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Title: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: ijphlrnxewho on July 12, 2013, 01:26:02 AM Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids in school oral sex at age 5 to 8 years old.
Documents provided prove all over America. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gij9Vf_Fxcs Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: OverallGreatGuy on July 18, 2013, 03:44:06 AM Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids in school oral sex at age 5 to 8 years old. Documents provided prove all over America. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gij9Vf_Fxcs&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg Yeah yeah.. We know.. They're controlling the weather too right? Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: jnagyjr on July 18, 2013, 01:44:42 PM Well considering the age range of girls in the Girl Scouts of the USA (I know, not a school organization, but bear with me for a moment) and their pro-promiscuity and pro-abortion literature they put into the hands of these impressionable girls, it isn't a far cry to what the OP is claiming (I didn't bother with the youtube video as the OP apparently doesn't have the first clue in proper grammar, if s/he made the video it's probably even worse).
Also consider that Planned Parenthood has managed, in the north-eastern U.S. to get schools to allow it to provide talks and distribute materials (http://www.massnews.com/past_issues/2000/4_April/apfist~1.htm#1) teaching kids about oral sex and fisting. Oh yeah, parents didn't know about it until after the fact. So yeah, the OP probably isn't that far off base, given the true existence of the Council on Foreign Relations (and the fact the U.S. government has thanked them publicly for 'telling us what to think') and the Trilateral Commission and their level of influence worldwide. Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: OverallGreatGuy on July 19, 2013, 03:42:17 AM Well considering the age range of girls in the Girl Scouts of the USA (I know, not a school organization, but bear with me for a moment) and their pro-promiscuity and pro-abortion literature they put into the hands of these impressionable girls, it isn't a far cry to what the OP is claiming (I didn't bother with the youtube video as the OP apparently doesn't have the first clue in proper grammar, if s/he made the video it's probably even worse). Also consider that Planned Parenthood has managed, in the north-eastern U.S. to get schools to allow it to provide talks and distribute materials (http://www.massnews.com/past_issues/2000/4_April/apfist~1.htm#1) teaching kids about oral sex and fisting. Oh yeah, parents didn't know about it until after the fact. So yeah, the OP probably isn't that far off base, given the true existence of the Council on Foreign Relations (and the fact the U.S. government has thanked them publicly for 'telling us what to think') and the Trilateral Commission and their level of influence worldwide. I get that there is probably plenty of stuff being taught to young kids that many would consider wildly inappropriate, and for good reason. A lot of which is being promoted by groups like Planned Parenthood and others. I don't see a connection between the CFR or Bilderburg to Girl Scout or elementary school curriculum though... that's a pretty big stretch. The majority of what's taught in both of those forums is handled locally. It's a bit ridiculous to think that the people in the CFR or Bilderburg have the scope, time, or even desire to influence people to that degree. An even bigger stretch is trying to put some sinister devil worshiping Illuminati motive behind it all. That's a bit over the top... I assume you're talking about the Hillary Clinton speech at the CFR when she said something along those lines. I found it pretty telling as well. The CFR is composed of some very influential people that probably hold much more sway over federal government policy, and business collusion than anyone would like. That said, I have serious doubts that what is being taught in some outlier elementry schools, or girlscout meetings is very high on their priority lists... And you did good to ignore his video. His link goes to an Adam Kokesh video that has absolutely nothing to do with what he was posting about. Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: jnagyjr on July 24, 2013, 04:03:56 AM I used to be of a mind that the Bilderburgs, CFR, or TLC (none of which I thought actually existed, I thought they were the fictional organizations from a conspiracy theorist's rantings) had no interest in such affairs, but why do you think even at the local level things seem to head in whatever direction they wish? They may not take direct action but they sure do set the stage for it.
Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: Rassah on July 24, 2013, 06:18:53 AM Better to teach how to do it properly, before the kids start biting and shoving fists into places and causing lacerations and tears.
Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: jnagyjr on July 24, 2013, 01:21:16 PM Better to teach how to do it properly, before the kids start biting and shoving fists into places and causing lacerations and tears. Better to teach them abstinence and model monogamy instead. Such perverse sexual practices have no place being taught in schools to children. Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: Rassah on July 24, 2013, 02:18:51 PM Better to teach how to do it properly, before the kids start biting and shoving fists into places and causing lacerations and tears. Better to teach them abstinence and model monogamy instead. Such perverse sexual practices have no place being taught in schools to children. Except that "teaching" abstinence literally consists of just, "Kids, don't have sex. End of lesson," and turns out that it doesn't even work. Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: Vandroiy on July 24, 2013, 09:33:10 PM Okay, something tells me it's forbidden to ask this question because magic brainwash, but: why should we prevent children from having knowledge about sex?
