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Hi.
What rx 580 to choose? There is so freaking many of them.

Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8GB Nitro+ SE seems to be the best?

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CHEAP IS BEST, so find the cheapest GPU with dual fans if you in HOT area or you can go with 1 fan if in COLD area.

Good:

Gigabyte Aorus RX 580. This model is heavily overclocked out of the box (1439 MHz) and has a new cooler that's a huge upgrade over the Gigabyte RX 480. The card been praised as being cool and keeping clocks stable and Newegg claims that temperatures and noise levels are excellent.

Sapphire Nitro RX 580. Sapphire revamped the cooling solution and the Nitro RX 580 is a huge upgrade over the Nitro RX 480. The cooler is quiet and remains at 75 C or below even at a 1450 MHz clock speed. This review has the Nitro 580 being quieter than a EVGA GTX 1060 SSC which is pretty crazy.

Sapphire Pulse RX 580.The Pulse RX 580 has three heatpipes on the bottom of the heatsink which is the same configuration as the Nitro 480 (look at the image above). The Pulse 580 heatsink is definitely different from the Nitro RX 580 (the image above shows that the Nitro 580 has two heatpipes on top and two on the bottom). Thus, I still think that the Pulse 580 has the same heatsink as the Nitro 480, which makes the review's findings quite unexpected. A new review for the Pulse 580 was released; it confirms that the Pulse 580 cooler is actually improved over the Nitro 480 with a larger heatsink and an extra heatpipe.. I've moved it from "probably good" to "good" since its thermals and fan noise are pretty good, especially for the price.

Thanks.
The cheapest ($361) is Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 4GB Aorus. 1381 mhz. 2 fans.

The most expensive ($120 more) is ASUS Radeon RX 580 8GB ROG Strix Top Gaming, 1431 mhz. 3 fans.

About 40 mhz difference, will it be noticable?

A $120 premium for a RX 580 is absolutely not worth it no matter what type of RX 580 it is. The difference will be minimal if it's even noticeable. The price for the card is a little more than I am accustomed to seeing in the US, but if you really want to start mining now then go ahead. I've been seeing 570 4GB cards in the US near $200 USD recently. Both the 70 and 80 cards hash almost identically, and what's cheapest is usually best if there are memory mods/straps for the card.

Whats normal power draw from 580 cards? The specs says 250W. But some sites says 125-150w.

110-125 (undervolt).

Thanks.
Ended up ordering 570's 👍

Cheapest is the BEST, faster ROI.

Are all 570 and 580 the same? I am also wondering ordering "ASUS Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual"

no there not the same, while some might come sorta close none of them are the same, has to deal with how the chips and other components they use are binned, like for instance the difference between gpu having Hynix memory or Samsung. everyone knows the Samsung in most cases can be oced the most and is pretty darn stable, while Hynix not so much, really gotta find the sweet spot with those

Thanks for the fast reply.

Would u consider 'ASUS Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual' and 'Sapphire 570 4gb nitro+' to mine at the same speed if both have samsung memory?

I have an Asus Radeon RX 580 8GB Dual with Hynix memory and a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 570 4GB with Elpida memory, after BIOS mod and overclock/undervolt I get the same speed on both with Claymore (30.1 Mh/s), both draw 105W from the wall, the only difference is that the Sapphire runs at 37C while the Asus at 55C...

Hmmmm.
Maybe I will wait 2 more months for the sapphire 570 then...

Don't know if 2 months later you can get what we got for now. If its me I go with the cheapest and dual fan even hashrate slightly low. What we really need is faster ROI.

Get the Rx 580 MSI cards bro. I think this is little cheaper than the other brand. In place to place card price varies in the market so you have to check the best rate and buy the card. Brand is not a matter to get the heavy hashes or something.
All the other brands cards with the same specs will not provide the same hashes. So check the any mining cards like RX series cards you can make decent money than other cards.

well. I would say buy any RX580 8GB card you may find
this is really tough task now, all stocks are over @ normal price(
for y taste asus strix RX580 if you may find it - looks decent!

Any difference between 4GB and 8GB cards? Almost impossible to find 8GB cards, but some 4GB are still around.

