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Title: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on December 17, 2017, 10:22:08 PM
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/B250-MINING-EXPERT/HelpDesk_BIOS/

Is this the fabled mythical 19 card bios ASUS has been talking about? Or just another bullshit hotfix...
 


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on December 18, 2017, 08:41:15 AM
ya thats what i thought. it does jack shit. mobo is a scam


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on December 31, 2017, 12:35:54 PM
1 more day till all asus b250 mining experts are recalled


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: oxymoron88 on December 31, 2017, 01:03:56 PM
Hi,
I am thinking of buying more of this board for my machine. Are there any issue with this board?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: splat1 on December 31, 2017, 01:46:40 PM
1 more day till all asus b250 mining experts are recalled

Do you have a source for this?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: flip4flop on December 31, 2017, 02:15:19 PM
They won’t be recalled just failing to meet a deadline.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on December 31, 2017, 02:22:14 PM
They won’t be recalled just failing to meet a deadline.

ya they will, everyone is ganna return them and just get asrock 13gpu boards and get refund on this crap

everyone bought this thinking 19gpus coming soon in decemburr, well guess what it aint happening. so ur stuck with a 13gpu board priced at $300... nice.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: RIGED on December 31, 2017, 03:12:07 PM
currently using one, bought it thinking i could connect 19 Vega64 on it but allas it can only BARELY support 8 of them
i have 6 on it and its stable but no more

saw the update but havent installed yet, waitting for others to do the testing as i dont want to fix something that is currently running fine

started a thread detailing my experience with pics, including the component that overheats and slows the mobo down (bet you didnt know about that)

for those interested the thread is here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2549085.0

as with anything new there are bugs to be fixed, i just want ASUS to show a little more attention to this mobo, time will tell




Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: john1010 on January 01, 2018, 01:00:51 PM
I got this one and having some issue, when I install 9 cards the windows 10 start button and search doesn't work even i do much of the requirements, but when i decrease the cards the windows start button start working, it's some kind of weird, Im using latest build of windows (1709)


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: QuintLeo on January 01, 2018, 09:56:39 PM
currently using one, bought it thinking i could connect 19 Vega64 on it but allas it can only BARELY support 8 of them
i have 6 on it and its stable but no more


 That is an issue with the drivers for the Vega, not the motherboard - EVERYONE has been having issues getting more than about 4 Vega cards working on one rig, and I've NEVER seen a "working on more than 6 reliably" report.

 With that said, the weird no-reason-for-it limitation to 13 "non-mining cards" has never been explained by ASUS, and there is NO sensible reason for it.


 They've also never specified if anything OTHER THAN the P106 mining cards count as "mining cards" or WHY they have the restriction in the BIOS or what the BIOS is looking for when it imposes that senseless restriction.



Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: RIGED on January 01, 2018, 10:21:48 PM
currently using one, bought it thinking i could connect 19 Vega64 on it but allas it can only BARELY support 8 of them
i have 6 on it and its stable but no more


 That is an issue with the drivers for the Vega, not the motherboard - EVERYONE has been having issues getting more than about 4 Vega cards working on one rig, and I've NEVER seen a "working on more than 6 reliably" report.

 With that said, the weird no-reason-for-it limitation to 13 "non-mining cards" has never been explained by ASUS, and there is NO sensible reason for it.


 They've also never specified if anything OTHER THAN the P106 mining cards count as "mining cards" or WHY they have the restriction in the BIOS or what the BIOS is looking for when it imposes that senseless restriction.



yea this made no sense to me either, seems like the marketing of this mobo is a scam cover, the only good gimic is the port check screen at startup as it helps with gpu installation 

i am as mentioned before running 6 vega64s on it very stable at 12.5kHs total ETN on nanopool using reg-ed cast xmr




Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: starrbuck on January 02, 2018, 08:23:48 PM
They won’t be recalled just failing to meet a deadline.

ya they will, everyone is ganna return them and just get asrock 13gpu boards and get refund on this crap

everyone bought this thinking 19gpus coming soon in decemburr, well guess what it aint happening. so ur stuck with a 13gpu board priced at $300... nice.

Nobody's going to return them and there won't be a recall.  Sometimes development takes more time.  And only an idiot would pay $300 when they are $169 at Newegg.  That's where I got mine.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: jrrccmining on January 02, 2018, 09:18:45 PM
If you follow the manual on what cards are required, the board works perfectly fine. You need mining specific cards.

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/B250_MINING_EXPERT/E13594_B250_MINING_EXPERT_UM_V2_WEB.pdf

Page 1-9.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Alyeska on January 02, 2018, 09:22:30 PM
They won’t be recalled just failing to meet a deadline.

ya they will, everyone is ganna return them and just get asrock 13gpu boards and get refund on this crap

everyone bought this thinking 19gpus coming soon in decemburr, well guess what it aint happening. so ur stuck with a 13gpu board priced at $300... nice.

Nobody's going to return them and there won't be a recall.  Sometimes development takes more time.  And only an idiot would pay $300 when they are $169 at Newegg.  That's where I got mine.


I am Not returning mine,

I Bought 3 of this Board, all at separate times, and each time I have never paid more than 149 US$ each on Amazon, don't pay the inflated price's you may find elsewhere online, and just watch for when they are in stock, directly shipped and sold by Amazon or NewEgg, and then you will consider this board a great purchase even if it should only be populated up to 13 regular GPU at this point,


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: starrbuck on January 02, 2018, 09:52:22 PM
Nobody's going to return them and there won't be a recall.  Sometimes development takes more time.  And only an idiot would pay $300 when they are $169 at Newegg.  That's where I got mine.


I am Not returning mine,

I Bought 3 of this Board, all at separate times, and each time I have never paid more than 149 US$ each on Amazon, don't pay the inflated price's you may find elsewhere online, and just watch for when they are in stock, directly shipped and sold by Amazon or NewEgg, and then you will consider this board a great purchase even if it should only be populated up to 13 regular GPU at this point,

$149!  Even better!  Yes, they are still bargains at "only" thirteen cards usable.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bigdrago on January 02, 2018, 10:30:11 PM
So it wont work with 19 rx 580 cards?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Vann on January 02, 2018, 10:37:35 PM
No. At least not without adding 8 P106 mining cards. BBT was able to run 21 cards, 13 AMD RX 570 + 8 Nvidia P106 in Windows 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUoqnUqk9M&feature=youtu.be&t=6201


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: darkneorus on January 02, 2018, 10:38:39 PM
So it wont work with 19 rx 580 cards?
yep, it won't work and won't even boot.
but it works fine with NVIDIA P104/P106 cards.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Permonik on January 02, 2018, 11:24:28 PM
currently using one, bought it thinking i could connect 19 Vega64 on it but allas it can only BARELY support 8 of them
i have 6 on it and its stable but no more


 That is an issue with the drivers for the Vega, not the motherboard - EVERYONE has been having issues getting more than about 4 Vega cards working on one rig, and I've NEVER seen a "working on more than 6 reliably" report.

