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In my opinion all crypto prices are based on speculation.
Bitcoin is too expensive to make 5x returns.
People are looking for quick money-Ripple-South Korea drove the price up-The Koreans are the main drivers of these markets-they made Bitcoin what it is.

Indeed, bitcoin is too expensive but not impossible to make 5x profits, even though it may take months to achieve that.
On the other hand, ripple is gaining too much value in the last few days, it's on bull run right now, but will be corrected in the end obviously. Yes, you can make easy and faster profit if invest in ripple, but there is no any guarantee that it will fall significantly after you invest in xrp, and vice versa, it's a gambling time; is it the peak or xrp will continue to reach higher point?

Yes you can be profitable to BITCOIN of you have patience

If you want more profit in bitcoin all you need is patient to wait. Investing in bitcoin is like a time deposit have time maturity and you will see your effort to wait your investment will gain in high profitable income.

Am i the only one who hates that kind of people who are only in here to make a quick bucks just like you are saying, i clearly hate them.

And ripple is the worst coin that has ever existed, 100% centralized, no limited supply, what is the real purpose of a ripple?

Only to buy and speculate, and now everybody is saying that the price will be $20, let's just cut the crap in here guys.

Even when Bitcoin is too expensive now it does not mean that investing in Bitcoin can not make you a lot of profit. Still Bitcoin's price is still cheaper than to the price of it in the future.

The huge price is what makes it more profitable even with the smallest of traders. A $100 movement can already be converted into a profit if the trader knows when to execute a trade. Instead of scaring people away, the price is what attracts people to invest and give bitcoin a try.

On the other hand, people who only look for quick money are the losers in the end. Being impatient in trading and not digging into the clutter of mess is what makes one trader inefficient and not able to make profits in their trades. While news and rumors play a big part, again, the outcome of the price depends on every traders' decision-making

High value of bitcoin means that there were rapid growth of adopters in bitcoin and through this its value will fluctuates that we can't imagine..or it will surpass to what we have expected.It is tested through times as a matter of fact if i will be an early adopters im already a millionaire as of this time.All those who wait will gain more profit than those who have less patience.In crypto world we all need to have patience if we all wanted to profit more.

this is such a funny statement :D
bitcoin was "too expensive" when it was $1000 too, according to many like you. but it still went up 19-20x times. it was actually "too expensive" back when it reached $1 too, i can show you the topics in speculation board calling it that if you like and it still went up ~20000x

there is no denying how different pumping groups are pumping altcoins that are small and easy to manipulate. but i don't get what is the relationship between an altcoin getting pumped and your subject here!

No. I am still confidence bcos I am sure bitcoin will be more good in short time

To me Bitcoin is a difference between other currencies, if not profitable is also incorrect. In the past you may not get profit from it but you are sure teeth in this 2018 it will not be profitable? I think yes. Because Bitcoin is working with great potential, I think it's very profitable

Good! people without experience in cryptocurrencies or trading shouldn't get into Bitcoin with the hope of gaining profits and make some quick bucks. At least with the recent dips we might be getting rid of the weak hands and those who only cared about getting rich.

Ripple? sure, I'd recommend anyone to invest...in the Ripple company, not in a overvalued centralized bankers coin like XRP.

Oh, and you can always choose those $1 or less altcoins and expect x10 profits, enjoy holding those bags of shitcoins.
Finally, what is this nonsense you say about 'the korean made Bitcoin what it is', are you just trolling or do you actually believe in the stupidity that you just posted?

Saying South Korea made bitcoin what it is would mean that even without South Korea bitcoin would not be what it is today. What would the Chinese now say or the Americas or the entire Europe couple with the whole of Africans. Bitcoin would still be what its going to be and let's quit giving glory to some people who might start feeling that they are major stakeholders in bitcoin.

If you have a patience definitely you can have more profit in bitcoin.Especially when you know how to transact and deal with it if you can have more patience you will earn more from bitcoin . Just be responsible to your actions and have a patience. Investing of bitcoin definitely you can have many profit.

But you can buy other altcoin such like BCH since it's value already increase up to 10x times from initial ICO
Bitcoin is too expensive for new investor so better to more carefull before regret !

