and it is good news. Who is forbidding you to invest in good projects which eventually become new Apple? So in 2018 business as usual - go and investigate for yourself and find a good project worth investing.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: JesusCryptos on December 11, 2017, 10:00:54 PM
99% of cryptocurrencies always survives, as long as they keep a community, no matter how little.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Gunpaycity on December 11, 2017, 10:03:13 PM
95% fail yes, I assume you are counting all the airdrop coins then?
But 2018? The alts haven't really taken off yet and the market just started to get real attention.
But then again it's cryptoland, anything is possible.
if that's the case, I hope to get the remaining 5% alt-coin


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: CisColtz on December 11, 2017, 10:08:03 PM
I heard this back in 2015 and 2016 and yea some of alts will die , but that doesn't mean that will get off the market so be carefull what you trade in 2018. Better to inform yourself about what effects has bitcoin on alts after this bull run.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Adil Amim on December 11, 2017, 10:21:14 PM
It is true that many project does not have real work and are useless for the market ultimately turning to be a loss for investors. But there is even new upcoming projects that may give a strong competition to Ethereum.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: veraoktav127 on December 11, 2017, 10:21:56 PM
surely many are disappointed if 95% crypto can not survive in 2018 because surely many who have held it even for a long time


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Johnnywelsh on December 11, 2017, 10:35:02 PM
You know there's a historical setting on coinmarketcap to get a snapshot of token value from years past?

Providing your not investing in pure shitcoin then even if the project sells you'd be surprised at how much coins still hold their value. People buying/selling to pump and dump looking for profit.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: angaper on December 11, 2017, 11:12:29 PM
That is certainly a very interesting analysis, and in reality you do not need to have the intelligence of Vitalik to realize that in the midst of this great explosion in the current market of ICOs, there is a great redundancy in many of them, while others offer absurdly irrelevant things for which there seems to be no real need.

Therefore, perhaps in a short time we will see the emergence of true professionals in the "curatorship of ICOs" who will offer their services at high costs to "guarantee" the choice of the best ICOS, because everyone wants to take advantage of this business.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: francis2 on December 11, 2017, 11:39:05 PM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg
I see your point but the percentage seems to high, yes there are going to be giants of the industry but there are also going to be smaller coins doing the same thing as the biggest coins, and are going to become somewhat successful.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: yusuf98 on December 12, 2017, 12:06:14 AM
the end of this year the newly emerging altcoin has a bad value. especially it is influenced by high BTC prices. However anything can happen in the scope of cryptocurrency. I hope the info you provide does not fully happen.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: juicejoyce on December 12, 2017, 12:11:12 AM
I do not think so, the crypto world grows up quickly in 2017 and we can see most altcoins are solid. Also, the market performance is much better than before, so I think the time of crypto is coming.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: singula on December 12, 2017, 03:51:43 AM
About 4 years ago I've mined about 80 new altcoins shortly after they were announced here.

I've gone through the wallets and the statistics of survivability are:
- Only one of them took up nicely (DASH) and is now valuable.
- About 8% of them sort of survived and gained some small value (not much though ...)
- about 40% of them are alive, but their value is dwindling. Probably they will die off sooner or later
- The rest (about 50%) are now dead.

Note that then and now is a bit different (there were no Scrypt ASICs, less miners in general, more traditional PoW coins and less premine/PoS/ICOs), so as the market is a bit saturated, I guess survivability of a coin born today would be probably worse than 4 years ago, unless the coin would now come with some killer feature or some form of mass advertising itself.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: TraderInc on December 12, 2017, 03:57:40 AM
I am thinking with all these new ICO's coming up every day lol
there will be few that will SkyRocket !

I try to stay optimistic  ;D


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: werejago on December 12, 2017, 04:15:28 AM
A bit over exaggerated but just gotta know when to get out! Don't get too greedy and don't be to quick to sell


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: TraderInc on December 12, 2017, 04:26:12 AM
I think 5% is still would be a large number considering how many ICO's are coming every day !

but wow 95% might be a bit too high. Failure rate would be high but I think less than 95 %

wish someone had stats from ICO's that started in the beginning of 2017 or end of 2016.

I would like to hear input form someone who has been participating in ICo's for a year or 2


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Acguy on December 12, 2017, 04:36:07 AM
This will likely happen, just look back at the previous years top altcoins they are irrelevant now.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: tmawheba on December 12, 2017, 04:41:14 AM
95% of Cryptocurrencies will not survive in 2018 is not a small thing which you are defined in your post it look like a theory for crypto market. Apart from theory we should be practically approach also I agreed there is lot of on paper cryptocoin and ICO. Because of that we cannot say 95% of cryptocurrencies will out my assumsion is may be from 10% to 25% is possible.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: strickland on December 13, 2017, 09:24:40 PM
surely many are disappointed if 95% crypto can not survive in 2018 because surely many who have held it even for a long time
A year or so will cause most coins to die out. There should be more coins that will take their spot. This is how Cryptocurrency works.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Holla123 on December 13, 2017, 09:44:49 PM
I do not think that their will be 95% of crypto shutting down in 2018. People look at btc and think the market is in an advanced stage. I do not feel that to be true. There will be more cases like confido. I am still very bullish on all projects with real use cases and there is plenty of those projects. For the pure currency coins there might be an oversupply at some stage.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: VestRidCr on December 13, 2017, 09:52:41 PM
About 4 years ago I've mined about 80 new altcoins shortly after they were announced here.

I've gone through the wallets and the statistics of survivability are:
- Only one of them took up nicely (DASH) and is now valuable.
- About 8% of them sort of survived and gained some small value (not much though ...)
- about 40% of them are alive, but their value is dwindling. Probably they will die off sooner or later
- The rest (about 50%) are now dead.

Note that then and now is a bit different (there were no Scrypt ASICs, less miners in general, more traditional PoW coins and less premine/PoS/ICOs), so as the market is a bit saturated, I guess survivability of a coin born today would be probably worse than 4 years ago, unless the coin would now come with some killer feature or some form of mass advertising itself.
Very interesting statistics 8) I think this ratio will be in the future. Everything depends on the developers of the cryptocurrency. If they have serious intentions, then their cryptocurrency will develop.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Snaic on December 14, 2017, 02:39:43 AM
Over the past few years, about $ 3 billion has been invested in the ICO. This indicates their large number, which in this case was at the expense of the quality of the announced projects. Many sought not to develop good ideas, but simply to earn a decent multi-million dollar amount of money or were generally openly fraudulent. As a result, the created tokens are mostly useless and immediately depreciate when they enter the stock exchanges. This state of affairs can save only the regulation of ICO by various state and non-state bodies.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: panghae on December 14, 2017, 02:41:26 AM
Seems like your prediction is wrong alts are recovering from months of being dumps,but it is really possible that the alts wont have any value if the BTC keeps pumping for the next months.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Sand King on December 14, 2017, 02:49:51 AM
surely many are disappointed if 95% crypto can not survive in 2018 because surely many who have held it even for a long time
I dont really agree, that the 95% of cryptocurrenciess will not survive in 2018 that is really imppssible to happen, eventhough there are many cryptocurrencies that has no a bright future, there are still many crptocurrencies that has a bright future, and maybe 30% will not survive and the rest 70% of cryptocurrencies will survive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: tk808 on December 14, 2017, 02:53:56 AM
Did any of you know that Ethereum is controlled by Goldman Sachs, or was initially when it was being launched? Do some heavy research, sure Ethereum is legit, but the scheme behind it is not, Vitalik the greatest scam artist to ever speak on BTT, because he has everyone's trust for something "great."

Ethereum itself (as a piece of tech) is not bad or a scam, But the powers behind the coin have created a mass illusion for all you sheep.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: wayaneka on December 14, 2017, 03:05:39 AM
In my opinion just some cryptocurrency will loss the value and not survive , not 95% but i think only 5% because the volume of marketcap incerasing many time and i believe next year 2018 the volume and the market cap bigger than this year because more people from around the world will jump in to cryptocurrency industry.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: scoobidoobydu on December 14, 2017, 03:13:16 AM
This is a scary fortell. I have different view point.
I think that we are just in the very first step with the cryptos and there is long way behind to bring the crypto into actual applying in life.
For examples, just only not remarkable number of stores accept BTC and it is only in some developed country. and that is just for BTC - the first cryptos.
From what I see, there is a very long way: to the alternatives be accepted....and those altcoins are accepted in remote areas...that is really long way. Imagine, when you go to Asia to travel and can buy a cup of coffee there with an alt.
So, 2018 should be a good year for cryptos


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: richan on December 14, 2017, 03:13:54 AM
I disagree with you. The figure is too high, I will give it 50%.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Deltaforcing on December 14, 2017, 03:17:46 AM
Since the market cap is now over 500 billion, does this mean all the money will move towards the 5% of coins that will survive  :o


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: bitcoindoor on December 14, 2017, 03:24:17 AM
Hard to say where we are going to be % wise. We will continue to see creativity and people's needs combining for the birth of many more cryptocurrencies. Can't wait for next year....


