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Title: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 10:01:23 AM
Hello,


I accidentally made a BCH withdrawal to my BTC adress instead of sending it to my BCH adress. So i won't surprise you i didn't receive it yet.

Is there anything i can do about this? I read something about using a privatekey on your BTC adress to claim your BCH? Is this possible and how can i realise this?

I made the withdrawal from wex.nz to my bitpay account. The support team of wex sent me an email with the link of the transaction on blockchair. I also send an email to bitpay for support however i didn't receive a respons from them yet.

If there already was a topic on this subject i apologize for the inconvience.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Greetings.

Aaron



Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: racquemis on December 04, 2017, 10:07:34 AM
The private key would be to import your BTC address to another wallet....
Can you post the link to the transaction?


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: TheUltraElite on December 04, 2017, 10:10:11 AM
I accidentally made a BCH withdrawal to my BTC adress instead of sending it to my BCH adress. So i won't surprise you i didn't receive it yet.
Well several newbies recently have been making this mistake and sending BCH to a BTC wallet. Your coins will be lost forever if you do so. Since both of them are different currencies and they are not same you cannot "mix" the two.

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Is there anything i can do about this? I read something about using a privatekey on your BTC adress to claim your BCH? Is this possible and how can i realise this?

I made the withdrawal from wex.nz to my bitpay account. The support team of wex sent me an email with the link of the transaction on blockchair. I also send an email to bitpay for support however i didn't receive a respons from them yet.
You should contact support on wex.nz and bitpay explaining your situations to both. It depends on the website to take care of the issue. You cannot do anything about it. Let this be the first and the last lesson for you. Never send BCH to BTC wallet or vice versa, Never send OMNI tokens to Ethereum wallet and so on.



Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: onnz423 on December 04, 2017, 10:11:23 AM
BCH and BTC are on seperate chains, so you'll need to manage to get your hands on the private key of the address that you sent the funds into.
Everything you can do is to wait answer from Bitpay team, and if they tell you that they cannot help you, then your BCH is long gone.
Best of luck, keep us updated about our situation.



Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: UltraMegaSick on December 04, 2017, 10:12:39 AM
Hello,


I accidentally made a BCH withdrawal to my BTC adress instead of sending it to my BCH adress. So i won't surprise you i didn't receive it yet.

Is there anything i can do about this? I read something about using a privatekey on your BTC adress to claim your BCH? Is this possible and how can i realise this?

I made the withdrawal from wex.nz to my bitpay account. The support team of wex sent me an email with the link of the transaction on blockchair. I also send an email to bitpay for support however i didn't receive a respons from them yet.

If there already was a topic on this subject i apologize for the inconvience.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Greetings.

Aaron



Get in touch with Bitpay and see if they can help you out with this matter, I think there's nothing to do about , but who knows.


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 10:16:42 AM
The private key would be to import your BTC address to another wallet....
Can you post the link to the transaction?
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/244956547


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 10:24:04 AM
I accidentally made a BCH withdrawal to my BTC adress instead of sending it to my BCH adress. So i won't surprise you i didn't receive it yet.
Well several newbies recently have been making this mistake and sending BCH to a BTC wallet. Your coins will be lost forever if you do so. Since both of them are different currencies and they are not same you cannot "mix" the two.

Quote
Is there anything i can do about this? I read something about using a privatekey on your BTC adress to claim your BCH? Is this possible and how can i realise this?

I made the withdrawal from wex.nz to my bitpay account. The support team of wex sent me an email with the link of the transaction on blockchair. I also send an email to bitpay for support however i didn't receive a respons from them yet.
You should contact support on wex.nz and bitpay explaining your situations to both. It depends on the website to take care of the issue. You cannot do anything about it. Let this be the first and the last lesson for you. Never send BCH to BTC wallet or vice versa, Never send OMNI tokens to Ethereum wallet and so on.


No i won't be making this mistake twice, thanks for your reply


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 10:33:18 AM
BCH and BTC are on seperate chains, so you'll need to manage to get your hands on the private key of the address that you sent the funds into.
Everything you can do is to wait answer from Bitpay team, and if they tell you that they cannot help you, then your BCH is long gone.
Best of luck, keep us updated about our situation.



