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Hi,

I really don't get how everyone is putting a "liked my post? donate!" in their signature. I mean, come on, wtf? Now you expect me to pay you because you voluntarily decided to express an opinion and it wasn't total crap?

What's with the greed, dude...

Seriously, how much do people expect to make this way? A dollar a week? 1.20$?

I propose an unconditional, unlimited ban for everbody having a bitcoin address in their signature!

I totally agree!  If you agree with my agreement, please send a donation to the address in my sig  ;D

lol

If I read of useful comment that solved my problem, then do I wish to show gratitude ?
False debate.
Need 5 post I guess  ::)

Some people have legit advice they give to people, some people have services and some people just would like a little starter. Personally I don't find it malicious at all, it's when it gets to the begging for it point that I would draw the line.

Maybe some people do heavy work on their post - especially cited ones


It looks pretty funny seeing donation sigs under posts containing nothing more than 'lol' though

Personally it's not like I honestly expect anyone to donate anything to me, it's mostly novelty having my address there just in case anyone is feeling the need, I'm so overwhelmed by all of this bitcoin business right now that I can't make heads or tails of anything.

Anyways I really wouldn't take it all that seriously, unless someone can prove to me that they've been donated to plenty of times via a sig message.

I have received 13.112 BTC in the past week to the address in my sig, not counting some transfers that weren't really donations because the person agreed to pay me a specific amount for a specific thing. You can see it in blockexplorer. These are mostly from people who want to fund my work on patching bitcoind for better operation with massive mining pools.

Well deserved!  Excellent work you have done on bitcoind so far! :)

i got donated full 0,01 for beein cool from somebody here.

I don't see what the big deal is. I mean, it's not like someone's forcing you to contribute or read their sig and occasionally you do come across a post that has good info which merits a donation...even if it's only .001 BTC

It might be interesting to see if anyone pitches-pennies on non-bitcoin related forums.

I don't see any issue with this. It's better than the "1 bajillion Mhash/s on deepbit" sigs.

I got 0.5 BTC once for insulting a guy.  Oddly enough none of my posts that were actually helpful have caused donations yet.

Wow, go figure.

Took me a minute to understand this... if you use different address for each post, then you can easily track which comment the donor was responding to.  Very clever!

I think there is a way for advertisers to exploit that feature for some serious market intel...  of course they would first have to learn what bitcoin is ;)

No, the sig is the same every time.  The guy that gave me the half coin said so in the thread.  The only other traffic on that address was a tenth of a coin for linking the Bitcoin Sun.

Oh, and it looks like someone is now sending 0.03429043 coins, and I have no idea why.

I don't have a problem with it In the sig. I don't see it as begging.

Now If you started a topic. Please give me coins as my hampster broke his leg, My gf needs a dress etc

then I would consider that begging.

I have donated to peoples sigs before that's helped me out. Why well I was 2 lazy to spend 2hrs on google and RTFM to fix my issue.

so far the total amount I have got that I cannot explain is .0015

I do not understand why it would make you mad that people have a donation address in their sig. Perhaps some people feel inspired by what someone else says and choose to show their appreciation. The operative term being choose. As for me I have an addy in my sig and I have yet to receive one of these mythical donations but i don't really expect to. I just think it would be a neat surprise. I think people take things way too seriously in the world but at the same time fail to take important things seriously enough.

Whoa! 
That's a bigger idea than it seems at first. 
It reveals some of the potentials and pitfalls of bitcoin. 
It chips away at the anonymity it offers.

You do understand that donations are voluntary, don't you?

well the op is free to well.... never come back here again if he does not like the way its run..

 

So OP is one of those people who complain about every single piece of unimportant and unsignificant stuff... why do you read those signatures anyway?

Grief, you guys are being hard on the OP.

I also noted (https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=25211.msg313202#msg313202) the oddness of asking for money in a different post.  I find it slightly unseemly.

Though it is a little much for the OP to suggest a rule to keep people from doing it.  Maybe that's what invited the strong reaction.

Feel free to donate any BTC to McLovin!

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Of course I wasn't seriously proposing to put a rule in place. Also, I see why people providing an actual service would ask for donations.

