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so i started buying cryptos 2-3 months ago, so far i've outperformed the market. but not by much.
With so many coins hitting new ATH, i am struggling to find value and i am scared to jump in.

What are some coins that haven't mooned in the last week or so?

i'm looking to put 1000usd down on one coin with good support levels

- currently looking at DNT and SONM - price is relatively stable, under ICO price (i believe? not too sure)

What are your thoughts? What other coins fit the criteria? (oversold/undervalued/etc...)

DNT , DIVI !

One of the few who took a hit instead a raise in last few days is Electroneum, so it could be pumped.
Another great coin who will be listed in exchange /price raise/ on 20th is HEROcoin.

Privacy coins are a no-brainer for those looking to still catch the crypto train.  John McAfee agrees: https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/941003398215761922

I have my money on Spectrecoin (XSPEC).  It is a (as yet) little known coin with robust privacy and anonymity technology, several exciting groundbreaking features (current & upcoming), a tiny market cap, fewer than 21 million currently in circulation - and it is still available for under $1 per coin (for now).  It did experience a rather dramatic surge today, but it is still well under $1, and as far as I am concerned, XSPEC at any price under $1 is a steal.  As the roadmap gets implemented and word gets out, this coin is likely to move up through the ranks very quickly, with a strong prospect of reaching $5-10, or even $20, sometime next year.

You can find out more about this hidden gem here: http://coinwiki.info/en/SpectreCoin
Join our vibrant and growing community on slack: http://slack.spectreproject.io/

ZURCOIN: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zurcoin/#charts AND https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=391806.0

•   The best example of POW around is Bitcoin; perhaps the best example of POS is Peercoin. Both are the first-of-their-kind assets. In the past 3-year period, bitcoin has risen around 2100% while Peercoin is up about 170% by comparison. Clearly, by making increases in supply so readily available so easily to holders of the coin, POS Blockchains ultimately undermine the value exponent of the utility factor in the coin.
•   ZURCOIN is a POW coin that has laid dormant for 4 years; after it was purchased in August over a period of around a week by a single purchaser with approximately $250,000 in funds, and by other buyers following suit, the coin came to be actively-traded and showed regular trading volumes
•   Despite the relative value erosion that wallet mining can cost a coin, there are certain advantages to it. POS mining is more efficient and it is also cleaner and easier for the user than POW mining since it takes place while the coin is stored inside a Blockchain wallet.
•   By converting ZURCOIN’s Blockchain into a combined POW/POS Blockchain the coin will achieve scale dominance at the same time as retaining its value during the second act of the coin’s growth trajectory, which is set to be very large.
•   The effect of a higher probability of use cases for ZURCOIN will make it more attractive to ICOs looking for funding as well as to miners who are seeking to profit from higher prices as a result of the coin’s more widespread use
•   Zucoin.org (under dev) will actively solicit and encourage ICOs to accept ZURCOIN as payment for the tokens. This will result in a positive feedback loop whereby a higher number of POS wallet miners will do so so that they can switch the currency at any of the gateways that offer ZUR-ZUS conversions (M0N3X will be the first of such gateways to offer this service, initially on a 1-for-1 basis for around 3% fees always received in ZURCOIN on the transaction regardless of the two is being bought or sold)
•   Despite the huge rise in the price of Bitcoin, there are signs that it may become less appealing to investors as an asset to be held in any quantity largely because of the deflationary tendency of the coin. As Bitcoin begins to deflate in increase of supply, so its price begins to rise at an exorbitant rate. The problem with this is that it has the net effect of exporting inflation onto the rest of the Cryptocurrency landscape. This is because while a high Bitcoin price is attractive for those holding presently who wish to sell, it is significantly more expensive to buy in any whole (or even for some, standard fractional) quantity. Multi-fractional purchases are not appealing psychologically to buyers either. Thus, we believe that ZURCOINS POW-POS fungible Blockchain may be the answer to the polar opposite, but equally problematic isses that Bitcoin and Peercoin suffer from.
•   In the case of ZURCOIN, following the trajectory of both Bitcoin and Peercoin would have resulted in a 1200% price rise over the last 3 years; these are standard high returns looked for by Crypto investors. Therefore we see this fungible dual-currency scenario as being a potential solution to overly-aggressive value return and overly-aggressive value erosion see in POW-POS assets.
•   If ZURCOIN was to rise by the the same amount next year as for the last 6 months, we would be looking at a $400 price per ZUR.
•   As with many vintage Cryptos, much of the supply is buried in long-forgotten wallets, producing an artificially lower supply quota than that advertised on Coin Market Cap. This will push the price tremendously now buyers have come to seek out the coin.

