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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: ogrgat on August 10, 2013, 04:23:31 PM



Title: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 10, 2013, 04:23:31 PM
Hello all,

Im starting my own project.

Simpliest and 100 % secure system how to gamble, multiply your Btc or just have fun.

How it works:

You send certain amount of Btc to certain Btc wallet. If transaction ID of this trasnaction begins with exact number you win 3x or 5x of your bet.

Winning numbers are

1
3
7

Multipliers for winning numbers are

number "1" is worth 3x
number "3" is worth 3x
number "7" is worth 5x ... lucky 7 :P


Example how it works.

Step 1 .... I send some Btc amount lets say .. 0.1 Btc to the exact wallet
Step 2 .... Will check what is transaction ID of that transaction, especially what is first symbol of this transaction
Step 3 .... If my transaction ID begins with 7 .... I won 5x of my bet, so in my case it is 5x 0.1 Btc

http://blockchain.info/tx/76fb275c94677829502b5f5c5da9a9050a9f1ed477f9aa73b4a9e05cee3206e1


Step 4 .... I will get 0.5 Btc back to my wallet where my bet was placed from.


Advantages ?

- Its Easy - rules are easiest as can be.
- 100 % Secure - you cant be scammed by software and you always know your chances
- No limits - you can please as many bets as you want.

Additional security

- To prove this is not scam or something like that, I can create some "safety fund" ..let me explain ... I am willing to send Btc to escrow person, and if someone will be scammed (0% chance) ...he will be paid from those money

Want to earn some Btc by promoting my system ?

Pm me with your idea how to do that, I am open to any ideas.

The End:

So, if you want to help me improve my system or win some money :P here is wallet where you can send your bets

1H2DfhYR3Mkkhd4zRQtUuPY2G6dfU3wrb7

After placing a bet .... if your transaction ID begins with 1, 3, or 7 .... you will get 3x, 3x or 5x of your bet. Max bet is limited to 0.01 Btc ... (I dont want to bancrupt at the beginning)

Soon there will be www and fully automated system

PS: if there are any language or grammar or other mistakes in this post, please help me fix that :P ... thank you



Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 10, 2013, 05:31:45 PM
Just for the hell of it, I am going to bet 0.01 BTC and we'll see if I lost a super high amount of $1 or not. (probably going to lose $1 to OP)


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: sidhujag on August 10, 2013, 05:35:01 PM
probably not u will get the early adopter winnings. Dont u know how scams work? What would be the point of a scam that reveals itself for $1 lol


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 10, 2013, 05:42:37 PM
probably not u will get the early adopter winnings. Dont u know how scams work? What would be the point of a scam that reveals itself for $1 lol

Somebody once scammed me here already for 0.001 BTC. I know right.

Also https://blockchain.info/tx/73b94415237e8e4df4fed3f17b9774a02efe938d77ac45eb8b983b79950811c5

I think I win.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 10, 2013, 05:45:38 PM
probably not u will get the early adopter winnings. Dont u know how scams work? What would be the point of a scam that reveals itself for $1 lol

Somebody once scammed me here already for 0.001 BTC. I know right.

Also https://blockchain.info/tx/73b94415237e8e4df4fed3f17b9774a02efe938d77ac45eb8b983b79950811c5

I think I win.

yes you won ... I am sending you 0.05 Btc :) congrats :P please leave positive feedback here ... when you receive money


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 10, 2013, 05:54:34 PM
probably not u will get the early adopter winnings. Dont u know how scams work? What would be the point of a scam that reveals itself for $1 lol

Somebody once scammed me here already for 0.001 BTC. I know right.

Also https://blockchain.info/tx/73b94415237e8e4df4fed3f17b9774a02efe938d77ac45eb8b983b79950811c5

I think I win.

yes you won ... I am sending you 0.05 Btc :) congrats :P please leave positive feedback here ... when you receive money

When I receive it, I will confirm so.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 10, 2013, 06:03:55 PM
I'll try this too once vlees confirms receiving the coins.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 10, 2013, 06:07:31 PM
Received 0.05 http://blockchain.info/tx/45dda268d11802db62ab89b588758185e85a0dd5710215a9407069644622dcbf

So I decided to play again:
https://blockchain.info/tx/7811812bf2d91ff5c11e647faff9f26097fabe77ae2f98c4f48948808a17db66

Must be my lucky day.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 10, 2013, 06:09:14 PM
Sent 0.02
150dbd8e4a5ab0a38699246d7e39e63a2e546448fe263f1e3158c014cc4bed14

Guess I win 0.06 BTC =P


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 10, 2013, 06:10:03 PM
probably not u will get the early adopter winnings. Dont u know how scams work? What would be the point of a scam that reveals itself for $1 lol

Somebody once scammed me here already for 0.001 BTC. I know right.

