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To start I should say I don't think any coin can or should replace Bitcoin as the most dominant coin. Bitcoin started it all and we all trade and measure our portfolios in BTC. It has the recognition of casual investors and when the Lightning Network goes live the problem of moving it will be mostly solved.

However, if it were to be replaced, Bitcoin Cash is a pretty shit candidate. It offers nothing new. The only reason any of us pay it any mind at all is because it has "Bitcoin" in the name. If it were not for this, we'd all be scratching our heads trying to figure out why it's worth nearly $3000 (something which I don't think will last over the coming years, people will wake up and realise how unremarkable it is). It's value is almost entirely based on a few, very rich people pumping and manipulating it, something that could stop when they get bored and realise they've thrown enough money away on it.

If any coin should "replace" Bitcoin - it should be a coin that's its own thing. Coins that bring new features to the table. Apart from the obvious big candidates that are more useful than Bitcoin and BCH (Eth, Dash etc) there's coins which really could be far more-suitable for mainstream use.

Chief among them I think is Raiblocks. Despite being traded on very shitty exchanges (which it melted  :D ) it's managed to become a top 20 coin. The main reason is no-fee transactions and low CPU-power footprint.

From the FAQ:

WHAT IS RAIBLOCKS?

RaiBlocks is a trustless, low-latency cryptocurrency that utilizes a novel block-lattice architecture, where each account has its own blockchain and achieves consensus via delegated Proof of Stake voting.

Offers feeless, instantaneous transactions, as well as unlimited scalability, making RaiBlocks ideal for peer-to-peer transactions.

The network requires minimal resources, no high-power mining hardware, and can process high transaction throughput.

To date, the RaiBlocks network has processed over four million transactions with an unpruned ledger size of only 1.7GB.


So rather than the big blocks vs lightning network war, Raiblocks is good tech that solves all of the problems related to sending or withdrawing cryptocurrencies from exchanges (despite recent problems related to a malfunctioning node). And while it's not exactly a low-maximum-supply coin, its supply of 133,248,290 XRB is low enough for it to act as a store of value. If it were listed on decent exchanges (Binance coming soon?) and if you could trade other currencies with it, I could see people doing all of their trading in Raiblocks. If for no other reason that it will be free to move around.

There are also other far better candidates than BCH. An outsider like Phore could also shake things up, especially when their marketplace (currently in closed beta) goes live. Marketplaces drove the early gains of BTC and Dash. With atomic swaps and smart contracts coming soon it could be an all-in-one coin which continues to shake things up (recent 10x growth).

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Basically there's hundreds of better "Bitcoin replacement" coins than Bitcoin Cash, many of which actually bring something new to the table, so Roger Ver can suck it.

I would still choose XRB over BCash you are right the price of Roger Ver's shitcoin is too high many people got fooled with his manipulations,Anything can replace BTC except BCash!

You early bite Bitcoin. In the near future will make a number of changes in its code and everything will fly! Bitcoin was, is and will be a long time crypto currency number 1!

I also want Bitcoin to remain #1 , it's just that if I had to pick a replacement it would be Raiblocks not Bitcoin Cash.

bitcoin must be replaced by other coins, i dont know what the real value of bitcoin has, as its mainnet is so slow and cant be used to real world, it cost so much energy but do nothing help, why should we support bitcoin

I can think of several good reasons, mainly:

1) Bitcoin is the crypto reserve currency, without a reliable reserve we can't tell if our trading is going well. Sure we can measure against fiat, but fiat is easily left behind by cryptos. It would make trading well near-impossible if the most dominant coin keeps changing. I make my living from trading and you need us to support new currencies and provide support levels during dips.

2) Bitcoin is cryptos flag bearer, if anything bad happens to it, it will effect all coins. No-one new to crypto is going to put money in if their coin can be forked and replaced by "Bitcoin version 2" leaving "Bitcoin version 1" a lot less valuable as a result. Not everyone checks charts daily, they just want to buy 0.5 BTC and leave it gaining value.

All the coins your mentions are not anonymous. When regulations and taxes fall down on you, the bite will be painful.
The public must pay more attention. Ripple is heavily centralized and controlled. Just because it is adopted as a payment method by banks, doesn't mean it is superior.
If a coin is not open-source, anonymous, with public transactions and is truly decentralized, it will eventually fall down as soon as regulations make a move that owners don't like.
We need to increase our awareness and act fast because people are being deceived by controlled coins.

