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Title: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: The Goat Master on July 27, 2013, 01:48:44 AM
Intro
The Goat Master says hello and would like you to determine if this is a good computing rig.  Thank you for your input!  ;D ;D

Items!

A cool server motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131861 with dual LGA 2011 slots and 6x 16x PCIe slots

1x XEON: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117272

1x i7: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229

!! Will two different CPUs work? !!

Solid State Boot Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820248015, 480 GB, SATA III

2x Sapphire 7950 GPUs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202003 - It has the best cost to hash ratio (for some occasional mining) and also is enough for great graphics.  May add more if needed.

PSU: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007W5TV6K, 1600 Watts

Cooling: http://www.corsair.com/us/hydro-series-h80i-high-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler.html - LIQUID COOLING! :D
            http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-Computer-R4-L2R-20AC-GP/dp/B0026ZPFCK/ - Regular CPU Fans
            http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233080 - Hard Drive Cooler

Powered Risers:  http://buyahash.com/products-6/product-details/#cid=194172
-is there a better place to buy these?

Thank you for the feedback once again, and baaAA!


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: smeagol on July 27, 2013, 01:52:41 AM
Hey everyone!  I am the GOAT master!  BAAA!

I was trying to get into the mining business, but GPU mining is pretty much dead now.. At the moment I'm just trying to build to most TRICKED OUT computer I can.  Tell me what you think about it, and whether all the parts will be compatible!  (I'm really new to this).

Prices and items

Seagate Barracuda LP ST32000542AS 2TB 5900 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5” Hard Drive, currently $117.80
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8198958
4x Sapphire AMD Radeon 7950 Graphics Card, currently $269.99 each
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026
Intel Core i7-3820 CPU, currently $299.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard, currently $415.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131802
4x 8 GB of RAM (more or less, up to 64 GB), about $120-$140
you can find some practically anywhere
LEPA G Series 1600-Watts ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready Crossfire 80 Plus Gold Certified Full Modular 240-Pin 1700 Power Supply, currently $280.49
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007W5TV6K
Powered Risers ($9 each)
http://buyahash.com/products-6/product-details/#cid=194172

Thank you so much!  :)
BaaaaaAA!

I think your PSU can supply enough power, but you probably need a case.
check this guy's rig out! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7216.2260


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: smeagol on July 27, 2013, 02:05:41 AM
Also you need cooling, somebody's rig caught fire because of high temps.
For cooling try liquid cooling (H80i)
http://www.corsair.com/us/hydro-series-h80i-high-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler.html
$86.99 on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181031

Of not you can use a regular fan, which is 10x cheaper, literally:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-Computer-R4-L2R-20AC-GP/dp/B0026ZPFCK/
($8.53)

or an industrial box fan
http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-3723-20-Inch-Premium-3-SPEED/dp/B000HHJ2I2
$24.93


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: cp1 on July 27, 2013, 02:10:44 AM
Change the HD to a WD black and add an SSD.  Take out a couple of the video cards.


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: initforthemoney on July 27, 2013, 02:30:10 AM
Should invest in a decent SSD instead of going for a high end processor that won't do you any good in mining anyway, and get an efficient low watt CPU instead...win-win.


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: cp1 on July 27, 2013, 02:36:15 AM
If I read it right he's not using it for mining anyway.


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: TheSwede75 on July 27, 2013, 02:37:06 AM
Tricked out? Where is the hardware SSD Raid-6? Where is the water blocks for CPU/GPU?


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: crazyates on July 27, 2013, 03:05:55 AM
Tricked out? Where is the hardware SSD Raid-6? Where is the water blocks for CPU/GPU?
Lol I agree. With the exception of the 4 GPUs (which is pretty standard for a mining rig), there's nothing that really screams "EXTREME RIG!"

Where ARE those SSDs? I wanna see a waterblock for the GPU, CPU, and even the chipset! I don't need no fancy lighted fans or case that looks like it came out of a homemade anime. What monitor(s) are you gonna use?

