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Title: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 04, 2013, 06:59:14 PM
Hi! Check out the new poker site I created: http://boot52.nl. Boot52 offers free online poker right from your browser, no downloads or registration required. And of course, bitcoin tables are also available for those who prefer a little more excitement!

My goal was to create an 'instant gratification' poker site where even non-bitcoiners could get started right away with play money. My hope is to get some of the recreational players out there involved in bitcoin. Some features:

* Anonymous: no annoying registration forms to fill out.
* Instant play: just click play!
* Works on most mobile devices (tested on iPad, FireFox, and Chrome)
* Built with HTML5 WebSockets and CSS3. No flash or Java plugins required.
* Nearly instant deposits and withdraws.

Texas Hold'em ring games are currently offered, but the software is still under active development so please let me know what features you'd like to see in future! Pot-Limit Omaha, Sit-N-Go's, and 'provably fair shuffling' are next on my todo list, but I'm open to other ideas if they're popular enough. https://boot52.nl


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: vlees on August 04, 2013, 07:39:59 PM
Sanitize userinput.

I could do evil stuff (like read out other peoples cards), instead I did this:

Code:
ws = new WebSocket('wss://boot52.nl/holdem/' + getSock());
ws.onmessage = function(e){
  ws.send(JSON.stringify({chat: ["<script>ws=new WebSocket('wss://boot52.nl/holdem/1');ws.onmessage=function(e){ws.send('{\"chat\":[\"LEL\"]}');};</script>"]}));
  ws.close();
};


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 04, 2013, 09:25:39 PM
Good catch vlees! I added a regex to strip out nonalphanumeric characters from user input, which should prevent this type of nefarious activity in the future.  Send me your user name on the site and I'll add some chips to your account (which you can withdraw immediately if you want).  

Great to catch these bugs now before any real money is on the line. Do your worst!


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: vlees on August 04, 2013, 11:02:48 PM
Send me your user name on the site

vlees

Also, can I login as this user again on another computer or is that account lost as soon as I delete my cookies?
EDIT: NVM, found the secret link.

EDIT2: When you create a new account the playmoney is set to 2000. According to the FAQ you can always update the playmoney and trying to set it to 1000000 gives an error: must be 2000 or lower. So I try 2000, and it resets my money to 800...

EDIT3: when you check my account you see I have an insane amount of play chips. I was unable to add them to the table at once and had to do so in steps of 9000000.

EDIT4: With your regex you filter out spaces in the chat, which is kinda annoying.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: Lizmay on August 05, 2013, 01:51:11 AM
Nice page, layout was great on my IPad.  I didn't make any fat finger mistakes, like normal.  I love being able to play right away and not having to create an account without a test run.   I'll be back for sure.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 05, 2013, 02:46:16 AM
vlees
Added 500 chips to your account available for withdraw anytime!

EDIT2: When you create a new account the playmoney is set to 2000. According to the FAQ you can always update the playmoney and trying to set it to 1000000 gives an error: must be 2000 or lower. So I try 2000, and it resets my money to 800...
Fixed. Max play money was set to 100 x big_blind, or 800 at 4/8 tables and 2000 at 10/20 tables. I agree this is confusing and now I have it set to simply 2000.

EDIT3: when you check my account you see I have an insane amount of play chips. I was unable to add them to the table at once and had to do so in steps of 9000000.
Funny, very funny. But you make a good point. I've modified the code to never allow more than 2000 in play money.

EDIT4: With your regex you filter out spaces in the chat, which is kinda annoying.
Fixed. Regex now allows white spaces in the chat. Looks like I needed something better than s/\W//g :)

Thanks for all the great feedback!


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: vlees on August 05, 2013, 11:33:18 PM
Nice. This site needs players though. So some sealsofclubs people should come here and play, without a registration (definitely the one thing I always hated at poker sites).

EDIT: Had a nice for-money game today. What I noticed: there is no betting before the cards are dealt. Something I remember to be in the Texas Hold'em rules (long time ago that I played that game (for money) so I'm not sure).


