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Title: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: bizul on December 26, 2017, 08:25:41 PM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: alphalifter304 on December 26, 2017, 08:47:56 PM
There are some signals that can make you some money but I personally prefer to just do everything myself. Some people are lucky with their guesses but the success almost always depends of the facts of the company, its not a controlled scam, if anything its the complete opposite with how crazy Cryptos numbers are across the board. Its pretty easy just keep up with the news and regularly read the forum, I day trade and make a good amount of money even when the whole market drops just as its doing right now.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: figmentofmyass on December 26, 2017, 10:34:47 PM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.

this could be happening for the same reason that paper trading / demo trading doesn't work. when there is no real risk involved, you don't experience the psychological struggles and tough decisions involved with trading for real money. it could also be due to variance. or maybe you badly need to refine your trading system, and you were just getting lucky at first. whatever the cause, it's a good time to take a step back and start learning the basics of technical analysis, fundamental analysis, portfolio and risk management, and all that nitty gritty stuff.

I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

who are you referring to, specifically? a common practice is to post multiple ideas and outcomes on the chart, then retweet/repost the the chart that played out correctly. some "analysts" even go back and delete posts that were wrong, to give the impression that they are "always on spot."


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: 949miner on December 26, 2017, 10:50:44 PM
They are always saying that they know how to predict the price and bla bla blah, it has always been a big fake.

No one can predict what is going to happen with the price.

A big analyst said that bitcoin was going to be touching $7k by last week, did it happened? of course not.

They are never going to be able to predict the price just by EMA, Bollinger Bands, head and shoulders, and all that crap.


I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: staywoke081 on December 26, 2017, 11:00:29 PM
If anybody says to you they actually know what is happening that is a lie. Technical analysis exists in order to give us an estimate of what is going to happen but it isn't an exact science. Furthermore, the more people that use TA the more the prophecy become self-fulfilling. At least this is what I have found in my short while in this industry.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: thet on December 27, 2017, 12:58:09 AM
Sometimes it is real but we cannot predict the next happening in trading if the price of bitcoin or alts will going to increase or decrease. Even the chart is not permanent at all, it can change also.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: metribitcoin on December 27, 2017, 01:46:57 AM
No one can predict the price in 100% , trading analysis just speculation but speculation with analyis could be 70% true and 30% wrong. But to become expert trader for the better learn about trading by my self so all investment will be own responsibility.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: 13abyknight on December 27, 2017, 02:01:30 AM
Predicting an exact price at a particular point of time is what speculators and they base this on various factors influencing the price of Bitcoin. Of course they cannot be right all the time but most of the times they end up speculating very close to the actual price.

Instead of relying on trade signals from analysts, since you told us you've already played around with small amounts, begin making the calls by yourself. This will not only give you invaluable experience but also a sense of responsibility of your own money.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: katinko on December 27, 2017, 02:03:26 AM
Do some analysis could helps to predict which coin will increase its value but it cant gives you 100% sure prediction. If you want to make sure income just invest in the much well known coin in the crypto currency world even their value increases a little bit but the possibility to make income is very high.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: JanpriX on December 27, 2017, 02:23:44 AM
One big difference that you are experiencing right now is that you'll get very emotional when you risk big amounts of money. Your judgement gets clouded by irrelevant thoughts and this lets you make poor decision on your trades. The only answer for this problem is for you to get experience in trading cryptocurrency and control your emotions (this is very hard even for veteran traders).

Regarding to analysts giving spot-on guess about the market, I must say that their success came from their vast experience in the market and having it applied to their Technical Analysis. Make no mistake. They do have losses here and there but their study regarding the market gives them more trading wins than the opposite ones. 


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: SONG GEET on December 27, 2017, 04:44:49 AM
Elite traders know how to read trading charts and they set their buy/sell points according to market trend rather than their emotions. Newbie traders always follows their emotions and what they think gonna happen, market don't have patterns it will only have trend and you have to find the current trend and go with it.



Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Babebottle on December 27, 2017, 05:30:30 AM
If you want to trade, the first thing you neeed to learn is accepting the fact of losing money.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: TeamUp on December 27, 2017, 05:35:49 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

There is no pattern in the market, it only goes down and up. If the price of the Coins is RED at the moment, then for sure it will go green in a few days, same with the green Coins, if its GREEN today, most probably it will turn red in a few days. So to be sure, dont buy those coins who are already high in there regular price.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Dutchyyy on December 27, 2017, 05:45:29 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

It may be partially applied for Bitcoin + 2-3 main alts with a lot of skepticism.
For the rest, especially those with small market cap, it's totally non-applicable because they are too easily being manipulated even with small resources.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: creeps on December 27, 2017, 05:56:10 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

Speculation sometime are real but of course don't just depend on that make your own analysis about the market before you trade, it is good to read some blogs about it but studying it is way better. If you want to loose your money study further because you really need to know how to read the market.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: noormcs5 on December 27, 2017, 06:07:36 AM
I read analysis and speculations but i am not depending on them, i do what i want to do. I take decision on my behalf. Usually, i hold bitcoin for a long time. You have lost in trading when you sell your coins without profit, so don't need to fully follow the speculations, use our mind and then take the decision in trading. 