What do you expect with people right now that are getting interested with bitcoin and because of the value of bitcoin it is gaining popularity because of its price, many would surely be tempted by it, I will ask you are you not tempted in gaining profit too? Why are you here in the first place, I really think that you can sure gain profit towards bitcoin but you can also take responsibility in taking good care of it in keeping bitcoin alive in gaining the popularity it needed, I myself are taking credit from profiting from it but getting rich is not the top priority, And Speaking of the shit coins you are talking about, Many are holding their tokens that have gain profit towards it, you can never say if it's really a shit coin or not, I truly admit that 90% of them are really not worth taking time and effort but recently many tokens have gain good value in just an instant and many have gain profit because of these just saying.

People invest in bitcoin and altcoin for the profits it brings so there will not be any investors investing in bitcoin investments if it does not make a profit for investors......

Not just the Koreans who made the bitcoin where it is, then who are the people who made bitcoin strong and valuable, we the crypto enthusiast and investors are the people behind the success of bitcoin, well if you know how cryptocurrency works like unpredictable currencies then you can make 5x returns with a decent amount of investments to risk, crypto prices are not based on a mere speculations, it is the demand who dictates the price of a coin.

Yeah, I remember thinking the same in January 2017 when Bitcoin just crossed $1,000 and people were making bold predictions about how high the price could run in 2017.

The 5x or any measure of value growth for Bitcoin or a cryptocurrency is driven by the demand. So we have to consider could demand for Bitcoin increase 5 times in 2018, globally? Sure! Will it? Who knows....it's so hard to say.


And, yeah, this is 100% correct. In fact, all investment prices are based on speculation. Speculation that buying something today at a specific price could allow someone to sell that same thing in the future for a higher price drives all investment markets!

That's true because the longer you wait, the higher your profit is. If you will not be patient of waiting for your bitcoin to gain profit,  it could be very difficult for you to gain big amount of money because it can't grow more since you are not patient enough for it to grow more and more. It also needs confidence to earn additional bitcoin by joining some campaigns.

Let get-rich-quick gamblers have their fun with alts.

At least it will temporary remove some of the more risk-affine speculators from the BTC market, giving BTC some time stabilize. The alt coin dance will end soon enough, question being whether pumpers will cash out to fiat or BTC.

Patience is the total key to earn good credits when you are here in Bitcoin world. If you don't have it all, better try other job. Time will help you invest  good price of bitcoin.

The BTC price on August 16 was $ 1,600. now 12k $. This is 8x that's it. If you wait well and shoot in time, you can make a lot of money. the forecast for 2018 is 55k $ for 1 pcs. In January there will be a good time to buy. But the fact of the price must be checked all the time ...

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This type of people simply does not understand how the crypto world works. They were expecting an easy money back type of scheme. Sad to say most of them are Filipinos, risking even if they know that they don't have enough knowledge yet about what the type of business they are on to, as long as they can get their ROI as soon as possible.

To benefit from bitcoin we have to be confident, passionate and confident that the struggles and work we do will benefit us, when I first join bitcoin, I am also a bit afraid of whether to succeed or fail, but because my friend always gives me The spirit was finally convinced that everything went well and it turned out that a few months later I could feel the result of my struggle

Could you make your point clearer.
Risk-There is none.
Filipinos- How do they come into the equation.
People is a plural so these is applicable
Does = do
Easy= adjective, does not require an
I give-up it is a grammatical nightmare!
Good luck in your conquests!

Sometimes it's a piece of cake to make x5 profit with BTCs, but in another moments it's not... We can't predict all our movements correctly, sometimes we will do foolish and lose some profit, but inevitable. To move our money to another currency for this reason is even worse, an AltCoin can look interesting now, but nothing Bitcoin can't surpass soon. Meanwhile, others will accumulate the BTCs you are selling, then you will have only some worthless coins of another currency to hold.

Indeed ripple is on a rampage the last days, yet there is no guarantee that it will last until it will reach what bitcoin has accomplished. So far investing in ripple is also a good idea since it is still rising and surpassed ethereum as second most reliable cryptocurrency second to bitcoin. But you cant change the fact that bitcoin is still thebest cryptocurrency to invest with.

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there is a profit for sure. so be better patiently to wait and continue to working on it until you reach the deadline and be confidence to do your task. your experience is happen also to the other and don't listen to the negative word coming from the other person that complaining of waiting of profit.