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: Hfleer on August 06, 2013, 12:32:20 PM
Hi! Check out the new poker site I created: http://boot52.nl. Boot52 offers free online poker right from your browser, no downloads or registration required. And of course, bitcoin tables are also available for those who prefer a little more excitement!

My goal was to create an 'instant gratification' poker site where even non-bitcoiners could get started right away with play money. My hope is to get some of the recreational players out there involved in bitcoin. Some features:

* Anonymous: no annoying registration forms to fill out.
* Instant play: just click play!
* Works on most mobile devices (tested on iPad, FireFox, and Chrome)
* Built with HTML5 WebSockets and CSS3. No flash or Java plugins required.
* Nearly instant deposits and withdraws.

Texas Hold'em ring games are currently offered, but the software is still under active development so please let me know what features you'd like to see in future! Pot-Limit Omaha, Sit-N-Go's, and 'provably fair shuffling' are next on my todo list, but I'm open to other ideas if they're popular enough. https://boot52.nl

Another poker game site.  I might check this out, but I haven't been a player for a long time.  That's pretty good if it works with mobile devices, not sure how many others have that yet.  Good luck with this.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 06, 2013, 03:41:35 PM
Nice. This site needs players though. So some sealsofclubs people should come here and play, without a registration (definitely the one thing I always hated at poker sites).
Yeah, traffic is always a big issue with new poker sites. It's not much fun with no one to play against. :( One thing I learned from doing market research is that the 'play money' market alone is pretty big. Zynga gets more traffic than every other poker site out there with the exception of Pokerstars.  It would be a huge win for this site and bitcoin in general if we could get just a tiny fraction of that. So my strategy right now is to mainly go after the 'play money' market, but I'd be delighted to get a few seasoned bitcoiners as well! What I see in the bitcoin community right now is just the same people swapping coins back and forth over and over again.  So I think it is imperative to bring in a little "fresh blood." That's my goal with boot52.

EDIT: Had a nice for-money game today. What I noticed: there is no betting before the cards are dealt. Something I remember to be in the Texas Hold'em rules (long time ago that I played that game (for money) so I'm not sure).
Glad you liked it. I think you are the first 'real money' player to try out the site that isn't one of my relatives :)


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: vlees on August 06, 2013, 03:47:54 PM
Also people tend to forget they are on the site.

Maybe auto leave the table after doing nothing for a round and play sounds.
Currently getting 7 free chips per round (once a minute) on table 5.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 06, 2013, 04:22:21 PM
Currently getting 7 free chips per round (once a minute) on table 5.
You must be playing vs. 'LuckyLiz'. That's my girlfriend. She's not much of a poker player, but she's doing her part to make sure there's always someone on the site to play against. Note to sharks: you should have a pretty easy time picking up chips vs 'LuckyLiz' (small stakes, though).  The connection will timeout after 300 seconds of inactivity, but I may decrease that if I see too many relatives "blinding out" on the real money tables.

Another poker game site.  I might check this out, but I haven't been a player for a long time.  That's pretty good if it works with mobile devices, not sure how many others have that yet.  Good luck with this.
Thanks. HTML5 WebSockets was an obvious technology choice since it works on almost every mobile device out there. I'm not sure why so many sites still insist on using Adobe Flash. It's buggy and not very well supported by Apple.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: vlees on August 06, 2013, 04:25:18 PM
and not very well supported by Apple.

And Android, and Linux, and Windows (Phone), and Tizen, and Symbian, and ....
Well, where does it actually work properly?


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 07, 2013, 06:21:37 PM
Adobe Flash: it may be slow, but it sure is hard to use.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: vlees on August 11, 2013, 09:40:41 AM
Site offline and my account with a balance on it was removed?


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 11, 2013, 01:03:03 PM
Whoops! Site back now, sorry for the inconvenience. Anyone with coins on the site just got a little bonus added to their account.
What happened was that I 'fixed' a few minor bugs dealing with WebSocket disconnects yesterday, causing unexpected problems.

Sound effects have also been added per your suggestion, which should make the user experience a lot more fun. As always, I'm interested hearing feedback on how the site could be improved, especially from mobile device users .. since I don't always take the time to test things out properly on the iThings and Androids.

