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This is not a propaganda, just calling it like it is for the sake of people who are less informed.

I'll leave propaganda to the likes of Ver who, 6 months before Mt Gox went bust, shamelessly took a payment to promote it and vouch for its solvency. The guy is a felon and shill-monger, plain and simple, always has been.

As for Jihan, the only reason he announced Bcash fork is to centralize the Bitcoin name and become the Chairman Mao (Zedong) of Bitcoin. I'm not even going to waste my breath talking about the conman, fake Satoshi, Craig Wright.

Sometimes, when calling out propagandists, you tend to come across as promoting one yourself. This is unavoidable but a spade is a spade.

Dissension, splits motivated by greed inevitably leads to the proverbial tragedy of the commons. We either all win or we all lose.

To the newbies - Don't listen to people who try to drive a wedge between the community to line their own pockets.

There are so many altcoins out there now and each of them has such outstanding, unique, non-cloned value proposition. Some of them are even energy-efficient which is a long-term threat they pose Bitcoin if Bitcoin doesn't adapt and evolve. Sure, a lot of them were developed from bitcoin source code but NONE of them shamelessly jack the Bitcoin name.

Bcash is a minority miner centralized coin with majority control in Bitmain's hands. The ONLY 'value proposition' they have is, "Bitcoin is no longer good for payments due to high fee and chock-full mempool."

I'm sorry but that ain't good enough. Before Bitcoin became so big, it was the same with no fees and fast transactions. You can't say "we're the future because we're where Bitcoin was 5 years ago."

Bcash will run into the same problems if the network ever gets as big as Bitcoin's, which it never will. NOBODY except Bitcoin has run into Bitcoin's problems because they're millions of miles away from having a network as big.

Bitcoin has SegWit which makes off-chain scaling(Lightning Network) with ZERO fees and instant transactions possible, Bcash has no SegWit. Bcash has nothing original going and never will. They even said they would just predictably copy Bitcoin's SegWit and implement off-chain scaling themselves after forking the chain supposedly IN OPPOSITION to SegWit. How ironical and self-contradicting is that?

After Lightning goes live on Bitcoin, the likes of Ethereum, IOTA, Litecoin, ADA etc. will still have their own original chains with unique value propositions but Bcash's only 'untested' claim to usefulness will be redundant.

A word to the wise...

Unless you are a sock puppet, which I don't really blame anyone for being, just don't get sucker punched by baleful propaganda orchestrated by individuals motivated solely by self-interest.

Being a sheep is worse than being a sock puppet.



Bitcoin Judas - https://youtu.be/UP1YsMlrfF0

The Real Satoshi - https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/943919997067264000

Why has it got to be "either/or", why can't they co-exist?

Newb here. Good read, good post, thanks OP.

Let me make it clear. I don't 'want' bcash to die but they have nothing else going for them. They cloned an altcoin with the express intent to FUD and attack Bitcoin. Their only spiel is "we have low fee transactions", which every single altcoin out there does. None of them have a network to speak of.

Until Lightning gets launched, they are going to keep rinsing and repeating the dose of attacking the network with spam transactions, manipulating hashrate around difficulty retarget periods and highlighting the mempool.

All of that notwishstanding, simple question. Why do we even need a centralized blockchain anyway?

Rodger Ver is a businiess man. He sweeped his BTC for BCH and want others to buy BCH so he gets rich. He talks like there are only BTC and BCH in existence what we will do for better performing altcoins if we talk in speed of transactions and fees - dogecoin, litecoin, ethereum, dash and many others you name it that simply outperform BTC and BCH together.

We can now see how influential people "crypto celebrities" if I may called them can control others who can't think for themselves and see whats clear. I don't say that bitcoin is perfect - it is far from it. But I am getting sick of these schemes that are around cryptocurrency where everybody is just trying to accumulate more money for themselves and are promoting coin that they have invested in.

If you hate bch so much

I will gladly take your worthless bch you got for FREE at the fork in August.