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Herbert2020 on December 27, 2017, 06:46:11 AM
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
it depends on what you read but i am nearly sure that they do not control anything! they are beginners like yourself who are writing some thoughts on some blog and share it with others. and most of those that i have seen are full of shit.
of course sometimes what they say comes true!

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How can they be so sure?
it is good to check the timestamps you would be surprised to learn how many of them write something after the rises happen! for example some altcoin gets pumped then they write something saying it will pump and use a old price as if they have written the article before the pump!


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: ubeng07 on December 27, 2017, 07:05:55 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

Speculation sometime are real but of course don't just depend on that make your own analysis about the market before you trade, it is good to read some blogs about it but studying it is way better. If you want to loose your money study further because you really need to know how to read the market.

everyone can do the speculation about bitcoin but we all know that this is may not enough and also the possibility of it are not sure so having some knowledge also you may read a lot of about the coin that you are trading having knowledge about the market being updated may help you a lot than speculating.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Aizhen05 on December 27, 2017, 07:26:54 AM
Sometimes it is real but we cannot predict the next happening in trading if the price of bitcoin or alts will going to increase or decrease. Even the chart is not permanent at all, it can change also.
it may look yes but this is not so that we can see cause we all know that trading analysis can one of the method only but not the base of you to know the next pump of the coin that you are holding this is just only one of the helpful method that you can ever used for.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: bizul on December 27, 2017, 05:09:14 PM
Oh, this is very informative. I thought I was going to be ignored because I'm a tiny fish in a world of sharks.
I really appreciate all the guidance, really grateful.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: usekevin on December 27, 2017, 05:17:54 PM
Sometimes it is real but we cannot predict the next happening in trading if the price of bitcoin or alts will going to increase or decrease. Even the chart is not permanent at all, it can change also.
it may look yes but this is not so that we can see cause we all know that trading analysis can one of the method only but not the base of you to know the next pump of the coin that you are holding this is just only one of the helpful method that you can ever used for.

Trading analysis some time will be true,some time may not. So just hold the bitcoin and sell when the price reaches maximum and hold when the price of bitcoin reaches low value. But good one is hold your coins for the long as much you can. Because just holding wll gives you additional dollars,avoid of panic selling also give you some more dollars.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: wantjokull on December 27, 2017, 05:29:47 PM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
The real thing is about market updates and insider news. If you know these two things in sure shot way then there is chance that you will end up with good results too. ;-)

Anyway now let’s consider you can’t get insider stuff but you can always update yourself with market news and updates on daily basis. There are many threads which talk about specific coin and they can give us idea about the next huge pump or even dump. The speculations are real and we should always focus on them to get true results.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: pereira4 on December 27, 2017, 05:34:32 PM
There are two types of approaches to analyze a market:

1) Fundamental analysis: This focuses on anything that could have an impact on the asset, when it comes to Bitcoin, it would be technological improvements, news on exchanges, powerful people talking about in a certain way (see Jamie Dimon's repeated attempts at FUD the price... etc)

2) Technical analysis: This focuses exclusively on the charts and the shapes formed therein. In my view this is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I think it's healthy to consider both and don't think FA can work without TA and TA can work without FA.. it's a mixture.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: GeorgeFeb on December 27, 2017, 05:39:46 PM
Graphs are very useful only to check the lifetime of the particular currency!

All analysis and analysts are pure scam and guessing!

Read Nassim Taleb, you won't regret it!

But it's not that hard to understand even without reading him! :)


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: maarx on December 27, 2017, 06:08:38 PM
Stuffs kept for analisis are just for references to have some idea to deal with things related to findings, its not advised to just go by the analisis. Things changes now and then. It should come from the experience. Either its right or not, take your own decision and move forward. Gather ideas from people who already have lot experience on the same field. All these are for just knowledge to move about. Just refer what you come across related to your findings and implement as per your decision. Abide to your decision either lose or win.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Theb on December 27, 2017, 06:20:31 PM
What you are doing looking at how others analyze or predict the price movement of cryptocurrency is not what is called "trading analysis" or technical analysis  as you are simply looking at how others do it without you even confirming it with your own analysis. If you really want to profit from trading what you need to do is to study and do your own analysis as it is the only way for you to confirm what they are doing is accurate or right.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: nikjain422 on December 27, 2017, 06:37:09 PM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
Surety comes with experience.The analyst blogs is full of experienced and smart traders.They have been into this field since it was started.They know what are the limitation of each coin and till where it can go,They don't run or control but they clearly know how it will run and that's the huge difference between a newbie and an experienced campaigner.I am not saying that new traders can't analyse but for that everybody has to gain knowledge regarding trends and limit.It is not scam or control by anybody if it was people controlling them would only be the richest person.Trading is a skill which develops with time.   


