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Title: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on July 25, 2013, 08:58:15 AM
Colorado seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati (Bilderberg Group) also known as the U.S.A.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdRIDCQ9y-8&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLKkSfhYk-XBip3ohjp2vBNJ18zVsoL7Lz

The Devil worshipers cult illuminati Rejects Petitions to Secede, but Texans Fight On
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/16/us/politics/texas-secession-movement-unbowed-by-white-house-rejection.html?_r=0

10 Movements to Secede from the United States
http://www.cascadianow.org/about-cascadia/in-the-press/10-movements-to-secede-from-the-united-states/

Petitions to secede are filed for 23 states since election
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/12/petitions-to-secede-are-filed-for-23-states-since-/?page=all

Vermont Passes Resolution To Secede From The US
http://rense.com/general68/secede.htm

Colorado forming 51st state.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/time-51st-state-colorado-thinks-092556153.html

Ten Colorado counties would like to ditch the rest of the state Colorado
http://www.westword.com/2013-08-08/news/secession-of-colorado-counties/

Northern California County Board Votes For Secession From State
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/09/04/northern-california-county-board-votes-for-secession-from-state/

5 Maryland counties want to seceed from the Devil worshipers cult illuminati (Bilderberg Group)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxtkAFNGmYo

Modoc County joins Siskiyou in state of Jefferson bid for secession
http://www.redding.com/news/2013/sep/24/modoc-county-joins-siskiyou-bid-secession/

Plan to divide California into 6 states advances
http://news.yahoo.com/plan-divide-california-6-states-advances-003356451.html?vp=1

Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: TheGovernedSelf on July 25, 2013, 09:39:55 AM
Maybe... if they all do it at once.


I think we're kind of seeing a soft secession with nullification, bitcoin, and general noncompliance.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: J603 on July 25, 2013, 03:20:28 PM
Maybe... if they all do it at once.


I think we're kind of seeing a soft secession with nullification, bitcoin, and general noncompliance.

If every state seceded at once what would the point be? Most would be just be a bunch of weak nation-states, prone to collapse or invasion. California or New York are the only ones that I could see successfully seceding, as they are major players on the world stage already.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: TECSHARE on July 25, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
That's cause they all hate Niggers.

Do we really need to add racist to the list of stupid shit attributed to Bitcoiners? FFS the OP alone is doing a good enough job making the forum, the ideas presented, and himself look like a joke. BTW I agree that a lot of the OPs subject matters need attention, but the sensationalist borderline bullshit presentations you deliver them with are counter productive, and make anyone else arguing those points look moronic by association. Please find a way to communicate your ideas without the layer of bullshit shellacked over perfectly good topics. I would appreciate it if you would stop poisoning the well, we drink from there.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: greyhawk on July 25, 2013, 03:32:43 PM
Is Nigeria even in the US?  ???


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: J603 on July 25, 2013, 03:50:07 PM
Is Nigeria even in the US?  ???

No, of course not. He was referring to citizens of Niger, which is located within Texas.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on August 10, 2013, 07:57:38 PM
Ten Colorado counties would like to ditch the rest of the state Colorado
 (own by the terrorist organization illuminati aka the Bilderberg Group).

http://www.westword.com/2013-08-08/news/secession-of-colorado-counties/


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: sal002 on August 20, 2013, 09:47:10 PM
Ten Colorado counties would like to ditch the rest of the state Colorado
 (own by the terrorist organization illuminati aka the Bilderberg Group).

http://www.westword.com/2013-08-08/news/secession-of-colorado-counties/

Actually, ten counties that don't understand republican democracy want to leave Colorado because, well, they are whiners and when they fail at the ballot box, they look to other measures.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: Katrina Elisse Caudle on August 20, 2013, 10:22:27 PM
I never thought I'd agree with Texas about anything but...

Quote
"Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States ‘in order to form a more perfect union’ through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government,” Mr. Carson wrote. “They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot — a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it.

 Mr. Carson was answering secession petitions filed by residents of Texas, Louisiana, Alabama and five other states, as well as one counterpetition seeking the deportation of everyone who signed a secession petition.