Did you even own BTC before August?

Now that bch was legitimized by coinbase these are the facts

BTC used to have 20 to 1 value over bch

Since coinbase it is 4.5 to 1

Bch is faster and cheaper to use

Satoshi's white paper theorized the need for hard forks

White paper said fast cheap transactions was whole reason Bitcoin created

So the few that controlled core ignored the facts and now we have a valuable 2nd Bitcoin

It's faster than btc
It's cheaper than btc

Some really smart people are saying a value merge started last week and in a short time BTC will be equal to bch

Now I will take your bch if u don't like them

Or did u dump them

Lol

If you kept them send them my way

They obviously upset u, so I'll take them no charge

Haha

And what exactly is BCH used for nowadays?

Yes, Roger Ver would absolutely be a criminal if crypto had more regulations around it. He may already be a criminal because of collusion and insider trading (which he openly admits to and says should be legal) because  the underlying asset in the BTC futures is being manipulated by him and his cronies and Coinbase. I hope that the US government is looking into this. I'm sure that within certain sectors, they're looking for any reason to mount an attack on crypto.

Roger Ver's actions would indeed be highly questionable if crypto was really regulated, but I wouldn't be surprised if things come back to bite him in the ass at some point anyway.

That's due to insider trading otherwise there would be no chance of such price.

I would tell you that due to that same coinbase,BCH price would crash in january.Coinbase has announced that free BCH coins would be issued during january to all those who held their bitcoins during the hard fork.So,huge volume of free BCH would be dumped at the same time which would crash BCH price.

So,whoever wish to drive on BCH better sell their coins before coinbase's issue of free coins.I hope it may also be the end of BCH.

Exactly!

Ver and his cronies will probably make another push soon to try to squeeze every but that they can out of BCH. I would assume they'd want at least one more pump and dump while all eyes are on the market due to the last few days, but there won't be as much media coverage to magnify the effects over the next couple of days due to the weekend and Christmas. It will happen after

Obviously they've colluded with Coinbase to know the exact date of the release of people's BCH, so there's time for another pump and dump for sure. Maybe next week or the 1st week of January. Maybe the 28th?

Where's the hate? Please do highlight. Factual post meant to warn newbies at risk of being taken in by the FUD campaign.

If you actually paid attention, you'd notice that I've also explained why bcash is cheaper. Every altcoin is because they don't have a network yet.

Atleast other altcoins are decentralized and/or original. Bcash is the only centralized AND rip-off chain.

P.S. Don't hold any cloned coins, only claim and dispose of in favour of more btc.

I'm not sure how big an impact that will have but Lightning unquestionably will prove to be the death knell for bcash.

I'll definitely be keeping a close eye on Bcash over the coming months and years and will be dumping mine for some new upcoming alts in the future

BCH is as decent an alt as anything, so it will still have good value and is probably better than most alts. There may be a big sell off and there might not. Maybe people will hodl both. Something like what happened with the price of BCH disparity on Coinbase when they announced the availability to purchase it may happen again, but possibly in reverse. Nobody knows.

I understand that people don't like it's existence and the sentiment around the whole BTC/BCH situation, but BCH isn't a shitcoin like 90% of the crypto currency currently listed on Coinmarket.

LOL.
I really want to laugh to read it.
would be very risky if Bcash dies in 2018.
whereas to date Bcash holders are numerous.
fee of tx which may be reduced will increase the interest from Bcash

when bitcoin segwit will be activated? to be honest untill presence I believe bch is not more than altcoin

Interesting topic. I thought BCH is related to BTC looking by the name.

Honestly besides the initial launch pains, bitcoin gold is a better altcoin.
It keeps the hashing power decentralized like bitcoin was intended for.
Bitcoin cash is just a "we're taking our ball home" game
At least btcG is offering something, a way to stop huge mining farms. Put the power the power back into the hands of the people, where it belongs.