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: aannnttoo on December 14, 2017, 03:34:16 AM
Maybe yes maybe no, let's see.
major coin still survive but shitcoin will gone. As long as people have suitable Ideas and people to back them crypto will survive


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: PalindromemordnilaP on December 14, 2017, 03:35:25 AM
It's more like saying Bitcoin will be worthless at any point of time in the future. Yeah, it's true that more and more ICOs are popping up almost everyday. Some of it are legit, some are scam, others are just fit to what we called start-up which is only good from the start, and others also remains through times so with that being said, i think only half of those will not survived in my humblest opinion. :)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: bountyjunkie on December 14, 2017, 03:45:43 AM
Another stats 99% of the VC funded startups fail :) Bless the lord that now anyone has a chance on gaining on the 1% which otherwise always was reserved for the VCs or HNIs.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: endlasuresh on December 14, 2017, 03:52:14 AM
Crypto market won't die, but it grows more than 200% scams. All here what I see is scammers who leading ICO's and most of them here bought or hacked legendary accounts for running ICO.
I also see the ICO's say Ecogreen, solar energy, but why don't these guys invest their own real money instead of collecting money.

These scammers learn't a lot in 2017 and they reuse more power to scam people again in 2018.

Without scammers it's hard to run a legit company.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: THAHIRHAJI on December 14, 2017, 04:08:17 AM
The percentage which you had mentioned is not logically acceptable by anyone. Yes there will be chances of minimum 10% to maximum 25% is possible of cryptocurrencies will not survive in 2018 due to the bogus ICO which created for fund raising only will be vanished. But also we have to keep in mind that for genuine Cryptocurrency will be more stronger then ever.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: budimanman on December 14, 2017, 04:08:41 AM
i disagree

but i like the pics  8)

ICO Scam


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: singula on December 14, 2017, 04:54:19 AM
What I see is the market is now getting saturated. Back in 2013 you could get off with a rebranded LTC/DOGE clone (from coingen or similar service, although it is not very hard to create the clone manually) with little or no innovation and with a bit of luck and not much effort get it to an exchange and make some money.

Good promotion/branding was helping more than technical quality here.

Some coins have brought minor improvements (better difficulty retargeting, coin rewarding or PoW algorithm, marginal improvements to the wallet UI), major improvements or ideas were relatively rare (PoS, anonymous coin transfer, ...)

I am not sure how profitable would it be to release a new "copycat" coin today, I think some people will still hop in to mine some (what if this coin takes off? Risky, but possible profit may be large), but chance to make some reasonable profit here for the dev are IMHO quite small. ICOs are better from perspective of coin creator, as you collect some money first and then release the coin later, bur people are now aware that the ICO market is full of scams and are very cautious to invest into someone with no or bad reputation.

For innovative coin (if you are smart enough to invent a completely new feature/concept, then go for it, but I'd consider a coin that mixes features from several other coins as innovative - for example smart contracts from Ethereum with anonymous sending, master nodes and on-chain voting/funding from DASH, add in PoS, multiple PoW algos, proof-of-space/capacity from other coins ....) you could do a good start, but that is nothing you can create within a day, it will be more like months of work of small to medium team to get first version ready and then work on improvements and bugfixes once the coin is alive. Good testing is a must, as small technical error can kill the coin quite quickly and community is not very forgiving if you would do several successive hardforks to fix your glitches.

From purely technical point of view: Bitcoin is technically inferior to other coins, but it was first and has long tradition and wide acceptance.

My personal prediction is that there will be many active viable coins in the future (like we have many active FIAT currencies nowadays), but from smaller coins (lets say lower than 50th place on coinmarket cap) I think more than 90% of them will die off or stagnate (it could be profitable if you predict correctly the few of them that will survive and invest into them :)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: puremage111 on December 14, 2017, 05:23:45 AM
I agree majority will goes down as same to business

Only minority project will survive

But 95% seems huge perhaps 80% i guess?


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: artmen007 on December 14, 2017, 06:09:54 AM
I think that the top 50 projects will be able to provide the whole world with their services. Yes, most projects die. But it's not going to happen so fast. Yet, even such giants as ethereum have problems which are now solved. After 5 years we will see how weak projects will die. On the Internet there is a video where Sasha Ivanov SEO WAVES talked about it too


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Djabba on December 14, 2017, 11:15:41 AM
Now you can see that some coins lose popularity and people sell them and go out. And with each month more and more new coins appear and all of them will not be able to exist. I agree that most will leave the market but I do not think that it will be so much 95% - maybe half and disappear but not quickly


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Ryan Dugan on December 15, 2017, 05:35:18 AM
Most crypto have no actual backing and you just investing in an idea when you buy their coins. Some crypto is more useful and can be used in various ways as well as to buy things like ltc doge eth waves ect

Most crypto is there because they dream to be used one day as currency though you right 95% will fail. This is because we only need a few currencies not hundreds so it makes sense only the best will survive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Sniar on December 15, 2017, 10:35:52 AM
Of course they won't make it through the 2018.
It's thousands of ICOs and coins that are releasing every week, even every day. Tons of ideas, most of them are the copies of each other with a small differences. It's natural filter if they're leaving market rapidly after the release. But a great ideas and platforms will definitely get stuck and survive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: munareal on December 15, 2017, 10:48:29 AM
Variety is the spice of life. Having many coins will keep developers on their feet because they know there is a lot of competitions out there.My favorite coin might not be yours for that more than 25% will be viable. Those that will die are the scam coins


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Igorgnome on December 15, 2017, 04:56:43 PM
In my opinion everything is so except one.  Why did you decide that all this will happen in 2018? These processes will be longer. Maybe in 2018 currency and ICO projects will be much greater than in 2017.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Ch1bi on December 15, 2017, 05:17:10 PM
It's so strange, I seen this a similar thread with saying x coin won't survive (insert year) I think maybe 70% of coins won't survive. A lot of coins fail and if ICO failures are any indicator, bad coins might follow suit.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: iram1011 on December 15, 2017, 05:25:49 PM
I can't agree more. Even Bitcoin itself falls in the category of cryptocurrencies with no major use case. But whether 2018 will be the year where 95% cryptocurrencies will fail that I highly doubt.

Many medium to low cap currencies are failing everyday. Most ICOs are indeed meant for taking money from investors and running away. We have seen many such "successful" ICOs recently and that is way too common because of the absence of any regulation. Most of the cryptos will end in tears and the process is ongoing. But it isn't the year 2018. This will take place in long term. In coming 4-5 years, we might see that happening.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptocrocs on December 15, 2017, 05:27:44 PM
Seems like it will happen soon when the BTC price goes to the moon and hit $50k the most of alts will be dead because they are all measured using satoshi.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: spngebob on December 15, 2017, 05:37:34 PM
Seems like it will happen soon when the BTC price goes to the moon and hit $50k the most of alts will be dead because they are all measured using satoshi.
Put your trading glasses on!
Do you see how all altcoins are increasing their value following bitcoins value? Litecoin, ripple, monero, dash, ethereum and many others are literary growing each day, when bitcoin reach $50K other altcoins will follow.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: thesavoyard on December 15, 2017, 05:45:10 PM
I really don't get how they think altcoins are going to die. They seem to be doing pretty well to me. If anything, BTC is going to lose its top spot in 2018.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Antiqua on December 15, 2017, 05:48:00 PM
Seems like it will happen soon when the BTC price goes to the moon and hit $50k the most of alts will be dead because they are all measured using satoshi.
Put your trading glasses on!
Do you see how all altcoins are increasing their value following bitcoins value? Litecoin, ripple, monero, dash, ethereum and many others are literary growing each day, when bitcoin reach $50K other altcoins will follow.
when BTC price skyrocketing, altprice is down because the money moving from alt to BTC
after sometime it will back to alt but bigger because of profit at BTC bull rally
but at some case i agree with you
95% is too much to said that it will failed


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: CryptosapienZA on December 15, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
While I agree with the consensus that a majority of ICOs are scams. However I dont know if they will fail. We have had an incredible year. I dont know if the fast growth will continue into the new year.. However I do think things might slow down a little towards 2018 Q3&4.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Visin on December 15, 2017, 05:50:46 PM
surely many are disappointed if 95% crypto can not survive in 2018 because surely many who have held it even for a long time
Not everyone knows that the coins listed in the top 3 ranks will fall out of the list. There is too many coins for people to worry on.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: thesavoyard on December 15, 2017, 05:50:56 PM
While I agree with the consensus that a majority of ICOs are scams. However I dont know if they will fail. We have had an incredible year. I dont know if the fast growth will continue into the new year.. However I do think things might slow down a little towards 2018 Q3&4.

