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Title: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: 000JC88 on January 07, 2018, 04:42:52 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: sensimilia on January 07, 2018, 04:46:12 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 

It's a mix of not caring and not understanding I think. Frustrating to see.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: BillCoin on January 07, 2018, 04:46:25 PM
Ripple is not a trojan, but also can not be considered as a cryptocurrency, as it is not decentralized and is closed source.

Don't fall and look at its market cap, it is way beyond what it should be worth.
Seems like a very strong manipulation happened and ripple has been surging really high.

What was really hard to understand, why would the XRP token rise because of Ripple Labs connection with some banks at the eastern side, XRP has no connection to Ripple Labs besided the fact that XRP is being transacted on the Ripple network, and Ripple Labs invented ripple.
Beside that, XRP doesn't have any reason for the recent explode in price.



Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: aurorabitcoin.96 on January 07, 2018, 04:49:34 PM
I think Ripple has many manipulation by big people and just curious why Ripple suddenly goes to the moon.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: sensimilia on January 07, 2018, 04:51:52 PM
I think Ripple has many manipulation by big people and just curious why Ripple suddenly goes to the moon.

If you know ripple has a lot of manipulation then you know why it went to the moon as well  ;D


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Yukteswar on January 07, 2018, 05:30:37 PM

No Ripple is not a Trojan!

Ripple has plans and sees the benefits in becoming decentralized, ore nodes are planned very soon. They understand that decentralizing too soon leads to the wild west scenario of BTC, where perhaps 1000 people hold 90% of BTC wealth.

Ripple understands that there is no getting around the fact that government is a necessary evil and that anarchy is not a good thing. Working within the system has fared man-kind very well and knowing your customer is a GOOD thing. Unless you are a terrorist or drug dealer who wants to remain anonymous so you can avoid discovery and taxation you have nothing to fear from your government.

Ripple will be one of the few cryptos left standing as soon as regulation and global controls take place this year. Get out of all of the criminal and corrupt cryptos now while you have time.

Sri


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: 000JC88 on January 07, 2018, 05:35:47 PM

No Ripple is not a Trojan!

Ripple has plans and sees the benefits in becoming decentralized, ore nodes are planned very soon. They understand that decentralizing too soon leads to the wild west scenario of BTC, where perhaps 1000 people hold 90% of BTC wealth.

Ripple understands that there is no getting around the fact that government is a necessary evil and that anarchy is not a good thing. Working within the system has fared man-kind very well and knowing your customer is a GOOD thing. Unless you are a terrorist or drug dealer who wants to remain anonymous so you can avoid discovery and taxation you have nothing to fear from your government.

Ripple will be one of the few cryptos left standing as soon as regulation and global controls take place this year. Get out of all of the criminal and corrupt cryptos now while you have time.

Sri

BTC has become very centralized and that's why all the negative with it now. But ripple is centralized from it's nature, how many people have the most of ripples wealth?


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: ac2eugenio on January 07, 2018, 05:37:36 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 
I agree XRP is the biggest scam we can have in the future,we should realize now what it can do with our community if the XRP dominates the market,i bought mine 6months ago and took a profit with a x10 gains and i dump this coin for the good i dont like the bankers taking place in the market.

XRP for me is a cancer that needs to be destroy before its too late.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: 000JC88 on January 07, 2018, 05:37:45 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 

It's a mix of not caring and not understanding I think. Frustrating to see.

Ripple is for the banks, its supports FIAT money buy transfer in a short time wealth. XRP is not relevant with this, is the another part of the whole thing called ripple. A system that support the banks what is it?


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: 000JC88 on January 07, 2018, 05:39:19 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 
I agree XRP is the biggest scam we can have in the future,we should realize now what it can do with our community if the XRP dominates the market,i bought mine 6months ago and took a profit with a x10 gains and i dump this coin for the good i dont like the bankers taking place in the market.

XRP for me is a cancer that needs to be destroy before its too late.

Is what I think, Ripple is the cancer in the crypto world, well the most obvious cancer... Because other coins which were decentralized now are not, like BTC which has become the opposite for what Satoshi Nakamoto stood for.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: g___ on January 07, 2018, 05:41:42 PM
Ripple is not a trojan, but also can not be considered as a cryptocurrency, as it is not decentralized and is closed source.

