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Title: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on December 24, 2017, 10:01:14 PM
I still remember Untold (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1121520) getting red trust for stealing signature style from BlackMambaPH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=884853) [Here Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2261585)], the signature in the copy is the property of "Member rank".

So here I see BOON COIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2475078) stealing signature i made for INS ECOSYSTEM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2255023). So are they worth to given red trust?
If yes, please give him red trust.

Thank you before.

INS ECOSYSTEM : https://i.imgur.com/E7Plp5R.png
BOON COIN : https://i.imgur.com/loTOhOp.png


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: SFR10 on December 25, 2017, 06:48:56 AM
So here I see BOON COIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2475078) stealing signature i made for INS ECOSYSTEM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2255023). So are they worth to given red trust?
If yes, please give him red trust.
It depends. Have you notified them in regards to plagiarized signatures (Jr. up to Full)? If the answer is yes and they don't want to take it down (even if it was made by another designer), then "Yes", they deserve a negative rating but if they had no idea that someone they hired, just copied someone else's work and decide to take it down, then the answer is "No".


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on December 25, 2017, 09:39:15 AM
So here I see BOON COIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2475078) stealing signature i made for INS ECOSYSTEM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2255023). So are they worth to given red trust?
If yes, please give him red trust.
It depends. Have you notified them in regards to plagiarized signatures (Jr. up to Full)? If the answer is yes and they don't want to take it down (even if it was made by another designer), then "Yes", they deserve a negative rating but if they had no idea that someone they hired, just copied someone else's work and decide to take it down, then the answer is "No".

Well, thank you very much for the explanation, I will talk to them. :)


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on December 28, 2017, 07:24:46 PM
It depends. Have you notified them in regards to plagiarized signatures (Jr. up to Full)? If the answer is yes and they don't want to take it down (even if it was made by another designer), then "Yes", they deserve a negative rating but if they had no idea that someone they hired, just copied someone else's work and decide to take it down, then the answer is "No".


He said like this :

I have to check, it was done a long time back like two months ago. I see your message. Let me send you information after digging in, it was someone outside of btc.


Is it possible that people outside BTC have an interest in doing something for a project related to crypto?


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: SFR10 on December 28, 2017, 08:27:57 PM
He said like this :

I have to check, it was done a long time back like two months ago. I see your message. Let me send you information after digging in, it was someone outside of btc.


Is it possible that people outside BTC have an interest in doing something for a project related to crypto?
It's a possibility (in case they used an external marketplace that users have to bid for such things). Its best to wait for further proof...


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on December 28, 2017, 10:18:59 PM
He said like this :

I have to check, it was done a long time back like two months ago. I see your message. Let me send you information after digging in, it was someone outside of btc.


Is it possible that people outside BTC have an interest in doing something for a project related to crypto?
It's a possibility (in case they used an external marketplace that users have to bid for such things). Its best to wait for further proof...

Ok.. :)


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: timerland on December 29, 2017, 06:10:58 AM
I still remember Untold (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1121520) getting red trust for stealing signature style from BlackMambaPH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=884853) [Here Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2261585)], the signature in the copy is the property of "Member rank".

So here I see BOON COIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2475078) stealing signature i made for INS ECOSYSTEM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2255023). So are they worth to given red trust?
If yes, please give him red trust.

Thank you before.

INS ECOSYSTEM : https://i.imgur.com/E7Plp5R.png
BOON COIN : https://i.imgur.com/loTOhOp.png

These signatures are 99.9999% sure that they are direct copies. This sort of behavior shouldn't be tolerated at all and should be harshly punished.

I know the rules on Bitcointalk state that you can't copy each others posts, but what do you think if activities like this were also included under that title? Not just posts, but creations.

So here I see BOON COIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2475078) stealing signature i made for INS ECOSYSTEM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2255023). So are they worth to given red trust?
If yes, please give him red trust.
It depends. Have you notified them in regards to plagiarized signatures (Jr. up to Full)? If the answer is yes and they don't want to take it down (even if it was made by another designer), then "Yes", they deserve a negative rating but if they had no idea that someone they hired, just copied someone else's work and decide to take it down, then the answer is "No".

IMO I don't quite think it was done by someone outside of the forum, otherwise how would they be able to verify the signatures work and etc. I hope that you receive a response from them to clear this up.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on December 29, 2017, 06:40:05 AM
I still remember Untold (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1121520) getting red trust for stealing signature style from BlackMambaPH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=884853) [Here Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2261585)], the signature in the copy is the property of "Member rank".