Boot52 Poker (https://boot52.nl/) is back!


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 17, 2013, 08:42:24 PM
Hey! Boot52 here with a mind-blowing promotion fer y'all. This one is good, so perk up your ears on this. This Sunday (tomorrow) from 12 noon to midnight EST, FoldBot will be playing on table 5! (http://boot52.nl/id/5)

What's FoldBot? FoldBot is a poker robot I designed with one very simple instruction: fold. That's all FoldBot does and it does it well. You bet, FoldBot folds. Every time. I guarantee it.       

Heads-up against FoldBot is basically just free money. More than one player and things get interesting. Here's how it works. If nobody raises preflop, FoldBot is programmed to lose exactly one big blind per hand. It just puts dead money in the pot.  However, if somebody does raise preflop and FoldBot isn't in the hand yet, then FoldBot will fold without putting anything in the pot. Makes it interesting, no?

Why are we giving away coins like this? Let's just call this what it is: a bribe.
Boot52 needs players and deals like this are a lot cheaper than buying banner ads and props. A lot more interesting too, no?

So git the hitch out of your get-along and mosey on over to Boot52!
The site link again is http://boot52.nl


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: FanEagle on August 17, 2013, 09:40:42 PM
maybe you should do something like:
Every user of bitcointalk that writes here his nickname receive x chips, if caught in multi account you will not receive any more money, something like that.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: pand70 on August 17, 2013, 09:43:17 PM
Good Job but still you need a lot of work + a lot of promotions to make it happen.  ;)


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: montana on August 18, 2013, 12:50:05 PM
Hello...

Just had time for a quick pass with it this morning.  um... please make handy a sound-kill switch!

Looks fun... but no players except one in the freechips area

HS

added later:  No player chat interface makes quite a difference.  Sometimes when I have the other player all in, and te next card is dealt, it offers me the chance to bet check or fold, instead of just finishing the game out.  It did not do that on at least one occassion though.


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Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 18, 2013, 03:46:32 PM
maybe you should do something like:
Every user of bitcointalk that writes here his nickname receive x chips, if caught in multi account you will not receive any more money, something like that.

Good point! Anyone who wants to take a whack at FoldBot this afternoon, just post your boot52 handle right here and I'll credit your account with a few chips. To qualify, you must be a forum member in good standing and you can't be a newbie.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 18, 2013, 03:49:31 PM
FoldBot just went live on Table 5! https://boot52.nl/id/5
This is free money, folks. Come n get it!!

The 'play money' version of FoldBot is running on Table 4 --> https://boot52.nl/id/4


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: Dabs on August 19, 2013, 10:52:00 AM
Hey boot52, what kind of server do you have to run 8 tables? That means 9 players per table = 72 maximum players? Bots included.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 19, 2013, 03:48:03 PM
Hey boot52, what kind of server do you have to run 8 tables? That means 9 players per table = 72 maximum players? Bots included.

Nothing special server side. Boot52 runs CentOS 64 bit on a single box with 4GB RAM. The software was tested with 5 full tables (9 x 5 = 45 simultaneous connections) and it passed with flying colors, using less than 1 percent of system resources in terms of CPU and RAM.
HTML5 WebSockets are incredibly efficient to begin with, so you shouldn't need any beefy hardware if your code is tight.

Just had time for a quick pass with it this morning.  um... please make handy a sound-kill switch!
Looks fun... but no players except one in the freechips area

A volume control slider is on my todo list. Thanks!


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: Dabs on August 20, 2013, 02:27:14 PM
Hey boot52, what kind of server do you have to run 8 tables? That means 9 players per table = 72 maximum players? Bots included.

Nothing special server side. Boot52 runs CentOS 64 bit on a single box with 4GB RAM. The software was tested with 5 full tables (9 x 5 = 45 simultaneous connections) and it passed with flying colors, using less than 1 percent of system resources in terms of CPU and RAM.
HTML5 WebSockets are incredibly efficient to begin with, so you shouldn't need any beefy hardware if your code is tight.