Bcash is a worthless piece of shit,XRB has a lot more to offer and has better technology than the BCash.

I've only mentioned 2 and 1 of them (Phore) is a privacy coin.

Also, XRB is not Ripple, Ripple is XRP, no-one said anything about Ripple, please read carefully before responding.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees Bcash for the unremarkable shitcoin it is. Take "Bitcoin" out of it's name and it's a nothing shitcoin. I predict a huge crash for it in the future. The people propping it up (Roger Ver and friends) have been known to get bored and move on when their predictions didn't pan out.

BCash is an awful project, and the people behind are even more aweful. But I don´t think it will fail that easily. Ver and his minions have too much money!

I never thought that Bitcoin Cash would replace BTC, because Bitcoin Cash is just a combination of miners, most of which are concentrated in the hands of a few, so how could there be a future?

Sure they have a tonne of money, but I don't think they have enough to keep wasting it trying to pump an unpopular coin. When Ver sells up (though that guy knows how to hodl I'll give him that) or even when they stop trying to pump, I can see it going back under 1k and even less when the Lightning Network is out.

At least just know the truth about XRB has zero transaction fees and that much better rather than bitcoin shit cash that created by ver and jihan. DAG system should become the future, but that included on non based blockchain project which use alternative way. Bitcoin cash just another shit with no usefulness.

Times without number we are faced with several coins trying to replace bitcoin but unfortunately, they are oly living in their own imagination because the fight is being shared by the already established coins and even the ones that will be launched today or tomorrow and this in fighting will only continue to establish the continued dominance of bitcoin. However, each coin should only focus on its own market promote it and hopefully achieve its own objective rather than setting out with the primary purpose of dislodging bitcoin.

Phore - the 2nd coin I mentioned - just got a shout out in the Huffington Post.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-top-5-crypto-projects-to-watch-in-2018_us_5a4c6a77e4b06cd2bd03e359

I like Raiblocks due to it's tech and team, but I suppose that the main competitor to BTC is Cardano, not XRB. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong :) I have both of them so it would be great to see their growth anyway.

Is there a coin that can beat nowadays with bitcoin? I don't think any coin can make it pass on bitcoin with its current performance. I also haven't heard about this Railblocks thing. Actually this is my frst time to encounter such a name. Basing on some reading here I learned that it is a trustless Cryptocurrency. So why is it a question that, will Railblocks replace BTC. There are a lot better coin that is much further better than Railblocks I believe. One is Ethereum which is really gaining the trust of users and gaining its worth. Railblocks is out of the choices.

This is incorrect unfortunately... By design Bitcoin will always depend on miners that need to be paid, fees will always be required to prioritize transactions, while the inflation will stop at 21 millions BTC, no one knows what will happen at that time because miners need to be paid - a lot.

We need RaiBlocks Blockchain for a mass adoption currency: ZERO transaction fees, ZERO inflation, Instant transactions, UNLIMITED scalability...

XRB maybe new to us but it has more potential than Bcash who claims to be the real bitcoin.

It is not trust less, It has its own consensus mechanism: Delegated Proof of Stake. Basically :
Proof of Work < Proof of Stake < Delegated Proof of Stake

Why is Delegated Proof of Stake better than Proof of Stake?
1) When everyone can stake, some stake with bad hardware or connection which slow down the network
2) The more people that stake, the more electricity it costs and the less return there is (because yes, in a PoS there has to be a return for staking)
3) When the network consensus rely on "non tech" people, it is hard to get those people to update their wallet / staking software so updating the network is a pain
In a Delegated Proof of Stake mechanism, It will be businesses that that will stake and they will do it to get "trust votes" like they are currently trying to get "facebook likes", their "XRB Representive" weight will just be more real than any other appreciation token they can get. Not only they will stake for free, but they will do it well, very well. RaiBlocks is already instant because you don't need to wait for other people transactions to get in a block, but it will get even more instant than 1 or 2 seconds as the network grow and those big "Proof of Stake Representatives" get in.

You summed up my thoughts perfectly and I agree with all your comments.  I just don't know if those reasons will prevail over profits...

Ethereum and Raiblocks are two entirely different things. For sending a transaction, Raiblocks is obviously superior, given that it's instant (not fast, instant) and free.