ICOs I think will pitter out, I think the fad may be passing. But Altcoins are going to rise against BTC and one will take the top market cap. I think BTC will be lucky to finish in the top 5 of 2018. There just isn't any just case for its position in the current market.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: AVAMONEY on December 15, 2017, 06:01:01 PM
Don't be pessimistic, some project are still on good way. Through, There are a lot of things which are almost irrelevant and this is one of them.
I still keep investing in several Crypto's such as XMl, XRP, BCH. I still have believe if we get even 1 right then we could make merry.
In 2018, there would be many competition, altcoin will open the world comment with many new project ideas.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: bitorama on December 15, 2017, 06:12:52 PM
I think 2018 will be a crazy year for altcoins and forkcoins


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: MD Nur Hossain on December 15, 2017, 06:30:35 PM
Already there are a lot of alt coin in coinmarketcap & everyday many coin added in newly.So i think every coin is not potential.After within 2years or 3years  i think 30% coin will be failed to surviving in market.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: HELLOFF on December 15, 2017, 06:37:05 PM
Already there are a lot of alt coin in coinmarketcap & everyday many coin added in newly.So i think every coin is not potential.After within 2years or 3years  i think 30% coin will be failed to surviving in market.
but you just Look at the speed with which new and new company spawners are developing today, which are almost exclusively aimed at collecting money from investors and at the same time, their coins then become cheaper by leaps and bounds. Thus, it can be concluded that all the coins that have been created have recently died.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: MD Nur Hossain on December 15, 2017, 06:38:10 PM
I think 2018 will be a crazy year for altcoins and forkcoins
Also I think in 2017 last month is so much crazy for specially BTC,ETH and LTC price is outstanding growing.I hope 2018 is more crazy from 2017.
Now should hold tightly in good alt coin


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: spngebob on December 15, 2017, 06:38:25 PM
Seems like it will happen soon when the BTC price goes to the moon and hit $50k the most of alts will be dead because they are all measured using satoshi.
Put your trading glasses on!
Do you see how all altcoins are increasing their value following bitcoins value? Litecoin, ripple, monero, dash, ethereum and many others are literary growing each day, when bitcoin reach $50K other altcoins will follow.
when BTC price skyrocketing, altprice is down because the money moving from alt to BTC
after sometime it will back to alt but bigger because of profit at BTC bull rally
but at some case i agree with you
95% is too much to said that it will failed
Bitcoin price is skyrocketing, unless you think price increase in less than a year from 1000$ to 17500$ isn't skyrocketing.
https://i.imgur.com/kt2YeAe.png
Comparing to beginning of the year, which one is down?


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: gtsmmst on December 15, 2017, 06:43:18 PM
im sure  2018 will be a crazy year for altcoins and ICO, because people understand that it is our future  :P


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: btcdepo on December 15, 2017, 07:10:38 PM
95% is way too much, maybe 50%, the altcoins without any real projects

Unfortunately I'm agree with the 95 percent statement. If you look at the majority of the projects, they don't serve much for the public, so to think that all those will not survive in 2018 looks pretty logical to me.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: akashark on December 15, 2017, 07:14:19 PM
I don't think so. Rather I think cryptocurrency have a good future and it will happen from 2018.  Yes, Some crypto will be vanish because lake of value you know. But maximum will be stable and pump also.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: jaredl on December 17, 2017, 07:53:40 AM
Many crypto coins that promise the sky and cannot deliver will vanish in 2018. And many coins that have a weak idea that is easily replicated by others, such as connecting a credit card to crypto, will get overrun with competition that their company will be worthless and their coins will diminished in value.

Only coins that are either a mainstay in the minds of people like BTC, ETH, Litecoin as well as coins that are delivering a unique use case that is not easy to replicate will survive in 2018. Examples ... look at Playkey and POWR etc.

Playkey has a lead in the game streaming industry and is the only player currently, plus they have an existing user base who are paying them a monthly subscription. They will flourish in 2018.

POWR is building a peer-to-peer renewable energy trading platform. While others can replicate their technology, not many companies can boast numerous trial projects ongoing as well as government support. This will boom in 2018 too.

I can list plenty that will boom in 2018 and even more that will bust in 2018.

What is clear is that crypto is here to stay.. and if you cant discern what is a real use case versus a scam, then u will lose your pants. I would recommend that you just buy ethereum and hodl!!!


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: qazgroup on December 17, 2017, 07:56:29 AM
Yes, crypto world is risky, that is why i insist on investing only in quality projects with real professional team members. There a lot of useless projects that will be hard to survive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Dark Helix on December 17, 2017, 07:58:34 AM
Ambrosus (AMB) will definitely survive. It was fully compliant through KYC and still do date.

The company is a supply chain coin (token) where they use sensors and RFID chips along the way. The difference is that they track the content of the supply (i.e if the product is organic, what % of heavy metals it includes, fat content and a lot more). They are starting out with food and Pharma products but they state their coin is supply agnostic.

They have a Stella cast of employees with highly experienced professionals in their field. They also have a few big names backing their coin - Oliver Bussmann, David Drake, Gavin Wood.

As they have been fully compliant along the way, the Swiss government funded 30 mil Swiss francs to their business. The CEO (Angel) previously worked for the UN in the sustainability area. This has cemented the UN's backing also (only coin to have this).

They have also partnered with the grocery supply chain coin - INS (just about to reach their hard cap in ICO stage).

I am going to provide you with a few important links that I highly recommend you read (you will thank me once you invest at such a low price).

https://ambrosus.com

https://blog.ambrosus.com
https://blog.ambrosus.com/ambrosus-progress-report-2-dec-2017-d91447f05cd7
https://blog.ambrosus.com/crossroads-towards-a-universal-browser-for-deals-1905b024dee3

https://www.reddit.com/r/ambrosus/

(****CEO CONDUCTED AN AMA ON REDDIT TODAY. WORTH THE READ****)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ambrosus/comments/7jkman/ama_with_angel_versetti/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ambrosus/comments/79a6no/why_is_ambrosus_amb_so_valuable_and_why_after_60/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ambrosus/comments/7jrv3n/why_is_ambrosus_amb_so_valuable_and_my_second/

https://blog.ins.world/blockchain-based-grocery-supply-chain-announcing-ambrosus-partnership-f44732ff78ab


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: summonerrk on December 17, 2017, 08:26:02 AM
And thats right! Do you see ico on late projects? They all a scam! for example "Scam Token" - its just a joke token. It need to be burned.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: jimmyjohnjimmy on December 17, 2017, 12:12:00 PM
I wouldn't claim that 95% without any stats or figures.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: mrayazgul on December 17, 2017, 12:16:37 PM
Yes, crypto world is risky, that is why i insist on investing only in quality projects with real professional team members. There a lot of useless projects that will be hard to survive.

I do not agree with the OP statement. Useless and shit coins will not survive , that's for sure but this does not mean that good coins will fail also. I think we are moving in digital era and in 2018 we will see more growth in bitcoins and good altcoins. I think only good coins will survive in 2018 and there will be no room for scam or pump/dump coins.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: YackBallz on December 17, 2017, 12:21:55 PM
the price wont keep raising,but now  we could not see the  where is the top!but i don't think this crypto market will up to 2018!
 a lot of people will lose they money if they spent their money on  crypto  investment!


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Zero1One0 on December 17, 2017, 02:06:00 PM
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”


I agree. The are also some tokens or coins that are given freely as airdrops that are just scam or $hittoken on eth platform and are just being dumped on the market for the benefit of the devs to gain btc.

Some tokens and coins do have interesting use case. Do check always their whitepaper.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: CaptainKid on December 17, 2017, 02:15:24 PM
Yes, crypto world is risky, that is why i insist on investing only in quality projects with real professional team members. There a lot of useless projects that will be hard to survive.
Everyone wants to invest only in successful and reliable projects, but unfortunately they are not so easy to choose and determine the professionalism of the team, if you do not have too much experience.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: on December 17, 2017, 02:27:38 PM
Yes, crypto world is risky, that is why i insist on investing only in quality projects with real professional team members. There a lot of useless projects that will be hard to survive.
Everyone wants to invest only in successful and reliable projects, but unfortunately they are not so easy to choose and determine the professionalism of the team, if you do not have too much experience.

I think people here are happy enough to invest in scams, as long as they get some profit and when it's other people losing their money and not them.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Rhaizan on December 17, 2017, 02:34:01 PM
Yes, crypto world is risky, that is why i insist on investing only in quality projects with real professional team members. There a lot of useless projects that will be hard to survive.
Everyone wants to invest only in successful and reliable projects, but unfortunately they are not so easy to choose and determine the professionalism of the team, if you do not have too much experience.

Experience is the best teacher, this is our way to learn a lot, if we fail at the first time experience we need to learn about it, failure doesn't mean you are a weak ,it can also teach us to learn so next time we avoid invest in scam.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Luke1706 on December 17, 2017, 02:46:55 PM
Will Dash reach the top 5?