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: keyzersoze on December 27, 2017, 06:41:59 PM
It all boils down to human behavior, which can be broken to down to math, algorithms and formulas. Which in turn is just information and patterns, like everything else. Learn to understand that information and those patterns, and you might have an edge :P


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: markint on December 27, 2017, 07:07:59 PM
In fact the technical analysis in the bitcoin and the altcoin market in general seems to have no use, since this very recent and immature market is easily manipulated and it is enough that a man like McAfee sneezes to generate enormous volatility in some altcoin. Therefore, I usually focus on few cryptos, and most of them with enough stability, such as bitcoin and ethereum.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: shield132 on December 27, 2017, 07:27:56 PM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
Blind game always loses but deep analytics can win sometimes. Trading with small money is easy because you don't care if you lose, you can risk very easily and well, to say finally, you trade without bad emotions, that's main factor. When you trade with big, you think more than you have to think, are nervous if you lose, make more mistakes and etc. Trading needs much training, good analytics skills and etc.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: iged_war on December 28, 2017, 01:47:50 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
Blind game always loses but deep analytics can win sometimes. Trading with small money is easy because you don't care if you lose, you can risk very easily and well, to say finally, you trade without bad emotions, that's main factor. When you trade with big, you think more than you have to think, are nervous if you lose, make more mistakes and etc. Trading needs much training, good analytics skills and etc.
trading using analysis, it will make it easier to determine where we should buy at which price level.with this analysis it will minimize our risk for at least.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: geyayy on January 04, 2018, 07:58:00 PM
You can observe that by being vigilant. Take a look in the picture properly, think of it as the time what is happening in our society. Analysis of it is not that easy, ypu should observe more in the moment, so you can understand it by heart.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: kolega on January 04, 2018, 08:09:33 PM
The market is manipulated by introducing traders astray, knocking the stop loss, but different oscillators in combination in the charts of coins, helping to see the market overbought or Vice versa and make a decision about selling or buying coins


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: dmamigo on January 04, 2018, 08:30:45 PM
Mostly speculation regarding Bitcoin and few more. But Analysis does comes into effect. At the beginning even during the early 2017 analysis upon Bitcoin trading came to use, not likely as of now, which is speculation mostly, its really hard to analyse it now. And the people predicting it is mostly speculating.
But for few coins, fundamentals are good enough and fundamental analysis can help find those in early stages.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: serjent05 on January 04, 2018, 08:47:13 PM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

I believe it is some kind of speculation, no one knows the future unless we made everything to make it happen.  One reason for this is that this so called people that gives signal have high influence on their industry.  So whatever they said, those who follow them ( especially if they have millions of follower) will have a dramatic effect on the market and will have a ripple effect to outside circle.  Imagining a very influencial trader giving signal that x coin will increase by 20x on y time..  Definitely this million followers will buy this x coin and when this y time come, the effect of this buying will greatly increase the price. 


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: EdenHazard on January 05, 2018, 08:41:49 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

I believe it is some kind of speculation, no one knows the future unless we made everything to make it happen.  One reason for this is that this so called people that gives signal have high influence on their industry.  So whatever they said, those who follow them ( especially if they have millions of follower) will have a dramatic effect on the market and will have a ripple effect to outside circle.  Imagining a very influencial trader giving signal that x coin will increase by 20x on y time..  Definitely this million followers will buy this x coin and when this y time come, the effect of this buying will greatly increase the price. 
basically , everything are just a speculation. we just make an effort to make sure it won't go wild unexpectedly , when you do analysis at least you have a little control over your plan on trading , not just pure speculation that mostly causing a huge loss.

do more often and learn about the technical analysis and you will feel the different.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Anco_Marzio on January 07, 2018, 10:54:48 PM
Of course, all trading models are just speculations, they don't work perfectly in forex, and they work worst in crypto.
But using a model - even if it is not perfect - it's better than taking decision by gut.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on January 07, 2018, 11:02:12 PM
Of course, all trading models are just speculations, they don't work perfectly in forex, and they work worst in crypto.
But using a model - even if it is not perfect - it's better than taking decision by gut.

In every market there is no accurate result for what ever analysis you made, it is just a pure speculation but it helps a lot to you. Learning how to read charts, can help you decide when to enter and exit in the market. Knowing the basic thing will keep you ahead than others.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: sugihe on January 07, 2018, 11:02:32 PM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

How many time did you already follow them as your signal? If just some time maybe its a luck if always rght.
As my opinion, nobody can play the market for sure, they just predict it.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: ashao1015 on January 07, 2018, 11:26:15 PM
In my opinion there are 2 side of analysis:
-technical analysis
-fundamental analysis

Fundamental is more important but technical has some value as well. I think technical analysis working well because many people use it and believe in it.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: arlington on January 07, 2018, 11:31:11 PM
First of all we have to understand how the market goes and what affects the price, if those analyst have huge influence on people they would definitely attract and create demand which makes prices to go up


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: KeithBeeCham on January 07, 2018, 11:35:55 PM
The essence of trading is that you must analyze and understand the crypto growth carefully to determine and predict the future of the exchange rate of the crypto will increase or decrease, not predict. Everything will need research and full statistics on exchange rates, market volume, whether crypto has the potential in the future or not, etc. This requires good data analysis skills to be able to trade.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Indrawan77 on January 08, 2018, 05:51:53 AM
The chart and other analysis is only a guide to see how is the market react, it's only act as guidance to trade, it will not be 100% correct, especially in crypto trading which we  know all of the price is caused the demand and supply, so all of the trading analysis is based in data which is only speculation, the one that can make it correct if a lot of people believe in trading analysis and do exactly as the analyst said


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: kafeelniazi on January 08, 2018, 06:33:33 AM
I have been doing this for a living now, remember one thing never ever go with guesses of other peoples on different forums. Learn to do TA and FA yourself and then you can decide for yourself where to invest. Depending on guesses of other people will give you short term returns but one big fail and you are done.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: droptableguy2 on January 08, 2018, 06:59:52 AM
Of course, all trading models are just speculations, they don't work perfectly in forex, and they work worst in crypto.
But using a model - even if it is not perfect - it's better than taking decision by gut.
To do business in this market you need to learn a lot of technical analysis to capture this market. A lot of people become very successful by trading everyday. I think technical analysis is purely speculative, not speculative. I'm still learning how to analyze candlestick charts so that I can do better in the crypto market.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: yndye on January 08, 2018, 07:52:37 AM
I have been doing this for a living now, remember one thing never ever go with guesses of other peoples on different forums. Learn to do TA and FA yourself and then you can decide for yourself where to invest. Depending on guesses of other people will give you short term returns but one big fail and you are done.