 With that said, the weird no-reason-for-it limitation to 13 "non-mining cards" has never been explained by ASUS, and there is NO sensible reason for it.


 They've also never specified if anything OTHER THAN the P106 mining cards count as "mining cards" or WHY they have the restriction in the BIOS or what the BIOS is looking for when it imposes that senseless restriction.


No thats not true. My rig running with 8x vegas 64 on this board more than 3weeks nonstop.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Neo-Geo on January 03, 2018, 02:47:08 AM
I bought 11 ASUS B250 Mining Expert MBs, 10 are being used in 8 GPU Nvidia rigs. Setup was the simplest/fastest I've had with a MB, just changed two settings and update bios if not already 403. They all run like tanks and are ultra stable for weeks at a time. Cost was as low as $134.99 shipped from Amazon for batches of 5. I wouldn't sell one for $300, is the best mining MB currently available.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bigdrago on January 03, 2018, 09:43:23 AM
I bought 11 ASUS B250 Mining Expert MBs, 10 are being used in 8 GPU Nvidia rigs. Setup was the simplest/fastest I've had with a MB, just changed two settings and update bios if not already 403. They all run like tanks and are ultra stable for weeks at a time. Cost was as low as $134.99 shipped from Amazon for batches of 5. I wouldn't sell one for $300, is the best mining MB currently available.

Why buy b250 if u only going to use 8 gpu?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bimmber on January 03, 2018, 09:47:21 AM
Future proofing.... ?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Alyeska on January 03, 2018, 10:25:21 AM
I bought 11 ASUS B250 Mining Expert MBs, 10 are being used in 8 GPU Nvidia rigs. Setup was the simplest/fastest I've had with a MB, just changed two settings and update bios if not already 403. They all run like tanks and are ultra stable for weeks at a time. Cost was as low as $134.99 shipped from Amazon for batches of 5. I wouldn't sell one for $300, is the best mining MB currently available.

Why buy b250 if u only going to use 8 gpu?

This Exactly!
 ASUS has always been a very reputable company, and given that I purchased every one of my B250 Mining Expert boards for less that US $149 , and every one of them can presently run up to 13 standard GPU, with a future update to expand beyond that, I am quite happy,

Even if I made the Purchase under the assumption, that it would never be more than a 12 GPU MB, based purely on its stability and quality at that price point, It would be my only mother board purchase for the foreseeable future,
definitely my MB of choice as of 1/3/2018


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bigdrago on January 03, 2018, 10:38:37 AM
As today, will it work with 9 radeon 580 and 10 nvidia p106?

How effective is the p106?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Metroid on January 03, 2018, 10:51:51 AM
How effective is the p106?

I would worry about the warranty, 3 months is just too low, if the gpu stops working after 3 months then you are screwed.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Neo-Geo on January 03, 2018, 11:12:43 AM
Why buy b250 if u only going to use 8 gpu?

As far as I know, it's the only MB that supports multiple PSUs, I like the boot screen slot detection, almost perfect factory bios settings (just 2 changes), was a good price, and was readily available. I'm also running Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, I'm not a fan of AMD becuase I like reliability/stability & low temp + fast boots and high hash rates.  I'm sure there are many who would argue/question, "why only use water cooled, why no wooden cases, why 16GB DDR4, why 256 GB Samsung SSDs, why Titanium rated EVGA T2 1600s, why Kabby Lake i5 7400T CPUs, why 240V 30A circuits". Sure, you can cut corners all day long, but I chose not to. Was there a better motherboard for mining back in September 2017 for < $134.99 delivered that I overlooked?

(change dot com to .com and remove the spaces):
tinyurl dot com/y73yexjr
tinyurl dot com/y7j8qd8m


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bimmber on January 03, 2018, 11:15:28 AM
Neo,

Why Kabby Lake i5 7400T? Celeron is enough.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Neo-Geo on January 03, 2018, 11:23:35 AM
35W TDP and $115 average cost per i5-7400T OEM pack. I'm not aware of any downsides to 4 core and low TDP, besides, the upgrade from 2 core was negligible/inconsequential, and I'd rather abstain from swapping out MBs and CPUs for as long as possible, so future proofing and just swapping out GPUs is preferable. My electrician also questioned why I insisted on solid 8 gauge copper wire for the 240V 30A circuits when 10 gauge copper clad would have sufficed. Again, there are zero downsides to thicker wire using better materials and I prefer lower resistance and not burning the house down. Sure, you can cut corners all day long, but I chose not to.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on January 03, 2018, 01:06:54 PM
nobody has p104 they dont exist.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: eleceng1979 on January 03, 2018, 01:12:25 PM
Neo,

Why Kabby Lake i5 7400T? Celeron is enough.

When using Asrock H110 BTC+ with 7 x 1070 + 6 x 570 my G3930 Celeron runs at 70-80% CPU when using some miners.  With the combination of this AMD miner + that NVIDIA miner it uses high CPU.  I profit switch with Awesome miner on Win 10 so any combination of miners is possible.  I have ran linux and have seen similar results, just a little bit lower and returned to windows for ease of use.  When administering the machine remotely or performing and maintenance work it is simply unusable and hashrates suffer.  Remember that the CPU has to handle bus interrupts for data flow... more cards = more interrupts.  When my setup is working hard the process interrupts account for 40-50% CPU.

Those of you who are not mining on 13+ GPU's rigs shouldn't lecture us who do with your Celeron is OK bullshit.  IMHO a I3 series and 8GB memory are a bare min for these types of setups.

The OP has taken necessary steps to prevent a CPU bottleneck and personally don't care if he shoved a I7 in it...  It is his prerogative and money.  Most miners overlook the details like CPU and power requirements and wonder why their shit melts down.  There is more to mining than ROI and cheap parts.

My next build will be a 19GPU.  You cannot exceed 13GPUs of any driver type due to driver limitations.  When building a 19GPU rig it needs to be 13 and 6 of each manufacture, period.  Anyone investing in a 19 GPU rig not knowing this or believing a promise of ASUS who doesn't write GPU drivers, expecting 19 of one type of GPU to work should be slapped.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bimmber on January 03, 2018, 01:13:35 PM
Thanks for that, good to know!


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on January 03, 2018, 01:15:07 PM
its g4400 pentium.... thats the baremin

1-5% vnc full load with 13gpus doing eth. you dont know shit about configuring your machine properly. g4400 pentium is enough


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: OhMyHolyToken on January 03, 2018, 01:34:11 PM
This card will support 12x RX570 and 7x 1060?