So here I see BOON COIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2475078) stealing signature i made for INS ECOSYSTEM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2255023). So are they worth to given red trust?
If yes, please give him red trust.

Thank you before.

INS ECOSYSTEM : https://i.imgur.com/E7Plp5R.png
BOON COIN : https://i.imgur.com/loTOhOp.png

These signatures are 99.9999% sure that they are direct copies. This sort of behavior shouldn't be tolerated at all and should be harshly punished.

I know the rules on Bitcointalk state that you can't copy each others posts, but what do you think if activities like this were also included under that title? Not just posts, but creations.

So here I see BOON COIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2475078) stealing signature i made for INS ECOSYSTEM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2255023). So are they worth to given red trust?
If yes, please give him red trust.
It depends. Have you notified them in regards to plagiarized signatures (Jr. up to Full)? If the answer is yes and they don't want to take it down (even if it was made by another designer), then "Yes", they deserve a negative rating but if they had no idea that someone they hired, just copied someone else's work and decide to take it down, then the answer is "No".

IMO I don't quite think it was done by someone outside of the forum, otherwise how would they be able to verify the signatures work and etc. I hope that you receive a response from them to clear this up.

Well, this kind of response is what I would expect from a respectable member of this forum. I want a firm and fair action from DT members in this forum. I feel, because I have a negative trust, it seems like a respectable members in this forum do not care about my post.

I also think that, if people outside the BTC / forum might be able to create a website for their "Token" project, but for signature campaigns and designs that only run in this forum, I think it is impossible to do by people outside BTC.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: jayce on December 30, 2017, 09:38:44 AM
I want to confirm those senior and hero design were copied by mine (sig design for REGA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2167159.0)). Let me ask this case to the project owner.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: Patatas on December 30, 2017, 09:42:12 AM
I want to confirm those senior and hero design were copied by mine (sig design for REGA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2167159.0)). Let me ask this case to the project owner.
You don't have to waste time doing that since project owners are mostly not aware what's what,it's the bounty managers who usually are the first one's to decide on the signatures and such.This following person is responsible for their bounties : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1223126 Message him instead.

Also they shouldn't let allowed to do it as if 'no-one is noticing'.Don't hesitate to open a scam accusation.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: jayce on December 30, 2017, 09:52:21 AM
I want to confirm those senior and hero design were copied by mine (sig design for REGA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2167159.0)). Let me ask this case to the project owner.
You don't have to waste time doing that since project owners are mostly not aware what's what,it's the bounty managers who usually are the first one's to decide on the signatures and such.This following person is responsible for their bounties : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1223126 Message him instead.

Also they shouldn't let allowed to do it as if 'no-one is noticing'.Don't hesitate to open a scam accusation.

What's the difference if I ask this to the project owner directly? It's even better imo, so the owner would be more aware of what his bounty manager is doing.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: aTriz on December 30, 2017, 09:59:39 AM
I want to confirm those senior and hero design were copied by mine (sig design for REGA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2167159.0)). Let me ask this case to the project owner.
You don't have to waste time doing that since project owners are mostly not aware what's what,it's the bounty managers who usually are the first one's to decide on the signatures and such.This following person is responsible for their bounties : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1223126 Message him instead.

Also they shouldn't let allowed to do it as if 'no-one is noticing'.Don't hesitate to open a scam accusation.

What's the difference if I ask this to the project owner directly? It's even better imo, so the owner would be more aware of what his bounty manager is doing.
Ask both.

Project owner should know that if he is paying for the sigs, he's getting scammed, or if he isn't, the manager is doing a really shit job.

Bounty Manager should know that if they didn't purchase sigs themselves, the owner is too cheap to spend a couple of dollars on them.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: BlackMambaPH on December 30, 2017, 03:37:41 PM
Another person doing the same, This full member bitcointalk user is stealing the signature design codes. Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1039630 of :

He's stealing the signature codes from Let's Think About the Future | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1560376.msg15665063#msg15665063


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: jayce on December 30, 2017, 05:14:29 PM
Another person doing the same, This full member bitcointalk user is stealing the signature design codes. Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1039630 of :

He's stealing the signature codes from Let's Think About the Future | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1560376.msg15665063#msg15665063
Thank you for pointing that out, the Why Future's signature also made by me. I'll ask that person and lets see what his reply. Seems I have to update my portfolio though.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on December 30, 2017, 05:19:55 PM
I no longer get a reply from BOON COIN. Is it possible to dig it need to takes a long time? Besides, I do not believe it's doing from people outside BTC, I guess it's just an absurd excuse to avoid this case.