Ethereum is great for building blockchain applications, not for payment. Try telling Norman McNormie he has to set the correct gas amount in Myetherwallet and wait 10 minutes to pay for his new laptop. It will never happen.

Raiblocks is obviously much better suited for mainstream adoption. If you haven't heard of it as you say, you need to start researching it.

It seems to me that these so-called forks are almost impossible to go beyond bitcoin, and just copy one copy of the code and change the data to be a new fork. :(

I have some money on bch after hearing about Roger ver, but I'm thinking of dumping it now and put half to eth and half btc.. it must be slow growth.

Good plan. I would put it in newer coins personally but anything is safer than Bitcoin Cash. It's a time-bomb, the second the Lightning Network fully launches it will crash hard.

How much do they pay you for writing this OP? you should add to your for asking questions, how do you mine Railblocks? you mine it by delegated proof of stake voting or DPOS. there is no FAQ on the main site, only something about paying people with Raiblocks to block the advertisements shown on web pages, what does that have anything to do with a decentralized currency? how do you earn Raiblocks? who would pay the costs if some body spammed the network with 1 Million transactions per second? this shitcoin is around for ever, why did it start to rise after Bitcoin skyrocketed from $3000 to $18000?
And the last but the most important question, who's in charge of Raiblocks? I need to beg for $10,000 worth of Raiblocks, a man has got to eat and also desires to jump an opposite sex. (note that I'm in dire need of jumping at least a paid prostitute at least for half an hour, but I don't have the place to do that, alright I give up, just give me enough Raiblocks so that I could at least pay the prostitute for that thirty minutes and rent a motel room or something, note 2, there are no rest rooms like you see in American movies in my country, so there is that). first lol and then rofl to warm up your body.

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Try separating into paragraphs, it's much easier to read and you look less crazy.

I would have kept at least some.

Why do you prefer Bitcoin Cash? What's special about it? What does it do?

XRB has instant transactions and fee-less transactions, does Bitcoin Cash?

Bitcoin Cash's whole reason to exist is that it's faster and cheaper to move than BTC, but XRB is the fastest and cheapest coin to transact with, so why does Bitcoin Cash still need to exist? It's all based on having Bitcoin in the name.

true, xrb (or nano) is the future

Btw, Raiblocks just won the vote to be added on Binance by a large margin, and KuCoin added it yesterday.

I think that we should discuss a possible candidate for the leader of the crypto currency, regardless of what we want to ensure that bitcoin has long remained in the lead. Bitcoin is now very patient with hundreds of thousands of hanging transactions and the high cost of fees. We are promised that these problems can correct the introduction of a network of lightning or SegWit, but we do not yet see a real result. If bitcoin does not eliminate its shortcomings, then the real contender can really be bitcoin cash, which is just different from the original bitcoin just by the absence of those problems. which are now in the original bitkoin.

XRB development is astonishing and the its technology looks promising,it is better than the forked shitty coin Bcash.

I do agree, Bitcoin cash is trash! XRB is a real nice coin, free transactions which are instant...  With Raiblocks there is no need for Bitcoin cash to exist at all

Bitcoin cash didnt hit the expectations and seems ppl dodnt want it but its all about mlney and ppl behind of it have many of those

I think that bitcoin will remain the top one. But if you choose between Raiblocks and Cash. That I would prefer Raiblocks. For a variety of transactions, this is one of the best solutions to date.

I don't get the hype around Raiblocks, doesn't Steem have just as fast blockchain transactions? And Larimer the developer of Steem is working on EOS which will even be faster. My money is on EOS

No way. Absolutely wrong assumption. If there is any coin that would replace Bitcoin, it would be ETH and not Railblocks.
Isn't the market full of shitcoins already? Do you really expect such shitcoins to replace BTC? You got to be kidding me if you think like that. This would show that you are not really as informed in regards to cryptos as of now.

There's no need to replace anything here because it's more good if we have it all like btc,xrb and bcc so i say in the future it can happen,All of the coins here need only support to authorized their coins in exchanger like btc to fiat and i think in some eth can be like that.I think also even we already authorized any coins to exchange in fiat still btc can't be replace because it's so good now.Moreover don't compare anything here but look what they can be in positive way like how can you use it in good way.