Listening to others may be profitable in the short run but just remember when they suggested the coin to you, they already hold a bag of the coin so that when more people buy the coin, it would go up and then by the time comes it reaches the target price, they would sell and then for those who got in late would be at a loss. There are so many groups that are suggesting coins what coin to buy or sell without even a support of an analysis and some even charge you for their suggestions but the better way would be to do it yourself because it would benefit you for life if you understand why you buy and sell that coin.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: hula hula on January 08, 2018, 05:20:58 PM
analyzing the price of the coin need the skills, techniques, and experience. so I think not merely speculation


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: redigaffi on January 08, 2018, 06:11:22 PM
Technical analysis is misused, it can't predict price.

Technical analysis can help to know which probabilities the price has to go to one direction or another, but never the length of the movement. For example with the technical analysis you can know the probabilities that the price goes up, or down, but you cant know if it a small/large movement. It cant predict to which price it will go up or down, it is only there to calculate the probabilities of going up or down but never the amount of the movement!!


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: naerap on January 08, 2018, 06:20:55 PM
analyzing the price of the coin need the skills, techniques, and experience. so I think not merely speculation

In the classical market, yes, but in the current circumstances, the price of a coin can increase severalfold simply because of the hype on the forum or pump groups, so this is a controversial issue.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Oilacris on January 08, 2018, 06:55:48 PM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
Dont ever believe that theres a man do exist on this world could able to predict movement prices.They might able to guess or predict on possible movements for some time but doesnt mean that they would able to predict next movement later on. Prices on this market is way too volatile.Predicting with basis is common among experts which would somehow give probability on hitting the right the right order either buy or sell.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: raven.tiu17 on January 08, 2018, 07:43:57 PM
It can be both. There's a two type of trading fundamentals and technicals. Most of the newbies are speculating coins they are for money not the company. but if you read some whitepaper and roadmap you analyze about the coinmarketcap you're a fundamentalist! then pick a coin that has potential.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Hazaki on January 08, 2018, 08:00:02 PM
Analysis is a good practice for any activity that a person can intend to achieve ( even gambling ! ) . And since cryptos have a very high fluctuation rate , some of the analysis , if no all of them sometimes go south and nothing that the trader wanted to happen actually happenes  .But even so we can't call it speculation since luck hasn't the upper hand in such activities , and that's why we call it  "speculating the result of a bet" , but we say "studying an investment plan " .

I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

As for such people , their ideas , posts and tweets are as tormented as the sea , and they can't control the market since that can only be done by lots of people who own the majority supply of some coin . Following some investors ideas might turn good sometimes , yet developing your own strategy and taking your own decisions to where put your money is by far better .


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Idrisu on January 08, 2018, 08:03:13 PM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
You might need to study how this market work in other to trade it profitably. The professionals traders analyze the market before putting their hard money into it and most of them understand the movement of coins direction through a combination of different technical indicators. Those analysis are actually real and you should not under rate there speculation as most of them are well informed technically wise.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: bribed on January 08, 2018, 08:41:39 PM
Well I think there is some kind of analysis possible, but after all nobody knows where the market is going. Its just prediction based on chart analysis and experience I guess. But for most crypto markets its very hard to do proper technical analysis because the markets are so young and cant provide sufficient data for a proper technical analysis.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: pugman on January 08, 2018, 09:34:29 PM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
Its only a month you're in with bitcoin,these losses aren't exactly loss,these are more often termed as capital gain/loss. You'll get a loss only when you sell it for crypto or fiat.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
Oh boy,you're so innocent that you don't even know that these are pump and dump groups. These groups are famous as they reveal out the coins  which is going to *increase* due to specific reasons and stupid people believe and buy it,but what these groups do is they buy that coin for a cheaper price and when others start buying it,they dump their holdings,and soon idiots start panic selling their holdings for a loss,and these groups again buy at a cheaper price and the cycle continues.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: annbagira on January 08, 2018, 09:55:52 PM
You know you are awesome and brave person! One of the good advice for you I can give is don't trust to nobody here! Of course you not need become a maniac or paranoiac and expect all people want cheat on you! But you never know who speak with you and why they recommend to you something! Just be attentive and try live with your own experiences, intuition, analyze better you make you own mistakes. It's my opinion! Best to you


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: richardsNY on January 08, 2018, 09:57:30 PM
In the classical market, yes, but in the current circumstances, the price of a coin can increase severalfold simply because of the hype on the forum or pump groups, so this is a controversial issue.