Dash is a cryptocoin based on Bitcoin-technology that seeks to be the world's most user-friendly cryptocurrency.
Visit https://coinpioneer.net/coin-guide/dash-description (https://coinpioneer.net/coin-guide/dash-description) for the full coin description.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: sudnokpok on December 17, 2017, 02:52:32 PM
I'm on the same wave with you but I find it normal. Many projects doesn't have anything real behind them and they are collecting money because of the mass hype. However, 95% is too harsh number. I would say 75%-80% will not survive or at least their price will fall to similar levels.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Celebrity on December 17, 2017, 02:54:57 PM
Yes, crypto world is risky, that is why i insist on investing only in quality projects with real professional team members. There a lot of useless projects that will be hard to survive.
Everyone wants to invest only in successful and reliable projects, but unfortunately they are not so easy to choose and determine the professionalism of the team, if you do not have too much experience.

Experience is the best teacher, this is our way to learn a lot, if we fail at the first time experience we need to learn about it, failure doesn't mean you are a weak ,it can also teach us to learn so next time we avoid invest in scam.

Lot of comments were saying most of the altcoins will die in 2018 but another altcoin trend started last week and it shifted their prices up to the ceiling. Then the people changed their opinions about the topic.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: CaptainKid on December 17, 2017, 03:50:42 PM
Yes, crypto world is risky, that is why i insist on investing only in quality projects with real professional team members. There a lot of useless projects that will be hard to survive.
Everyone wants to invest only in successful and reliable projects, but unfortunately they are not so easy to choose and determine the professionalism of the team, if you do not have too much experience.

Experience is the best teacher, this is our way to learn a lot, if we fail at the first time experience we need to learn about it, failure doesn't mean you are a weak ,it can also teach us to learn so next time we avoid invest in scam.

Lot of comments were saying most of the altcoins will die in 2018 but another altcoin trend started last week and it shifted their prices up to the ceiling. Then the people changed their opinions about the topic.
If even the old altcoins "die" - then still new and new will appear. Because, all altcoins is a part of the market, there are weak ones not needed, but there are really promising and useful. From this you can not escape.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: justBorn on December 17, 2017, 03:54:00 PM
Come on, I am getting started. Hoping the crypto currency will live much longer than I expected. I want to study the crypto first my friends told me that I can easily earn profit here.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: QFT on December 17, 2017, 03:54:05 PM
Yes, crypto world is risky, that is why i insist on investing only in quality projects with real professional team members. There a lot of useless projects that will be hard to survive.
Everyone wants to invest only in successful and reliable projects, but unfortunately they are not so easy to choose and determine the professionalism of the team, if you do not have too much experience.

Experience is the best teacher, this is our way to learn a lot, if we fail at the first time experience we need to learn about it, failure doesn't mean you are a weak ,it can also teach us to learn so next time we avoid invest in scam.

Lot of comments were saying most of the altcoins will die in 2018 but another altcoin trend started last week and it shifted their prices up to the ceiling. Then the people changed their opinions about the topic.
If even the old altcoins "die" - then still new and new will appear. Because, all altcoins is a part of the market, there are weak ones not needed, but there are really promising and useful. From this you can not escape.

Let's hope everyone can see in the future which projects are scams and which aren't. It already seems that for example less people are participating in those fake airdrops.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: luffare on December 17, 2017, 03:58:00 PM
Will Dash reach the top 5?
Today it's Litecoin which is Number 5 in the capitalization category and its capitalization is about $17 500 000 000.
Nowadays there are 7 758 663 circulating coins of DASH so if you wanna DASH to become the last coin in TOP-5 of the cryptocurrency world or another words to take rank #5 in the capitalization category its price should be 2 times more than now or about $2150.
My question is will DASH become coin #2 in the list (I mean the price of the coin)? Will DASH overtake BCH?


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: terbetet on December 17, 2017, 04:32:39 PM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg
It was a too big percentage to be stated that 95% of the cryptocurrencies will not survive in 2018. How can you say so? Because I guess in our current time, all the cryptocurrencies are fighting back to improve their price to be  profitable and accountable for massive usage by the consumers. Eliminating such a great amount of the total number of the existing cryptocurrencies are impossible. Maybe a range of 20% is possible but 95%? That was a too big amount for those who will not survive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: webmone on December 19, 2017, 07:45:57 AM
I am sure that the most cryptocurrencies will be over with the time. But when it will happen no one could tell. It is doubtfully that it will become the reality in 2018. So early no premises. We’ll wait.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: jmarkushaber on December 19, 2017, 08:06:37 AM
Ambrosus (AMB) will definitely survive. It was fully compliant through KYC and still do date.

The company is a supply chain coin (token) where they use sensors and RFID chips along the way. The difference is that they track the content of the supply (i.e if the product is organic, what % of heavy metals it includes, fat content and a lot more). They are starting out with food and Pharma products but they state their coin is supply agnostic.

They have a Stella cast of employees with highly experienced professionals in their field. They also have a few big names backing their coin - Oliver Bussmann, David Drake, Gavin Wood.

As they have been fully compliant along the way, the Swiss government funded 30 mil Swiss francs to their business. The CEO (Angel) previously worked for the UN in the sustainability area. This has cemented the UN's backing also (only coin to have this).

They have also partnered with the grocery supply chain coin - INS (just about to reach their hard cap in ICO stage).

I am going to provide you with a few important links that I highly recommend you read (you will thank me once you invest at such a low price).

https://ambrosus.com

https://blog.ambrosus.com
https://blog.ambrosus.com/ambrosus-progress-report-2-dec-2017-d91447f05cd7
https://blog.ambrosus.com/crossroads-towards-a-universal-browser-for-deals-1905b024dee3

https://www.reddit.com/r/ambrosus/

(****CEO CONDUCTED AN AMA ON REDDIT TODAY. WORTH THE READ****)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ambrosus/comments/7jkman/ama_with_angel_versetti/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ambrosus/comments/79a6no/why_is_ambrosus_amb_so_valuable_and_why_after_60/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ambrosus/comments/7jrv3n/why_is_ambrosus_amb_so_valuable_and_my_second/

https://blog.ins.world/blockchain-based-grocery-supply-chain-announcing-ambrosus-partnership-f44732ff78ab

Very interesting token. Do you think it can compete with the likes of VEN (Vechain), WTC, WaBi, and Modum, which already have first mover advantage and established business deals?

I see Ambrosia was built by Parity Technologies, which is interesting. Not exactly fair to say Gavin Wood is "backing" their coin when he was hired to build it though...


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: shiningstar on December 19, 2017, 08:09:48 AM
I agree that most of the ico / coin without use case will die or disappear but that kind of number is a bit high and the number of new icos that will appear is still a lot so it's the same situation again. The new vaporware will replace the old one and people will still put their money there.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: sakokinak on December 20, 2017, 05:43:38 AM
I believe that this will be correct, because now there are too many useless tokens which, after conducting the ICO, immediately lose their value. Thus, next year you will see many unnecessary coins in your wallet if you do not analyze their prospects.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: CryptoKranthi on December 20, 2017, 05:52:02 AM
bullshit lol
the new projects that come always come with a use case and for a reason
there will be more and more crypto's and they all will find some use case
and some of them will be only for trading

only the bad coins and the scams will die
its not 95% ..  ;)

True. Projects on the crypto platform are for practical use not just for investment plans. How could they die if they have something to offer.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: needfix24 on December 20, 2017, 06:31:38 AM
This is not true, we all know they are still a lot of crypto currency that are very active and profitable.
Ofcourse , i think everyday or every week theres a lot of altcoins project pops up there. But some are scammers and just need the money of the traders.
Still this projects that comes out will have a probability to be a stable altcoins, no one knows. Each project has its own objective and we cant if its true or not.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptonomics_dealer on December 23, 2017, 11:39:38 PM
It reallly depends from project. Until there is a place where you can use this cryptocurrency - it will never die. Some of existing currencies don't have these plases, so it depends on time how long their life will be .


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: francis2 on December 23, 2017, 11:43:21 PM
About 4 years ago I've mined about 80 new altcoins shortly after they were announced here.

I've gone through the wallets and the statistics of survivability are:
- Only one of them took up nicely (DASH) and is now valuable.
- About 8% of them sort of survived and gained some small value (not much though ...)
- about 40% of them are alive, but their value is dwindling. Probably they will die off sooner or later
- The rest (about 50%) are now dead.

Note that then and now is a bit different (there were no Scrypt ASICs, less miners in general, more traditional PoW coins and less premine/PoS/ICOs), so as the market is a bit saturated, I guess survivability of a coin born today would be probably worse than 4 years ago, unless the coin would now come with some killer feature or some form of mass advertising itself.
The truth is that most coins do not offer anything new and that is why those coins do not gain any value, people are very busy investing in the latest coin claiming to be the new bitcoin to realize most coins have no future and they are only going to lose their money.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: handy_hotdog on December 24, 2017, 08:46:50 AM
I think that some altcoins will not last, but I don't think 95%. I would have facts and figures to back up statements like that.