Don't fall and look at its market cap, it is way beyond what it should be worth.
Seems like a very strong manipulation happened and ripple has been surging really high.

What was really hard to understand, why would the XRP token rise because of Ripple Labs connection with some banks at the eastern side, XRP has no connection to Ripple Labs besided the fact that XRP is being transacted on the Ripple network, and Ripple Labs invented ripple.
Beside that, XRP doesn't have any reason for the recent explode in price.


please stop reporting inaccurate information. you're clueless.

ripple will replace their nodes with attested third-party validating nodes. for every two attested third-party validating nodes which meet consensus agreement rate, uptime, and verification of identity and public attestation, ripple will remove one of their validating nodes until no entity operates a majority of trusted nodes on the XRP Ledger. all of this info is public knowledge, they're extremely transparent. read before you spread false information.

"XRP has no connection to Ripple Labs" 😂

just give up...


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: BitcoinGuruOne on January 07, 2018, 05:49:17 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 

There are a lot of speculation about this topic, one being that banks buy Ripple to make us to do the same and then they plan to buy btc and eth to try to take control of cryptos. Also I think that we wont have a way to tell if its true.

Ripple is going crazy because everyone wants profit but in the same time, I do not understand why there haven't been a significant pullback for ripple.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: olushakes on January 07, 2018, 05:57:48 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 

You actually need to do more than this vague expression of opinion to get more expression of facts and engage in an intelligent discussions over the subject matter. The issue again is that the more this issues are raised concerning Ripple the more popular it becomes. I have seen Ripple all over the forum but this direction of discussion is really making me interested in what its really about and would be appreciative if you could expatiate on it.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: g___ on January 07, 2018, 06:17:40 PM
There are a lot of speculation about this topic, one being that banks buy Ripple to make us to do the same and then they plan to buy btc and eth to try to take control of cryptos. Also I think that we wont have a way to tell if its true.

Ripple is going crazy because everyone wants profit but in the same time, I do not understand why there haven't been a significant pullback for ripple.

no, ripple is "going crazy" because banks have confirmed xrp usage, and ripple stated that 3 of the 5 top money transfer companies will be incorporating xrp into their payment flows this year. please learn more before spreading false information.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: g___ on January 07, 2018, 06:18:26 PM
You actually need to do more than this vague expression of opinion to get more expression of facts and engage in an intelligent discussions over the subject matter. The issue again is that the more this issues are raised concerning Ripple the more popular it becomes. I have seen Ripple all over the forum but this direction of discussion is really making me interested in what its really about and would be appreciative if you could expatiate on it.

ripple.com


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Ascredo on January 07, 2018, 06:20:00 PM
The soaring price for XRP is artificial to then shear hamsters)


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: cindygirl on January 07, 2018, 06:21:37 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 

I think that ripple only serves to prove one thing and that is that greed outweighs most things. People frankly do not care if it's decentralized or run by monkeys, if it goes up in value and they can make money then they will invest in it. Sad but true. Eventually crypto will face a crisis if it cannot shake off such greed.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Mister k on January 07, 2018, 06:23:23 PM
They see Ripple as an investment, nothing else. Most people don't know what's behind it.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: sister1001 on January 07, 2018, 07:16:11 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 

Conspiracy theories aside, I do not consider Ripple a cryptocurrency. The first time I read about it I just couldnīt understand why is it included in the same list as true community projects, even those with some private company after them.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: anelenaniku on January 07, 2018, 07:20:42 PM
Yes Ripple is a trojan in the cryptoworld and I don't like that people put money again to banksters because expect some profits. This is so against the idea of decentralization and the war agains banks with cryptocurrencies. Banks found the way to take down the whole thing. Greedy people destroy everything  >:(