Other than possibly having a better chance of coming with better memory, there is not much difference in hash rate between 4GB and 8GB cards of the same model. The main difference would be a better resale value in the future. Though IMO, it's not worth paying more than an extra $25 per card.

Buy what ever you can for as close to $300 each as possible. I've found that anyone that I've gotten is getting with in 1Mh/s or less of any of the other ones - all above 30Mh/s (right about 31Mh/s) single mining and all right in the 29.5-30.5Mh/s dual mining. I've got XFX, MSI, Asus, and PowerColor. All of them are stable at 1200 CPU / 2150 MEM. I could probably tweak them all a little bit on voltage and speed, but the down time doesn't make it worth it.

The 570 is also a great buy, the one XFX one I have is running at 28.75 Mh's while dual mining. Honestly probably the bet ROI, out of all the cards - but I got it for $229.

I got 6 Saphire Nitro + LE, but I paid A LOT for them.

This thread answers exactly the question in my mind. Thank you all for sharing!

Truly amazing where prices have gone in the past 30 days!  I purchased two 580-based video cards right after Christmas - one Sapphire Nitro+ 580 4GB and one Asus ROG Strix 580 8GB "Top" OC edition.  I bought an Asus ROG Strix GTX1080 8GB OC edition about two weeks before that for $560, also.

I paid nearly $350 for the Asus card, and just under $300 for the Sapphire.  Looking around last night for "more of the same", the cheapest I could find the Asus "T8G" model is over $550 and the Sapphire Nitro+ 4GB is going for over $450 on eBay and unavailable for the most part on Amazon and NewEgg.  That Asus 1080 has just evaporated, I guess - last price I can find was over $1000.

Those are STUPID expensive prices for cards, and I suppose that we miners are to blame for these absurd prices, because you just can't buy GPU cards for a reasonable price no matter where you look right now.  Maybe there are a couple of places I don't normally look for them, but those have always been my 3 "goto" websites for computer parts of all types.

I was thinking about trying a GTX1070ti but those are priced around $800-$1000 right now.  That's freakin' crazy!  Since I am basically only doing Ethereum - at least for now with most other coins being strangled by ASIC devices, I guess that the 4GB cards are fine - for now.  I read that the 4GB cards will likely be unusable for Ethereum beyond a certain epoch in the not too distant future (let's say a year?) when the DAG overruns that 4GB size, but the exact time that happens remains to be seen - at least for now.

Current Dag Size 2,3 GB. Every one year increased more 1 GB, the maybe year 2020 or 2021 Dag size 4 GB. So Card 4 GB have time 2 years again or maybe less 2 years (just my prediction and Opinion). So, I started buying GPUs 8 GB or above.

I only buy the 4GB's for cheaper. My reasoning is firstly Ethereum should go POS before 2020 so it wouldn't matter. Secondly in 2 years the RX 580 will be devalued a lot with the new AMD GPU's that will arrive and thirdly apart from ETH AMD cards are only better than NVIDIA at Cryptonight therefore memory size doesnt matter

One that is available

The best advice for current market.
But if you have a choice, Sapphire alltime readeon cards best designer/manufacturer

Based on my experience i would vouch for saphire nitro + rx 580 1440 mgz out of the box with the best cooling system ever used for Now its very Good for the hot areas in the earth

sapphire nitro + builts very stable. high hashrate and low heat values. with a good OC settings power consumption can under controlled as well.

Hi there, I am planning to buy this GPU as my first mining card in the coming days/weeks. But I need help deciding which one to buy, since as the OP says there are so many of them. So I wanted to summon community’s opinion on “what are the factors you base your buying decisions (for GPUs) on?” Is it chip producer, brand, MHz out of the box, how many vents, power consumption, ability to overclock... etc? Thanks

I was thinking to get this one:

GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 Gaming 8GB GDDR5, Chip: Polaris 20 XTX (Ellesmere XTX) "GCN Gen4", 1257MHz, Boost: 1355MHz (OC Mode)

Most of the things you should keep in mind while choosing your GPU are:

Ventilation, in the 580 series the Sapphire Nitro+ has the best ventilation of these cards, every other version is inferior to it.
Durability, in this area Gigabyte does a bit better although by not that much.
Price, in this area Gigabyte is still a bit better although not by that much even here.