So, assuming 45 people = 1%, then 10% = 450 people? Or about 50 tables? Or, you simply haven't been able to test that many? Could you theoretically accommodate 4500 simultaneous connections on your current hardware, or would that kill it?


I want to do something similar, but I'm hesitant because 1. I'm not really a good coder, 2. I don't know all the different rules of poker.

But I've been winning against FoldBot. Kinda boring since it was on the play money tables though.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 21, 2013, 12:53:31 PM
So, assuming 45 people = 1%, then 10% = 450 people? Or about 50 tables? Or, you simply haven't been able to test that many? Could you theoretically accommodate 4500 simultaneous connections on your current hardware, or would that kill it?

I haven't tested that many, so I don't know.  I'll consider myself lucky to get just one full table of regulars at this stage, so I'm not going to worry about it. I'll consider the project a success if I make enough to cover hosting costs and whatnot.
 
I want to do something similar, but I'm hesitant because 1. I'm not really a good coder, 2. I don't know all the different rules of poker.

It's a big project. I've been pecking at the boot52 code for five months now and there's still a lot more to do. It's time and effort, just like everything else. The 'mental poker' concepts y'all have been talking about look interesting. I might take a stab at it one of these days if see enough interest among players.

But I've been winning against FoldBot. Kinda boring since it was on the play money tables though.

The bitcoin version of FoldBot got raked over the coals pretty bad on Sunday. I lost about .7 bitcoins on that promotion. The 'play money' version isn't nearly as fun! I'll be doing another bitcoin FoldBot promotion this Sunday between 12 noon and 6pm EST, so be sure to check that out!



Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: vlees on August 21, 2013, 01:17:37 PM

The bitcoin version of FoldBot got raked over the coals pretty bad on Sunday. I lost about .7 bitcoins on that promotion. The 'play money' version isn't nearly as fun! I'll be doing another bitcoin FoldBot promotion this Sunday between 12 noon and 6pm EST, so be sure to check that out!



What % of time were situations with 2 or more players on the same table with foldbot? Because I think that most of the time it was just the same person autobetting 1 chip.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 21, 2013, 06:21:49 PM
What % of time were situations with 2 or more players on the same table with foldbot? Because I think that most of the time it was just the same person autobetting 1 chip.

One guy played heads-up against FoldBot for the first 4 four hours of the promotion, taking down something like 4500 chips uncontested. Autobet would have taken down more, but sometimes he checked it down to the river just out of curiosity I think.  Finally a couple more players showed up which slowed the bleeding a bit. I had the delays set so that the maximum I could loose was 28 chips per minute, which works out to about 20k chips for the entire 12 hour promotion. The same three players were still going strong at midnight when I finally had to shut it down!

Folks, I'll be running the same promo again this Sunday (the 25th) from 12 noon to 6pm EST, so don't miss out!


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: aksplace on August 21, 2013, 07:10:54 PM
Good luck with your business hopefully it's successful. I also sent you a pm in regards to a initial rating and review article that will be issued.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: KingOfSports on August 21, 2013, 07:14:44 PM
What % of time were situations with 2 or more players on the same table with foldbot? Because I think that most of the time it was just the same person autobetting 1 chip.

One guy played heads-up against FoldBot for the first 4 four hours of the promotion, taking down something like 4500 chips uncontested. Autobet would have taken down more, but sometimes he checked it down to the river just out of curiosity I think.  Finally a couple more players showed up which slowed the bleeding a bit. I had the delays set so that the maximum I could loose was 28 chips per minute, which works out to about 20k chips for the entire 12 hour promotion. The same three players were still going strong at midnight when I finally had to shut it down!

Folks, I'll be running the same promo again this Sunday (the 25th) from 12 noon to 6pm EST, so don't miss out!

Wait a minute, will foldbot be on the real chip tables? This is what I was looking for the other day lol.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: Dabs on August 22, 2013, 03:57:17 AM
FoldBot is always on the play money tables. It is some times on the real money tables. But I haven't had the chance to see it on a real money table.

You should have FoldBot talk. "I am hungry, I will get a donut to eat in 5 minutes." or something. hehehe.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: vlees on August 22, 2013, 08:16:28 AM
FoldBot is always on the play money tables. It is some times on the real money tables. But I haven't had the chance to see it on a real money table.