Thanks


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Vann on January 03, 2018, 01:40:34 PM
Neo,

Why Kabby Lake i5 7400T? Celeron is enough.

When using Asrock H110 BTC+ with 7 x 1070 + 6 x 570 my G3930 Celeron runs at 70-80% CPU when using some miners.  With the combination of this AMD miner + that NVIDIA miner it uses high CPU.  I profit switch with Awesome miner on Win 10 so any combination of miners is possible.  I have ran linux and have seen similar results, just a little bit lower and returned to windows for ease of use.  When administering the machine remotely or performing and maintenance work it is simply unusable and hashrates suffer.  Remember that the CPU has to handle bus interrupts for data flow... more cards = more interrupts.  When my setup is working hard the process interrupts account for 40-50% CPU.

Those of you who are not mining on 13+ GPU's rigs shouldn't lecture us who do with your Celeron is OK bullshit.  IMHO a I3 series and 8GB memory are a bare min for these types of setups.

The OP has taken necessary steps to prevent a CPU bottleneck and personally don't care if he shoved a I7 in it...  It is his prerogative and money.  Most miners overlook the details like CPU and power requirements and wonder why their shit melts down.  There is more to mining than ROI and cheap parts.

Well said. I agree the minimum for a 13 card motherboard should be an i3 with 8GB of DDR4. On my ASRock H110 Pro BTC+ Windows 10 v1709 build 13 card RX 580 build with an i3 6100 and 8GB RAM, about ~35% CPU and 4GB RAM is in use when dual mining. Boot times, updates and driver installation also go MUCH faster with a better processor. It's amazing people have no problem droping $4K+ on overpriced GPU's for a build, but are too cheap to spend an extra $120 to buy an adequate CPU and RAM for a 13 GPU build that will make their life easier. LOL.

https://image.ibb.co/d7ff1b/13_Card_build.jpg


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Metroid on January 03, 2018, 03:31:01 PM
In theory a celeron g3930 1151 should be enough for 13 gpu's, a system with 6 gpu's with a celeron uses 12% maximum, placing 7 more gpu's in theory should double that figure to around 30%. If your cpu is using more than that then check your ram and virtual memory cause high cpu usage means your ssd or usb boot drive is not that good cause is making your cpu to work harder than suppose to. See that is the problem, if you are not a performance freak like me then you will end up getting a i3 for your mining system hehe. In few days I will work on my friends house to test a 13 gpu system and i will report back and that will be with a celeron 8gb ram and a 128gb samsung 850 evo ssd.

@Vann, while using lots of virtual memory which comes from the win 10 install drive, you need a good drive , that way will not force your cpu to work hard.

The best thing would be 400mb virtual memory and only ram but ram is very expensive, so best thing is to get a good ssd and fill up with virtual memory.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: starrbuck on January 03, 2018, 03:32:19 PM
Yeah, that Celeron is enough is bullcrap.  I went with a Kaby Lake G4600 Pentium in my rig.  It's dual core with hyperthreading so it should have enough power as I grow the rig.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Metroid on January 03, 2018, 03:41:23 PM
Yeah, that Celeron is enough is bullcrap.  I went with a Kaby Lake G4600 Pentium in my rig.  It's dual core with hyperthreading so it should have enough power as I grow the rig.

In the end you will be exchanging something for something else. I prefer a better ssd than a better processor, but you can also go with a better cpu than a better ssd. Not bottlenecking my cpu is key for me. Also a better ssd will make my cpu to work less and use less electricity. I guess is a choice in the end.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: GaryH on January 03, 2018, 03:42:41 PM
Love to pic up the B250, but looks like they are sold out everywhere I've looked.   :(

As far as CPUs for rigs, I'm guessing you haven't mined MNX with Optiminer miner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2390070.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2390070.0)

Even with my i5-7400T it's buried at 100%...  the poor celeron I swapped out would lock up in under an hour on MNX.  Give MNX a whirl and see what your CPUs show for utilization...  I have a 5 x 1070 rig.

ETA: if anyone knows of a source for a new B250 for around $150 please let me know.  Several resellers on Amazon but they want + $350 for one.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Metroid on January 03, 2018, 03:46:52 PM
Yeah, some miners use a lot of cpu power and you dont have a choice in the matter, for example, I remember claymore equihash when it came out, used to use a lot of cpu, for a while has been that you can choose how much cpu to use.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Vann on January 03, 2018, 03:52:11 PM
Already using a Samsung 850 EVO Pro 256 GB SSD with 64GB virtual memory and disk usage is very low.

https://image.ibb.co/ikEtnG/13_Card_build_disk.jpg


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: starrbuck on January 03, 2018, 04:05:09 PM
In the end you will be exchanging something for something else. I prefer a better ssd than a better processor, but you can also go with a better cpu than a better ssd. Not bottlenecking my cpu is key for me. Also a better ssd will make my cpu to work less and use less electricity. I guess is a choice in the end.

Indeed, but any SSD should be fine.  Specifically what SSD have you seen that doesn't get the job done?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Metroid on January 03, 2018, 06:07:09 PM
Already using a Samsung 850 EVO Pro 256 GB SSD with 64GB virtual memory and disk usage is very low.

The idea about claymore ethash miner is that every gpu dagfile will be mirrored into a virtual memory, so if the dag file is 2.20gb then 13 x 2.20 = 27gb at least as virtual memory.

About your system, 36% seems to be right, there is nothing holding the cpu back. I will test a celeron on a system with 13 gpu's and report here by next week or so.

Indeed, but any SSD should be fine.  Specifically what SSD have you seen that doesn't get the job done?


Specifically usb boot drives, they will never be like good ssd's, there are many bad ssd's that make your cpu to work hard. On a system with 6 gpu's even bad ssd's will be fine, heck even usb boot drives might be.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: starrbuck on January 03, 2018, 06:43:11 PM
Indeed, but any SSD should be fine.  Specifically what SSD have you seen that doesn't get the job done?

Specifically usb boot drives, they will never be like good ssd's, there are many bad ssd's that make your cpu to work hard. On a system with 6 gpu's even bad ssd's will be fine, heck even usb boot drives might be.

I agree, and I'm not a fan of USBs as boot drives.  I prefer to stick it on an SSD.  They are so inexpensive now when you find them on sale.  I am finding that a tiny one won't do due to the swap requirements of some algos, so I am glad I have a 120 GB on my rig right now.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bigdrago on January 03, 2018, 06:55:01 PM
nobody has p104 they dont exist.