Keep in mind those three criteria when buying a GPU, these criteria will not enable you to make a mistake while buying.

Although Rx 580 is not profitable nowadays with only about 0.5 dollars per card in mining rewards.

My rigs have only XFX cards, had bought from others vendors, but sold all others cards after few days.

My rigs:
XFX RX 580 8GB Samsung = 31 mh/s 95W
XFX RX 580 4GB Hynix = 30 mh/s 90W
XFX RX 570 4GB Elpida = 30 mh/s 95W
XFX RX 470 4GB Hynix = 30 mh/s 95W

Saphire it's good too, so go with XFX or Saphire.

yea, I have 1 XFX 570 too, but it has 10 C - 15 C more when mining comapred to Shappire 580.

I'd recommend you to buy cards with good radiators. Memory is almost equal now and it is difficult to check what chip in the box. I think that Sapphire produces the best AMD cards.

I have no problem with this, I'm living in Brazil too hot here, but gpu goes to 60º maximum.
I'm using claymore with -tt 60 function.

Wow, this is exactly the kind of info from experienced miners I was looking for. Based on the above info I decided to get the Sapphire Nitro+ as it is only 30€ or something like that more expensive than the card I was thinking to buy previously.  @swogerino could you suggest other, more profitable GPUs?  @Privatoria I remember reading somewhere that certain chips overclock easier than others (or something along these lines), that’s why asked about it. But good to know that they play no role, less things to consider for me 😉

I think you really need a power meter not just reading GPUz data

Unfortunately all the Gpu-s are not as profitable as they used to be. The other profitable cards are the high end ones like Rx Vega 64 and 1080 but they cost almost the double if not more than the Rx 580 so for the moment it is better to stick with the Rx 580 especially if you are just starting out to test the waters.

Mining rewards are not what they used to be and in fact they are very low compared to what they used to be.

This is from the wall, not GPU-Z.

Care to share your clock settings or mods done?

or some actual pictures taken from the powerwatt wall

Im just amazed on achieving those power figures for such hashrates

at least if its really possible then there is somethin that I could look up to achieve

I call total BS.
You can't have a total system power draw of 95W with any of these GPUs mining at that speed.

thanks for taking time to reply to me.
As you say, those cards are way too expensive for me, so I will stick to RX580 just to give mining a try. Will see how it goes and will decide later whether to get more powerful card or not. thank you for your support

Offcourse, just tell me what bios you desire and I'll turn rig on and upload this to you. I have only RX 580 with 4GB and 8GB at this moment,2 rigs with RX 470 and RX 570 cards already sold out.
I cant take a picture at now, cause my rigs are offline now, here in Brazil my energy cost 0.22, not mining these days, but I'll try to take some pictures tomorrow or after and if you desire I'll upload my edited bios here.

A take some pictures before shutting down my rigs, to announce in local classifieds:
https://imgur.com/DvEydl8
https://imgur.com/236GAfr

6 GPU's working with one 750W PSU


You can believe in what you want, I'm not here selling nothing or to prove anything.
Just sharing my opinion and knowledge.

Offcourse my watimeter can get erros, but on GPU-Z shows 60~70W from GPU energy.
Same GPU-Z show a Saphire card at 110W and watimeter shows 130~140w

I believe those numbers. I'm running a little throttled at the moment do to high ambient temps but my MSI 8G 580's are happy at 30mh at 80-85W.  It's a two mobo, 9 gpu ''garden'' pulling 1150 at the wall.

Thanks bud

waiting for the clocks settings or mod settings done

And of course the pictures


if you could also post some pictures and clocks settings might be really much appreciated bro

sure thing power saving is one of the most important goals on todays market

Any rx580 with dual fan is better ,higher heat discharge

RX 580 asus strix and sapphire nitro+ are my top 2 choices. But asus strix is beast!

Sorry my friend I cant find my powermeter, but here is screenshot of my pc:
https://imgur.com/CHQWofP

I mount these two card on pc just to take that screenshot.
GPU0 is XFX RX 580 8GB Samsung memory
GPU1 is XFX RX 580 4GB Hynix memory

If you want copy of my bios just let me know, and I'll upload to anywhere, cause dont know how to attach files on this forum.