The communications director for the Texas Nationalist Movement, Jeff Sadighi, shrugged off the White House response and pointed to a section of the State Constitution that says Texans have the right “to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.” 

It does makes sense. Collectively, a lot of us want to make serious changes to our government based on our changing culture (ie: Bitcoin!). Free will is awesome, but the catch is everyone gets it.  ::)


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: sal002 on August 20, 2013, 10:29:17 PM


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The communications director for the Texas Nationalist Movement, Jeff Sadighi, shrugged off the White House response and pointed to a section of the State Constitution that says Texans have the right “to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.” 



Me thinks Mr. Sadighi doesn't really understand the US system of government if he believes a state constitutional provision granting the right to change that states constitution (effectively) grants rights to a significant minority to pull that said state out of the union because they happen to dislike the results of a republican democracy.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on August 21, 2013, 05:00:35 AM
Northern Coloradans to vote on creating new state...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/19/colorado-counties-vote-forming-new-state/


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: Elwar on August 21, 2013, 04:04:08 PM
Perhaps all of the states should secede and then form a new country without Washington.

That way, Washington keeps the $17 trillion debt and the new country has no debt and can start fresh.

The new country can use the Constitution and go from there.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: sal002 on August 21, 2013, 04:23:46 PM
Northern Coloradans to vote on creating new state...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/19/colorado-counties-vote-forming-new-state/

Their main complaint is that their vote doesn't count, effectively, because the down state counties are more populous.  This is laughable. 

Although, I can understand if they are considered about disproportionate representation, as compared to being drowned out.  I mean in the US House of Representatives, which is supposed to be a proportionate body, 52% of the people voting for a representative in the last election voted for the political party which represents 47% of the House, while 48% voted for the party that represents 53% of the House.  We can't seem to understand proportionality at the national level.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: Elwar on August 21, 2013, 04:29:17 PM
We can't seem to understand proportionality at the national level.

Republics are not supposed to be proportional.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: sal002 on August 21, 2013, 04:57:56 PM
We can't seem to understand proportionality at the national level.

Republics are not supposed to be proportional.

House of Representatives is.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: sal002 on August 21, 2013, 06:34:41 PM


Vermont Passes Resolution To Secede From The US
http://rense.com/general68/secede.htm

Ha!  Since that was awhile ago, perhaps the OP would also be pointing to newspaper articles from the 1800s announcing the succession of former member states of the CSA...almost the same timeliness.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on September 05, 2013, 05:46:12 PM
Northern California County Board Votes For Secession From State
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/09/04/northern-california-county-board-votes-for-secession-from-state/


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: sal002 on September 05, 2013, 05:59:16 PM
Northern California County Board Votes For Secession From State
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/09/04/northern-california-county-board-votes-for-secession-from-state/

Erik Cartman is now on northern county board.  Love these people (all 10 of them) who fail to understand our system of government.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on September 25, 2013, 06:22:34 AM
Modoc County joins Siskiyou in state of Jefferson bid for secession
http://www.redding.com/news/2013/sep/24/modoc-county-joins-siskiyou-bid-secession/


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: Reaper3 on September 25, 2013, 03:08:26 PM
The things people want to believe...


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: hayek on September 26, 2013, 05:48:10 PM
Actually, ten counties that don't understand republican democracy want to leave Colorado because, well, they are whiners and when they fail at the ballot box, they look to other measures.

Oh, well, obviously being bound by a document signed by 20 or so people hundreds of years ago has the ability to endow a ballot box with magical fairy powers of just righteousness. Maybe those ignorant swine in Colorado just don't understand how good they have it.

I mean, my god, just imagine if they were forced to be responsible for themselves instead of having a person who never met them before look out for their interests.

TERRIFYING


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: sal002 on September 26, 2013, 07:55:50 PM
Actually, ten counties that don't understand republican democracy want to leave Colorado because, well, they are whiners and when they fail at the ballot box, they look to other measures.