I personally just don't think coming off all begging is worth the 22 Cents a month.

I don't see how this is a problem. Consider this-

I make a post saying, "I can't get my miner working, my motherboard is borked!"

Then someone with more experience than me comes along and solves the issue, without me having to go buy a new mobo.

Wouldn't I want to show appreciation? Certainly I won't ask for his paypal addy and send him some USD. But if I just got a payout from another miner of mine, and I have 2.05 in my wallet, I might send him that .05. No real skin off my back, but if the guy is running around helping other people, that .05 could add up.

Oh internets....

Here's a smart way to do so: you could say thanks!

If you hadn't just found the internet yesterday you wouldn't even think about asking for donations.

I agree, it's odd. But why? Because easy, direct, electronic, global, micro payments actually don't exist in a world without BitCoin or something similar. Fair enough, there is a bit of excess here.

Saying thanks just isn't good enough anymore. Thanks along with 0.5 BTC can really show your appreciation. This additional support for the people willing to help each other out can really drive quality up. Micro payments everywhere and in everything is the future.

Why so serious? ;D

I would donate a lot more to various YouTube uploaders if only they'd include an address in their comments.

Likewise with bitcoin-related articles on the web.

Why, it is annoying.

That's why I, rather arrogantly, just f'ing tell you to.
U DONATIN' YET?

Is that Nick Nolte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Nolte) in your avatar? I didn't realise he got a boob job.

All of you, shut up and pay me!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/Lannister/LOLcat_-_Grammar_Nazi_Cat.jpg

Hahaha, I think the grammar-nazi cat forgot his hyphenation of phrasal attributives.

It doesn't bother me that people ask for money, but that they ask for a 'donation'. Are you a charity? If I give you money, can I claim it as a deduction on my taxes? Isn't 'gratuity' a more appropriate word?

Asking for a 'donation' suggests that you are in need and that you have to rely on the kindness of others. It suggests weakness and insincerity.

Asking for a 'gratuity' says, "I provided a valuable service. If you want to thank me with money, I will happily accept it." It suggests strength and confidence.

Maybe I'm splitting semantic hairs, but it really bothers me.

The use of the word "donation" to mean a gift or contribution to a cause is common.

Up to here, you had a somewhat valid 'complaint' - although I still think you're overreacting (noone is expecting you to pay him, you are just given the option in the odd event that you may want to donate something to a user).
Here it gets ridiculous.

Like, seriously, ridiculous. Ban someone for a bitcoin address in their forum signature? What's next? Ban people for having a megahash/sec tag? Ban people for saying something about Satoshi? Ban people for linking to their Bitcoin-related service without having a 'premium' forum subscription (as some non-Bitcoin forums do)?

Live and let live. Noone is forcing you to do anything. Noone is forcing you to send them money. Noone is 'begging' - they are simply providing a Bitcoin address for those who wish to donate to someone for whatever reason.

_{Disclaimer: one of the things I actually like most about the Bitcoin economy is that it's very donation-driven, compared to the 'regular' economy. People set up services, and simply accept donations instead of charging a flat fee of everyone. I consider donation-based services or products as 'voluntary payment' (the Humble Bundle works in a similar way), something I absolutely support, and actually use myself to pay for all of my expenses.}

This broaches another topic I've been meaning to raise--maybe I'll yet start a thread on it.

The very anonymity that helps makes bitcoin attractive makes it no good for donating to charity.

If I donate 100 BTC to my favorite legitimate charity, how can they prove it was me that gave it to issue a receipt?  And how much do they make the receipt for?

You go to their web page, click the 'donate bitcoins' button, fill out your info, they give you a receiving address just for you, you send the bitcoins, they mail you a receipt.


The current fair market value of the bitcoins in your local currency, just as they would for any donation in a form other than your local currency.

Since you obviously didn't read this thread, but for some reason insist on commenting anyway, I will hint you to my previous post:

1. Sarcasm doesn't travel well over the internet.
2. It would be unreasonable to expect everyone to read full threads before responding... some of the threads here can be 50+ pages long. I usually read the OP, the first few posts, and the last 2 posts or so. That is usually enough to get an idea of a thread enough to respond.