No need to come out with shock news to scare people, because you are saying if there are 1,000 altcoins (which there are more) 950 are going to die in 2018. Don't be so silly.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: mustafayigittt on December 24, 2017, 08:52:07 AM
I think that is true but new project which has real good ideas are created by creators. Altcoins will survive all time but they will change their position between each other. some of them die some of them rise like IOTA.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: newinbtc on December 24, 2017, 09:04:14 AM
I agree with your point that , but few projects still good like DASH last year price was nearby 1 to 10$ but this year price is nearby 1300$, Doge coin is the one which everyone loving still its worth 0.008$ with very large supply , Ripple reached 1.2$ , Stellar is one of most popular project...

50% coins run away as they want to scam by collecting funds only... may be its not true price will be higher


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Enjorlas on December 24, 2017, 09:13:54 AM
98% is highly an exagerration.

60% maybe yes, but a lot of new projects will survive


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: grimoire5 on December 24, 2017, 02:44:28 PM
98% is highly an exagerration.

60% maybe yes, but a lot of new projects will survive
amazing prediction, 95% will fail in 2018
i've read extended of that rticle, promote another ICO
if they think their idea is in 5% from their own calculation, i think they are too much have selfconfidence
I'm on the same wave with you but I find it normal. Many projects doesn't have anything real behind them and they are collecting money because of the mass hype. However, 95% is too harsh number. I would say 75%-80% will not survive or at least their price will fall to similar levels.

if we talk about altcoin, that will be fine.. much new coin doesn't have more value than top 100 coin
but if we talk about token, it will different


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Qunenin on December 26, 2017, 04:56:06 AM
Nah,i dont think so.Alts will rally in the first quarter of 2018 maybe you have been mistaken 95% of the alts will pump as always.

Altcoin has a future and they will all survive in 2018 or maybe even grow now. All the altcoins are almost at all time low as Bitcoin is all time high, so it means that the alts will definalty rise again as the bitcoin settles itself.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: KingScorpio on December 26, 2017, 04:57:59 AM
Nah,i dont think so.Alts will rally in the first quarter of 2018 maybe you have been mistaken 95% of the alts will pump as always.

Altcoin has a future and they will all survive in 2018 or maybe even grow now. All the altcoins are almost at all time low as Bitcoin is all time high, so it means that the alts will definalty rise again as the bitcoin settles itself.


i would rather doubt bitcoins future actually


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: SearchingforS on December 26, 2017, 05:05:13 AM
I'd reduce that number to 40-50%, but not 95%, that's waay to much!


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: mariayaz on December 26, 2017, 05:07:29 AM
I don't think the percentage will be 95% but yes there are few useless projects, that's why its advisable to read their whitepapers and understand if they are really going to survive in future. To understand project you have to understand block chain technology first.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: charlie137 on December 26, 2017, 05:14:24 AM
95% are targeted to fail on purpose, so there is nothing wrong about it


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: francis2 on January 03, 2018, 02:54:41 AM
I believe that this will be correct, because now there are too many useless tokens which, after conducting the ICO, immediately lose their value. Thus, next year you will see many unnecessary coins in your wallet if you do not analyze their prospects.
And with the huge amount of forks which happened in this year is almost impossible to know how many of those coins you have and we have no idea we got them on the first place, so the next year is going to be very interesting regarding that.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Mzai620 on January 03, 2018, 03:21:48 AM
Coinmarketcap lists 1350 coins and tokens.  So 5% survive is 65.  Frankly I don't think there are that many genuine, viable long term projects, once you take account of consolidation (How many privacy coins do you need?  How many platforms do you need? How many decentralised market applications do you need).  Its just like the dotcom era, many people with whimsical projects that people are throwing money at on a promise for great financial gain, but without a lot of product, or experience to deliver. 

Maybe not 2018, but at some point many of the ones you know will collapse and fade, many others will limp on for years to big to go but ridiculed for their failure to achieve their promise (think Yahoo of the dotcom world).  Also something new will appear in the coming months and years to create a new buzz (Facebook was years late to the online world).


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: macchiato on January 03, 2018, 05:01:07 AM
I don't believe in this. We can never say what will happen to crypto coins this 2018. The only thing we are sure of is that coins will be volatile and unexpected things happen. All we have to do is keep track of coins' activities and observe.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: valying on January 03, 2018, 05:06:21 AM
Cryptocurrency is a revolution, and it will never die in 2018. This market will keep developing and make more value than now.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: buhna on January 03, 2018, 07:36:54 AM
Certainly so. At the moment, crypto has easy money. This causes greed in many people and, unfortunately, scammers. A good idea or bad time will tell. In any case, the technology of the blockchain is breakthrough. And this will somehow affect our lives. Someone will even be able to earn good money or even get rich, as it turned out with bitcoin. And as for 95% of ICO, which will sink into oblivion - this is evolution, the strongest survives. And this is justified.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: rikybrosh on January 03, 2018, 07:45:44 AM
I only thrust to 5 cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin, Ethereum, BCH, Litecoin and XCPO. Each of them has uniqeu characteristics. Bitcoin is the number one cryptocurrency although it's developer is gone, ETh has smartcontract, BCH is clone of bitcoin , Litecoin is one of promising cryptocurrency and XCPO has great developer that always keep their coin price rise. The developer of XCPO will build an e-commerce platform, this very good for XCPO and its masternode will become very profitable, many people are trade this coin in Cryptopia and mercatox. Those coin will survive in 2018.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: otunayode on January 03, 2018, 07:48:10 AM
Nobody knows that and I dare say your assumption is false! The market of cryptocurrency is much bigger now with a lot of investment running to Billions come into the market on regular basis!


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: bountyjunkie on January 03, 2018, 07:57:23 AM
90 % of VC money is lost as 90% VC funded startups get closed as well. If you are for the short time target the 90% you will be good, if you are believer in the ecosystem bet on the 10%.

Its not a game, its a way of life and living !


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: vendy86 on January 03, 2018, 08:11:12 AM
maybe yes if i say,
too many new coin appear in 2017,and so many of them already dead even before touch market.
only coin with strong community and good development can survive till the end.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: glaciercapital on January 03, 2018, 08:14:23 AM
maybe yes if i say,
too many new coin appear in 2017,and so many of them already dead even before touch market.
only coin with strong community and good development can survive till the end.


I tend to agree, even in the stock market over the long term 95% of listed companies die. I believe crypto will have faster cycles, but a lot of new innovative coins will also be born


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: LordShanken on January 03, 2018, 08:17:01 AM
It is really fake information. It is impossible, there are still starting  new coins so 2018 will be only better for them. Only bad coins will die so stop writing with your negative emotions.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: huoxuanjyphl591 on January 03, 2018, 08:23:04 AM
Yes, most of the new projects just want to gather people's money and run away with it. And this is why we have so many useless coins around. If this trend continues it would not surprise me to see the situation you mentioned next year.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: sandy14350 on January 03, 2018, 08:48:45 AM
I agree with your words but only the fake and useless coins get exit but not@95% but 10-20% coins get exit from markets but not that large scale mentioned by you dear, there are wonderful projects out there giving way to new markets and moto to change the world becuase alts have a long way to go


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: wildflower18 on January 03, 2018, 10:10:34 AM
I dont believe that cyrptocurrencies will not survive this year. There are many coins maybe some coins will not survive because of no plans for improvement in their project. Although there are many coins but not all would die others will continue to be strong and exists.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Tactical Genius on January 03, 2018, 10:19:13 AM
Well,you may have a point but this is based on mere speculation,like someone mentioned up there,you may have just counted airdrop ICOs only.In any case,there are always competitors to projects and that's how come some projects improve upon their services.So in fact such healthy competition will rather be the driving forces for most of these start ups and they will rather grace the occassion in my opinion.95% is a very huge number and to me unrealistic.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: howardhoward on January 03, 2018, 10:39:21 AM
On my mind, cryptocurrencies will evolve and survive. They are modern and adaptive. Until now we’ve seen a proliferation of both public blockchains like bitcoin and private blockchains like Hyperledger Fabric. Going forward, I think we’ll start to see the rise of hybrid blockchains, which combine the best of both worlds.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: ralph_0608 on January 03, 2018, 11:37:19 AM
Maybe yes maybe not. there are so many coins introduced day by day and most of it are just only want to get quick money to investor who may fall on their trap. every coins claiming that hey have the fastest, safest and cheapest coin to be used so only a true coins will stand and survive


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptoenterprise on January 03, 2018, 11:38:39 AM
That is quite possible, because not all are going to be needed in the future. Most probably the top 5 or 10 will be used and remain.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: fuer44 on January 03, 2018, 11:45:06 AM
I only thrust to 5 cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin, Ethereum, BCH, Litecoin and XCPO. Each of them has uniqeu characteristics. Bitcoin is the number one cryptocurrency although it's developer is gone, ETh has smartcontract, BCH is clone of bitcoin , Litecoin is one of promising cryptocurrency and XCPO has great developer that always keep their coin price rise. The developer of XCPO will build an e-commerce platform, this very good for XCPO and its masternode will become very profitable, many people are trade this coin in Cryptopia and mercatox. Those coin will survive in 2018.
I agree with you. it may be true if in 2018 there will be a lot of lost coins. but for the 5 cryptocurrencies, it will likely continue to survive and will never be lost.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: reisuke24 on January 03, 2018, 11:50:53 AM
maybe, some ico will fail, but the other will success. i never take side to ico that grow and born everyday, and i agree with you if everyday some coin release here, it mean not all people will join in that ico. but, people that want to invest their money in cryptocurrent will invest in ice that have great destination. and maybe, they try to race with other to attract participant and investor to develop their project,


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: hakuna on January 03, 2018, 12:06:15 PM
Lol that's a pure provocation! Crypto-market will grow by 2 times in 2018, I believe.