I saw it there once but another player was playing against it and I was lazy. So I entered, kept bluff raising and walked away with 34 more chips or something like that (at the river that other player finally folded).


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: Lizmay on August 22, 2013, 03:56:01 PM
FoldBot is always on the play money tables. It is some times on the real money tables. But I haven't had the chance to see it on a real money table.

I saw it there once but another player was playing against it and I was lazy. So I entered, kept bluff raising and walked away with 34 more chips or something like that (at the river that other player finally folded).

I played that guy for awhile, still ended up with over 800 chips from him and FoldBot.  I don't know if he was bluffing or got lazy.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 22, 2013, 04:02:09 PM
You should have FoldBot talk. "I am hungry, I will get a donut to eat in 5 minutes." or something. hehehe.

I like it! Or how about some snarky comment after each thrashing? That's good. I'm doing it.
Post your snarky FoldBot comments right here.
Top 5 comments will be added to FoldBots programming for next Sunday's promo!
 


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: vlees on August 22, 2013, 05:02:48 PM
"I had a pocket royal flush but I didn't want to brag so I folded."


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: Dabs on August 23, 2013, 01:27:55 AM
"You see those 3 aces? I had the last one. But I'm nice so I folded."

(FoldBot must see 3 cards on the table to say this realistically.)


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: Lizmay on August 23, 2013, 05:46:26 PM
Snarky comment.  "Remind your mom to pick up some DD baterties for later tonight."


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: Lizmay on August 23, 2013, 11:25:02 PM
"It's no fun when Scotty's got a gun."  And I'm done.  (Somehow I feel like mine are snarkier than the guys?)


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: b!z on August 24, 2013, 02:04:30 PM
I keep getting a Connection Closed error on iPad, what does it mean? I want to play poker.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: Lizmay on August 24, 2013, 04:00:55 PM
I keep getting a Connection Closed error on iPad, what does it mean? I want to play poker.

Hey it's working on my IPAD.  Did you load it up and leave the site?  Mine closes the connection after five minutes of inactivity.  Or if I switch to a diffrent tab Safari sometimes logs me out.  I just reload the page.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 24, 2013, 06:23:59 PM
I keep getting a Connection Closed error on iPad, what does it mean? I want to play poker.

Do you get 'connection closed' right away or after some delay? The inactivity timeout is currently set to 300 seconds, but the mobile version of Safari sometimes kicks you out sooner if you switch to a different tab. It could be a settings issue. I'll look into it. Thanks! 

Wait a minute, will foldbot be on the real chip tables? This is what I was looking for the other day lol.

Yes, this Sunday noon-7pm EST FoldBot will be playing on table 5!


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on August 26, 2013, 05:03:51 PM
No android support at all?

Okay, the default Android browser does not support HTML5 WebSockets at the moment. So the workaround I recommend right now is to download FireFox for Android (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mobile/)

Here is the link --> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mobile/




Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: masterluc on August 27, 2013, 01:27:10 AM
Hi. I invite you to add your site to my toplist https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279647.0


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: boot52 on October 07, 2013, 07:07:38 PM
Hi. For those who don't know, boot52 suspended operations two weeks ago and will be off-line indefinitely. I still see two accounts with small positive balances. I'm pretty sure these are tester accounts, but I'm not 100 percent sure because they were registered anonymously. If you think the accounts might be yours, PM me with proof of ownership and I'll make sure you get your coins.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: mises on October 07, 2013, 07:22:24 PM
Website isn't working for me. Wanted to check it out.


Title: Re: Boot52 instant play poker, no downloads or registration!
Post by: mises on October 07, 2013, 07:22:46 PM
Hi. For those who don't know, boot52 suspended operations two weeks ago and will be off-line indefinitely. I still see two accounts with small positive balances. I'm pretty sure these are tester accounts, but I'm not 100 percent sure because they were registered anonymously. If you think the accounts might be yours, PM me with proof of ownership and I'll make sure you get your coins.


Apologies didn't read your post here.