Especially in the altcoin market. If we look at Bitcoin's market, even the best possible traders couldn't have seen this major bull run coming. If we had to believe various well educated and high level traders, it was time to secure profits on various levels, and in all cases they have been wrong. It's even safe to say that probably 99% of the speculations have been wrong in the run-up to the latest bull run, and those who were right, were just guessing without any actual logical sense to back it up. It just shows that holding has been the far better option overall, especially in the last year. Trading in current market requires you to take more risk than ever before....


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: n00bsaibot on January 08, 2018, 10:12:35 PM
Ultimately any market can be manipulated. Some do that by pumping large amounts of money while other do it by spreading rumors (mcafee crypto shilling).

First - pick a project/coin and read their white paper. See if you like a project and what can it bring to the "real world" if mass adopted. If you believe that project is good - invest in it.

Second - No matter how good of a project this might be, there will be market fluctuations so hold on and be patient. One day you are in the green and next you are in deep red. Not every coin "moon's" in matter of days :P

Last - Do not rely on others to give you "the advice", especially on public forums like this one. 99.9% of ppl here ARE NOT financial/crypto advisor's. Do your own research!!!

Best of luck in future investments to all!

 


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: rodskee on January 08, 2018, 10:21:25 PM
Sometimes it is real but we cannot predict the next happening in trading if the price of bitcoin or alts will going to increase or decrease. Even the chart is not permanent at all, it can change also.

Thats very truly correct mate nobody can predict the movement of price stock in the market Need to monitor if want to earn in trading and to avoid rest of the investment.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: gabbie2010 on January 09, 2018, 12:50:33 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?
Well those analysts are experienced traders they had been trading for quite a longer time and have the ability to read or interprets charts obtained from technical analysis and price action  they can also reads news related to a particular coin (fundamental analysis) with all those tools they have the ability to predict or speculates the price correctly although they might not be 100% accurate at all times.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Wagako on January 09, 2018, 01:08:42 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?


They are really sure because of their experiences and they want to share to those other aspiring traders who want to become successful. Their thoughts is not a speculation but it is their experiences. Those expert traders is a good source if we want to trade.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: cydrix on January 09, 2018, 04:51:14 AM
There are some signals that can make you some money but I personally prefer to just do everything myself. Some people are lucky with their guesses but the success almost always depends of the facts of the company, its not a controlled scam, if anything its the complete opposite with how crazy Cryptos numbers are across the board. Its pretty easy just keep up with the news and regularly read the forum, I day trade and make a good amount of money even when the whole market drops just as its doing right now.
Me too i want to do it myself than waiting for signals. They dont really give much informations and they are so sketchy and suspiscious. If you lose on trading it is good why? It can improve your mind to adjust in a more carefull set and that gives you advantage towards picking a coin.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: speem28 on January 09, 2018, 05:16:32 AM
They are always saying that they know how to predict the price and bla bla blah, it has always been a big fake.

No one can predict what is going to happen with the price.

A big analyst said that bitcoin was going to be touching $7k by last week, did it happened? of course not.

They are never going to be able to predict the price just by EMA, Bollinger Bands, head and shoulders, and all that crap.


I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

Yes, and the chance that they are correct out of all their predictions are slim. Yet they continue to analyze/predict the price of cryptocurrencies. This only creates doubts to new comers in the world of cryptos and make them hesitant about taking some risks to what they feel is a good coin.
On the contrary, having these kinds of people who share their analyzations to the forum is also good for us if we look at it in the big picture. What their saying can also be a factor to the price of cryptos because some of us, who are lazy enough to read about the project or make some research about ICOs relies on these good information. They base their decisions to invest after reading these information.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Cryptophorus Columbus on January 09, 2018, 11:51:39 PM
Anything about future is just speculation, in trading or in any other domain. But, as in any other domain, you can find some laws that give an acceptable accuracy about prediction.
In forex, a good analyst can achieve a repeatable success of 70/80%.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Magister Magus on March 26, 2018, 08:56:48 PM
In forex fundamental and technical analysis can be very helpful in taking decisions.
In crypto, the market is so un predictable that usual instruments don't work so well.
But it's better that taking decision by gut!


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: TinkenBeast on March 26, 2018, 09:05:43 PM
I'll say the magic combo is fundamental & technical analysis mix with a good dose of daily news & market update.
But that's the official idea, the unofficial is a bit hum.. how to say, different !


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: stomachgrowls on March 26, 2018, 09:55:28 PM
In forex fundamental and technical analysis can be very helpful in taking decisions.
In crypto, the market is so un predictable that usual instruments don't work so well.
But it's better that taking decision by gut!
No need to bumped out an almost 3 mos. non updated thread but well its still much better compared on making a new topic which do have the same title with this one. Trading analysis which composed by technical and fundamental would be always a good tandem in my own perspective.Ive been using this since into this very volatile market and unlike forex, cryptocurrency market is very very unpredictable but having these tools would give you somehow some basis regarding into your entry points.It might work or not work which you do really need to make decision by some gut.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: restuibu on March 26, 2018, 10:38:16 PM
who can guess the market price in a coin? I think no one can. they just play feeling and accuracy.
so speculation will only predict but it is not perfect yet. anything can happen in the crypto market.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: The Crypto of the Opera on March 26, 2018, 11:05:02 PM
The analysis - technical or fundamental - is very inaccurate and is certainly speculative. But it's always better than moving at random.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: entrepmind23 on March 27, 2018, 02:06:20 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

It is just speculation. These analysts you are talking about may be able to predict the price but they are not always on the spot. Maybe they have given their subscribers the impression that they area always on the spot because they edited their post or delete the post that they are wrong so that you would always believe them.