You can buy them in Norway, minimum quantity of 100. :/

Question: Do the gpus get power from the risers via mb?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bimmber on January 03, 2018, 06:56:25 PM
No, they are powered directly from power supply.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: RIGED on January 03, 2018, 08:40:34 PM
currently using one, bought it thinking i could connect 19 Vega64 on it but allas it can only BARELY support 8 of them
i have 6 on it and its stable but no more


 That is an issue with the drivers for the Vega, not the motherboard - EVERYONE has been having issues getting more than about 4 Vega cards working on one rig, and I've NEVER seen a "working on more than 6 reliably" report.

 With that said, the weird no-reason-for-it limitation to 13 "non-mining cards" has never been explained by ASUS, and there is NO sensible reason for it.


 They've also never specified if anything OTHER THAN the P106 mining cards count as "mining cards" or WHY they have the restriction in the BIOS or what the BIOS is looking for when it imposes that senseless restriction.


No thats not true. My rig running with 8x vegas 64 on this board more than 3weeks nonstop.

in all fairness it does say in the manual you can run 8 AMD cards, i must of done something wrong, will try again as i have more vegas on route


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bigdrago on January 03, 2018, 09:26:26 PM
No, they are powered directly from power supply.

So why plug the psu to the mb then?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: QuintLeo on January 04, 2018, 08:03:59 AM
Because the MB itself, the CPU, the RAM, and such still need power.

 It looks like the 2'nd and 3'd power supply slots on this MB are entirely used for "add2PSU" type functionality, NOT to power anything except POSSIBLY the group associated "1x" PCI-E slots when used for non-riser cards.



Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: QuintLeo on January 04, 2018, 08:07:27 AM
nobody has p104 they dont exist.

Announced but not actually for sale quite yet, AFAIK.



Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bigdrago on January 04, 2018, 01:01:03 PM
Because the MB itself, the CPU, the RAM, and such still need power.

 It looks like the 2'nd and 3'd power supply slots on this MB are entirely used for "add2PSU" type functionality, NOT to power anything except POSSIBLY the group associated "1x" PCI-E slots when used for non-riser cards.



B250 Mining Expert has been engineered to provide all the power your GPUs demand, cleanly and efficiently. The 19 PCIe slots are grouped into three distinct zones, each powered by its own, dedicated 24-pin ATX12V power connector — reducing wiring complexity and ensuring ample power delivery to all PCIe slots.

https://dlcdnimgs.asus.com/websites/global/products/Qm3pAt3CPluFrC2v/images/pic_ATX12V.jpg


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on January 04, 2018, 08:17:59 PM
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/B250-MINING-EXPERT/HelpDesk_BIOS/

Version 1001 released 2018/01/04 IS THIS IT??


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bimmber on January 04, 2018, 08:23:01 PM
Where do you see it?

2017/12/15 is latest BIOS on that link.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Metroid on January 04, 2018, 08:32:36 PM
Where do you see it?

2017/12/15 is latest BIOS on that link.

Version 1001 2018/01/04 5.68 MBytes

B250 MINING EXPERT BIOS 1001
"1. Update CPU Microcode

2. Improve system compatibility and stability"

You have to go to driver and tools and select windows 10 64 and then scroll down to bios.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bimmber on January 04, 2018, 08:37:40 PM
WTF? I still cannot see it ?!

https://i.imgur.com/ZylhPWP.jpg


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: QuintLeo on January 04, 2018, 10:31:45 PM
Select "OS" as "other".

 That's where it's at.



Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Neo-Geo on January 04, 2018, 11:16:31 PM
BIOS Version 1001 2018/01/04 only shows for me when I select Windows 7 64-bit. Wondering if this is intended only for Win 7 64-bit users...


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Manojdaran on January 05, 2018, 02:20:40 AM
Another BIOS update within a month. That's new. Let me try this one now


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Morgon on January 05, 2018, 05:21:06 AM
I've NEVER seen a "working on more than 6 reliably" report.
Checking in as another 8x Vega miner, though on the ASRock H110 - 15,760 of that sweet Monero hashrate, every second.


On topic, I'm glad I found this, as I was actually expecting to be able to run 18 RX570s on this thing. Though is the limitation the motherboard or Windows?

(Edit: After seeing other threads, I see the mobo won't even POST with over 13 of the same card... very weird, I definitely don't understand how any motherboard would care which GPU manufacturer is being plugged in, though someone mentioned potential display outputs, which is an interesting thought.)


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bimmber on January 05, 2018, 07:35:37 AM
Select "OS" as "other".
 That's where it's at.

Very strange. BIOS has nothing to do with version of OS, BIOS is BIOS on its own.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Metroid on January 05, 2018, 02:47:55 PM
I'm not sure but this bios could be related to meltdown, spectre, they said about stability, have my own doubts.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Permonik on January 05, 2018, 02:53:02 PM
I'm not sure but this bios could be related to meltdown, spectre, they said about stability, have my own doubts.
You have to be right, I think the same thing, because of the words "cpu microcode".


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Neo-Geo on January 08, 2018, 10:17:42 AM
Neo,

Why Kabby Lake i5 7400T? Celeron is enough.

Another miner that considers Celeron a fail for 8 GPU builds:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2706707.msg27682795#msg27682795


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Metroid on January 08, 2018, 11:44:45 AM
any cpu is a fail if using more than 90% 24/7, as long as it below 90% is all fine.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Raziel666 on January 08, 2018, 12:54:34 PM
I have been using this mobo for the last couple of months.

I had no problems with 6 GTX 1070 GPUs. I bought another 3 of the same, and I could only make it work with 8.

I updated BIOS to 0403 and tried to install the 9th, but the hashrate of *all* GPUs dropped to half. Went back to 8 and it works smoothly.

I updated BIOS to 1001 today but the 9th card isn't recognized at all in the BIOS screen. Anybody has tried with more than 8 cards and succeeded?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on January 08, 2018, 01:49:57 PM
more then 8 nvidia cards is always a shitstorm

13 amd cards always worked, just plug n play with latest drivers (compute mode).


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: QuintLeo on January 08, 2018, 08:53:09 PM
I'm not sure but this bios could be related to meltdown, spectre, they said about stability, have my own doubts.

The "Meltdown" and "Spectre" vulnerabilities are a CPU issue, NOT a BIOS issue.

I'm fairly certain that the BIOS can't work around the issue - DEFINITELY it can't for LINUX as LINUX doesn't USE the BIOS after a very early part of the boot process.



Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Metroid on January 08, 2018, 10:11:06 PM
The "Meltdown" and "Spectre" vulnerabilities are a CPU issue, NOT a BIOS issue.

It seems the fix Intel released needs a bios update to fully work, you can install only the fix but the bug will still be present, The fix will only work fully with a bios update.