Well of course because bitcoin is a long-term investment I mean men what are you saying 5,000 USD is impossible here in bitcoin and it is clearly not pure speculation because there are already those millionaires here because of bitcoin especially those who have waited a long time for bitcoin price to increase much I mean if you take a look at the previous price sir, no harms mean, peace yow :)

These markets are no doubt rife with speculation, they're just trying to get money from cryptocurrency speculation, they don't know what bitcoin is.

It's sad that on bitcointalk, most posts read exactly like this one.  Total garbage.

I can't even send $150 to anyone from Mycelium because it's asking for a $45 fee.  How broken can this shit get when you can't even spend your money?  Maybe it's just my wallet, but I do know that a lot of people have transactions backed up.  And all these mealy-mouthed motherfuckers writing generic shitposts for altcoin campaigns.

I am sorry for you about the 45 USD FEE. Please share why this is the case-45 USD FEE!

One should learn to profit from bitcoins, if you see people are buying and selling physical bitcoins and are ready to pay more for that, I mean a premium. People are missing a major loophole with bitcoins, every country has priced it differently, so buy where it is cheaper and sell where its selling for a premium. Of course bitcoins were always speculative, all you need to play the game well.

Bitcoin is too dangerous to get involved in:

WAKE UP

It was built on speculation
Who wants to speculate now? A FOOL!
The Bitcoin whales are moving into alts!

you know my friends people always taking about profit when they talk about or any other currency for that matter but what you foret that bitcoin was made as a currency not anything there are users are buying and sekking goods with bitcoin and othe altcoins not only about the profit from it and also the price of crypto coins depend on the demand and order of such a coin that' all ...

It was always expensive and will be expensive until it justifies its real world usage value rather than being used as an asset. But, that will be possible only when it becomes fast and inexpensive to use like it was in the early days.

op aint talking about signature campaigns here. and  i believe your reffering to it? im a right or wrong?



i think op doesnt want a counsel or suggestions from other users.




no , it is not. price of crypto are based on the demand and supply or should i say manipulation of the whales.


bitcoin is not expensive at all because you can still buy it in a half or smaller units and also bitcoin sometimes goes in a dip or crash therfore you can still be able to buy it in a bargain price. you can also get a 5x  return no matter what amount you put in or invest as long as you can wait for it to pump again.


no they arent. people and whales are the ones who control the price or the markets of crypto  and not just a single country.

Yes , your argument to have ripple vs bitcoin is true because here we everyone knows that the ripple coin is a banking sector coin which is uses by 10+ countries in this world , and as new year is today so we can see that people from foreign country to own country send money through bank and banks are sending through ripple coin use that is making the demand of ripple more than what it remains over the whole year after the days of new year celebrations , so here we can say that currently better for us to have trading in ripple with bitcoin .
But don't forget that bitcoin is king and no one can beat it , and also big wilp be up and will turned into 10 times at the end of the year .

It's not impossible to make 5 times profit but yes..it will take a lot of time and no one wants to invest time .. people want quick... Results.. they want..they invest today and tomorrow... They are bathing in money, it's just not possible and also if market..starts ... Making people rich like this then there is literally no turning back ..these kinds of presumptions only exists in a mind of a newbie, old folks know the value of patience..

what do you mean not confidence? i still can not understand.
maybe you try to say that not confidence to hold longer make us panic sell and ending with not profit.

What I am trying to say is people are not confident given its high price. I think people are looking for better value coins to turn a profit!

Understand what you're asking for. I agree that bitcoin is expensive now to buy compared with altcoins which is not even 10% of bitcoin's price. However the growth of bitcoin can be achieved x5 times definitely. Buying bitcoin is based on the money in hand or the confident we have on it.

You need a little patience to make a profit in bitcoin. Nothing is instant but it all takes a process, if you want 5x profit you should wait for a few months.

I agree with you, we can invest with altcoin like BCH, ETH, LTC and other most popular altcoin. I've heard the news that altcoin prices will go up and will beat BTC.

Bitcoin is expensive now but not before. If people have invested in bitcoin years ago, then they could have earned a profit of more than 5 times. Right now, maybe it can still happen to people, but times are more difficult now. And even if it would, it takes time. It is not quick instantaneous money for anyone. If you want to earn quick, invest huge. But the risk for loses is huge also.

I don’t think it is not profitable investing in Bitcoin. IMO, it is just a temporary pump for ripple. This has happened a few times in 2017. Once the dump started, many people tend to stop talking about ripple.