Psychological factor has a big effect in trading that's why it is easier to trade when you have a small amount because you don't mind that much whether you have profit or lose but when you started to go big, you are concern that you might lose it that's why there are times you end up with losses because you don't follow your trading plan anymore because you are blinded with emotions.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: jambul_kribo on March 27, 2018, 02:14:33 AM
In forex fundamental and technical analysis can be very helpful in taking decisions.
In crypto, the market is so un predictable that usual instruments don't work so well.
But it's better that taking decision by gut!
but in trading invesment that correlated with supply and demand that analysis very usefull.profesional investor use this analisys to put their order in best place.and that place identify with that.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: bk2000 on March 27, 2018, 03:10:01 AM
Nothing works 100% of the time, but technical analysis can create a decent gauge for where the markets are going and the possible inflection points along the way.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: btcjocan on March 27, 2018, 03:40:50 AM
Nothing works 100% of the time, but technical analysis can create a decent gauge for where the markets are going and the possible inflection points along the way.
Everything in crypto feild is just an speculation no one knows what will be the future of this crypto currency it is tge same on trading. Analysis is just like. An speculation because we all know that this trading feild is also unstable if we trade coin we will depend on its volume and price before we do trading. So then I believe that trading analysis is just like an speculation, and maybe it has just having a great basis.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: MahonriCrypto on March 27, 2018, 03:51:12 AM
I think that most of the value from technical analysis comes from the fact that the same patterns are seen and the majority of the traders view those specific supports/resistance level or other signals as a enter or exit point. Like a self fulfilling prophecy.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: minthit on March 27, 2018, 04:05:44 AM
What's really going on here?
Because it's a form of induction. Generally speaking, it's predicting the future based on the past results. So, you need to be careful when you are relying on it.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: hoomg on March 27, 2018, 05:29:01 AM
You can't buy or sell tokens because somebody or someone has said something. You have to use the information you gathered to judge the potential of the token you have, and hold it and wait for an opportunity to sell it.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: richcorner100 on March 27, 2018, 08:08:57 AM
Trading just speculation but will be more better than gambling because we have some analysis before decide to buy or sell the crypto. Trading with strategy can be say much better than gambling because there are more posibility to gain profit consistent.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Cryptoforus Columbus on March 27, 2018, 08:41:49 AM
If the analysis is well done, the probability of obtaining a good result is higher, but there is always a large margin of error.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: lili song on March 27, 2018, 08:53:09 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

Trading in bitcoin for my experience is profitable when playing big or small. Lose in trading is a normal things, when money not be concern for you.
We can't know and control the market actually, in the market every movement is fast and we must make a decision. We just can prediction by see in the market. Some people's learn from their experience and they not sure what will happen after that.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Kurokyy on March 27, 2018, 10:15:43 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

Their patterns are not always go the same way, no one really knows or sure if what will happen to the value of coins in crypto market in the future. That was all predictions and speculation that you can try or not. My advice for you is don't be too greedy, if you think you have enough profit, go and sell out and just make another trade


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Tynovten_ on March 27, 2018, 11:04:29 AM
There's nothing right for 100% from prediction, all only can be analyzed opinion from knowledge that everyday he does.

When the resistance couldn't pass everything will change.

Why you're win when you follow his suggest because you're sure about it.

And why you're lost when you do it by yourself because this just the factor of disbelief on yourself. When you analyze don't deny even a little bit your target. Because when you deny it, that's the beginning of your loss.

Keep on trying because the result of yourself effort is more profitable.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: billtonz123 on March 27, 2018, 11:08:57 AM
in my opinion trading with anylsis just a speculation, if you wanna to be a good trader please learn more about your strategy, anylisis in market and use your money managament for trade, dont be greed in trading because you cant get anything. i said that because i have an experienced about that. so do not experience the same thing. lets learn together and get success.........


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: ivandu on March 27, 2018, 12:30:08 PM
in my opinion trading with anylsis just a speculation, if you wanna to be a good trader please learn more about your strategy, anylisis in market and use your money managament for trade, dont be greed in trading because you cant get anything. i said that because i have an experienced about that. so do not experience the same thing. lets learn together and get success.........
psychology could be the key for our trade.some trader has good technical or fundamental analisys, but they could not control they psychology.and trading result could not maximal.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Coin_Tracker01 on March 27, 2018, 02:20:47 PM
Personally I don't believe much in TA, I think crypto is not suitable for it, it works to a certain degree, but mostly its much more emotion driven plus all the manipulation in media and whales. This market is much easier to manipulate than stocks. So from my experience, looking at charts, gives some guidance, but it works only in some specific cases Id say.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Triffin on March 27, 2018, 08:12:28 PM
who can guess the market price in a coin? I think no one can. they just play feeling and accuracy.
so speculation will only predict but it is not perfect yet. anything can happen in the crypto market.
It is not just about the crypto market or the crypto currencies, even in general no one is able to predict future accurately. We all are supposed to make predictions but not accurate ones. They could be nearly accurate but never ever hell same as the future is. If we take about the crypto market, it is highly fluctuating in nature making it father hard for the people to predict it with high accuracy.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: t2yax on March 27, 2018, 08:20:03 PM
Trading analysis, it could be speculation sometimes it could be also real. Speculations in trading, will also based on ideas and the reality of all resources. In trading analysis, there are the basis on which real scenario occur, and it could lead you some speculation that you can you think or analyze.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Intersan on March 27, 2018, 10:54:35 PM
who can guess the market price in a coin? I think no one can. they just play feeling and accuracy.
so speculation will only predict but it is not perfect yet. anything can happen in the crypto market.
It is not just about the crypto market or the crypto currencies, even in general no one is able to predict future accurately. We all are supposed to make predictions but not accurate ones. They could be nearly accurate but never ever hell same as the future is. If we take about the crypto market, it is highly fluctuating in nature making it father hard for the people to predict it with high accuracy.
There is nothing wrong with making  speculations when it comes to trading.  You see,  speculations come from analysis and it helps in our decision-making.  If you are a real trader,  you can't just decide here without analysis. It is called prediction and  speculation,  and we shouldn't be  pressured if it is not accurate and precise.  Its not supposed to be like that because both terms are related to guessing,  both  terms just means deep guessing and with studying.