"Since publishing the Meltdown benchmark we now have access to BIOS updates that deliver a microcode update which will mitigate the Spectre flaw on Intel’s latest Z370 platform. "

"Following up to our initial testing of the Meltdown patch for Windows 10, today we're looking deeper into the matter by testing a patched desktop system, by addressing the two now famous security flaws, Meltdown and Spectre, by applying the OS-level patch and a firmware update, more precisely a motherboard BIOS update."

https://www.techspot.com/article/1556-meltdown-and-spectre-cpu-performance-windows/


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: QuintLeo on January 10, 2018, 12:47:12 AM
The bug is STILL PRESENT even with the "fix" installed, the "fix" is a work-around to AVOID the bug.

 A BIOS upgrade might be needed for Windows since Windows continues to use BIOS functions while it's running, but it's not going to do ANYTHING for LINUX since LINUX does not USE the BIOS for anything past very early initial boot steps, while the bug doesn't start cropping up 'till a much later stage.

 I'm really not sure WHY a BIOS update would be needed though, or how it would work to do anything about working around the bug involved.






Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on January 10, 2018, 01:44:13 AM
a bios update AND os patch is needed on any affected platforms to fix the "Meltdown" and "Spectre" bug.

linux is an affected platform http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-linux-vs-meltdown-and-spectre-battle-continues/


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Alyeska on January 10, 2018, 02:15:41 AM
I have been using this mobo for the last couple of months.

I had no problems with 6 GTX 1070 GPUs. I bought another 3 of the same, and I could only make it work with 8.

I updated BIOS to 0403 and tried to install the 9th, but the hashrate of *all* GPUs dropped to half. Went back to 8 and it works smoothly.

I updated BIOS to 1001 today but the 9th card isn't recognized at all in the BIOS screen. Anybody has tried with more than 8 cards and succeeded?

I am running BIOS 1001 and 12 GTX 1070ti SC Hybrids on the Asus Mining Expert no problem, using two 110 volt power supplies, one 1600 and one 1000 watt both titanium EVGA, GPU's are staggered throughout the three channel banks, I did not limit them to the first two although I am only using two power supplies, in addition I am not plugging any Molex into the 3 AUX channel bank plugins,

 running SMOS boot from USB, with clocks set to 200 core, 1400 memory, 130 watt, drawing a total of 1750 watt at the wall, including all cards and Mobo, trying to stay below 1800 watt due to the smart plug stating it will only pass 15 amp, and I believe going over that ruined one of them for me, and I really like the utility of the smart plug when I am away from home,

current stats on the 12 1070ti's On my Asus B250 Mining Expert using the above settings

GPU2 37C Sol/s: 529.4 Sol/W: 4.05 Avg: 526.2 I/s: 281.5 Sh: 4.91 0.99 223
GPU3 41C Sol/s: 524.8 Sol/W: 4.02 Avg: 521.3 I/s: 278.7 Sh: 6.26 1.00 211
GPU0 39C Sol/s: 528.7 Sol/W: 4.10 Avg: 530.9 I/s: 283.7 Sh: 5.65 1.00 229
GPU4 40C Sol/s: 524.4 Sol/W: 4.04 Avg: 521.5 I/s: 279.3 Sh: 3.90 1.00 283
GPU1 38C Sol/s: 512.6 Sol/W: 4.02 Avg: 520.3 I/s: 278.6 Sh: 5.49 1.00 233
GPU6 42C Sol/s: 521.0 Sol/W: 4.07 Avg: 527.9 I/s: 282.5 Sh: 5.96 1.00 226
GPU5 38C Sol/s: 522.1 Sol/W: 4.07 Avg: 527.1 I/s: 281.8 Sh: 4.39 1.00 215
GPU8 36C Sol/s: 522.9 Sol/W: 4.05 Avg: 523.3 I/s: 280.5 Sh: 4.58 0.98 233
GPU9 40C Sol/s: 530.7 Sol/W: 4.05 Avg: 524.3 I/s: 280.4 Sh: 6.67 1.00 231
GPU7 39C Sol/s: 517.9 Sol/W: 4.07 Avg: 526.9 I/s: 281.9 Sh: 5.82 1.00 234
GPU10 36C Sol/s: 526.1 Sol/W: 4.06 Avg: 525.4 I/s: 280.9 Sh: 4.48 1.00 213
GPU11 40C Sol/s: 521.7 Sol/W: 4.05 Avg: 523.3 I/s: 279.9 Sh: 7.06 1.00 214
========== Sol/s: 6282.3 Sol/W: 4.05 Avg: 6298.4 I/s: 3369.7 Sh: 65.16 1.00 228


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: QuintLeo on January 10, 2018, 08:38:38 PM
a bios update AND os patch is needed on any affected platforms to fix the "Meltdown" and "Spectre" bug.

linux is an affected platform http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-linux-vs-meltdown-and-spectre-battle-continues/

 That article doesn't even mention BIOS at all.
 Do at least READ an article before you attribute things to it that are not there.

 Hint - LINUX "kernel" is NOT a BIOS on a motherboard.
 It's the core of the Operating System itself - kind of like DOS used to be in the Windows 3.x/Windows 95 days.





Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on January 10, 2018, 10:27:54 PM
nop wrong u need bios update for cpu fixed on linuxed.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: QuintLeo on January 11, 2018, 12:00:09 AM
nop wrong u need bios update for cpu fixed on linuxed.

 WHY would you need to update a BIOS that is NOT IN USE AT ALL by the time these bugs CAN be invoked?



Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on January 11, 2018, 01:15:40 AM
bios used by all systeme it caputer.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Raziel666 on January 11, 2018, 08:25:02 AM
I have been using this mobo for the last couple of months.

I had no problems with 6 GTX 1070 GPUs. I bought another 3 of the same, and I could only make it work with 8.

I updated BIOS to 0403 and tried to install the 9th, but the hashrate of *all* GPUs dropped to half. Went back to 8 and it works smoothly.

I updated BIOS to 1001 today but the 9th card isn't recognized at all in the BIOS screen. Anybody has tried with more than 8 cards and succeeded?