I have to check, it was done a long time back like two months ago. I see your message. Let me send you information after digging in, it was someone outside of btc.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: jayce on December 31, 2017, 11:19:15 AM
Another person doing the same, This full member bitcointalk user is stealing the signature design codes. Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1039630 of :

He's stealing the signature codes from Let's Think About the Future | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1560376.msg15665063#msg15665063

Regarding this case, I have pmed him and we have solved this issue. I have given him permission to use that signature. Thank you again BlackMambaPH for pointing out this case.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: BlackMambaPH on December 31, 2017, 01:08:40 PM
Another person doing the same, This full member bitcointalk user is stealing the signature design codes. Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1039630 of :

He's stealing the signature codes from Let's Think About the Future | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1560376.msg15665063#msg15665063

Regarding this case, I have pmed him and we have solved this issue. I have given him permission to use that signature. Thank you again BlackMambaPH for pointing out this case.

Well that's great! We will work together to avoid this bad behaviors. Many of the member here in the forum openly to this I'm just too lazy to do report some but if I have some time I will do report it again so that we can solved that issue.

Anyway, A Happy New Year to All!


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on December 31, 2017, 07:47:01 PM
they are afraid of dealing with members of DT, jayce problems can be quickly resolved, because jayce is an respectable designer in this forum. But look at my problem, it has not received a response for days. Why DT members can not believe me? I know, I have a negative trust, whether i need to provide proof, that signature is i make? If so, I'll give the proof after I've get home.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: BlackMambaPH on December 31, 2017, 08:08:44 PM
they are afraid of dealing with members of DT, jayce problems can be quickly resolved, because jayce is an respectable designer in this forum. But look at my problem, it has not received a response for days. Why DT members can not believe me? I know, I have a negative trust, whether i need to provide proof, that signature is i make? If so, I'll give the proof after I've get home.

Man, its clearly a holiday season don't rush things today. I'm pretty sure that after this long weekend holiday they will response or tag a negative trust rating to that mention accounts. Don;t worry this case will be solve. Anyway Happy New Year! More signature design project to come! Cheers!


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: jayce on December 31, 2017, 09:19:13 PM
Dont worry unyil, like what BlackMambaPH said, it's still holiday, so we can wait for few more days. They haven't replied my message as well, once they done I'll let you and people here know. Btw, happy new year for you who already celebrated it!


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: aTriz on January 01, 2018, 04:16:24 AM
they are afraid of dealing with members of DT, jayce problems can be quickly resolved, because jayce is an respectable designer in this forum. But look at my problem, it has not received a response for days. Why DT members can not believe me? I know, I have a negative trust, whether i need to provide proof, that signature is i make? If so, I'll give the proof after I've get home.
Probably due to your problems during the holiday period. Everyone is out celebrating.

I'm sure they will eventually get to you. Now you can just keep waiting or keep talking to the dev.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: Lauda on January 01, 2018, 04:27:20 PM
Why DT members can not believe me? I know, I have a negative trust, whether i need to provide proof, that signature is i make? If so, I'll give the proof after I've get home.
Self-entitled, spoiled, brat as always. No DT member is required to spend, not even a second, of their free-time on some random's issues on the internet. That said, you can try sending some donations to some of them (see Vod's donation address for prayer messages) and see whether they can prioritize your request.

Disclaimer: I don't have such a donation address and am just fed up with the "You don't know me, but you still have to do what I request of you" attitude from the forum members.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on January 01, 2018, 11:15:43 PM
Man, its clearly a holiday season don't rush things today. I'm pretty sure that after this long weekend holiday they will response or tag a negative trust rating to that mention accounts. Don;t worry this case will be solve. Anyway Happy New Year! More signature design project to come! Cheers!
Dont worry unyil, like what BlackMambaPH said, it's still holiday, so we can wait for few more days. They haven't replied my message as well, once they done I'll let you and people here know. Btw, happy new year for you who already celebrated it!
Thanks a lot for your wise words, you are a designer who deserves to be respected. I really appreciate you guys, thank you very much once again.