Let's be real, the only reason why Bcash is relevant is because of the name "Bitcoin", otherwise, it would be trading around the $5-$10 range. It is nothing more than a shitcoin that has shady people with big pockets supporting it behind the scenes and uses the name of BTC just to confuse/manipulate people and crypto newcomers into buying it.

There's going to be a massive BCH dump in Jan 1 but I don't think it's going to be the end of Bcash. Unfortunately, this altcoin has a lot of support behind, from exchanges, crypto influencers, and big companies (coinbase, bitmain, cnbc, etc), to the thousands of people who fell for this scamcoin, and they're not going to let Bcash die. Altcoins always find a way to survive in the crypto market, and Bcash will not be the exception.
Don't get me wrong, I hate Bcash and all crooks that support this scamcoin (Roger, Jihan, Armstrong, etc etc), but i believe we're not going to see it disappear in the short-term.

Bitcoin cash will die during the next year, we all know that.
It has only been created to be a money grab for Roger and his friends from the mining pools, nothing more than that, otherwise, this coin is useless.

Thanks for this kind of topics, I am learning more about bitcoins and its forks. I don't really like it when someone steals an idea and in the end, they tend to make it their own. As I observe it, forks are now trying to destroy bitcoin's name which is a nasty propaganda.

Give this man a prize. It's incredible to me how many people forget that the ONLY value Bcash 'seems' to have is derivative value leeching off the Bitcoin name.


Lightning will put the kibosh on those crooks. Think about it, what else do they have going? 24/7 they keep parroting the same line that Bcash transactions cost less.

I actually believe the other way around.
Bitcoin is on its technical limitation's edge at the moment. In 2018 some Altcoin will take its place.

Don't dump your BCH, Its going to rise in value just as bitcoin is currently doing but i don't think its going to rise as quickly as it is. BCH has already reached and surpassed $1000 in a space of six months and will continue to reach new heights so keep on holding it and don't dump.

BCH is a monopulative coin aimed at destroying bitcoin.
I hope the year 2018 will put everything in its place.

It's pretty clear Bitcoin Cash isn't going anywhere.  If people say Ver and others are pumping it, well they aren't going to walk away are they?    I swept and cashed out months ago thinking nothing would come of it, but here we are 3rd highest market cap, a $3,400 price and supported on many entry exchanges.  Time to accept reality its a major part of the landscape, the only question is whether it will catch Bitcoin.

It's really not their decision. What are they going to do with a pointless altcoin? It will have no purpose whatsoever once Lightning Network goes live on Bitcoin. At least Bitcoin Gold chain will always have something unique to offer being ASIC resistant.

This is the most true post I've ever read about Bcash

BCH have no value in the absence of BTC, and any trader will convert his BCH back to BTC when he gets enough
profit frofit from it because Bitcoin is the only trustworthy cryptocurrency.
BCH will die but not as soon as you expected, I don't think it will be in 2018 anyway.
Obviously, BCH has no future, because just increasing the block size to 4 Mb will not solve the scalability issue.

My thoughts are a bit different than you, its hard for it to die as there are some powerful people within bitcoin community that are backing it up. Plus they have their campaign again BTC in order to grab more people: Like telling that bitcoin cash is real bitcoin and that real one is run "by evil" people who don't want good for bitcoin. I laugh every time when I read their articles/ hear them talk about bitcoin.

On the other hand there were ETH and ETC split where forked part is now the leading one due to support of main devs, but BCH to overtake bitcoin is unlikely at least for now.


I think that they raised block size till like 8MB or I am wrong? Anyway it is a good temporary solution. I do believe that even BTC should raise block sizes at least like 1.5MB-2MB even in future when most people use LN there will be need to do on-chain transactions.

As many people have already said, increasing the blocksize isn't the perfect solution. Even if we decided to do it, we would have to do the same thing again due to increasing Bitcoin popularity. Don't you think that 10 minutes between each block is not enough for microtransactions? Of course it isn't and that's why Lightning Network is one of the best solution we can introduce. Transactions are instant but quite complicated when you first hear how it works.