I am running BIOS 1001 and 12 GTX 1070ti SC Hybrids on the Asus Mining Expert no problem, using two 110 volt power supplies, one 1600 and one 1000 watt both titanium EVGA, GPU's are staggered throughout the three channel banks, I did not limit them to the first two although I am only using two power supplies, in addition I am not plugging any Molex into the 3 AUX channel bank plugins,

 running SMOS boot from USB, with clocks set to 200 core, 1400 memory, 130 watt, drawing a total of 1750 watt at the wall, including all cards and Mobo, trying to stay below 1800 watt due to the smart plug stating it will only pass 15 amp, and I believe going over that ruined one of them for me, and I really like the utility of the smart plug when I am away from home,

current stats on the 12 1070ti's On my Asus B250 Mining Expert using the above settings

GPU2 37C Sol/s: 529.4 Sol/W: 4.05 Avg: 526.2 I/s: 281.5 Sh: 4.91 0.99 223
GPU3 41C Sol/s: 524.8 Sol/W: 4.02 Avg: 521.3 I/s: 278.7 Sh: 6.26 1.00 211
GPU0 39C Sol/s: 528.7 Sol/W: 4.10 Avg: 530.9 I/s: 283.7 Sh: 5.65 1.00 229
GPU4 40C Sol/s: 524.4 Sol/W: 4.04 Avg: 521.5 I/s: 279.3 Sh: 3.90 1.00 283
GPU1 38C Sol/s: 512.6 Sol/W: 4.02 Avg: 520.3 I/s: 278.6 Sh: 5.49 1.00 233
GPU6 42C Sol/s: 521.0 Sol/W: 4.07 Avg: 527.9 I/s: 282.5 Sh: 5.96 1.00 226
GPU5 38C Sol/s: 522.1 Sol/W: 4.07 Avg: 527.1 I/s: 281.8 Sh: 4.39 1.00 215
GPU8 36C Sol/s: 522.9 Sol/W: 4.05 Avg: 523.3 I/s: 280.5 Sh: 4.58 0.98 233
GPU9 40C Sol/s: 530.7 Sol/W: 4.05 Avg: 524.3 I/s: 280.4 Sh: 6.67 1.00 231
GPU7 39C Sol/s: 517.9 Sol/W: 4.07 Avg: 526.9 I/s: 281.9 Sh: 5.82 1.00 234
GPU10 36C Sol/s: 526.1 Sol/W: 4.06 Avg: 525.4 I/s: 280.9 Sh: 4.48 1.00 213
GPU11 40C Sol/s: 521.7 Sol/W: 4.05 Avg: 523.3 I/s: 279.9 Sh: 7.06 1.00 214
========== Sol/s: 6282.3 Sol/W: 4.05 Avg: 6298.4 I/s: 3369.7 Sh: 65.16 1.00 228

Thanks for your input, greatly appreciated! :)

Can you tell us what CPU/RAM you are using with the 12-GPU combo?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: duyquang06 on January 11, 2018, 09:31:33 AM
Neo,

Why Kabby Lake i5 7400T? Celeron is enough.

Another miner that considers Celeron a fail for 8 GPU builds:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2706707.msg27682795#msg27682795

It's so wrong....


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bigdrago on January 12, 2018, 11:20:22 PM
I think it never will be support 19 normal gpus.
Amd have never said that.
You have to combine it with p106 or p104 which normal people cant buy.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Vann on January 13, 2018, 12:21:42 AM
I think it never will be support 19 normal gpus.
Amd have never said that.
You have to combine it with p106 or p104 which normal people cant buy.

^^This

I don't recall Asus ever said the motherboard would support 19 regular cards. That was just wishful thinking from those that bought the board by taking the driver update Asus referred to for removing the previous 8 card limit to meaning they could use all regular cards with the board. Although Asus did a bad job of making the limitations of the board clear, all the literature said you needed to use mining cards for more than 11 AMD GPU's.


https://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/news/5/8/58834_06_asus-b250-mining-expert-board-support-19-gpus.png



Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bigdrago on January 13, 2018, 09:16:38 AM
From Asus site:

B250 Mining Expert lets you run up to 19* NVIDIA or AMD GPUs in parallel to max out your megahash rates!

* B250 Mining Expert currently supports a total of up to eight NVIDIA and AMD GPUs. An unlimited number of GPUs will be supported following a driver update that is planned for Q4 2017.

And then the driver update came:
https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1034921

Based on the new driver updated from AMD, ASUS proudly announces that B250 MINING EXPERT supports 19x GPU for mining. Comparing with competitors, B250 MINING EXPERT is the world’s 1st MB to support up to 19x GPU.


There is no info about a future bios update that allows people having 19 normal gpu. In my country only business is allowed to buy p106 or p104 in minimum quantity of 100pcs and 3 month warranty.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: QuintLeo on January 13, 2018, 09:02:15 PM
I think it never will be support 19 normal gpus.
Amd have never said that.
You have to combine it with p106 or p104 which normal people cant buy.

 Normal people CAN buy the P106 - they have been listed on NewEgg and Amazon - they're just in very short supply due to high demand and LOW production.

 P104 as far as I know is only just hitting production, and is not widely available yet - it remains to be seen what the production levels of THAT GPU get to.



Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: kgminer on February 15, 2018, 10:04:23 AM
I see this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvbqkv2SgHc

from the video it seems like Nvidia GTX 1060 is same as 106 cards and you can use 8*gtx 1060 + 11*AMD cards to get this motherboard going with 19 GPUs. Anyone got it working in this setup? I have 7 GTX 1060 and would like to use this motherboard. 106 cards are pretty hard to find.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on February 15, 2018, 10:45:34 AM
I think it never will be support 19 normal gpus.
Amd have never said that.
You have to combine it with p106 or p104 which normal people cant buy.

 Normal people CAN buy the P106 - they have been listed on NewEgg and Amazon - they're just in very short supply due to high demand and LOW production.

 P104 as far as I know is only just hitting production, and is not widely available yet - it remains to be seen what the production levels of THAT GPU get to.



they never been listen on newegg, normal ppl never could buy p106....


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: QuintLeo on February 15, 2018, 08:30:47 PM
The P106 hasn't been listed LATELY on Newegg, but they have been in the past.
Gigabyte models as I recall, unfortunately.



Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: kgminer on February 16, 2018, 12:16:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjFP1BfN5Xs

seems like these guys make it work with 13 Asus gtx 1060 + 6*P106

I am planing to give a try and let's see If I can make it work.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: TeeSS on February 16, 2018, 06:16:22 PM
Windows 10 creative fall update "fixed" the 8 GPU limit. I'm running 13 1080ti in same rig, no issues.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on February 16, 2018, 11:56:22 PM
Windows 10 creative fall update "fixed" the 8 GPU limit. I'm running 13 1080ti in same rig, no issues.

fall update makes hashrate 3mh/s all gpu


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: starrbuck on February 17, 2018, 05:37:59 PM
Windows 10 creative fall update "fixed" the 8 GPU limit. I'm running 13 1080ti in same rig, no issues.

fall update makes hashrate 3mh/s all gpu

lolwut?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: kgminer on February 18, 2018, 12:02:09 AM
Windows 10 creative fall update "fixed" the 8 GPU limit. I'm running 13 1080ti in same rig, no issues.