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: iam2good on January 07, 2018, 07:23:22 PM
But since it is still a cryptocurrency it will still have some advantages over pure Fiat currency and I don't think it will ever surpass Bitcoin for sure.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: yareklamator on January 07, 2018, 09:16:56 PM
Of course, whales and bankers pump the price. Ordinary people saw this and ran to carry their money to Ripple. What further their action will be - no one knows. They will release another million tokens and the price will collapse or they will sell all their coins to free their own Fiat. They are bankers, they only think about themselves.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Partizanai on January 07, 2018, 09:28:51 PM
most of crypto currency community is here for the profits, just to make quick buck. so they used this opportunity and are riding the XRP hype


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Yukteswar on January 07, 2018, 09:50:48 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 
I agree XRP is the biggest scam we can have in the future,we should realize now what it can do with our community if the XRP dominates the market,i bought mine 6months ago and took a profit with a x10 gains and i dump this coin for the good i dont like the bankers taking place in the market.

XRP for me is a cancer that needs to be destroy before its too late.

Wow! Just wow... Cancer? Wow! But I do understand how stoopid you must feel after getting out of XRP so early, you lost a lot of profit... feel sorry for you bro...

In one year XRP will have many more individual holders than BTC. XRP is clean and above the board, BTC is for anarchists and conspiracy freaks!

Go .gov, go Fiat, go banks! Buhbye but hurt BTChes!

Sri


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: bosses on January 07, 2018, 09:56:12 PM
Of course, whales and bankers pump the price. Ordinary people saw this and ran to carry their money to Ripple. What further their action will be - no one knows. They will release another million tokens and the price will collapse or they will sell all their coins to free their own Fiat. They are bankers, they only think about themselves.
Agree, I think many will lose money , because of their greed, I think that now the ripple now a bad idea for investment


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: BitcoinFrik on January 07, 2018, 09:57:35 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 

I think ripple was mostly bought because was 2nd place on coinmarketcap and people thought "Hey, this coin is cheap, all those idiots didn't notice it, let's buy". And that's the story of Ripple and why it's 3$ now.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: btcprospecter on January 07, 2018, 10:11:09 PM
I think many just see ripple as a coin that could go as far as bitcoin from it being virtually worthless 6 months ago to what price it is now. People just buying purely for investment and quick money but in my opinion with 100 billion of them it seems almost ridiculous for it yo get to high prices. The question has to be who are the whales in the ripple game?


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: wordspavovv on January 07, 2018, 10:16:19 PM
Don't worry about Ripple, is a junk extension of FIAT.
Ripple is used from banks, which use fiat. Fiat won't survive for long and therefor XRP will go down too.
Token economy is the future of the decentralized markets, all this empty tokens will fail. Mark my words, date and time.
The future belongs to Hashgraph , EOS, Ethereum, Cardano , and to all new markets will be based on them.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: kul0n on January 07, 2018, 10:16:51 PM
I think that the price of ripple is once again artificially inflated by big people, as it was in the spring of 2017 and soon we will see a decline in prices, so buying a ripple is now very dangerous


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: wordspavovv on January 07, 2018, 10:23:42 PM
I think that the price of ripple is once again artificially inflated by big people, as it was in the spring of 2017 and soon we will see a decline in prices, so buying a ripple is now very dangerous

Is not just dangerous, its sad to watch people support the opposite of Satoshi Nakamoto ideology. When Ripple go down and all these people lost their money, we shall feel sorry for them?


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Yukteswar on January 07, 2018, 10:56:01 PM
I think that the price of ripple is once again artificially inflated by big people, as it was in the spring of 2017 and soon we will see a decline in prices, so buying a ripple is now very dangerous

Is not just dangerous, its sad to watch people support the opposite of Satoshi Nakamoto ideology. When Ripple go down and all these people lost their money, we shall feel sorry for them?

Dangerous? Paranoid much?

Satoshi ideology? What is this a religion to you? That would make sense the way you zealots so vehemently attack those who are different from you...

Look, Ripple is just a far better technology than BTC, sorry nut that's true... We Zerpists see a great investment opportunity at Ripple-XRP. We care not that it is backed by a real company and that bankers will also see the value of this token. We like it, we buy it, nuff said.