How can i get this private key and how do i use it for this issue?

Still waiting for bitpay to reply..

thanks


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 12:19:10 PM
Can i do the same that is recommended on this topic?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2499472.0


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: hieu81 on December 04, 2017, 12:37:09 PM
Hello,


I accidentally made a BCH withdrawal to my BTC adress instead of sending it to my BCH adress. So i won't surprise you i didn't receive it yet.

Is there anything i can do about this? I read something about using a privatekey on your BTC adress to claim your BCH? Is this possible and how can i realise this?

I made the withdrawal from wex.nz to my bitpay account. The support team of wex sent me an email with the link of the transaction on blockchair. I also send an email to bitpay for support however i didn't receive a respons from them yet.

If there already was a topic on this subject i apologize for the inconvience.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Greetings.

Aaron


Only way! You contact to person hold BTC wallet you sent BCH to it! And request they help you! But i think is unable and can not do it at this times


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: Aura on December 04, 2017, 12:40:38 PM
If you did the transaction to a non segwit address then you can export the private of that particular BTC address and import it into a BCH client. I did a search for you on Google, this guide tells you how to export your private keys from you wallet: https://github.com/bitpay/copay/issues/5859#issuecomment-294537858. 


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: onnz423 on December 04, 2017, 12:46:29 PM

How can i get this private key and how do i use it for this issue?

Still waiting for bitpay to reply..

thanks

I should have mentioned that the one who owns the bitcoin wallet, owns the private key. So if you sent to bitpay, only they can access the funds on the private key.
Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash use the  same private keys, so you can still spend the funds and they are not lost. Bitpay support is fairly quickly in my opinion, so you should not have much of a problem with that.


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 12:56:36 PM

How can i get this private key and how do i use it for this issue?

Still waiting for bitpay to reply..

thanks

I should have mentioned that the one who owns the bitcoin wallet, owns the private key. So if you sent to bitpay, only they can access the funds on the private key.
Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash use the  same private keys, so you can still spend the funds and they are not lost. Bitpay support is fairly quickly in my opinion, so you should not have much of a problem with that.

Thanks, i will wait for bitpay to respons and hope that they are helpfull... fingers crossed


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: Thirdspace on December 04, 2017, 01:05:03 PM
so my guess is 1LfqTBBFP the BTC address on topic here.
I'm not quite familiar with bitpay but I read that bitpay wallet user owns the key
if you have its privkey meaning you are in control of the address
you can simply use the same privkey and import into your BCH wallet
you need to ask bitpay how to extract a privkey of your specific address


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: onnz423 on December 04, 2017, 01:12:32 PM
so my guess is 1LfqTBBFP the BTC address on topic here.
I'm not quite familiar with bitpay but I read that bitpay wallet user owns the key
if you have its privkey meaning you are in control of the address
you can simply use the same privkey and import into your BCH wallet
you need to ask bitpay how to extract a privkey of your specific address

Oh wait. Good point. Im not sure if OP meant paid invoice or sending into the mobile wallet.
I think that he should address this, before we proceed with the thread.
If it's a bitpay invoice, only bitpay can access the funds but if he was talking about mobile wallet, then that would be alot of different.


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 01:17:37 PM
so my guess is 1LfqTBBFP the BTC address on topic here.
I'm not quite familiar with bitpay but I read that bitpay wallet user owns the key
if you have its privkey meaning you are in control of the address
you can simply use the same privkey and import into your BCH wallet
you need to ask bitpay how to extract a privkey of your specific address

Oh wait. Good point. Im not sure if OP meant paid invoice or sending into the mobile wallet.
I think that he should address this, before we proceed with the thread.
If it's a bitpay invoice, only bitpay can access the funds but if he was talking about mobile wallet, then that would be alot of different.

It was not an invoice from bitpay. I just needed some BCH on my Bitpay wallet to pay for something else.



Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 01:23:45 PM
so my guess is 1LfqTBBFP the BTC address on topic here.
I'm not quite familiar with bitpay but I read that bitpay wallet user owns the key
if you have its privkey meaning you are in control of the address
you can simply use the same privkey and import into your BCH wallet
you need to ask bitpay how to extract a privkey of your specific address

Your quess is right, So i need Bitpay to reply badly.. When they do i will asked them what you said.