great buy P106 and run 19

here is the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=95&v=DjFP1BfN5Xs



Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: john1010 on February 26, 2018, 01:48:34 PM
I got 13 cards mixed rx 570 gpu, not tested with green gpu (nvidia) I hope that this mobe are capable of handling 15-19 rx series gpu, I dont want to use nvidia.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on February 26, 2018, 02:38:31 PM
I got 13 cards mixed rx 570 gpu, not tested with green gpu (nvidia) I hope that this mobe are capable of handling 15-19 rx series gpu, I dont want to use nvidia.

the mobo is incapable of more then 13 rx gpu. bios update still not here.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: kriskarthik on February 27, 2018, 01:08:29 AM
Yes that sucks. I bought four Mobo $200 each only to find out that it can detect only 13 GPUs. But is that true that we can mix GTX and RX to have all 19 GPUs running ? Anyone tried successfully?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: leowonderful on February 27, 2018, 01:13:59 AM
Yes that sucks. I bought four Mobo $200 each only to find out that it can detect only 13 GPUs. But is that true that we can mix GTX and RX to have all 19 GPUs running ? Anyone tried successfully?
It won't work without the P106 cards. There's no workaround to that to my knowledge as of right now. If you bought it from any major retailer and you don't want to keep the mobo, chances are you'll be able to return it for free.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: john1010 on February 27, 2018, 02:55:49 AM
Yes that sucks. I bought four Mobo $200 each only to find out that it can detect only 13 GPUs. But is that true that we can mix GTX and RX to have all 19 GPUs running ? Anyone tried successfully?
It won't work without the P106 cards. There's no workaround to that to my knowledge as of right now. If you bought it from any major retailer and you don't want to keep the mobo, chances are you'll be able to return it for free.

Is that P106 is the same with 1060? I have no idea with nvidia cards.. I hope that there's new bios update will available to enable this mobo to run 19gpu with the same cards..


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: leowonderful on February 27, 2018, 03:11:14 PM
Yes that sucks. I bought four Mobo $200 each only to find out that it can detect only 13 GPUs. But is that true that we can mix GTX and RX to have all 19 GPUs running ? Anyone tried successfully?
It won't work without the P106 cards. There's no workaround to that to my knowledge as of right now. If you bought it from any major retailer and you don't want to keep the mobo, chances are you'll be able to return it for free.

Is that P106 is the same with 1060? I have no idea with nvidia cards.. I hope that there's new bios update will available to enable this mobo to run 19gpu with the same cards..

Sorry for the slow response, but the P106 is different from the 1060 as it’s a specialized mining card and it won’t work with the board to fill it out. If you want to fill out the boards it’s still possible to buy the P106 cards, but as you likely already know they’re pretty expensive compared to other available GPUs.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: kriskarthik on February 27, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
And it’s comes with a superduper 3 months warranty period ;)


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: nitrobg on February 27, 2018, 03:46:35 PM
P106/104/102 mining cards' bioses can reportedly be modded and reflashed, regular cards are locked. There are no public ways to mod a bios so far, but AFAIK it is being worked on.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: rbrcpa on March 13, 2018, 02:20:37 PM
I have 6 Vega 56’s running on this board.

For some reason anytime one of the GPU overheats and causes the rig to crash, the last slot that I have a GPU plugged into will randomly disable on the restart. I can switch it to another slot...or I can even just kill the power for a second, restart again and the slot lights back up green (it’ll be red when it’s disbaled) and it’s enavled once more.

The problem is that I manage my mining rigs remotely, so manually killing the power is a royal pain as I typically have to drive to the office to do so.

I also have 6 Vegas on an Asus z270-p & 6 on a asrock btc+ board and never have that issue on either of those boards.

I would love to hear that this is a bios setting that I can change but I don’t see anything in the bios that would be causing this to happen. I’m also on the latest version of the bios, I believe.

Has anybody else run into this? Any ideas why the cause might be?  It feels like some kind of protection setting but like I mentioned I don’t see anything in the bios and my google searches have come up blank so far.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on March 13, 2018, 04:54:23 PM
I have 6 Vega 56’s running on this board.

For some reason anytime one of the GPU overheats and causes the rig to crash, the last slot that I have a GPU plugged into will randomly disable on the restart. I can switch it to another slot...or I can even just kill the power for a second, restart again and the slot lights back up green (it’ll be red when it’s disbaled) and it’s enavled once more.

The problem is that I manage my mining rigs remotely, so manually killing the power is a royal pain as I typically have to drive to the office to do so.

I also have 6 Vegas on an Asus z270-p & 6 on a asrock btc+ board and never have that issue on either of those boards.

I would love to hear that this is a bios setting that I can change but I don’t see anything in the bios that would be causing this to happen. I’m also on the latest version of the bios, I believe.

Has anybody else run into this? Any ideas why the cause might be?  It feels like some kind of protection setting but like I mentioned I don’t see anything in the bios and my google searches have come up blank so far.

there are 3 seperate pages where you must change pcie spec to Gen2 instead of the common Gen1. asus b250 mining expert needs gen2 set for some amd cards, most of the time it is not necessary. the most common problem i have had were bad usb cables for risers. i dont know if it is the cause of asus b250, since its the only motherboards i own for mining... but check to see if thats the case. Use 6 known working good risers, and riser usb cables on asus b250 and see if that solves your problems.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: RIGED on April 18, 2018, 10:15:47 PM
do not buy risers with side fed usb pcie link if you are to use this board (photo link below)

the usb cable coming off sideways (instead of vertical) blocks the pcie slots behind it making them inaccessible

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB102UESFXXXXbRXFXXq6xXFXXXg/ITHOO-USB3-0-60CM-PCIE-1X-to-16X-Graphics-Card-Extension-Cable-with-Multi-power-Ports.jpg

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jacking as many gpus on one mobo as possible, im personaly against for numerous reasons that i wont bore you with,
i own 2 asus b250 mining and have 6xvega64 on each running for weeks on end no prob, more than 6 the system is not as stable
using msi z270 tomahawk with a 1to4 pcie adapter to jack 6 vega64 yeilds ok stability but not as good as the asus
tried the Asrock but i must admit my favourite is the Asus as long as its no more than 6 heavy gpus on it.
sorry have no experience with lighter gpus only 64s





Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on April 18, 2018, 10:21:28 PM
do not buy risers with side fed usb pcie link if you are to use this board (photo link below)

the usb cable coming off sideways (instead of vertical) blocks the pcie slots behind it making them inaccessible

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB102UESFXXXXbRXFXXq6xXFXXXg/ITHOO-USB3-0-60CM-PCIE-1X-to-16X-Graphics-Card-Extension-Cable-with-Multi-power-Ports.jpg

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jacking as many gpus on one mobo as possible, im personaly against for numerous reasons that i wont bore you with,
i own 2 asus b250 mining and have 6xvega64 on each running for weeks on end no prob, more than 6 the system is not as stable
using msi z270 tomahawk with a 1to4 pcie adapter to jack 6 vega64 yeilds ok stability but not as good as the asus
tried the Asrock but i must admit my favourite is the Asus as long as its no more than 6 heavy gpus on it.
sorry have no experience with lighter gpus only 64s





these boards only really shine with rx570/580 and 1060's
its really tough to get more then 8gpu on one system!