The only reason Bitcoin Cash exists is the incompetence and arrogance of some developers.

There is 97% of the world who lives on  $1 a day because of the inflation of the currency of their corrupted country and bitcoin should be their freedom but looks like bitcoin is freedom only for the rich who can invest more than $10K.

Venezuela has 10'000% inflation this year, yes you saw it right ... ten thousand %! Do you think people would benefit from Bitcoin to protect themselves from a dictatorship and the hyperinflation? You bet you do but actually they cant, their salary is $50 a month (the ones who are lucky and next month would be probably $25) and how they are supposed to buy bitcoins if the fee is $20 per transaction?

I don't know who is right or who is not, I just know that if you don't live in US and you have a salary of $2000 a month is impossible to use bitcoin, if it was usable Bitcoin Cash would be crashed in seconds.

I hope instead of spending time with trolls and insulting people, on twitter or here, we can spend some time to review the vision if bitcoin and how to make it relevant not only for a rich country but especially for who is in need.

 :D nah bitcoin cash is going to probably dominate in 2018.  If you don't think it's at least a serious contender then you're getting misinformation.  Go to reddit.com/r/btc for the real uncensored discussion.

bcash has optimism in cryptocurrency, steps to sell BTC assets until sold and BCH development is an ambiguous runway's in its journey. they are very optimistic to replace the real money in the bank. while someonea looking for profit in cryptocurrency, BCH have a long breath.

Hi guys,

I am fairly certain that in a couple of months Bcash will be worth much more that its current value! In the long term I really don't care, but for sure bcash will thrive in 2018.

Stop with calling it Bcash, Roger will be offended and might show you middle finger. Lets put joke a side huh, I believe it will exist in 2018, because some influential people are behind it. We have conflict in our opinion and it is normal: for me personally everything that bitcoin cash offers differently is what they market transaction speed and transaction fees. By looking to many alts we can see that all of them offer faster confirmation time and fees compared to bitcoin. Even bitcoin cash will need to scale in coming years at one point if they get mainstream adoption - I guess they will continue to raise blocks in the long run.

However main thing that they have as an advantage over other altcoins is that they are forked as better version of bitcoin. Giving holders the chance to have both coins puts them in better place since if you had bitcoin you had bitcoin cash to play with, how cool is that. Plus having bitcoin in their name and calling it "real" , "true" bitcoin when they advertise it.

But in reality there is no true bitcoin everybody can do their forks as we see now that forks are frequent. Its the community there that separates them from others because you have people that can't handle cost and slow transactions - in my opinion bitcoin should at least provide temporary solution because LN is slow to implement, not because it is some new high tech but because of companies and people don't dividing enough time to make it happen and make it right.

Bitcoin cash has certain advantages over the original bitcoin, associated with some of its improvements. Whether it is centralized, time will tell and the market will be appreciated. As long as the price of cash in cash is raised to almost $ 3,000, it is a real proof of its value and community support. I think that the bitcoins must be competitive with each other and develop mutually.

It has been a strong feeling that BCH is controlled by large funds. And before the arrival of the pre - dug, this is not acceptable. In addition, there are many exchanges that support BCH trading, so it won't die so quickly in 2018, and it should shrink the total value quickly.

Great article, thanks for supporting the real Bitcoin, and letting people know about scam Bcash.

Spot on ... the necessity is NOW, by 2018 some countries might be already dead economically, they can't wait for LN, their economy won't be on hold to allow programmers to take their time!

I think Bitcoin developers should take a humility bath and think differently, the interview I saw with Roger is a display of arrogance and stupidity. Like him or not (I hate the way he markets bitcoin cash) he raised good points and arguments being always respectful while the other guy spent all hour trolling him and changing topic without any real argument. In that case, he had all the reason to show the finger to someone that to me looked like a disrespectful kid "I can't stop calling it Bcah because it's in me" ... are you serious? and you are supposed to be a leader in the project that is changing the world?