I'll keep you all updated on what they sais and if they can and will help me.

Thanks a lot everybody


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 01:31:28 PM
If you did the transaction to a non segwit address then you can export the private of that particular BTC address and import it into a BCH client. I did a search for you on Google, this guide tells you how to export your private keys from you wallet: https://github.com/bitpay/copay/issues/5859#issuecomment-294537858. 

Thanks will look in to that


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: onnz423 on December 04, 2017, 01:49:52 PM
Well OP, i guess it is your lucky day.

WARNING! THE NEXT PROCEDURE WILL REVEAL YOUR PRIVATE KEY ON YOUR DEVICE SO BE SURE NOT TO HAVE MALWARE. I suggest creating a new bitpay wallet straight after recovering the BCH.
On bitpay mobile wallet app, go to settings -> personal wallet -> more options -> export wallet -> put a password there -> copy to clipboard.
After getting a very long string, use SJCL demo (https://bitwiseshiftleft.github.io/sjcl/demo/) to decrypt it. Put the password that you used on bitpay to the password field, then paste the long strange to the "Ciphertext" field.
It should give something like this under the "Plaintext" field:

Code:
{"coin":"btc","network":"livenet","xPrivKey":"xprv9s21ZrQH143K3PkFJNTnjrLPUMxfHbMLErmnea2xoTPU26KEdZHsu9cpVqqcui641Hjq4sQ7oycxh7UWSRALWDmSZsjXCJmgqJDUsGFiqWj","xPubKey":"xpub6DCEXCnvf13iV13dN6on3LPdQHqgk2JivfiGuhZvKpnMWfRPafMHaKBev5pVuhssR7fPBSevuZRML4U9b1mEacyPiJ8zhAKDxuwBoqwoQYt","requestPrivKey":"c326899ec07a6188f01c5bf6e252a7b7deb7876efcfbdc9a0c96997f778d7656","requestPubKey":"0310ede905976ea0a43c174dbe9ea320e6b851fb5fb0818ea82b4196d710c82f6e","copayerId":"217530644c7e059112a3979cc9c290d15ccc4c41fa745331e599819f82e87fdd","publicKeyRing":[{"xPubKey":"xpub6DCEXCnvf13iV13dN6on3LPdQHqgk2JivfiGuhZvKpnMWfRPafMHaKBev5pVuhssR7fPBSevuZRML4U9b1mEacyPiJ8zhAKDxuwBoqwoQYt","requestPubKey":"0310ede905976ea0a43c174dbe9ea320e6b851fb5fb0818ea82b4196d710c82f6e"}],"walletId":"0e35a5ca-fba1-4b21-b786-c8d8df444861","walletName":"Personal Wallet","m":1,"n":1,"walletPrivKey":"3a3eb46e3ffd138a5f30622f8dde9386af459002e77e27457e2cdec0a63315ce","personalEncryptingKey":"EeK/KwqfPBy8DtO63CYhjw==","sharedEncryptingKey":"O/BSl9i+98dKT2kUb2DEwA==","copayerName":"me","mnemonic":"view hope impose control wood bamboo scrub seed catalog tooth canyon zero","entropySource":"8affc9a9cab00b6c947dc9255cb2756d233bc2667f74da006aff8152c4042100","mnemonicHasPassphrase":false,"derivationStrategy":"BIP44","account":0,"compliantDerivation":true,"addressType":"P2PKH","addressBook":[]}

as you can see there is "xPrivKey" field at the beginning of the plaintext, copy paste that and download Electron cash (https://electroncash.org). Then open it, press create new wallet -> standard wallet -> use public or private keys -> and paste the xPrivKey there which in my case would be:

Code:
xprv9s21ZrQH143K3PkFJNTnjrLPUMxfHbMLErmnea2xoTPU26KEdZHsu9cpVqqcui641Hjq4sQ7oycxh7UWSRALWDmSZsjXCJmgqJDUsGFiqWj

then just press next, and your BCH should be spendable right away.

Let me know if you have any more extra questions (it is a pretty technical guide), i did write this guide just for you so i hope it is helpful :)


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 02:07:13 PM
Well OP, i guess it is your lucky day.