Nope, Steem slower behind, in terms of transaction speed: Steem < Ripple < RaiBlocks
But the hype about RaiBlocks is its -unlimited- scalability: the number of transaction per second that it can handle it not even know yet, it is at least more than 7k:
https://i.imgur.com/oRpO8lc.gif
And it doesn't obtain that by magic: It is a completely new blockchain technology written from the ground up!

If BTC should be replaced, it has to be by a coin that fix its issues. Ethereum has as many scaling issues as BTC currently.

Honestly bitcoin cash was nothing compared with DAG system that has been used by raiblocks, zero fees and instant transaction make it a very good choice to be alternative to bitcoin. the bitcoin cash developers are forgetting if there is a lot of coins that has better scalability than bitcoin cash. Bitcoin cash still included on the slow blockchain.

I agree on the fact that some coin will at some point replace BTC, which doesn't really work fine any more - just look at the fees. Beyond RAIblocks, consider also Stellar and Byteball, both have very low fees and interesting tech.

BCash is a trashy forked coin,XRB is the new innovation zero tx fee and faster tx confirmation is awesome.

Dag coins are currently the fastest coins, I understand scepticism because that claim has been made many times by many coins but it's true in Raiblock's case.

Because Raiblocks has zero transaction fees, you can try it for yourself without it costing you anything. Buy a little bit, create two wallets in different browsing windows using Raiwallet.com, send some to yourself and you'll see. It's not just hype it's the future of crypto.

I agree that RaiBlocks would be a great coin to replace BTC. The fact that it can handle a large number of transactions extremely quickly with zero transaction fees and no need for mining, gives it a huge advantage. RaiBlocks seems to have tackled the scalability issue, but the big problem down the road is adoption. So marketing and user interfaces plus exchanges will play a large role.

That seems to be the consensus but I don't think that BTC will be overthrown actually. It may not have the best tech but I bet you at least 50% of people know of it now. If you go ask most people about Ripple and Ethereum they will most likely have no clue I would say a small percentage would know. It still is the leading crypto in terms of everything else, I thoroughly expect it to stay up top for a while longer.

Well it's just won the Binance vote so it has at least 1 good exchange now at least.

Most of the marketing has been from the community/word of mouth. I think it could go far without a huge marketing budget because the tech's so solid. Those who try it love it.

I do not see why only those two altcoin are the only ones with legitimate aspirations to displace the bitcoin from its current leadership. In fact I do not even see in the near future that bitcoin can lose its hegemonic place as the most popular and coveted of all cryptos, although I have no doubt that eventually and by mere speculation some other coin could take in a temporary mod the first place in marketcap. In addition raiblocks is a very new altcoin that few really know, and there are still big projects to emerge throughout this year.

I thought the same with you. Bitcoin was , is and will be number one always in future. King of cryptocurrency is bitcoin no other altcoin can change it. All the exchange offer market pair into bitcoin not other altcoin. However if bitcoin will be changed and it will be changed by etherium.

Well there's 2 side of thoughts: mine is that Bitcoin, at its current stage, can't be fixed. Changing Bitcoin to work like RaiBlocks would have more chance that break it than fix it and taking an even 0.00001% of chance to break this now "virtual gold" is not an option. Bitcoin will unfornately stay like it is. It remains a safe investment as it will remain the first for all coins, but one coin will have to take over the mass adoption role.

Well Bitcoin Cash is currently the one competing the most with Bitcoin because mainly of its market cap (Ripple and ETH are too different to be competitors)

Why RaiBlocks is a new competitors that should scare Bitcoin much more than like Litecoin or other coins that have the same purpose? Because RaiBlocks does PERFECTLY what Bitcoin try to do but fails at. RaiBlocks is a completely new technology that is far better than the one created by Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi did a good job but probably didn't expect his coin to be as much popular and before RaiBocks there was surprisingly no coin that could claim to have unlimited scalability. We now have a coin that offers all what we want for a mass adoption distributed currency.

Between Raiblocks and Bitcoin Cash, I also would choose Raiblocks rather than Bitcoin Cash. Although it is not my first choice of altcoin to replace Bitcoin. And yes there are other better altcoins than that of Bitcoin Cash.

It won't though, I love Ethereum but it has the same problems as Bitcoin, just less pronounced due to it being worth a lot less. If Ethereum was worth 50 grand we'd see the same problems. Maybe even if it was worth as much as Bitcoin is now. It's already expensive at times to move Eth around, and using EtherDelta can gobble through your money fast.