Oh, well, obviously being bound by a document signed by 20 or so people hundreds of years ago has the ability to endow a ballot box with magical fairy powers of just righteousness. Maybe those ignorant swine in Colorado just don't understand how good they have it.

I mean, my god, just imagine if they were forced to be responsible for themselves instead of having a person who never met them before look out for their interests.

TERRIFYING

Although I know that was snark, it is terrifying, if what you are proposing is no central authority whatsoever.  All this succession talk is really people upset that they can't convince their fellow citizens of the rightness of their ways so they look for ways outside the democratic process to get what they want.  It is the equivalent of taking their toys and going home. 

It is the nature of a republican democracy that the actions of the government are NOT what ever citizen living in the democracy wants.  However, as we currently have in place, restrictions abound to protect that minority from undue oppression.  If that is what they are concerned with in those counties, instead of being children they can seriously push for additional protections.  They aren't doing that.  


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on February 21, 2014, 05:16:43 PM
Plan to divide California into 6 states advances
http://news.yahoo.com/plan-divide-california-6-states-advances-003356451.html?vp=1


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: Duane Vick on February 22, 2014, 05:58:42 AM
We are not a democracy, we are a republic. Learn the difference.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." US Declaration of Independence

These secession attempts are people that feel that our current governments are destructive towards their rights. When that happens, you can try to alter it or abolish it. That is what is happening here. Since the Declaration of Independence is the root of our nation, the US should recognize that the course of action taken by it should be a valid course of action for those within its jurisdiction. Try reading it for understanding. Here is a link: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html (http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html) It is basically a giant list of gripes we had with England's rule. How many of those same gripes apply today to our current governments, both at state and federal levels? Several.




Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on March 01, 2014, 01:21:17 AM
Venture capitalist wants six, smaller California states
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvvF5coIftM


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on March 25, 2014, 04:44:13 PM
BREAKING NEWS:
Alaska wants to seceed from the Terrorist organization Illuminati (aka The U.S.A.)
Alaska back to Russia.

Groups Siberian russians crossed the Isthmus (now the Bering Strait) 16-10 thousand years ago.
Russian began to settle on the Arctic coast, Aleuts inhabited the Aleutian Archipelago.
First visited Alaska August 21, 1732, members of the team boat "St. Gabriel »under the surveyor Gvozdev and assistant navigator I. Fedorov during the expedition Shestakov and DI Pavlutski 1729-1735 years

Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN

Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=528309.0


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on June 21, 2014, 09:53:49 PM
Advocates of splitting California into six states gathering signatures
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-petition-drive-underway-to-split-california-into-six-states-20140621-story.html


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on July 15, 2014, 04:42:29 PM
'Six Californias' plan to carve up state may make 2016 ballot
http://www.freep.com/article/20140715/NEWS07/307150087/-Six-Californias-plan


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on February 19, 2015, 10:48:49 PM
Former Republican presidential candidate and congressman Ron Paul says secession is happening and it’s “good news.” Paul later predicted the states would stop listening to federal laws.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ron-paul-good-news-that-secession-is-happening#.usRVDQNX8


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on July 19, 2015, 09:41:11 PM

Expert: States Should Secede
Power must come from the local level

http://www.infowars.com/expert-states-should-secede/

http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/secede.jpg


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on November 09, 2016, 10:07:42 PM
#Calexit: California want to leave the US after Donald Trump’s election win

Read more:
 http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/09/calexit-california-want-to-leave-the-us-after-donald-trumps-election-win-6245665/#ixzz4PYHc0qXD


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A.
Post by: TheButterZone on November 09, 2016, 11:29:07 PM
#Calexit: California want to leave the US after Donald Trump’s election win

Read more:
 http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/09/calexit-california-want-to-leave-the-us-after-donald-trumps-election-win-6245665/#ixzz4PYHc0qXD

California.gov already did, infringing all human rights with impunity.


Title: Re: States seceding from the terrorist organization illuminati aka U.S.A. corp.
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on November 11, 2016, 05:54:43 AM

Oregonians submit ballot proposal to secede from the union
http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/11/after_trump_victory_oregonians.html