WARNING! THE NEXT PROCEDURE WILL REVEAL YOUR PRIVATE KEY ON YOUR DEVICE SO BE SURE NOT TO HAVE MALWARE. I suggest creating a new bitpay wallet straight after recovering the BCH.
On bitpay mobile wallet app, go to settings -> personal wallet -> more options -> export wallet -> put a password there -> copy to clipboard.
After getting a very long string, use SJCL demo (https://bitwiseshiftleft.github.io/sjcl/demo/) to decrypt it. Put the password that you used on bitpay to the password field, then paste the long strange to the "Ciphertext" field.
It should give something like this under the "Plaintext" field:

Code:
{"coin":"btc","network":"livenet","xPrivKey":"xprv9s21ZrQH143K3PkFJNTnjrLPUMxfHbMLErmnea2xoTPU26KEdZHsu9cpVqqcui641Hjq4sQ7oycxh7UWSRALWDmSZsjXCJmgqJDUsGFiqWj","xPubKey":"xpub6DCEXCnvf13iV13dN6on3LPdQHqgk2JivfiGuhZvKpnMWfRPafMHaKBev5pVuhssR7fPBSevuZRML4U9b1mEacyPiJ8zhAKDxuwBoqwoQYt","requestPrivKey":"c326899ec07a6188f01c5bf6e252a7b7deb7876efcfbdc9a0c96997f778d7656","requestPubKey":"0310ede905976ea0a43c174dbe9ea320e6b851fb5fb0818ea82b4196d710c82f6e","copayerId":"217530644c7e059112a3979cc9c290d15ccc4c41fa745331e599819f82e87fdd","publicKeyRing":[{"xPubKey":"xpub6DCEXCnvf13iV13dN6on3LPdQHqgk2JivfiGuhZvKpnMWfRPafMHaKBev5pVuhssR7fPBSevuZRML4U9b1mEacyPiJ8zhAKDxuwBoqwoQYt","requestPubKey":"0310ede905976ea0a43c174dbe9ea320e6b851fb5fb0818ea82b4196d710c82f6e"}],"walletId":"0e35a5ca-fba1-4b21-b786-c8d8df444861","walletName":"Personal Wallet","m":1,"n":1,"walletPrivKey":"3a3eb46e3ffd138a5f30622f8dde9386af459002e77e27457e2cdec0a63315ce","personalEncryptingKey":"EeK/KwqfPBy8DtO63CYhjw==","sharedEncryptingKey":"O/BSl9i+98dKT2kUb2DEwA==","copayerName":"me","mnemonic":"view hope impose control wood bamboo scrub seed catalog tooth canyon zero","entropySource":"8affc9a9cab00b6c947dc9255cb2756d233bc2667f74da006aff8152c4042100","mnemonicHasPassphrase":false,"derivationStrategy":"BIP44","account":0,"compliantDerivation":true,"addressType":"P2PKH","addressBook":[]}

as you can see there is "xPrivKey" field at the beginning of the plaintext, copy paste that and download Electron cash (https://electroncash.org). Then open it, press create new wallet -> standard wallet -> use public or private keys -> and paste the xPrivKey there which in my case would be:

Code:
xprv9s21ZrQH143K3PkFJNTnjrLPUMxfHbMLErmnea2xoTPU26KEdZHsu9cpVqqcui641Hjq4sQ7oycxh7UWSRALWDmSZsjXCJmgqJDUsGFiqWj

then just press next, and your BCH should be spendable right away.

Let me know if you have any more extra questions (it is a pretty technical guide), i did write this guide just for you so i hope it is helpful :)

Thanks a lot for the quide, much appreciated  i will look in to it when i am @ home and not @ work.