The advantage of civilization is that we can teach our children not to behave like uncivilized animals and save them from learning everything the hard way. Explicitly not teaching them something seems absurd to me. I can't remember when I was not aware of sex as a concept. It would have been an absurd idea to have unprotected sex while I was underage, since I was obviously not old enough to raise children or whatnot. Save wording I would have given this exact reasoning on the topic back then. It's not a very difficult conclusion. When I hear about weirdness like pregnant schoolgirls, it's often in the context of religious schools or American culture (or lack of civilization, but that's self-explanatory). Could it be that people are making things worse with this anti-sex-knowledge stance? I could imagine that it's hard to discuss the topic when necessary if the child is not supposed to know about it, let alone mention it. Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: niko on July 24, 2013, 09:50:49 PM Better to teach how to do it properly, before the kids start biting and shoving fists into places and causing lacerations and tears. Better to teach them abstinence and model monogamy instead. Such perverse sexual practices have no place being taught in schools to children. Between your "abstinence" and the underlying ideology, and sex education, I gladly choose the latter, thank you. I grew up in a country where sex education was taught in elementary school, and where - at the time - I was perfectly free to buy porn magazines in press kiosks as a teenager, and where public TV used to broadcast artistic movies with sometime strong sexual content. Most of my peers and I grew up perfectly happy, responsible individuals. I then moved to the U.S., and was shocked with all the sex-fear, extremes on both ends of the dispute, and even the existence of this whole dispute. Sure enough, I discovered that many sex-oppressed kids in the U.S. grew into immature, sex-obsessed, confused, disoriented teenagers. Same with alcohol. Same with drugs. A friendly, but futile advice to my American friends: relax. It's okay. Teach yourselves and your kids about life, world, sex, love, personal responsibility, and freedom. Enjoy life, sex included. Be reasonable. Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: jnagyjr on July 24, 2013, 11:39:35 PM Who said anything about not teaching them about sex? Abstinence education is more than "just don't have sex." If that is all you are teaching, then its no wonder it's failed. On the flip side of that, though, fisting has no place and is the real perversion. I'm not sure how anyone sees monogamy as being perverse, but whatever. Continue to drink the kool-aid and all will be well.
Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: Rassah on July 25, 2013, 02:21:51 AM What's the difference between abstinence education and regular sex Ed, if, as you suggest, they both teach how the reproductive system works, and how to have safe sex with contraceptives? And, honestly, what's wrong with fisting?
Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: OverallGreatGuy on July 25, 2013, 05:05:17 AM I think parents should be free to teach their children whatever they think is best at whatever age they think is best. There is never going to be a consensus about issues like this among everyone. The problem comes when we have a one-size-fits-all public school system where regardless of when or if they decide to teach kids about sex, someone is not going to be happy about it. If education was completely privatized, parents would have a choice to send their kid to whatever school most aligns with their desired curriculum.
Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: BitcoinBarrel on July 25, 2013, 05:52:28 AM Why don't they let the parents teach the children or wait till high school at least?
Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: Rassah on July 25, 2013, 03:45:55 PM I don't understand what is wrong with teaching kids, or anyone else for that matter, about anything. If you are just giving them facts, what's the harm?
Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: jnagyjr on July 25, 2013, 05:21:08 PM The difference between abstinence education and "regular" sex ed should be that in abstinence education the CHILDREN are encouraged to wait until marriage. Teaching how the reproductive system works, though, could and should wait until a biology class or the parents teach the children.
There's nothing wrong with fisting if you think your fist was designed to fit into whatever orifice you are trying to shove it. However, since human sexual organs were made to compliment each other (and not random objects and body parts) there is quite a bit wrong with it. If parents want to teach their kids anything at all, that is up to the parents. The government has no business teaching kids these things, especially without the consent of the parents. If you as a parent want to teach your kids to be perverts, that's your business. Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: Rassah on July 25, 2013, 05:39:18 PM The difference between abstinence education and "regular" sex ed should be that in abstinence education the CHILDREN are encouraged to wait until marriage. Teaching how the reproductive system works, though, could and should wait until a biology class or the parents teach the children. But, thanks to the over a decade of trials, we now know this doesn't work, and only leads to more teen pregnancies :p Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: jnagyjr on July 25, 2013, 06:22:23 PM Cite your sources.
Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: Rassah on July 26, 2013, 02:15:11 AM Cite your sources. Claims, findings, and sources. http://advocatesforyouth.org/publications/409 Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: hawkeye on July 26, 2013, 02:47:00 AM The difference between abstinence education and "regular" sex ed should be that in abstinence education the CHILDREN are encouraged to wait until marriage. Do people still do that? Wait until marriage? I thought that went out last century. Maybe we should bring back chastity belts and such. There's nothing wrong with fisting if you think your fist was designed to fit into whatever orifice you are trying to shove it. However, since human sexual organs were made to compliment each other (and not random objects and body parts) there is quite a bit wrong with it. Not the "X wasn't supposed to do that and so therefore it's wrong" argument. ::) I suppose you think there's something wrong with homosexuality too? Do you own a bible? Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: foggyb on July 26, 2013, 03:30:41 AM Cite your sources. Claims, findings, and sources. http://advocatesforyouth.org/publications/409 Whatever. I know from personal experience that abstinence education with minimal sex education (at school) does work with a high rate of success. If the parents aren't on board, any school education program you can care to name will have a lower success rate. The other problem is that the idea of abstinence is a Christian ideal. If you don't teach the core values of Christianity alongside abstinence, well of course the abstinence education isn't going to work. It makes no sense to teach abstinence alongside moral relativism. Kent Hovind once said he would be happy to debate whether or not sex education should be taught in public schools. "But you're asking the wrong question, the real question is, 'should we have public schools'". Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: Rassah on July 26, 2013, 03:55:20 AM Claims, findings, and sources. http://advocatesforyouth.org/publications/409 Whatever. Thank you for taking as much time to look at and consider the information I provided, as it took me to Google for it ;D [quote author=foggyb link=topic=254668.msg2806047#msg2806047 date=1374809441 I know from personal experience that abstinence education with minimal sex education (at school) does work with a high rate of success. If the parents aren't on board, any school education program you can care to name will have a lower success rate. The other problem is that the idea of abstinence is a Christian ideal. If you don't teach the core values of Christianity alongside abstinence, well of course the abstinence education isn't going to work. It makes no sense to teach abstinence alongside moral relativism. [/quote] Personal experience, huh. You actually went to a whole bunch of schools, asked the kids to have sex with you, and was told "no?" I can't imagine what kind of personal experience you might be talking about. Those sources I provided show some incredible amount of irony BTW. Statistics across the entire country show that places typically associated with good Christian values (such as southern states) that teach abstinence, have WAY higher instances of underage sex, unprotected sex, and teenage pregnancies, than the godless states that teach comprehensive sex education. Even in cases where abstinence states have stay-at-home soccer moms, and sex-ed states have working mom's. Care to offer an opinion as to why that may be? Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: foggyb on July 27, 2013, 07:08:39 PM Maybe you should get out more, Rassah. The bible belt of the USA is not the only place on planet earth where Christians teach abstinence to their kids.
Of course I will trust personal experience over a study that google found for you. As would any reasonable person. If a study shows that one group is getting good results, and the other group isn't, the group that isn't should be examined for anomalies and the strategies, objectives and outcomes compared. This way, we could clearly see where the FAILURE GROUP IS GOING WRONG. That would be scientific, and produce useful data. To automatically assume that one data point proves everything, is not scientific, its just pushing an agenda. Again, moral relativism and Christianity don't mix. Take these kids out of public schools where they teach them that life is meaningless, and your data point will be turned on its ass. With Christianity, abstinence has a reason besides the prevention of rashes and single mothers. Christ teaches "Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind" That is a fitting indictment of the state of free public education in the West. The joke is on you by showing that lax morals degrades good character and sound reasoning. You wish your reasoning to be taken seriously, then you joke about sex with kids? Fail. Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: jnagyjr on July 27, 2013, 11:58:45 PM The difference between abstinence education and "regular" sex ed should be that in abstinence education the CHILDREN are encouraged to wait until marriage. Do people still do that? Wait until marriage? I thought that went out last century. Maybe we should bring back chastity belts and such. I guess we should throw out monogamy and sterilize everyone (therefore ending the abortion debate, too), huh? Just because you don't like abstinence or think waiting to have sex until marriage is old fashioned doesn't mean they are. There's nothing wrong with fisting if you think your fist was designed to fit into whatever orifice you are trying to shove it. However, since human sexual organs were made to compliment each other (and not random objects and body parts) there is quite a bit wrong with it. Not the "X wasn't supposed to do that and so therefore it's wrong" argument. ::) I suppose you think there's something wrong with homosexuality too? Do you own a bible? Well, it's a valid argument. The penis was meant to penetrate the vagina for both pleasure and reproduction in the manner in which it was created. Well yes, there is. Aside from the moral turpitude it demonstrates, forcing the penis into the anus sets up both people for health concerns. Any harmful bacteria that may be fomenting in the anus before or after excretion gets attached to the penis and passed on to the next partner and the individual whose penis is involved, it can cause a dangerous tearing of the lining of the anus (which is only cells-thick) which would allow the introduction of those bacteria into the bloodstream of the person whose anus is being penetrated. What about it is 'good' or even 'decent'? Is it moral to possibly infect a future partner with some disease just for a moment of pleasure? I think not. I own several, as a matter of fact. Have you even paid attention, though, to my sidebar info or my sig? I imagine not given the question (whether or not rhetorical). Title: Re: Devil worshipers cult Illuminati (Bilderberg Group) teaching little kids sex Post by: Charm Quark on July 28, 2013, 12:08:26 AM . The penis was meant to penetrate the vagina for both pleasure and reproduction in the manner in which it was created. 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