Say whatever you want, but Bitcoin Cash is here to stay. The Core has ignored the scaling issues for so long, and even sabotaged attempts to resolve it (such as SegWit2X and Lightning network). A few days back, the transaction fee needed for instant confirmation was close to 1,200 Sat/Byte. You will not achieve anything by spreading FUD about BCH. A better option would be to concentrate on the issues facing BTC right now.

I see almost impossible that Bcash will die in 2018, I even think that both would be more valuable in 2018. It´s true what you are saying about Bcash and BTC, but for these reasons that you mentioned, both will coexist. BTC is a great coin as everyone knows but with high fees and Bcash is not so innovative but has low fees and great supporters. It would be interesting to see if an altcoin could compete against them.

what does bitcoin judas mean? is it something positive?

regards

OP said it pretty much perfectly, Bitcoin cash is nothing but a poor copy and only enjoys success right now because it's not fully popular. It has nothing unique or revolutionary. I look forward to the day that bitcoin finally gets rid of bitcoin cash for good, I just hope that people then stop to listen to such people and they fade in to obscurity.

No. The video shows the face of Bcash, who defected the real bitcoin to pump and profit from a centralized clone coin, promoting and vouching for the solvency of a shady exchange which went bankrupt in 2014, few months after the video was made.

Put simply, Bcash is a blatant attempt to centralize Bitcoin by chinese mining cartel, Bitmain. Anyone with even the slightest understanding of how Bitcoin works can see it but the target for Bcash are newbies who are vulnerable and easily manipulated.

The promise of bitcoin is fast, cheap, anonymous, safe transactions, if bitcoin core was delivering on the promise bitcoin cash would not have a chance

To be honest the reason behind of this situation is Bitcoin cash loses it financial stability in the world trade market unlike bitcoin that continuously waving its name in the industry and shows that they are always the number one and never be replace by other companies.

Yes, your argument is reasonable. But when will the Lightning be launched? Right now even with a Segwit address on Nano Ledger, which is supposed to be "cheap", the fees are unbarebly high.

Bcash is a coin of no striking character and basically they are copying the idea of ​​another coin, so Bcash can disappear completely. Bitcoin is well on the rise with the crypto market, and I think that January 2018 is the time when bitcoin and altcoin grow well as investors return after the New Year holiday.

With all the major payment processors adopting Bitcoin-Cash in 2018, I think you will be incredible wrong.

I for one, can't wait to start using my Bitpay card again. I have not used the thing in over a year because of how ludicrous the transaction fees for Bitcoin have become.

Bitcoin-Cash revitalizes the true Bitcoin function in my mind. Being able to spread the (Original) Philosophy, and efficiency to retailers when using a Bitpay card is a very powerful tool for adoption.

I don't think bcash will become useless or not used often. Lesser altcoins are still around and surviving so I don't see why bcash wouldn't survive as well. It works well and is quick. Many places are now accepting it, well mostly gambling places but it's a start.



I think majot places that accept bitcoin will accept maybe 5 or so currencies. So like eth doge ltc bcash btg and the rest.

I dont know what will happen in the future. Crash or not of any altcoin will be amswered by time itself.
However, i dont really like forking altcoin so if bch die then its not problem for me. Amd in this case, i think better to sell your bch soon because so many bad news about bch recently.

I mean it's like he said, Bcash puts a band aid on the problem kicking the scaling problems can down the road. In exchange for this band aid you trade off decentralization which was the whole purpose of bitcoin.

I think so. Bitcoin is becoming more valuable in this coming year and it will be a factor affecting tool in the money market. Day by day the market volume is getting bigger and bigger so that the amount of money also gathering at a massive level.

In that sense, Bitcoin market is becoming a large market that is going to be a fact for the capital world. Though the money is the all in all in this world so that Bitcoin will dominate in the coming future and it will be a great platform for investing and saving purpose. Not only that but also it's becoming a threat for other conventional monetary systems.