I agree ;D
I think that, before the crash, we still have 2-3 years.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: roshanface123 on January 03, 2018, 12:16:56 PM
May be its truth most of the coins fail but for me the coin which i thought almost dead like Dent is given 1000 times profit . Now people are misguided with crypto currency where you will get huge profit in overnight thats what happening now lots investing ICO getting some bonus coin and selling the coin once hit to the market . But the people who really believing project and investing on that getting profit . About scam its because  greedy people . Scammers will utilize these greedy people . People should start to invest on real project instead only looking for short term money.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: stormbono on January 03, 2018, 12:34:18 PM
30 to 50 will survive pure bevause of the fact they offer quality..

All the rest will vanish


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: LUCKY21 on January 03, 2018, 12:38:23 PM
Indeed, a lot of ICO companies are going through now and not all of them will be successful. Actually, in my opinion, 10% of them will survive. Companies that offer a product that people really need and have perfect technology are vivid.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: jacquelinecr on January 03, 2018, 01:11:51 PM
It is highly likely that will be the case in the future, since not many of them are actually useful anymore, but they are under development constantly.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: fatenmo on January 03, 2018, 02:42:38 PM
Nobody knows that and I dare say your assumption is false! The market of cryptocurrency is much bigger now with a lot of investment running to Billions come into the market on regular basis!

Its true that the market is big right now, and cryptocurrencies will show a different kind of light in 2018, it will interesting to see where coins like Ripple or Stellar or Ethereum end up by the end of this year or even sooner.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: VeeTeaSee on January 03, 2018, 02:45:45 PM
its not like 95% of crypto currency wont survive in the 2018, its longer process...
in this process other coins will be made and there will be more new top ideas
just like in the real world of start-ups


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Geenstijl on January 03, 2018, 05:05:38 PM
Nothing will change in the world of crypto currency in 2018. If big changes start happen it will probably be in a few years, when the market will be oversaturated with altcoins. Only the strongest projects should survive here.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: desciglio2 on January 03, 2018, 05:14:55 PM
There are too many ICO periods and projects are being promote. Of course not all of them will survive, but I think 20% can survive    :-\


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: mohammedfaiz143 on January 03, 2018, 05:15:41 PM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg

For the past 4 years I have been reading such articles, and I actually believed them in the beginning . When BTC dipped to 200$ in 2015 Jan alot of posts were made about how altcoins will die. But as years passed I have seen altcoins hanging on. To be fair altcoins have brought a lot of innovation to the cryptocurrency scene.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: rammanbl4 on January 03, 2018, 05:25:59 PM
I really don't get how they think altcoins are going to die. They seem to be doing pretty well to me. If anything, BTC is going to lose its top spot in 2018.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: rasyiqul1505 on January 03, 2018, 05:32:16 PM
altcoin will always be on this forum. I do not believe in you, because altcoin will always be there and there is always altcoin created every year.
someday one of altcoin will lead the cripto currency.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: adsdas on January 03, 2018, 06:13:14 PM
poor you, your prediction is not right now. There are hundreds coins are borned every day. there are also hundreds companies accept cryptocurrency or blockchain technology in their survice. altcoins are never die.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: shwetaji on January 04, 2018, 02:00:31 AM
We should hope to best. Cryptocurrencies will
defenetely survive in 2018. So without any tension
you can survive with Crypto.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Gogochen on January 04, 2018, 02:02:53 AM
I don't think so. 2018 is clearly still a bull market, so in a bull market, all tokens are not going to die, but when the bear market comes, I agree with you.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Singbatak on January 04, 2018, 02:03:55 AM
I'm on the same wave with you but I find it normal. Many projects doesn't have anything real behind them and they are collecting money because of the mass hype. However, 95% is too harsh number. I would say 75%-80% will not survive or at least their price will fall to similar levels.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: ipanks on January 04, 2018, 02:10:31 AM
cryptocurrency will survive in 2018 but not all coins will do because they need to get people support to stay alive and this is the hardest thing that they can do. I think only the strong coins that have solid dev and teams that will stay exist and will continue their journey in cryptocurrency so they can attract more visitor and help them to make a big profit. every people right now are waiting for their own profit because the altcoin gives a good movement in the beginning of 2018.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Othakathik07 on January 04, 2018, 02:29:17 AM
a lot of potential in the digital currency, the potential to replace the global currency, banks and so on. but apart from that of course there is potential for fraud, and less good projects.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: jyotianand01 on January 04, 2018, 02:47:32 AM
It is depend on your study that what coin you find for you as in last 2 years, many new coins comes in this market and only some coins are disappear and some coins give decent return and some not able to prove their credibility. It depends on the developers behind every coin, how they manage things to survive in this competitive market.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: FDC1412 on January 04, 2018, 03:11:16 AM
I think generalizing the whole cryptocurrency is wrong. many of the crypto or alts are worthless and therefore it will have no future. Other than those, succeeding cryptos continue to have its rate go higher and higher.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Scallywag on January 04, 2018, 03:15:47 AM
I'm not sure if it will be 2018 but it will happen eventually.
This is the time to pick projects with good teams and tech behind them.
They will survive .


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: taongam on January 04, 2018, 03:21:34 AM
It's like a story about an anti-utopia. Each project is individual, and if behind the project is a good idea and a clever team, then such a coin will not fall and will not disappear. The fact that in 2018 will disappear 90% of shit ICO and shit coins - this is what I believe. People will become more selective in their investments.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Akash1243 on January 04, 2018, 03:28:29 AM
Well there are many many coins released and not all of the coins are good.Most of the coins are just made to pool in some money that's all or are scam they don't put much of an idea behind the coins and these coins must not survive in 2018.But the coins with a good idea and a vision for future and also has good team,cap value will not fall and will survive.I think people should watch and invest.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Entei on January 04, 2018, 11:02:12 AM
In my opinion 95% is an exaggeration regarding the survival of the coins, we should look in another perspective less agressive, I agree that many fraudulent coins will disappear along with those projects that are not very useful. We can say that in 2018 there will be a structuring of the altcoins to match in strong demand in the near future.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Pain Packer on January 04, 2018, 11:16:49 AM
Although it's true but you think 95% is just a bit much? Can you provide some data other than article to prove you're claim? Maybe some of the ICOs are scam but each of them has a purpose.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: KingKrypto on January 04, 2018, 11:23:39 AM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg

There is 8 Billion people out there, I think having 20.000 types of crypto currencies it's good, why? Supply and Demand, survival of the fittest, competition! Imagine if we only had Bitcoin. If you wanted to transfer 10$, you had to pay 20$ in taxes..


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Bonakid on January 04, 2018, 11:28:17 AM
I belive that cryptocurrency will survive in the year 2018.Iam hoping that it will continue and Im wishing that it can be supported in any country.It has a 100% that it can be our payment system soon we can survive in crypto.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: AiwonOleh on January 04, 2018, 11:34:03 AM
So worthy projects on the market left very little, and new projects are very unreliable so they do not want to invest


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: ravedien on January 04, 2018, 11:40:38 AM
yep, some will survive, so better to step up the research time and be active in the community as a investor.
You are investing on the future so better to take the risk


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptogeek101 on January 04, 2018, 11:41:40 AM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg


The crypto issue as stated above is a very realistic statement of purpose, many cryptocurrencies will fail and few will survive. Already some have started failing while some have giving their early investors huge gains. For example my girl friend got some oyster pearl(PRL) at the early period now she has made so much money with it.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Johnzky on January 04, 2018, 11:44:00 AM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just iddeas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg
this is very exaggerated 95% ?is this a joke?lol your impossible this will never
 happen although theres a lot of scam ICO still majority of them are Good project and
has a potential for growth.so theres no reason of telling this kind of thread..