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Permonik on April 19, 2018, 09:33:37 PM
do not buy risers with side fed usb pcie link if you are to use this board (photo link below)

the usb cable coming off sideways (instead of vertical) blocks the pcie slots behind it making them inaccessible

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB102UESFXXXXbRXFXXq6xXFXXXg/ITHOO-USB3-0-60CM-PCIE-1X-to-16X-Graphics-Card-Extension-Cable-with-Multi-power-Ports.jpg

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jacking as many gpus on one mobo as possible, im personaly against for numerous reasons that i wont bore you with,
i own 2 asus b250 mining and have 6xvega64 on each running for weeks on end no prob, more than 6 the system is not as stable
using msi z270 tomahawk with a 1to4 pcie adapter to jack 6 vega64 yeilds ok stability but not as good as the asus
tried the Asrock but i must admit my favourite is the Asus as long as its no more than 6 heavy gpus on it.
sorry have no experience with lighter gpus only 64s





these boards only really shine with rx570/580 and 1060's
its really tough to get more then 8gpu on one system!
It is quite easy I running 10x rx vega 64 on this board...


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: remauto1187ma on April 20, 2018, 02:47:08 AM
Im running 13 GPUs on one B250 ME M/B.  (2) 1080, (4) 1060 and (7) 1050 TI. Thats Rig2.  Rig1 currently has 9 GPU's.  (4) RX 580 (1) RX 570 (1) RX 470 (1) RX 560 (1) 1050TI and (1) 1060.  They are stupid easy to setup.  Patience and install one card and its driver one at a time.  Reboot and verify before shutdown and installing the next GPU.  Im running Windows 10 Pro. G3300 CPU (2) 4gb memory 2133 and 120gb ssd.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Metroid on May 09, 2018, 01:16:11 PM
Any hope or info Asus will realease a BIOS update to allow to use 19 Identical GPUs (RX580) ?

Forget asus, you need to hope the competition will do, if the competition does then the asus does.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on May 31, 2018, 10:29:37 AM
still waiting for that Q4 2017 update...


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on July 23, 2018, 08:27:08 AM
Still
Waiting.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on September 06, 2018, 04:38:07 AM
Hey guys is it q4 2017 yet? No? Ah alright let me know when it is so they can release the bios update already.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on June 21, 2019, 02:19:00 PM
6/21/2019

still no 19 gpu bios update, im on latest 2000+

thanks for nothing asus...


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bigdrago on June 21, 2019, 03:08:56 PM
6/21/2019

still no 19 gpu bios update, im on latest 2000+

thanks for nothing asus...

Lol? U can use 13 regular and 6 mining cards.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on June 21, 2019, 07:40:35 PM
6/21/2019

still no 19 gpu bios update, im on latest 2000+

thanks for nothing asus...

Lol? U can use 13 regular and 6 mining cards.

they promised both in the manual and on their website 19 regular cards with a "future" bios update. without the need for mining cards.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Johny101010 on June 21, 2019, 08:08:34 PM
6/21/2019

still no 19 gpu bios update, im on latest 2000+

thanks for nothing asus...

Lol? U can use 13 regular and 6 mining cards.

they promised both in the manual and on their website 19 regular cards with a "future" bios update. without the need for mining cards.

This MoBo is a pain even with about 12 cards. Puting a card on the x16 slot slows it down if more than 4 cards attached a lot.
Also the cards disaper on reboot randomly. You have to unplug and replug the riser to be green again.
It's a great idea for the board just horrible finished product.


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Bigdrago on June 21, 2019, 08:20:04 PM
6/21/2019

still no 19 gpu bios update, im on latest 2000+

thanks for nothing asus...

Lol? U can use 13 regular and 6 mining cards.

they promised both in the manual and on their website 19 regular cards with a "future" bios update. without the need for mining cards.

This MoBo is a pain even with about 12 cards. Puting a card on the x16 slot slows it down if more than 4 cards attached a lot.
Also the cards disaper on reboot randomly. You have to unplug and replug the riser to be green again.
It's a great idea for the board just horrible finished product.

Strange. I have 3x motherboards with each 13gpu. No problems


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Michail9090 on June 21, 2019, 09:03:35 PM
Im running 13 GPUs on one B250 ME M/B.  (2) 1080, (4) 1060 and (7) 1050 TI. Thats Rig2.  Rig1 currently has 9 GPU's.  (4) RX 580 (1) RX 570 (1) RX 470 (1) RX 560 (1) 1050TI and (1) 1060.  They are stupid easy to setup.  Patience and install one card and its driver one at a time.  Reboot and verify before shutdown and installing the next GPU.  Im running Windows 10 Pro. G3300 CPU (2) 4gb memory 2133 and 120gb ssd.
well a lot of graphics cards don't understand how you can connect, I have a similar motherboard was a maximum of 8 pieces where you can still stick 5 pieces?! recently, mining has suspended and sold the farm, and now regret it. after all, cryptocurrency is growing


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: Johny101010 on June 21, 2019, 10:08:36 PM
6/21/2019

still no 19 gpu bios update, im on latest 2000+

thanks for nothing asus...

Lol? U can use 13 regular and 6 mining cards.

they promised both in the manual and on their website 19 regular cards with a "future" bios update. without the need for mining cards.

This MoBo is a pain even with about 12 cards. Puting a card on the x16 slot slows it down if more than 4 cards attached a lot.
Also the cards disaper on reboot randomly. You have to unplug and replug the riser to be green again.
It's a great idea for the board just horrible finished product.

Strange. I have 3x motherboards with each 13gpu. No problems
I have 3 also. 2 with 10 and 1 with 12 running hive os.
What os are you using? Do you have a gpu on the x16 slot?


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on June 21, 2019, 11:41:43 PM
i have no problems with this board with 13 cards, might be your risers if you have trouble. just wish they wouldn't lie about a non existent bios update  :-\


Title: Re: ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT bios 403 (2017/12/15) released?
Post by: wtfonly16 on February 24, 2021, 10:36:50 PM
hello am from future, 2/24/2021

still no promised bios update that enables more then 13 cards.