I don't see anything wrong with it - am a total n00b at this and hate being a n00b since I'm by no means Internet stupid, so I joined feeling a bit cranky and frustrated with myself for not knowing what to do once I had Bit Coin downloaded and the donation requests actually made me smile.

And no, I'm not encouraging it, but gosh, you have to just let people be who and what they are. If you don't care for it, no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to pay attention to the requests. Just sayin'.  And who knows, maybe someday you'll have a pile of bit coins and someone will help or inspire you and you'll be inclined to share a fraction or two of one of your coins! ;)  It could happen!

http://imgur.com/S27lq.png (http://www.youtipit.org/t/J3470-3)

Don't you hate pants? (http://www.youtipit.org/t/J3470-3)

I heard this is the thread to come to if you are looking for donations! :)

Yes you're surely right here :)

I also heard that OP delivers a lot donations :D

Sent you 0.01... anyone else? Hahahaha...

Oh, a pants fan (http://www.youtipit.org/t/J3470-3), I see how it is.

I found the donation addresses a little off-putting at first, but then I just got used to them being everywhere. Kind of like hobos. Actually a lot like hobos.

well sir, then you just proved me wrong.

now if only i had any skill at coding, and encryption, and etc.

whahah :)  Im RICH! :)  RICH I TELL YOU!

Some posts are helping people make more money. Some of the solutions these people post took a lot of trail and error to learn.

You mean errors like 'trail'?

Heh, sorry.

I don't want to put a bitcoin address in my signature, it's just my username which happens to be too long  ;D

^^^^^^^^ lol@username

Could've registered firstbits_xxxxx with xxxxx being your firstbits :p

I wanted a separate address for the forum, and it doesn't appear in the blockchain right now. Someone could help me with that  ;)

Hey OP, can you spare some BTC?

Sure, I can also send you cash!

Cash? What is that?

I thought it was weird at first, but then saw it as a form of tipping - but the most extreme ideal of tipping. Sparing some cotter for someone being helpful or giving good critical feedback.

Maybe it helps skim out unhelpful or non answers and comments. Then again, maybe its like throwing pennies at friends and family. Double check for quarters and dimes first. 

I wanted to tip the OP for his good idea, but there was nothing in the sig :(

easy solution for op -> turn off signature. however, I gotta back him in the sillyness about putting a donation address in there. why don't ppl put there bank accounts in the sig? (:

Because it's practically impossible to send 0.01$ to someones bank account if you like his post. That's why Flattr is so popular for blogs etc. (and forums where they have a Flattr plugin).

Well... I'm not going to stick it in my signature or anything... but I'm getting married next month and it's costing me an arm and a leg! anything helps guys  ;D : 14es7WXzTcKgZihzJqmg282wybrmk8Yf6R

Just keep your 'belongings' in the garage, or you know, go online for that sort of thing  ;)

I do agree that having you wallet in your sig is akin to just casually asking every passer by if he can spare some change frankly. You don't expect anything but maybe he likes your outfit? Who knows! It's not really panhandling is it?

well i keep mine in my sig not so much for actual donations, but just to spread awareness of my service :)

It's a pretty handy service too.


Much easier than remembering 1sjfekJhrswark2924nwjrhkachr or whatnot. lol

 :D


EDIT: I thought I had a link to my payb.tc address in my signature, but apparently it was removed.

:(

yes true noobs can't have links or images, but i see your short link in your profile :D sent you 0.02

I always try to have a backup plan!  ;D


Oh that's cool!! I see the transaction! Thanks!

First off you're keeping an address in your signature, and not a wallet.
Second, it's not really comparable. If you ask every passer-by for spare change, you are actually bugging them about it. Leaving an address in your signature is more like sitting on a chair with a small sign next to you saying 'this is my address', and holding a speech (writing a post).

Oh fudge it. Putting something in my sig afterall...   8)

I picture it more like a musician playing/singing on the sidewalk with a little tip cup next to him/her.  If someone really likes their stuff, they'll throw a tip.  Same thing here - if someone really likes your post, they'll throw a tip.  Well, maybe, sometimes.  :P