Not because bitcoin is dimoninating means altcoins will die no this will never happen


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: evilsign on January 04, 2018, 11:56:11 AM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg
There is 8 Billion people out there, I think having 20.000 types of crypto currencies it's good, why? Supply and Demand, survival of the fittest, competition! Imagine if we only had Bitcoin. If you wanted to transfer 10$, you had to pay 20$ in taxes..
yes it's true, the competition of crypto is normal. We can join it or just leave it, it's all up to you :D


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: qiwoman2 on January 04, 2018, 11:59:18 AM
I doubt that 95% of coins will fail. Doin ICOS now for startups or established businesses is just the new way of financing business on the blockchain, allowing even more investors, large or small to participate in venture capital. I think this is just something to scare new people off from investing in Blockchain tech and business because it is taking away the old corporate domination paradigm.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: blozo on January 04, 2018, 12:00:39 PM
For sure a lot of new projects will fail with time. But the 10/20% of good projects that you have invested will explode  :)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: wishman93 on January 04, 2018, 12:03:24 PM
I don't agree with you a 100% on this. As far as I can tell, altcoins are doing pretty well so far jst one week into 2018. Ex: TRX


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Sallysakky on January 04, 2018, 12:07:24 PM
Good projects will grow up much more faster while scams will die in 2018. Competition between altcoins is very big.
Talking about market capitalization it's growing very fast, but the amount is not particularly correct, because of many non-tradable alts which artificialy grow when BTC grow.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Chosenpai on January 04, 2018, 12:11:07 PM
I don't think its possible. The competition on altcoins is very big that is why some of the coins have not survive but it doesn't mean that almost all of them will not make. There are still good coins with good potentials.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: sarfwr on January 04, 2018, 12:24:04 PM
I think that as long as we're in a bull market, most of the ICO projects won't die, because their fundamental purpose is to circle the money, so they won't stop developing.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: panghae on January 04, 2018, 12:27:07 PM
Thats very possible if the BTC surged up to a new ATH alts will bleed and the ones will less than 10sats wont have any value anymore.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dangdangdang on January 04, 2018, 12:28:27 PM
I don't think so, 95% of Cryptocurrencies will not die but instead they will pass a lot of challenges and they're going to make good strategies in order push their coin forward and place it to the topp list of best coins in 2018.
Probably 5% of them will passed out but never the large scale of Altcoins will survive even with strict regulations will be implemented.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: AA_Bitcoin on January 04, 2018, 12:29:13 PM
And which 5% are you counting on?


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dangdangdang on January 04, 2018, 12:31:34 PM
Thats very possible if the BTC surged up to a new ATH alts will bleed and the ones will less than 10sats wont have any value anymore.

I don't agree with the statement, while Bitcoin rise Altcoins will go together otherwise Altcoins will bleed together with Bitcoin as well.
When Bitcoin pumps almost all the strongest Altcoins are pumping also and that's the fact if we're going to use the history data as reference.
Only weak coins will pass out but not because Bitcoin dropped but it's all because of the project itself failed.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dangdangdang on January 04, 2018, 12:34:52 PM
And which 5% are you counting on?

Weak coins, I given a rate of 5% for weak coins over thousands of Cryptocurrencies that has been circulated on the market.
Since I started joining signature bounty campaigns I received a lot of coins but some of them didn't hit the exchange markets so I tend to conclude that these coins passed out due to low ICO quality and their project failed.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: KXC247 on January 04, 2018, 12:36:40 PM
Many altcoins are not going to survive it because,. Some of the developers might be working on the project further.

Some cryptos have very bad idea I must say

But to be conservative,  75 percent would die off. That's for sure


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: chrisfatos on January 04, 2018, 01:11:01 PM
quite true your thread, i also believe that most cryptocurrencies will not survive, but in 2018? is quite soon. I believe they will survive this year, maybe not next year.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: IfixTchenTchen on January 04, 2018, 01:21:17 PM
This analysis it too pessimistic, only a few projects are complete bullshit, most of the the projects which gets attention and get funded have a reason to be, and most of them will thrive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: dinofelis on January 04, 2018, 01:22:37 PM
Obviously Bitcoin is an apple of cryptoindustry. Just because it was the 1st. Who tasted it and still holding really liked it's taste.

It is more like CP/M of the crypto industry  ;D


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Cloak1 on January 04, 2018, 01:26:08 PM
I guess so. Although there will be a lot of cryptocurrencies that come up in 2018, not all of them are promising to have a good future in this year. They may look great and promising at the first,  but some of them will show a sudden decrease or even can be bankrupt,  and some maybe just scam. So,  only a few of them that will survive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: ployfit on January 04, 2018, 01:35:28 PM
I guess so. Although there will be a lot of cryptocurrencies that come up in 2018, not all of them are promising to have a good future in this year. They may look great and promising at the first,  but some of them will show a sudden decrease or even can be bankrupt,  and some maybe just scam. So,  only a few of them that will survive.

You guess so but the moment is not showing this, look at the market, all the coins are green, even the garbage ones reached one billion dollar markey cap, this is just annoying. Money is flowing through the coins, but to the wrong ones.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: magmar on January 04, 2018, 01:41:26 PM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg

If that will really take away those shit coins and those icos that are just trash that would be very nice for me the less coins the much reliable they will be because those who are left are just the coins that really have a future and i hope that those coins that i invested in are the ones thay are in to that 5% that you are talking about. But lets just not forget that bitcoins will still be the leading cryptocurrency in that time i am hundred percent sure of that because they still hace the people.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: gustaf.berg on January 04, 2018, 01:50:13 PM
quite true your thread, i also believe that most cryptocurrencies will not survive, but in 2018? is quite soon. I believe they will survive this year, maybe not next year.

Good observation. Last day when I Was having conversation with my friends I said exactly same thing. During the year most of them will disappear. Only the ones that has things to offer will survive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptochr on January 04, 2018, 02:34:51 PM
That question will need to wait to be answered, so far, all coins are showing rise and potential. Only Bitcoin looks dead right now.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Legobatman on January 04, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
I think there will be a good amount of alts around. People are always looking for the next bitcoin


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: kobo_eth on January 04, 2018, 02:44:46 PM
Just take a look at coinmarket cap from january 2017 - compare top 10, then top 20, then all the rest

Now check coinmarket cap from january 2018 - how many from top 10 survived (you will be surprised), how many from top 20 (bigger surprise), for the rest - up to you to speculate. :)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: bering on January 04, 2018, 02:52:13 PM
i think in 2018 cryptocurrencies still survive because some people still consider ICO project still profitable and they don't have any plan to leave it but indeed the competition between ICO was very thight and only several project successfully and can last long but i have prediction that on 2018 new cryptocurrencies project still not lack of interest


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: plr on January 04, 2018, 03:14:10 PM
You better be a fortune teller,lol :D

He is not a fortune teller, he is just relying in articles to prove his point, but he may be right some of the ico coin from last year are now dead you are lucky if you invest last year in an ico and that coin is still alive today, that is why I'm very choosy when it comes to investing in ICO.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: AidenCasanova on January 04, 2018, 03:45:58 PM
i think in 2018 cryptocurrencies still survive because some people still consider ICO project still profitable and they don't have any plan to leave it but indeed the competition between ICO was very thight and only several project successfully and can last long but i have prediction that on 2018 new cryptocurrencies project still not lack of interest
Yeah, and 95% is too much i think
this day, we can find ICO with similar idea and not so much different aps
i think natural selection will aplly to them, but in this case trader selection
who can attract more traders and investor will win the market
not so much country limit and no restriction will apply


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptoquality on January 04, 2018, 04:08:35 PM
This analysis it too pessimistic, only a few projects are complete bullshit, most of the the projects which gets attention and get funded have a reason to be, and most of them will thrive.

If you think just few project is complete bullshit actually your thinking is optimistic, not that analysis is pessimistic.

Majority of the coins are created with the hope that bunch of guys will make millions in short time without offering anything to public.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: JoeriHugelier on January 04, 2018, 04:17:37 PM
How many will survive depends on how many will be able to actually accomplish what they set out to do. If it's just another payement system than it probably won't survive. If your not offering a specific service you will be replaced by a  (few) common currency (currencies).


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Tashi on January 04, 2018, 04:47:00 PM
Woah I think 95% is one big number to drop. I think mostly of the cryptocurrencies will still survive and some of them will be dead.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: YonaTAK1 on January 04, 2018, 04:49:36 PM
This is correct, very similar to what happened with the internet bubble in the 90s, 90% failed.

Be careful to only invest in companies with a real use case. Real use case and strong team is most important.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: anjohyx on January 04, 2018, 04:54:23 PM
I don't think so , 95% of cryptocurrencies is too much , maybe it'll not survive in next year , but 2018 still have more space to grow


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: vastmast on January 04, 2018, 05:28:53 PM
It was a rather pessimistic thought. Cash entry into the market is pretty much.
I do not think there will be a great loss in an economy that is growing so much ;)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: davoshuntcrypto on January 04, 2018, 05:46:13 PM
I do think that some altcoins will die out as the ecosystem is still growing, but I think to claim that 95% of them will die is a little high, without any facts to back it up.

Every system needs to sort itself out, and that is one of the ways it happens.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: karasuri on January 04, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
one should take into account how much cryptocurrency is now on the market and then this statement looks logical and correct.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: mohammedfaiz143 on January 04, 2018, 06:37:50 PM
one should take into account how much cryptocurrency is now on the market and then this statement looks logical and correct.