You have a point in your opinion but since bitcoin price are volatility we cannot sure if the price will go up or down in the future the crypto market are so big every single day the volume are increase.
However theres a lot of prediction that this year most altcoin will not survive and the price of bitcoin will go up and up.
I dont see bcash will die ether I see this altcoin will pump up again like bitcoin.

I doubt it will happen, because to this day BCH higher price. maybe such a theory will happen and make sense, but in fact many people can argue that BCH will be a rival of BTC.

First, I am afraid your statements are propaganda, and discriminate against others. Perhaps more accurately the answer is, let the time answer it. as long as BCH can still be enjoyed by users, then BCH will not die.

I also believe that the developers of the original bitcoin almost deliberately ignore bitcoin scaling problems and, as a consequence, its problems with transactions. In me, it's already been the seventh day that a transaction of 0.0175 bitcoins has not passed. Is it a praised bitcoin? And why would anyone need it? These defects are just stripped of cash in cash.

centralized will make bitcoincash weak and have dark future.
BCH can be used and accepted by government because that reason.
like you say bitcoin will be even more valuable

Not either of them will die off. They will coexcist like many other coins do.

The ratio between them may be subject to some change, but if shit altcoins can gain hundreds of millions of market cap on air, bitcoin cash will keep its billions of cap as well.

I think it will die because of bitcoin increase, and many of the user of bitcoin cash will switch to bitcoin for the high profit.

bitcoin cash is not going to die just because it is shit (by definition or just opinion). if that happens then 90% of the altcoins need to die also because they too are shit. altcoins are for speculation and money-making and that will keep them alive even with 0 usage.

in case of bitcoin cash it has been acting like a parasite to be honest and parasites don't go away as long as the host they are feeding of is not strong. and at this point with the huge backlog bitcoin is not at its strongest position. and that opens way for all these altcoins including BCH to feed.

OK. I understand what you are saying. Actually I am thinking the same about BCH problems in the future if they reach Bitcoin's adoption. And for long years I have been a believer in bitcoin but today I am just waiting the second day for a transaction with a nice multidollar fee, so I am losing some nerve.

So please answer those two questions and put me at ease:
1) when is the LN going to be fully operational?
2) I have read, that in order to use LN you have to open and then close the LN channel, which takes the regular tx fee. Is it true? If it is true, than you are going to pay even more in fees than you are paying today, not less.

If you can answer those questions sensibly I am buying what you are saying.

Under the current circumstances, it doesn't looks like Bitcoin Cash will die anytime soon. There is a lot of demand for BCH right now, especially in South Korea (perhaps by the Chinese investors). And the reasons are there for everyone to see. Just check this, and you will understand:

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

LN is already being phased in by some payment providers. Opening a channel is a regular transaction but it's only a one-time fee. That fee will go down drastically once all exchanges adopt SegWit, as the mempool will clear up.

You can pay multiple parties over a period of time through a channel, which means once a channel is open you can even pay people 1 satoshi through the channel with ZERO fee. It's a virtuous cycle, as more and more people use LN, the mempool will have few unconfirmed transactions and therefore, even the fee to open and close channels will be very minimal.

Neither one of them will die in 2018. As much as we hate BCH, it will still continue and live in 2018. For me, it will make another move to create FUD and try to take some investors on bitcoin to shift on their favor. But I don't think that a wise investors will just do that because of the problems we are currently facing.

And for Bitcoin, it will remain the no. 1 on the crypto list and the most investment portfolio pushing the price to another heights. But it will take some time because of the high tx fees and slow confirmations that we are experiencing right now.

Bitcoin Cash has a purpose. It will not die as long as that purpose exists. I just checked the number of unconfirmed transactions in Blockchain. It is around 172,000. The minimum fee required for instant confirmation is 540 Sat/Byte, which is still quite high. Therefore the existence of BCH is justified.