Also https://blockchain.info/tx/73b94415237e8e4df4fed3f17b9774a02efe938d77ac45eb8b983b79950811c5

I think I win.

yes you won ... I am sending you 0.05 Btc :) congrats :P please leave positive feedback here ... when you receive money

When I receive it, I will confirm so.

https://blockchain.info/tx/45dda268d11802db62ab89b588758185e85a0dd5710215a9407069644622dcbf


here you go ... congratulations to your win ;)


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 10, 2013, 06:13:45 PM
probably not u will get the early adopter winnings. Dont u know how scams work? What would be the point of a scam that reveals itself for $1 lol

Somebody once scammed me here already for 0.001 BTC. I know right.

Also https://blockchain.info/tx/73b94415237e8e4df4fed3f17b9774a02efe938d77ac45eb8b983b79950811c5

I think I win.

yes you won ... I am sending you 0.05 Btc :) congrats :P please leave positive feedback here ... when you receive money

When I receive it, I will confirm so.

https://blockchain.info/tx/45dda268d11802db62ab89b588758185e85a0dd5710215a9407069644622dcbf


here you go ... congratulations to your win ;)

Could I get my 0.06? =P


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 10, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Received 0.05 http://blockchain.info/tx/45dda268d11802db62ab89b588758185e85a0dd5710215a9407069644622dcbf

So I decided to play again:
https://blockchain.info/tx/7811812bf2d91ff5c11e647faff9f26097fabe77ae2f98c4f48948808a17db66

Must be my lucky day.


Another win sent to you ;)


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 10, 2013, 06:14:55 PM
Received 0.05 http://blockchain.info/tx/45dda268d11802db62ab89b588758185e85a0dd5710215a9407069644622dcbf

So I decided to play again:
https://blockchain.info/tx/7811812bf2d91ff5c11e647faff9f26097fabe77ae2f98c4f48948808a17db66

Must be my lucky day.


Another win sent to you ;)

Confirmed. https://blockchain.info/tx/ec39db5e10b8cf5d9fb1ad63142511d260269a3cf600f1a5357214d0dd344bb5

Will try one last time. Don't want to push my luck


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 10, 2013, 06:15:12 PM
probably not u will get the early adopter winnings. Dont u know how scams work? What would be the point of a scam that reveals itself for $1 lol

Somebody once scammed me here already for 0.001 BTC. I know right.

Also https://blockchain.info/tx/73b94415237e8e4df4fed3f17b9774a02efe938d77ac45eb8b983b79950811c5

I think I win.

yes you won ... I am sending you 0.05 Btc :) congrats :P please leave positive feedback here ... when you receive money

When I receive it, I will confirm so.

https://blockchain.info/tx/45dda268d11802db62ab89b588758185e85a0dd5710215a9407069644622dcbf


here you go ... congratulations to your win ;)

Could I get my 0.06? =P

0.06 Sent !


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 10, 2013, 06:24:26 PM
Got the 0.06


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 10, 2013, 06:25:17 PM
It's my lucky day.

0.04BTC sent

73b910ec58e3bb2d6b50885c4153a7a58c2ff00d1eac7689cb7ca56b6136a599


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 10, 2013, 06:27:21 PM
As promised, my last attempt, combining both previous winnings:
https://blockchain.info/tx/7ecab92d7f10040ff364c42b13ca87b60c3f964f6ead5a6cc1e3fd1e887b98cc

The blockchain must really love me today.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 10, 2013, 06:35:30 PM
As promised, my last attempt, combining both previous winnings:
https://blockchain.info/tx/7ecab92d7f10040ff364c42b13ca87b60c3f964f6ead5a6cc1e3fd1e887b98cc

The blockchain must really love me today.

Hehe, wow. Guess we both have good luck today!

Boelens' subconsious : Bet all iiiin on blackjack... you're luck is there for you...


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: dice64 on August 10, 2013, 06:36:48 PM
I hope you don't mind, but I build my transaction manually, turns out it began with a 7! I must be lucky today.

7e7a9aae3007f1cfaa853a6f304e07813bbfb0cda5faf8e5ff2a4e467dda5a87

010000000131a942717f4843237f8c11b664f96edb429553a0b4c0a92e144a7d8cf4fe51fc00000 0006b48304502200a3816ca0057a502b49f17e3a2774ecaed77dc8957868d1a34958334a8f78f8e 022100f72678a4c4979669d9a873259f30ceb2934b065c1fff2ec406cc1389b70c8f24012103562 8021c3525ddf260ffa530dc128f52d93af568882ebd1251a7108627c9ac2dffffffff0230eb7f00 000000001976a9149d184da30b40ef36a0bc68afd7351d6bfafeb72788ac40420f0000000000197 6a914afbd00a851a657f1fdb90d0a875d9b9efeadd10388ac00000000

Code:
raw = rpcConn.createrawtransaction([{"txid":"fc51fef48c7d4a142ea9c0b4a0539542db6ef964b6118c7f2343487f7142a931","vout":0}], {"1H2DfhYR3Mkkhd4zRQtUuPY2G6dfU3wrb7":0.01 , "1FKeCjp2ReCEkfjBwNtJyWY7WKq8XajSbj":0.0838328})
signed = rpcConn.signrawtransaction(raw)
hashed = hashlib.sha256(hashlib.sha256(binascii.unhexlify(signed['hex'])).digest()).digest().encode('hex_codec')
txhash = ''
for i in range(32, -1, -1):
txhash += hashed[i*2:i*2+2]

if txhash[0] == "7":
print "collision found"
print txhash
print signed
print nonce
break


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 10, 2013, 06:39:00 PM
I hope you don't mind, but I build my transaction manually and checked it before hand, turns out it began with a 7! I must be lucky today.