There a lot of altcoins in 2015 as well, but a lot of them has seemed to survive till now. So 95% is a wrong assumption, somewhere near 75% of alts will be gone might be a realistic assumption.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Crumple Cat on January 04, 2018, 06:43:04 PM
I don't think that it will be 95%, but many will really be blown away and some will burst completely.
The main thing is that it is generally useful for the ecosystem.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: muhdede on January 04, 2018, 06:56:59 PM
one should take into account how much cryptocurrency is now on the market and then this statement looks logical and correct.

There a lot of altcoins in 2015 as well, but a lot of them has seemed to survive till now. So 95% is a wrong assumption, somewhere near 75% of alts will be gone might be a realistic assumption.

yes 95% percentage is too much. there are still many cryptocurrencies that until now still survive maybe some of the coins do not survive because the project on the roadmap is inconsistent in developing it, yes it is undeniable that the crypto world as it is fighting so is the strongest that can dominate the market


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Thepoint on January 04, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
I don't think that it will be 95%, but many will really be blown away and some will burst completely.
The main thing is that it is generally useful for the ecosystem.

That percentage is really very high as a prediction besides another thing that has to be said is that while is true that some will not survive new ones will surely come with time.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: real eyes realize on January 04, 2018, 07:29:20 PM
I think it is a big probability that 95% or more of cryptocurrencies will not survive in 2018. Because of the scams and bad ideas, it is nearly impossible that the demand for many of the altcoins will increase.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: hran1085 on January 04, 2018, 07:36:04 PM
some of them will die, but crypto attract new funding in 2018, I don't think it will happpen in 2018 though.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: LEARNTOWIN on January 04, 2018, 07:49:51 PM
Yes

As far as I can see

All will die soon in 2018

 :)

I had 1,022 EOS bought at 0,49 USD, sold at 1,93 --> Now it is at > 11 USD

I had 8.500 XRP, bought at 0,24 USD, sold at 0,29 USD --> Now it is at 3,3 USD

I had 7.120 CTR, bought at 0,48 USD, sold at 0,93 USD --> Now it is at > 4 USD

I would have had a fortune if I had held all

So now, I wish all Cryptocurrencies will die soon in 2018

 ???



Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: karasuri on January 04, 2018, 08:36:43 PM
one should take into account how much cryptocurrency is now on the market and then this statement looks logical and correct.

There a lot of altcoins in 2015 as well, but a lot of them has seemed to survive till now. So 95% is a wrong assumption, somewhere near 75% of alts will be gone might be a realistic assumption.

2015, 16 and 17 are not equal. 2018 will be much more difficult for many altcoins. so 95% is a fairly likely percentage. besides, those altcoins about which you speak is about 10% of all. Someone should count real numbers of it for statistic


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Cryptogiji on January 04, 2018, 10:01:52 PM
I do think that there will be a drop off of the alt coins but not 95%.

Let's just sit back and see what happens.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: IPCHAINDATABASE on January 04, 2018, 10:03:43 PM
It's true that many won't survive, but those actually seek to tackle a real world problem and do it out of passion and dedication will rise above the crowd.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Qrivium on January 04, 2018, 10:04:21 PM
Yep a lot wil crash and burn, but till then many will hit ATH 8)


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: ozm0823 on January 04, 2018, 10:08:10 PM
There are many coins out there which is junk but 95% is little bit too high!


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Chosenpai on January 05, 2018, 04:35:07 AM
There are many coins out there which is junk but 95% is little bit too high!

Yeah, many junk coins right now in the market but I think that percentage is very high. In my opinion its more like 70% will be able to survive and the 30% of the coins will be junked.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: marcbitcoins on January 05, 2018, 04:44:01 AM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

https://coinidol.com/upload/resize_cache/iblock/396/900_900_1/3966df5ff7a397a84abce9cd08664c6e.jpg

You're 95% is very impossible and very big speculation in which it is very impossible to happen. Although i believed that many altcoins that existing now should be consider  craps because of very cheap value and slow moving in the market still i believed that they are only few compared to many altcoins now that is fast moving so i say 95% is wrong but maybe only 10% will not survive.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: spooneds1 on January 05, 2018, 05:04:50 AM
I agree in your opinion but 95% is a bit high for a failure. Most ICO that gives you opportunity to earn but in the end it is a scam project,their are also scam airdrops that given to us. Better be careful investing.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Fitrilalala on January 05, 2018, 05:18:39 AM
We can't hold the growth of icos. Since you already know that alot of kickstater icos create for collect fund hit and run. But its not all of them. Some icos has partnership with a big company that will support and using their products and services. So dont worry if the 95% rate of fail its for new icos that create for scam. Not for the real and success ico. Crypto will still success except the world not using technology anymore.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: potraviny on January 05, 2018, 03:56:14 PM
I think some alt coins will not survive as they have very little / no use to society and once the ICO money dries up they won't be able to support the coin. I do disagree that 95% of them will go.

From that statement you are suggesting that if there are 100 only 5 will survive which is not the case. Some will die and they will be replaced by better alt coins.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: grchina on January 05, 2018, 03:59:06 PM
Probably a litle less since now most of those coins are erc 20 tokens(eth clones)and for them to stay up doesnt really need large number of devs,most of the time its crew of 1-3 devs doing the cloning and making new coins every 3-4 months with some % of premine that they sell off and go to next clone project


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: sebastianpenguen on January 05, 2018, 04:00:09 PM
Probably a litle less since now most of those coins are erc 20 tokens(eth clones)and for them to stay up doesnt really need large number of devs,most of the time its crew of 1-3 devs doing the cloning and making new coins every 3-4 months with some % of premine that they sell off and go to next clone project

I disagree with survival fact. There are always buyers and sellers for a specific product in a marketplace. It's not like dying forever if you mean on the topic. Some will perfom greatly, some will perform poorly. That will be the explanation.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: BaeNaNa on January 05, 2018, 04:03:06 PM
I don't think so, there's a lot of shitcoin from 2015 or 2016 that still alive until today so it's not easy for alts to die except the dev pull out an exit scam. The number of emerging ico will be lower than 2017 but they will survive even if they don't deliver the promises as long as there are believer for the project itself, only the value will go down.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: yummy23 on January 05, 2018, 04:19:52 PM
You better be a fortune teller,lol :D
Yeah ;)He should be telling that it will not Survived in the Digital Era


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cryptoux on January 05, 2018, 04:22:26 PM
I dont think so a lot of new innovation is coming in to ICOs,a lot of advance technology will be given to the cryptocurrencies this year.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: cL0uD on January 05, 2018, 04:31:27 PM
I don't think this is the scenario, 2018 is promising to be a year of alts.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: armakarisma on January 05, 2018, 04:31:46 PM
I think the assumption is not entirely true, just look at altcoin growing a lot earlier this year, and many predict will continue to grow and develop according to their roadmap, ripple is one of them. and the value of ethereum continues to increase.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: papuayenigine on January 05, 2018, 05:24:09 PM
I hope that we will see more less trash coins in the future. Unfortunately there are a lot of useless currencies and I think many of them will not survive in 2018.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: btcprospecter on January 05, 2018, 05:33:06 PM
Like op said many look good on paper but practical application of them are not great. We have a situation now where any aptly named shitcoin makes any progress in the markets people flock to buy it in the hope they have got in at the right point and just dump as soon as they have made a profit.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: Chosenpai on January 06, 2018, 02:41:42 AM
These many garbage coins in the market right now is good for traders and investors. Because they can make profit out of it. They can sell and dump the coins when the price is pumped.


Title: Re: 95% of Cryptocurrencies will Not Survive in 2018
Post by: awazieik on January 06, 2018, 02:49:53 AM
The Blockchain ecosystem suffers explosive growth. According to data from Coinmarketcap just for 11 months in 2017 cryptocurrencies market capitalization grew by 1200%. Investors and hedge funds are fixing unbelievable profits, which they can get from crypto assets, and trying to divert their assets into this niche. Investors are waiting for startups, which will repeat the success of projects like Ethereum (+272397% since ICO) or IOTA (+922448% since ICO).

However, the majority of projects will fail — some startups are created just to gather funds and disappear, some would not handle the competition, but most are just ideas that look good on paper, but in reality, are useless for the market.
Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum said:

“There are some good ideas, there are a lot of very bad ideas, and there are a lot of very, very bad ideas, and quite a few scams as well”

As a result, over 95% of successful ICOs and cryptocurrency projects will fail and their investors will lose money. The other 5% of projects will become the new Apple, Google or Alibaba in the cryptoindustry. As these 5% will be the new center of influence, their token demand will create tremendous growth in their valuation brining hundreds of thousands percent of returns on investments made on early stages.

Read the full article: https://coinidol.com/cryptocurrencies-that-will-not-survive-in-2018/

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Yes this is true that there are so many bad ideas but that is what risk is about. As sad as this is, it will be help people educate themselves about their investment and this can only happen if they ever learn.