For mass adoption and scalability, Raiblocks would be much better, it's not even a contest, I refer you to the gif posted earlier by christianb35.

https://i.imgur.com/oRpO8lc.gif

You could never get rich, these Billions of dollars you see coming into the Raiblocks were earned by killing people, stealing Billions of dollars from countries like mine, if you had your 3000 and other beggars would've kept their thousands of Raiblocks, you could never see such prices, they would spread some news about the coin dying and crashing, beggars like you and me would immediately dump to earn as much as we can, if you hold them on exchanges, some day you'd see the exchange delisting the coin forcing you to withdrawal, if you keep them on your wallet, they would do something to make you dump.

They have been doing this for years with thousands of coins identical and with the same code, they would always collect 99% of the supply before pumping it on their own exchanges.

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Still in dire need of knowing the answers to my questions, specially the one related to holy matrimonial intercourse a.k.a jumping purposes or hitting some pussy in slang. remember to lol before rolling on the floor laughing.

What's the weather like on your planet?

There are so many coins better than bitcoin but as you know that the market isn't rational and it is highly manipulated. So only time will tell if your opinion is true

I actually think it's rational for Bitcoin to remain #1 for reasons I stated earlier in the thread. It's just if it does get knocked off the number 1 spot, we'd all be better off with Raiblocks.

well we can't predict the future yet but if ever we have only two choices left ether raiblocks or bitcoin cash i would go for raiblocks. i have follow raiblocks and seen its progress and what i like is the fast transaction as well as its price go up lately.

This is right I actually to is thinking of what will happen to bitcoin after it hits is max supply. Most probably it will need to be replaced by something that can be easily adopted and of course lower/zero fees.

How about ETH as the successor of Bitcoin? Being stable already for quite some time and trailing by BTC before XRP took its place, i am rooting for this alt coin to be the next BITCOIN.

Nope, it can't at least it should not, not until ETH fix its scaling issues... it can't scale much more than BTC.

Avoiding the subject again? weather is rainy if you really want to know. how the consensus is better than Bitcoin in XRB? how is the generating new coins better than Bitcoin?
Distribution completed, it says on the main page of Raiblocks.net, this is supposed to be a viable replacement of Bitcoin? loling is completed, pure shitcoin only listed on 4 exchanges, 2 of them start with Bit in their names.

Ask questions politely and sanely and I'm sure someone will bother trying to find the questions among your poor English and rambling.

That sums it up very well. Raiblocks is the only coin that could go to $20,000 and function exactly the same as it does now. Some people don't seem to understand this or why that's such a big deal, but it's a huge step forward for cryptocurrencies.

Nothing gonna come in once day and replace bitcoin. People should stop with the over hype stuff.

Another one who can't read, it's the first thing I wrote.  ::)

"To start I should say I don't think any coin can or should replace Bitcoin as the most dominant coin."

Agreed it should be XRB if we are choosing who will replace between the two,BCash is manipulated by roger ver and his whale friends.

In xrb lot of problems with the wallet ,the developers themselves pamp it now,I don't think it will replace bitcoin.

What problems? Webwallet is fine.

Developers pumped it? Really? Did they have a spare 4 billion dollars down the back of their sofa to pump from nowhere to 17?

Raiblock's growth is one of the most organic I've seen.

It's less fortune to you, all people here in this thread are already known about bitcoin so we supported it like other coins. It can be replaced with other altcoins but not as much as popularity it has.

Someone's trying to make 1btc in this year because for the price unstable.

I totally agree that the wallet needs work and a new UI to be more user friendly and other than the webwallet Rai need a mobile wallet, it also need a complete re-branding (which is actually in progress) and it needs a new exchanges too (It will be on Binance soon).

But what is important to understand is that those things are VERY minor things, they will come very fast, I am ready to bet that XRB will have a shiny desktop wallet and a mobile wallet by the end of the year. It is also important to understand also that it is at a very early adoption stage (just a few weeks ago its market cap was bellow 1 billion)... partnerships will come.

I heard that Raiblocks will launch mobile wallet soon, also it wins at Binance round to enter on it. I guess they are doing a pretty good work to pump that coin and I'll surf on it. Perhaps, it would become the number one someday. Let's wait and see, buyed, of course.