Self-entitled, spoiled, brat as always. No DT member is required to spend, not even a second, of their free-time on some random's issues on the internet. That said, you can try sending some donations to some of them (see Vod's donation address for prayer messages) and see whether they can prioritize your request.

Disclaimer: I don't have such a donation address and am just fed up with the "You don't know me, but you still have to do what I request of you" attitude from the forum members.
Okay, so he'll do something after he's paid. It sounded so interesting that I would be spared the "bribery" charge if doing so, because the donation was requested.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: Lauda on January 02, 2018, 08:47:50 AM
Okay, so he'll do something after he's paid. It sounded so interesting that I would be spared the "bribery" charge if doing so, because the donation was requested.
That's not what I said. Read his signature very carefully:

https://i.imgur.com/62p29k0.png


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: greeklogos on January 02, 2018, 05:10:42 PM
I have saw many similar decines of signatures and there was even some argue about coping. But all that designs are actually look the same and I don't understand why people are making so much panic around that, time ago people were more loyal to such plagiat.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: jayce on January 02, 2018, 05:36:19 PM
I have saw many similar decines of signatures and there was even some argue about coping. But all that designs are actually look the same and I don't understand why people are making so much panic around that, time ago people were more loyal to such plagiat.

I'm okay if someone copying my design, as long as he asks my permission to do that. If he doesnt do that, I will ask his confirmation regarding his action and we will discuss the issue. Fyi, we designers cant just accuse someone easily, which we have to check the codes before deciding if he really plagiarizing our design or not. How do you feel if you create something, which you have spent your precious time to create that, then suddenly someone just copying yours and making some small changes in couple of minutes, and the worse part he sells the design to some company?


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on January 10, 2018, 12:39:10 PM
Obviously, they will not think this is a problem for them, I'm sure they think this is a joke because I have a red trust. F**k


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on January 21, 2018, 12:41:40 PM
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Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on January 21, 2018, 01:34:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/jdh1IIR.png
https://i.imgur.com/jdh1IIR.png He's no longer active, he realizes he's wrong, if he's not mistaken I'm sure he'll defend it. LOL


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: jayce on January 21, 2018, 06:41:48 PM
Taking a revenge by doing same thing is not an honorable thing, unyil. I respect you as a good designer who have created many good designs here.

Btw you're right, the owner never comes to this forum again since Dec 28th, and the campaign manager never replies my message until now after I messaged him twice.


Hi bkris,

Someone reported me that the signature that used by your project BOON COIN has plagiarized mine. What do you think as the campaign manager? Where did you get the design? Any opinion from you would be highly appreciated.

Regards,
jayce

Are you avoiding my message? I dont want to make it more complicated, so please respond.

Maybe he is not responsible for the signature design, but avoiding this serious issue is not acceptable imo. He can just say he doesnt know about that and helps us to clarify the issue.


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on January 21, 2018, 07:27:36 PM
Taking a revenge by doing same thing is not an honorable thing, unyil. I respect you as a good designer who have created many good designs here.

Yes I'm sorry, I have edited the post.
I just want to let go of this turbulent emotion, Lauda can give me red trust easily with the proof I give, but I can not accept my complaint is ignored by him. he seems to have run out of red ink. :D :D


Title: Re: [WTA] about the stealing of signature designs
Post by: unyil on January 21, 2018, 07:40:30 PM
Taking a revenge by doing same thing is not an honorable thing, unyil. I respect you as a good designer who have created many good designs here.

Btw you're right, the owner never comes to this forum again since Dec 28th, and the campaign manager never replies my message until now after I messaged him twice.


Hi bkris,

Someone reported me that the signature that used by your project BOON COIN has plagiarized mine. What do you think as the campaign manager? Where did you get the design? Any opinion from you would be highly appreciated.

Regards,
jayce

Are you avoiding my message? I dont want to make it more complicated, so please respond.

Maybe he is not responsible for the signature design, but avoiding this serious issue is not acceptable imo. He can just say he doesnt know about that and helps us to clarify the issue.

BTW, thank you so much you still consider me here, even I have a red trust on my profile, most people here no longer respect the account that already has a red trust. Honestly I'm frustrated with this red color, there are some big projects coming to me, but once they know my account with this red trust, all canceled.

Once again I want to say thank you very much jayce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=335088), you are my inspiration in making signatures. You are the best designer here with your sincere attitude. :)