I will let you know if it's succesful or when i have additional questions :)


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: Marvell1 on December 04, 2017, 02:22:06 PM
First of all you should move your BTC out from that address. After that you need just to export its private key and import it to any official BCH wallet! Please, do not miss the first step not to lose your BTC ;)


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 02:29:43 PM
First of all you should move your BTC out from that address. After that you need just to export its private key and import it to any official BCH wallet! Please, do not miss the first step not to lose your BTC ;)

Thanks a lot, i will definitely keep that in mind, don't wanne lose anymore money of course :)


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: Mr.Smithers on December 04, 2017, 02:30:26 PM
I accidentally made a BCH withdrawal to my BTC adress instead of sending it to my BCH adress. So i won't surprise you i didn't receive it yet.
Well several newbies recently have been making this mistake and sending BCH to a BTC wallet. Your coins will be lost forever if you do so. Since both of them are different currencies and they are not same you cannot "mix" the two.

Quote
Is there anything i can do about this? I read something about using a privatekey on your BTC adress to claim your BCH? Is this possible and how can i realise this?

I made the withdrawal from wex.nz to my bitpay account. The support team of wex sent me an email with the link of the transaction on blockchair. I also send an email to bitpay for support however i didn't receive a respons from them yet.
You should contact support on wex.nz and bitpay explaining your situations to both. It depends on the website to take care of the issue. You cannot do anything about it. Let this be the first and the last lesson for you. Never send BCH to BTC wallet or vice versa, Never send OMNI tokens to Ethereum wallet and so on.



Chances are that it can be claimed back. Do as TheUltraElite advised you. If you were in a control of the private keys (a wallet on your computer, a full node ideally) your chances would be higher, but still I would try to contact them.

Whatever happens, and especially with TheUltraElite's comment on "several newbies" in the wider context, maybe it will console you to some extent to hear that the BCH team is (as I write this) working on the hard fork that will change their address format to make the mistake like yours impossible in the future...


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 04, 2017, 02:50:41 PM
I accidentally made a BCH withdrawal to my BTC adress instead of sending it to my BCH adress. So i won't surprise you i didn't receive it yet.
Well several newbies recently have been making this mistake and sending BCH to a BTC wallet. Your coins will be lost forever if you do so. Since both of them are different currencies and they are not same you cannot "mix" the two.

Quote
Is there anything i can do about this? I read something about using a privatekey on your BTC adress to claim your BCH? Is this possible and how can i realise this?

I made the withdrawal from wex.nz to my bitpay account. The support team of wex sent me an email with the link of the transaction on blockchair. I also send an email to bitpay for support however i didn't receive a respons from them yet.
You should contact support on wex.nz and bitpay explaining your situations to both. It depends on the website to take care of the issue. You cannot do anything about it. Let this be the first and the last lesson for you. Never send BCH to BTC wallet or vice versa, Never send OMNI tokens to Ethereum wallet and so on.



Chances are that it can be claimed back. Do as TheUltraElite advised you. If you were in a control of the private keys (a wallet on your computer, a full node ideally) your chances would be higher, but still I would try to contact them.

Whatever happens, and especially with TheUltraElite's comment on "several newbies" in the wider context, maybe it will console you to some extent to hear that the BCH team is (as I write this) working on the hard fork that will change their address format to make the mistake like yours impossible in the future...

Thanks! i have already contact WEX en Bitpay and explained the situation. Wex was kind enough to respons with a link of the transaction on blockchair but they did not provided me with a direct solution of getting it back (maybe because this is out of their hands) Still waiting for Bitpay to respons.

Keep y'all posted.

I think that is a good idea from the BCH team, could save people a lot of trouble and money when they accidentally do the same as me.


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 07, 2017, 08:14:47 AM
I got my BCH back!!!!

Thanks for all the tips and tricks, that was very helpfull :)



Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: Satish147 on December 07, 2017, 08:20:36 AM
When you made request to wrong blockchain address mostly it can't be recovered at all.

However you said you made withdrawl by using third party service. They can handle the situations like this easily but you might have lost if you made this transaction with your hardware wallets.


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: aafreybtc on December 07, 2017, 08:41:16 AM
When you made request to wrong blockchain address mostly it can't be recovered at all.

However you said you made withdrawl by using third party service. They can handle the situations like this easily but you might have lost if you made this transaction with your hardware wallets.

I already got my BCH back :)

Thanks for your reaction anyway


Title: Re: BCH withdrawal to BTC adress
Post by: Tone147 on December 07, 2017, 09:39:47 AM
You import BCH into BTC's address, can't you copy it through the private key, and propose BCH? I remember someone doing this before.