We try to analyze the market to see if we are going to earn a profit,  especially when it comes to calculating possible profit,  when we do that we come up with prediction.  As I have said,  there is nothing wrong with it and as fas as I know,  predicting or speculating,  what's important is to get the value as close as what will be in the future.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: atrocityx on March 28, 2018, 12:06:10 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

Two thoughts then a past article.

1. Large amounts of money and influence usually equate to a self-fulfilling prophecy.  You can move the market, or push the market enough with enough people following your advice.  It's like John McCaffee for example.  He may know nothing about coins but because enough people listen to him, they'll push his agenda.
2. Technical Analysis does help min/max your positions but can only squeeze maybe 20 % more from common sense, I'll quote an article where I've talked about this before.

Do you believe in the reliability of information obtained by technical analysis on crypto-currency market?

TL:DR Yes and No.. it depends on the coin..and even if it helps.. common sense and avoiding emotional trading like fomo/fud/greed will take you alot further, especially as a noobie.

I do believe fundamental technical analysis works but only when other traders use it as a basis too... I think BTC/USD for example has high enough volume and enough millionaires/professionals where'd they'd all basically see the same indicators and tools giving them buy and sell signals so it becomes sort of a self fulfilling prophecy.. If you day trade BTC or ETH/USD, fibonacci levels or "just under" seem to play out very well with entry and exit points.. larger broader trades using moving averages and ichi cloud seem to follow stock indicators atleast in a general sense.

The problem with alt coins and btc/eth pairs is when you use technical analysis with these. there tends to be an extra moving part.. because the volatility of the alt coin also primarily goes up and down vs the price of the coin you're purchasing with.. which is often not found in traditional technical analysis since the price of traditional currency is way less volatile.  Any TA can fall apart in seconds if BTC is bull running or dropping.. so the only real way to really use TA in these types of markets is to use it to judge what BTC/USD is going to do, and use that as the primary buy and sell indicator of your favorite alt coins.  You can have a lot of success in alt coins I feel if you can move to BTC fast enough based off of things you see through technical analysis on the BTC chart, because you're moving one step ahead of the best revolving position...Think BTC won't break 9200 USD and we'lll spiral down to 6000 USD again or lower? You could move to USDT to buy BTC at that price again and alts will be waiting for you 50% off.. so the risk you take could net you 50%+ gains just reaching the correction price.. which is the safest of all sell zones to reach again (any price thats happened in the past will be exponentially more likely to be reached again over speculative all time highs).

Anyways.. as far as BTC TA (or even alt coins TA, but  ALWAYS have BTC/USD Bitfinex on tradingview open while trading alts at all times so youre monitoring what the king is doing to help/hurt your trade's cause).. I try not to overcomplicate my predictions.. (breaking supports for profit - See Quickfingers Luc youtube videos this guy explains safe buying zones using nothing but resistance support for basic day trading, really good)

Ones I find useful

Moving Averages on the Day Chart (50/100/200 Day) - I value this one the highest.. its simple, and allows at a glance of scanning coins what has pulled back enough from runups that may be worth looking at if other indicators seem positive
Fibonacci retracements for buy and sell zones (just ideas on where to look for resistance levels to take profit, always leave the areas a bit lower, since everyone uses these to sell as zones, hence the more who use TA, the more of a self fulfilling propechy it becomes.
Bollinger Bands (sometimes I use these just to see how tightly wound things are getting when trying to break out from descending wedges/bull flags/etc.
MACD and RSI (just a quick indicator to pair with others to confirm the information the other indicators are showing me)
Ichimoku Cloud - Love seeing the overhead resistances and when on bull runs if its starting to fall flat.. this indicator isn't good on its own but like using with others.