Sri


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Omnopon) on January 07, 2018, 11:22:19 PM
XRP is pumping coin, but  in the market he will never overtake the leaders, so the bitcoin revolution can not be stopped) Just another example of the desperate infusions of banking lobbies..


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Swinging Phallus on January 07, 2018, 11:25:38 PM
It's very troubling seeing a cryptocurrency that is centralized pave its way right behind btc. The bullrun was inorganic and seemed to be like a ploy to me. I don't believe in it so you wont see me putting any money into it.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: boyjackyou on January 08, 2018, 12:56:35 AM
For me XRP is a culprit which you wont know until the time comes that XRP will destroy the market of cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Hanablue on January 08, 2018, 01:11:07 AM
Ripple is not a trojan, its a crypto currency but basically its a technology based crypto. Banks and firms loves these types of technologies as a fast payment solutions.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: sister1001 on January 09, 2018, 08:05:25 PM
For me XRP is a culprit which you wont know until the time comes that XRP will destroy the market of cryptocurrencies.

I think that as unwise investors loose their money, the remaining ones will be more technology aware and will understand that Ripple should not even be in the same basket with the other cryptos. It is just a different thing.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: 2coinheaven on January 09, 2018, 08:08:19 PM
ripple is not a trojan in the classical sense but it is a scam.. It was always intended to be a way for those few to get rich.. the design, the setup, almost every detail of it was tricky.. so, I guess; yes.. it's a trojan.. something that comes under the guise of one thing but delivers another..


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Virtual miner on January 09, 2018, 08:14:02 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 
Don't know why people consider xrp as a complete conspiracy against them. Every coin has its very own trait and ripple is no different. I think its the only coin which provides a practical scenario to work over cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: cryptodevs on January 09, 2018, 08:31:47 PM
Yes it is thats why i dont really support this coin,its a centralized shitcoin of the bankers.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Washball on January 09, 2018, 08:37:01 PM
Ripple is often seen as a bankers thing and many people here on the forum think it's a scam, although no bank has implemented Ripple in their system yet. The reason why it replaced Ethereum from the second place, is because big investors have pumped heavily in Ripple. These investors and the mainstream do not care about decentralization, all they care about is how much profit they can get.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Hexah on January 09, 2018, 08:41:48 PM
It is really a strong manipulation by big banksters to oust the Bitcoin staying at the top in terms of its market cap. If price of Ripple would increase and increase in just due time I would clearly say that it is manipulated by some people. It would be better if it's a decentralized one but it isn't so something is shady.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: DanWalker on January 10, 2018, 08:05:21 AM
There are a lot of rumors about it. But I regard any coin only as a way of making a profit. Do you think that this is bad? And it seems to me that you perceive the crypto in such a way too.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: jouns on January 10, 2018, 08:21:28 AM
Ripple is a fiat money that is successfully traded on cryptocurrency exchanges, but the Trojan is the right word.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: Mohamme on January 10, 2018, 08:29:39 AM
Ripple I don't think it's a cryptocurrency, it just solves the problem of trust between Banks, but it's centralised.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: artmen007 on January 10, 2018, 08:33:54 AM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 

Absolutely agree with you. But everything around me says otherwise. But the most offensive is that they have not studied how that works, just rumored buy of not understanding.
Ripple there is no blockchain, they are not intended as cryptocurrencies, their main competence due to the Ripple of the Net to send the Fiat, I agree with you. Why tokens?? how can you take something that is not used? but people bought it and well earned. As TRON


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: readygoaw on January 10, 2018, 12:57:12 PM
Is Ripple second place a signal that people do not care about Decentralization?
Is Ripple the ultimate Trojan  against the cryptocurrency world and bankers hidden weapon which will kill Bitcoins revolution?
What Ripple does is to support the FIAT currency and Banks, invest to it, is like you invest to FIAT currency. 

I think that such statements as we see in this thread are on the verge of stupidity. Ripple developers have passed through many uneasy circumstances to incorporate cryptocurrency technology into bank system and in our everyday life.


Title: Re: Ripple - Is a Trojan?
Post by: AllthewayUUppp on January 11, 2018, 06:02:29 PM
Yes it is that's why those banktards support XRP!