That's right even how people say that bch will die it won't happen just like how eth did before, as long as crypto supporters are willing to take the
risk both coins will continue and they will bring more impact, better to keep investing while the value is down and wait for it turned to move back
again and rise high.

if the bitcoin cash sir this year 2018i think the bitcoin will boom, because many users of bitcoin cash will turn their investments to bitcoin and start buying more bitcoin and when its happened the price of bitcoin will increase.

You have a point there.

Even though I think that BCash wont totally disapear. Just stabilize itself a some low level.

You got that back the front, BTC users will probably start to use BCH this year so they can actually pay for something in bitcoin without the tx fee costing more than the item itself.  :P

It would be nice if many people earned on the Internet a lot of people are now working on their work spends a lot of time.

What's the tx fee on the Bitcoin network again?  :P

Bcash is now redundant. What little value it has now is a derivative owed to its plagiarizing the Bitcoin name.

Ok smart-ass, fees are now low again on the btc network, i know.
Where were you when I posted that, back when fees were easily costing $10-$100+ per transaction?

but now its 2018 and Q2 to be specific but bcash still on the scene and just following the price movement as what bitcoins leading..when will this "dying issue"happening?mid of this year,or later?thoughi have no bad thinking about bcash but i dont know i just dont like the coin,or maybe i really hates copycat

Bcash is unlikely to die in 2018, and it will not even die in the future, and there will be more supporters to join it. Although I do not like bcash, but have to admit bcash is stronger than we think now. They have large consortia and numerous supporters. Many miners have also been bcash in the past. This world is not something that we don't like. It will die. We must acknowledge this fact.

We all know that Bitcoin is cash and we do not know how many years it will die.
Do not dump BCH, Bitcoin prices are increasing now. Growth gradually increases gradually. BCH has already exceeded $ 1000 and will continue to grow further. It will not dump until the maximum price is raised.

I think the lightning network getting underway will be the final blow that will kill of bcash. There is something very calculated and snakey about rojer ver and Craig wright. The dev con event last month where vital called out Craig wright is the kind of thing I think we need influencers to call out more often

this is not a fact, maybe bitcoin cache will show itself very well, as well as bitcoin :)

2018 will be too early for Bitcoin Cash to run in a serious problem of lack of nodes and miners. Bcash's creator will continue to pump it and try to convince other people that it is the real Bitcoin without providing any useful information. Bitcoin.com situation becomes worse and worse. They sold Bitcoin Cash as BTC and this cause commotion among some new Bitcoin owners. I think that Bitcoin Cash will slowly die because Lightning Network seems to be pretty stable at this point. Things might change but I really doubt that something bad might happen to Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is now the king of the jungle and more popular then Bitcoin cash and any other coin altcoin except ETH.
After the fork it seems that bitcoin cash will one day reach at the top but still people trust on bitcoin only they never took on bitcoincash.

This is the most true post I've ever read about Bcash

2018 is half spent. Yet Bitcoincash is still moving on.  The price isn't looking bad either. From hindsight, this industry has proved that no one is certain of where it's headed next. I find it amusing when people speculate or predict a crypto and then leave date and time for such to be realized. This isn't about prophecy. No one truly knows what happens next. For all I know BCH could still be here in the next 10 years.

I may called them can control others who can't think for themselves and see whats clear. I don't say that bitcoin is perfect - it is far from it

Bitcoin will be more valuable,yes but i dont think bcash will die soon. More investors are eyeing bcash as they see its potential as a good butcoin competitor.

all only is guessing, will be sure that sure for it when it happen. I'm wait of the return of the BTC

 I find it amusing when people speculate or predict a crypto and then leave date and time for such to be realized.They have large consortia and numerous supporters.

Good timing OP.
You posted this on December 23, when BCH was going for 3375$ or 0.2 BTC at the time, just 2 days after the ATH.

Now let's see if SV and ABC will obliterate each other into oblivion, or the war will make them invest even more energies and capital into their respective projects and deliver something meaningful.

First time this is true prediction i see. Your predict about BCH in the last year and now this coin almost died i think. But other 2 fork coin growing specially BSV very promising coin all investor trade with this coin.