The main reason I'm interested in cryptocurrency is the ability to conduct transactions anonymously and to hide one's wealth from those who would rob you (whether that be the government or individuals). For those HODLing coins that are especially well suited to maintaining the user's anonymity, a global full-fledged government crackdown is going to be good for them; they'll end up with the most valuable coins as other coins become too dangerous to use. (Mind you, BTC/etc. could still be in use in such a scenario, it'll just be higher risk, I think, which is something that most people don't want to deal with.)

One coin that I really like that is going to the direction of full anonymity is SpectreCoin (XSPEC).

Right now, a thousand USD will get you a little over 1,600 XSPEC. Or, you could wait and see if the price drops a little. However, even if you buy now, in the next year I expect the value of XSPEC to soar, perhaps into the $1 or $2 range. Apparently I'm not the only one, either:
https://walletinvestor.com/forecast/spectrecoin-prediction

My recommendation is you put your 1k in SpectreCoin.

Honestly with the milestones on their road map set for next year I wouldn't be surprised if it was closer to 4 or 5 bucks.  It basically functions like IOTA with no tangle and  is completely anonymous.  Ring signatures plus Tor integration already exist if what I'm reading is right AND it doesn't use exit nodes.  That means everything happens inside the onion itself.  It just shot up .20cents yesterday.  Seems as if more people are finding out about it gradually as their marketing is shit.  It's like a word-of-mouth burger joint with no sign.  But the kind of anonymous burger joint that, within a year or so, has a line of people outside waiting to get a burger.  You know what I'm talking about.

Why do you say this?

Could you offer a bit of personal analysis as to why you would choose these coins?

I too am looking to make major investments, although I would like to spread mine over a broader portfolio than 1 coin.

Can I ask what you see as the real value to spectre coin, other than anonymity.

It is my opinion that the market is moving towards Dapps with a real world application of transitioning traditional functions to decentralised alternatives.

Privacy coins, in my opinion, have had there time and will not be the biggest winners in 2018.

Viacoin is suitable for purchase. Not long ago a strong one made a rise. However, it can perform an upward movement again. Bitcoin is stable and can be invested without going up in price. It also has good resistance against bitcoin's upside.

sonm good buy

posw too

There are many coins. ADA, Comodo, Ardor, IOTA and others. What I fear is that they made multiplications in their price and I'm afraid of losing money after I get into them.

I think the two picks of yours shows your understanding of the market good projects with good team and currently undervalued (SONM and DNT), I will add MGO, Wagerr, Enigma and Status to your list

I think Bancor is a good project with plenty of potential.

SPECTRECOIN
IT IS CRIMINALLY UNDERVALUED

XSPEC is the one of (if not) best and most undervalued crypto as you might have already noticed. Its primary focus in untraceable transactions
Especially, when v1.5 comes out (v1.4 comes out anyday now)

THE REASONING IS
It is PoSv3 so its rather fast - 60 sec transactions
- It has got stealth addresses that make your transactions go throught separate uncorelated addresses
- It will feature Ring Signatures from v1.5 on, that makes your digital signature of transaction signed by a person of a specific pool
- It is first ever coin (cept scam ICO TokeyPay totally copied our wallet from github with only changing logo) that has got TOR with OBFUScation4 integrated natively into an opened client. It makes your traffic appear as a normal one to a provider or whoever looks(instead of looking like TOR traffic)
- It has got encrypted chat function which is a big deal for privacy (would be more easy to use in v1.4)

GREATEST FEATURES OF THE PROJECT
XSPEC has got professional cryptographers (15+ years in the field) who made it all possible. You can join our slack and contact with them and start discussion no problem. As some people pointed out, there XSPEC is targeted to feature in Q12018 the best tech among its competition, yet the price is laughable compared to other established anon cryptos.