Either build a REALLY nice mining rig, or build a REALLY nice gaming rig, but don't half-ass both and call it the best of both.


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: Starlightbreaker on July 27, 2013, 04:55:39 AM
that's...not a supacomputah.

that's a decent rig.


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: cp1 on July 27, 2013, 05:13:26 AM
Yeah you should at least have dual Xeons.


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: miningatnight on July 27, 2013, 05:27:14 AM
I expected much more when i saw SUPA :(.  And do look at psu, even that i doubt can power if your doing alt coins on cards.


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: crazyates on July 27, 2013, 05:46:28 AM
Yeah you should at least have dual Xeons.
Dual Xeons is for pansies. I want my Quad 16core Opterons! 64 cores in one rig.


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: cp1 on July 27, 2013, 06:12:07 AM
Yeah you should at least have dual Xeons.
Dual Xeons is for pansies. I want my Quad 16core Opterons! 64 cores in one rig.

Yeah it's nice saying you've got a lot of cores, but most times you're better off having multiple xeon nodes instead.


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: xjack on July 27, 2013, 10:49:38 AM
Cut your mobo budget by more than half and have more to pick from running LGA 1155.  

3770k is only $20 more than the 3820 and will easily oc 4.4ghz with proper cooling.

64GB is a waste unless you're using software that can utilize it.  I run a fairly resource hoggy CAD that can't burn up 16GB with Photoshop running in the background.

Same with four 79xx.  Drop two cards and then resize the power supply.  Lose the risers and get a case if you're not mining with it.

edit - I really like Seagate hard drives, but that turd is not a boot disk.  You should be looking ssd or 7200rpm disk.

If you want it supa - come back when you're liquid cooling a 4770k to 5ghz, 15krpm SAS Raid, Radeon 8xxx, etc.


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: Soros Shorts on July 27, 2013, 11:38:22 AM
64GB is a waste unless you're using software that can utilize it.  I run a fairly resource hoggy CAD that can't burn up 16GB with Photoshop running in the background.
Ir you are looking for ideas, a data mining application build using SQL Server Enterprise with Full Text Search enabled will easily burn through 512GB of RAM and bog down 64 cores.


Title: Re: I'm building a SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: The Goat Master on July 27, 2013, 01:07:04 PM
64GB is a waste unless you're using software that can utilize it.  I run a fairly resource hoggy CAD that can't burn up 16GB with Photoshop running in the background.
Ir you are looking for ideas, a data mining application build using SQL Server Enterprise with Full Text Search enabled will easily burn through 512GB of RAM and bog down 64 cores.

OP edited with suggestions!  Is it supa?  Or still only semi supa?

Maybe more GPUs?


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: HellDiverUK on July 27, 2013, 02:33:48 PM
4 GPU is pointless if you're not mining.  2x 7970 (or whatever) is good enough for games at high res with all the stuff turned on.


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: miningatnight on July 27, 2013, 02:34:41 PM
Love that u edited title lol.  It is a nice rig setup.


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: DobZombie on July 27, 2013, 02:47:28 PM
Your e-peen goes pew pew!

 :)


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: Ytterbium on July 27, 2013, 05:45:48 PM
If you really want an epic machine, look at the server board section on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Server-Motherboards/SubCategory/ID-302

So, for example here's a board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131861 with dual LGA 2011 slots and 6x 16x PCIe slots

Slap two of these chips in there: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117272

And you'll have 16 cores at 3.8 Ghz Unfortunately each of those chips is $1.9k a peice.

On the other hand, if you go AMD you can get much lower cost chips.  So for example here (http://amzn.com/B009QFJ8LC) is an 8 core, 3.1Ghz chip for $345, which you could slap on this board (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131670).  Unfortunately it only has 2x 16x PCI express slots though. But definitely cheaper then intel in terms of CPU strength.