Things I don't find useful:
Elliot Wave Theory - I can certainly appreciate the concept and I think overall the general concept of any 1-5 wave will lead to an ABC correction in a general sense is good, but as a predictive price to buy or sell at, it seems way too optomistic 99 times out of 100 to me.  When chasing coins on a pullback however I do wait for the confirmed C pattern to form.. the problem is large runups can lead to a very long C extension (especially when paired to BTC acting up) so its just best to wait for confirmed reversal pattern over trying to buy based off of the measurement of C.
RSI alone - alot of people use RSI alone for whatever reason which I don't feel is a good idea.. it can in a general sense  show if something is overbought or oversold, but something can rally oversold for days or weeks..btc in 2017 is a good example... if you sell when something is overbought or buy when its oversold, youre gonna miss alot of the tops of runups and get cut by the falling knife as it just becomes even more oversolid.. wait for other indicators to confirm what the RSI is telling you.


Anyways I do find some of the tools useful, but like all things nothing is always a perfect science.  Even if you think TA is complete garbage.. use common sense when trading.. do not buy things in parabolic runups and dont buy coins all at once price (make sure to ladder into positions so you cost average.. and YES sometimes that means you will miss some of the bottom).  At the end of the day I think TA can help you min/max your results with some practice.. but most of the gains comes from using common sense... buy low sell high and not fomoing or getting too greedy or panicking.  If you are a new person work on managing your emotions and common sense first then work on perfecting your TA later.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: inquisition15 on March 28, 2018, 12:27:29 AM
All the trading analysis isn't real at all, they're all predictions which means they can be true or not .
If it comes true then yeah it's great but if not it's no problem because it's just a prediction.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: aliwinchester on March 28, 2018, 01:39:16 AM
Trading analysis is all prediction and it could be came from experts or newbie because everyone can make predictions.
Only trust analysis which were from people that you think they're good in this session.
Specially don't trust a random analysis chart.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Redhead5 on May 24, 2018, 03:22:58 AM
All the trading analysis isn't real at all, they're all predictions which means they can be true or not .
If it comes true then yeah it's great but if not it's no problem because it's just a prediction.

In my own point of view trading analysis is real to experienced individual who are more knowledgeable to do it. Because trading can be learn fully by doing it always and get successful for so many times. But trading through speculation sometimes will matter also.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: andriarto on May 24, 2018, 04:00:55 AM
All the trading analysis isn't real at all, they're all predictions which means they can be true or not .
If it comes true then yeah it's great but if not it's no problem because it's just a prediction.

In my own point of view trading analysis is real to experienced individual who are more knowledgeable to do it. Because trading can be learn fully by doing it always and get successful for so many times. But trading through speculation sometimes will matter also.
if in my opinion, trading is not certain. but with technical analysis and fundamental analysis, we can predict the run of price. so i think trading analysis is a measured speculation, which can give a real profit


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: CASTIEL05 on May 24, 2018, 05:19:45 AM
Technical Analysis is predicting of future price based upon the trading history. If you have knowledge about technical analysis then you can go along or contrast what will the market move. We have our own analysis, so I consider technical analysis as speculative measurement for the traders.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: eekkaa on May 24, 2018, 05:46:29 AM
analysis of trading in my opinion is very real and not price speculation because I see trading analyst always need a line used to see the movement of coin price that will happen so trading analysis depends on the existing graph.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: AakZaki on May 24, 2018, 07:14:44 AM
Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

sometimes technical analysis is not appropriate as we expected, for it not only rely on the analysis alone but with fundamental predictions as well.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Joemzz31 on June 05, 2018, 07:31:35 PM
Actually theres a times that trading analysis, it is real or speculation but it is not one hundred percent accurate to trust, it cant really help you because it is not properly build to use as a reference or what in this situation, better keep it up.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Sean25pogi on June 23, 2018, 07:22:25 AM
I think the trading analysis is just speculations
because there is no one hundred percent accyrate that will be the outcome and price of certain electronic coin in the world trading market,


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: nelsledma on June 25, 2018, 06:10:04 AM
I think the trading analysis is just speculations
because there is no one hundred percent accyrate that will be the outcome and price of certain electronic coin in the world trading market,
Nothing is certain here in trading but your mind is so powerful to predict something based on previous data. Technical analyses help you to make something good out of your investment. Although that wouldn’t be official or authentic hundred percent but you may be getting a rough idea and sketch that what can be done and how to be done. Things are there for you, use them.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: Choii on June 25, 2018, 06:48:18 AM
If you want to trade, the first thing you neeed to learn is accepting the fact of losing money.

Exactly, especially if you don't have any knowledge or skill when it comes on trading industry, because if you don't know how to trade you need to learn how to use technical analysis in the market to know where it goes.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: okala on June 25, 2018, 07:13:20 AM
If you know how to interpret candlesticks pattern and you have experience on the price behavior, you can actually makes an inform trading decision by technical analysis.  If you have been loosing in investing into cryptocurrencies Is,  will advise you to hold until you are able to get enough experience to trade professionally.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: TheDarkRide on June 25, 2018, 08:43:24 AM
If you want to trade, the first thing you neeed to learn is accepting the fact of losing money.

Exactly, especially if you don't have any knowledge or skill when it comes on trading industry, because if you don't know how to trade you need to learn how to use technical analysis in the market to know where it goes.

Even though we have skill there is no guarantee that we will always make the right decision. So, trading analysis is more likely a speculation for me. Only trading with the money that we can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Trading analysis, is it real or speculation.
Post by: micle222 on July 29, 2018, 05:43:55 AM
Trading the analysis is just speculation and it will not be your guarantee of success or profit in any trade.

Trading is the key, be patient, try and pray and experience that makes people know going up and down ny Cryptocurrency market.