FURTHER STEPS
After the release of v1.4 @Brycel (a professional cryptographer and matematician) will write a document specifying how the tech works - we'll call it "ghost paper" Also new website is coming on the way, since present one doesn't seem to be attractive at all, and was done in a super short emergency timeframe, since the dev, who was supposed to make a website (@nullsec) scammed away at the last minute
REGARDING RICHLIST With v1.5 stealth addresses becoming default ones, cryptoID won't be able to tell anything anymore. I agree that there are lots of "whales" But it is because of ICO gained only 17BTC due to it was founded on ShadowCash. So you could get a lot for..pause...83 sats. Good thing that as a project was miserably founded, actual team doesnt work on ICO collected funds. Part of the development was made pro-bono. In v1.4 theres going to be a slider that lets you to set up whatever percentage of staking funds you receive from supporting networks towards project development fund (actual development + marketing). As you can guess it will help distribution alot since donated coins would fly on the market

You have just replied to yourself, they are under the ico price, so why would you invest in there?
The only thing that you are doing is just contribute to those scammy projects.

Sonm is a good project, but it could not been developed because they did not even raised the 2/4 of the expected funds.

And this is happening with a lot of ico's at the moment, because they are expecting to raise 150 millions, or even more..

Not a bad choice. It has potential, it's still under ICO price. They also broke record when they made hardcap.
We can assume that they are still undervalued. You can buy Bancor. It would definitely be better investment idea than buying Sonm.

What do you think about LTC ? It's likely mirror coin with bitcoin and way cheaper, it's going to have success over the years.

the best chose is neo i think.

it is really good project and a good calender.

sonm and kin will be good at 2018 too.

Is kin still alive? ;D
Sonm is not a good choice, but Neo is. You can also buy Neo.
Choose now, Neo or Bancor? Or split 500 each? Both have promises.

There are two standout candidates for me - Spectrecoin and Neo. Spectrecoin is THE most holistic privacy coin but at a fraction of the price of Monero at present (under 1%). Once the marketing kicks in the potential is massive.

Neo is simply the smartest coin out there, ICO friendly, excellent eco system and pays gas dividends for holding in a Neon wallet and scratching your butt (about 6-7% dividend per year)

thank you!! and i also don't like how badly xspec has been shilled lately... not saying theyre wrong cuz ive done my fair share of occasional shilling, but it kind of feels overdone...

i think xspec has potential to make gains, but as you said, better coins with a purpose are available..

hmmm.. thanks for the info, will consider this advice. anyother projects you feel are undervalued? or havent made insane gains lately?

i feel like ive already missed the entry point for via coin, if it corrects to an acceptable price then maybe ill jump in.

not interested in electroneum, but maybe HEROcoin, which exchange?

DIVI seems interesting, but i feel like something isn't right about their model - (different levels of masternodes, sub 10mil supply of coins)

Unfortunately Status just hit a new ATH today. and i'm scared to jump in.. (need to do more research on it)

will check out MGO

i do like Enigma a lot!!! i forgot about it, thanks for reminding me

i like wager a lot, too again it has risen a lot recently, but im more likely to go for it since its market cap is still only 40 mil. + mainnet + testnet launch in jan.

Sonm looks like a good bet to me, they will release a big surprise news on December 25 during christmas. You can find more information on their website at Sonm.io/miracle I think

I think they are going to release a new wallet + announce a partnership

Yes they are going to release their testnet on December 25th. But I don't think that this is the "secret" news they are going to announce that day, cause it isn't a secret after all.

I'm hoping for a major partnership. This would cause the price to skyrocket. The growth in the last weeks looks also very healthy so far.

all the tokens were not pumped yet

1) SpectreCoin (XSPEC) - 0.00003315 BTC (+3.35%)  Wink Very interesting project that will definitely go up in price! - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2103301.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2103301.0)
XSPEC - I'm sure that it will cost much more than now, I buy this coin for all my money!
Indeed an anonymous coin which is dynamically developed by the community!

Publication about the project - https://globalcoinreport.com/heres-why-now-might-be-a-good-time-to-pick-up-some-spectrecoin-xpsec/ (https://globalcoinreport.com/heres-why-now-might-be-a-good-time-to-pick-up-some-spectrecoin-xpsec/)  ;)


2) eXperience - 0.00000002 BTC (+68.13%) - Volume (24h)    $2 957 620 USD  :o \ 165.43 BTC  ::) -
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2313170.120 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2313170.120)
The cost will increase several times by the end of the year, a very interesting project with a large volume of bidding !!!