(although remember Intel does more per core then AMD, so an 8x Intel will be about as fast as 16x AMD cores - but probably much more expensive)


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: smeagol on July 28, 2013, 12:53:11 PM
If you really want an epic machine, look at the server board section on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Server-Motherboards/SubCategory/ID-302

So, for example here's a board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131861 with dual LGA 2011 slots and 6x 16x PCIe slots

Slap two of these chips in there: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117272

And you'll have 16 cores at 3.8 Ghz Unfortunately each of those chips is $1.9k a peice.

On the other hand, if you go AMD you can get much lower cost chips.  So for example here (http://amzn.com/B009QFJ8LC) is an 8 core, 3.1Ghz chip for $345, which you could slap on this board (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131670).  Unfortunately it only has 2x 16x PCI express slots though. But definitely cheaper then intel in terms of CPU strength.

(although remember Intel does more per core then AMD, so an 8x Intel will be about as fast as 16x AMD cores - but probably much more expensive)

1.9k?  i thought they were only 1.4
"only"  :)


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: The Goat Master on July 28, 2013, 12:55:22 PM
1.9k?  i thought they were only 1.4
"only"  :)
expensive!!!!   :o

If you really want an epic machine, look at the server board section on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Server-Motherboards/SubCategory/ID-302

So, for example here's a board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131861 with dual LGA 2011 slots and 6x 16x PCIe slots

Slap two of these chips in there: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117272

And you'll have 16 cores at 3.8 Ghz Unfortunately each of those chips is $1.9k a peice.

On the other hand, if you go AMD you can get much lower cost chips.  So for example here (http://amzn.com/B009QFJ8LC) is an 8 core, 3.1Ghz chip for $345, which you could slap on this board (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131670).  Unfortunately it only has 2x 16x PCI express slots though. But definitely cheaper then intel in terms of CPU strength.

(although remember Intel does more per core then AMD, so an 8x Intel will be about as fast as 16x AMD cores - but probably much more expensive)

With 2 GPUs how much wattage do you think that would use?
And how bout with 4?  If I want to mine too!

btw, thanks!
I love rare earth elements!


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: polarhei on July 28, 2013, 03:05:50 PM
Hey everyone!  I am the GOAT master!  BAAA!

I was trying to get into the mining business, but GPU mining is pretty much dead now.. At the moment I'm just trying to build to most TRICKED OUT computer I can (that isn't super expensive).  Tell me what you think about it, and whether all the parts will be compatible!  (I'm really new to this).

Prices and items

Seagate Barracuda LP ST32000542AS 2TB 5900 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5” Hard Drive, currently $117.80
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8198958

Actually will get a SSD instead.

4x Sapphire AMD Radeon 7950 Graphics Card, currently $269.99 each
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026
Intel Core i7-3820 CPU, currently $299.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229

Dual xeons?

ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard, currently $415.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131802
4x 8 GB of RAM (more or less, up to 64 GB), about $120-$140
you can find some practically anywhere
LEPA G Series 1600-Watts ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready Crossfire 80 Plus Gold Certified Full Modular 240-Pin 1700 Power Supply, currently $280.49
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007W5TV6K
Powered Risers ($9 each)
http://buyahash.com/products-6/product-details/#cid=194172

Thank you so much!  :)
BaaaaaAA!

The list is so naive if you like to do bigger. Perhaps the configuration is okay if in scrypt mining. I think, the timing may be bad idea unless you use your stuff to test something out.


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: smeagol on July 28, 2013, 03:09:25 PM
Here, try this setup. (based on ytterbium's)


Server Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131861 with dual LGA 2011 slots and 6x 16x PCIe slots

Xeons if you can afford them: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117272

i7 CPUs as a lower cost alternative: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229

try this ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820248015 (480 gb, sata iii)

2x for gaming, 4x for some mining, Sapphire 7950 GPUs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202003 for best cost to mhash for mining as well as for gaming

your PSU looks good I think. (this one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007W5TV6K)  1600 watts seems to be enough, maybe even more than enough

cooling: http://www.corsair.com/us/hydro-series-h80i-high-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler.html (liquid cooling if you have the money)

regular fans, which are cheaper. http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-Computer-R4-L2R-20AC-GP/dp/B0026ZPFCK/

hard drive cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233080

and if you really want a tricked out setup: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800888036   ;D






Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: peonminer on July 29, 2013, 03:48:12 PM
YAI you using such expensive parts? If its a mining rig don't "trick" it out unnecessarily


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: The Goat Master on July 29, 2013, 09:19:06 PM
YAI you using such expensive parts? If its a mining rig don't "trick" it out unnecessarily

its for gaming, computing, and some mining!  :) :D


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: xjack on July 29, 2013, 10:28:37 PM
cooling: http://www.corsair.com/us/hydro-series-h80i-high-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler.html (liquid cooling if you have the money)

Vouch.  Easy to install, setup, and runs really quiet.  Mine has been running since January and does not groan, growl, or make any noise.  Watch the threads on the rad, they are not well tapped and absolutely will strip out if you go 1/4 turn too far.

I put some hideously ugly Noctua's on the H80.  I put the Corsair fans on my mining rig, plugged into a molex they move a _lot_ of air for a 120mm.


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: m5 on July 30, 2013, 06:31:35 AM
!! Will two different CPUs work? !!
No.
Every 2 (or 4) socket system must use exactly the same CPUs. One of the reasons is that both CPUs must have access to all memory and must be able in-validate each other's cache data.


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: r00t$ on July 30, 2013, 03:24:02 PM

and if you really want a tricked out setup: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800888036   ;D


THIS. Because it can't be SUPA without some green LED's  :D


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: x^2 on July 31, 2013, 09:36:18 PM

and if you really want a tricked out setup: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800888036   ;D


THIS. Because it can't be SUPA without some green LED's  :D

Yes, LOL


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: fiktionist on August 02, 2013, 11:41:45 PM
(although remember Intel does more per core then AMD, so an 8x Intel will be about as fast as 16x AMD cores - but probably much more expensive)

sadly thats just true on multithreaded integer operations (xeon e5-4650 vs opteron 6386SE - 3000€ vs 1400€)

if we are talking about single threaded integer operations the xeon is nearly twice as fast as the opteron.

in nearly every other operation the xeon is 20-40% faster than the opteron.


EDIT: AND Core i7 dont support Multi CPU Enviroments. If you want more than one CPU, you need Xeons :)


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: Giodark on August 04, 2013, 12:50:31 PM
@The Goat Master
 How much does it cost to you, and what crypto are you going to mine?


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: skleven on August 07, 2013, 05:49:19 AM
I see all this talk about SATA III SSD`s. If you are going big, why not go for a PCI-e OCZ Revodrive? At least two times faster than any SATA SSD. :)


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: Ytterbium on August 07, 2013, 08:13:37 AM
I see all this talk about SATA III SSD`s. If you are going big, why not go for a PCI-e OCZ Revodrive? At least two times faster than any SATA SSD. :)

Presumably he needs all the PCI slots for GPUs.


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: smeagol on August 08, 2013, 02:09:19 AM
I see all this talk about SATA III SSD`s. If you are going big, why not go for a PCI-e OCZ Revodrive? At least two times faster than any SATA SSD. :)

So that can fit into a gpu slot?

That's pretty sweet!


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: The Goat Master on August 08, 2013, 09:00:21 PM
@The Goat Master
 How much does it cost to you, and what crypto are you going to mine?

I'm probably going to use coinchoose and mine at middlecoin or multipool


Title: Re: I'm building a (semi)SUPACOMPUTAH!!!! :D
Post by: The Goat Master on August 08, 2013, 09:02:51 PM
I see all this talk about SATA III SSD`s. If you are going big, why not go for a PCI-e OCZ Revodrive? At least two times faster than any SATA SSD. :)

Is it really true that it's two times faster?
If I used a couple of PCIe splitters so I can run 4 GPUs as well as one (or two, if I need to dual boot) of those, how much extra voltage would I use?
(do those use as much energy as a GPU)