3) ZOIN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2085112.0

4) KZCash - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2312421.820

5) Monoeci (XMCC) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2083054

update : ended up picking 2 coins - TNT and ENG - happy with my choice so far

 ;D

If you are having a hard time looking for better coins, go for those that are on top but which are going to go higher still in the coming days and months. Strat and Waves remain to be good coins for investment especially for long term holding. You may also look at ETC. I am also considering the new coin Eidoo (EDO). I think this will become bigger in the future.

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Hi tomwalsh, thank you for the question.

With all due respect, I wonder if you are missing the point.  Anonymity IS the real value of Spectrecoin.  Robust anonymity, that is.  This coin is not messing around when it comes to protecting the privacy and anonymity of its users.

Say, have you ever heard of the "World's Smallest Political Quiz?"  (If not, look it up.  You'll learn something new, if nothing else.)  The Libertarian Party likes to use it as a recruiting tool.  Know why?  Because, despite the seemingly radical slant of its questions, the consistent results from the quiz indicate that more people unknowingly identify as libertarian than any other political persuasion.  These are people who value their privacy, and they do NOT want anyone, let alone guns-and-fists wielding government thugs, involving themselves in their private affairs - including their financial transactions, communications, and personal net worth.  And, believe it or not, they are not just a tiny minority.

My point is, people who value privacy may not be a vocal bunch, but they are a large and economically powerful minority (if not majority).  When you say "other than anonymity," as if that were a minor detail, it makes it appear that you are out of touch with a major segment of your countrymen (assuming you are a U.S. or Canadian person.)  Coins that secure the privacy of the individual have not at all "had their time;" as a matter of fact, with the mounting government crackdown around the world on Bitcoin, and application of their insidious AML/KYC laws to crypto transactions and trading, privacy coins are only now beginning to come into their own.  Bitcoin no longer enjoys the presumption of privacy it enjoyed in past years.

John McAfee was not kidding when he indicated that the privacy coins will see a major increase in market share going forward.

If you want to ride the next big wave in crypto to financial security, I strongly recommend that you not make the mistake of overlooking privacy coins.

Privacy coins are always going to have a big section of the market so there is always space for a new coin as long as there are some innovations after all many people are unhappy about the number of bitcoin forks but the number of dash forks are impressive as well.

This is interesting and where I see the divide between people who are cashing in on a market that is growing as a result of Satoshi's initial implementation of the Bitcoin and people who want to actualize the PURPOSE of the implementation of the Bitcoin.  Bitcoin has not grown to it's current state on the market as a result of people who expected it to become a major financial instrument or store of wealth.  What started the growth of Bitcoin were the people who realized it could completely free them from monitoring of transactions by governments through banking entities.  Like it or not... it grew as a result of drug sales done anonymously over the TOR network.  If those markets hadn't picked up Bitcoin for its (at that time) anonymous  utility it would not have it's current market value.  That is a fact.

The option to have privacy is an integral part of these markets, as is decentralization.  Yes, these applications should have real world function.  Privacy coins will have similar function as hand to hand trading of cash  because it's only the business of yourself and the other person you are dealing with.  This is how trade should work, completely free of tertiary entities unless one is desired.   But currently fiat is controlled by tertiary entities.  This means that you can make no large transactions without someone knowing about it.  Even small cashless purchases are monitored by these entities.  You get a sandwich on a creditcard... They know you got a sandwich.  Some people are okay with this, but many are not.  In my opinion it's creepy.

But people are resistant and resilient.  For every restriction a government or other controlling entity attempts to place on them people we will work around that.  We do not desire to be controlled just, in most cases, lead.  PRIVACY IS of real value to a lot of us... but also the rapid transaction speeds give it GREAT utility.

Agreed with this one. XSPEC has better privacy bsaed technology than all the other privacy coins but it still just under $1 due to extremely poor marketing. They are releasing a new website soon so better get some quick, it won't be cheap for long!

Sonm is also a good choice, but i suspect it is a long term hodl.