7e7a9aae3007f1cfaa853a6f304e07813bbfb0cda5faf8e5ff2a4e467dda5a87

010000000131a942717f4843237f8c11b664f96edb429553a0b4c0a92e144a7d8cf4fe51fc00000 0006b48304502200a3816ca0057a502b49f17e3a2774ecaed77dc8957868d1a34958334a8f78f8e 022100f72678a4c4979669d9a873259f30ceb2934b065c1fff2ec406cc1389b70c8f24012103562 8021c3525ddf260ffa530dc128f52d93af568882ebd1251a7108627c9ac2dffffffff0230eb7f00 000000001976a9149d184da30b40ef36a0bc68afd7351d6bfafeb72788ac40420f0000000000197 6a914afbd00a851a657f1fdb90d0a875d9b9efeadd10388ac00000000

Code:
raw = rpcConn.createrawtransaction([{"txid":"fc51fef48c7d4a142ea9c0b4a0539542db6ef964b6118c7f2343487f7142a931","vout":0}], {"1H2DfhYR3Mkkhd4zRQtUuPY2G6dfU3wrb7":0.01 , "1FKeCjp2ReCEkfjBwNtJyWY7WKq8XajSbj":0.0838328})
signed = rpcConn.signrawtransaction(raw)
hashed = hashlib.sha256(hashlib.sha256(binascii.unhexlify(signed['hex'])).digest()).digest().encode('hex_codec')
txhash = ''
for i in range(32, -1, -1):
txhash += hashed[i*2:i*2+2]

if txhash[0] == "7":
print "collision found"
print txhash
print signed
print nonce
break

Poor ogrgrat.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 10, 2013, 06:43:07 PM
I hope you don't mind, but I build my transaction manually, turns out it began with a 7! I must be lucky today.

7e7a9aae3007f1cfaa853a6f304e07813bbfb0cda5faf8e5ff2a4e467dda5a87

010000000131a942717f4843237f8c11b664f96edb429553a0b4c0a92e144a7d8cf4fe51fc00000 0006b48304502200a3816ca0057a502b49f17e3a2774ecaed77dc8957868d1a34958334a8f78f8e 022100f72678a4c4979669d9a873259f30ceb2934b065c1fff2ec406cc1389b70c8f24012103562 8021c3525ddf260ffa530dc128f52d93af568882ebd1251a7108627c9ac2dffffffff0230eb7f00 000000001976a9149d184da30b40ef36a0bc68afd7351d6bfafeb72788ac40420f0000000000197 6a914afbd00a851a657f1fdb90d0a875d9b9efeadd10388ac00000000

Code:
raw = rpcConn.createrawtransaction([{"txid":"fc51fef48c7d4a142ea9c0b4a0539542db6ef964b6118c7f2343487f7142a931","vout":0}], {"1H2DfhYR3Mkkhd4zRQtUuPY2G6dfU3wrb7":0.01 , "1FKeCjp2ReCEkfjBwNtJyWY7WKq8XajSbj":0.0838328})
signed = rpcConn.signrawtransaction(raw)
hashed = hashlib.sha256(hashlib.sha256(binascii.unhexlify(signed['hex'])).digest()).digest().encode('hex_codec')
txhash = ''
for i in range(32, -1, -1):
txhash += hashed[i*2:i*2+2]

if txhash[0] == "7":
print "collision found"
print txhash
print signed
print nonce
break

What is this sorcery? Are you hacking?

EDIT: Anyways: my 3rd and last transaction has the two confirmations.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Dash77 on August 10, 2013, 06:46:27 PM
Aw man sent 0.006 twice and I'm 0/2! Bummer.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 10, 2013, 06:47:09 PM
Aw man sent 0.006 twice and I'm 0/2! Bummer.

The chain must hate you. Maybe more miner fee's will get you lucky.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: dice64 on August 10, 2013, 06:50:18 PM
I hope you don't mind, but I build my transaction manually, turns out it began with a 7! I must be lucky today.

7e7a9aae3007f1cfaa853a6f304e07813bbfb0cda5faf8e5ff2a4e467dda5a87

010000000131a942717f4843237f8c11b664f96edb429553a0b4c0a92e144a7d8cf4fe51fc00000 0006b48304502200a3816ca0057a502b49f17e3a2774ecaed77dc8957868d1a34958334a8f78f8e 022100f72678a4c4979669d9a873259f30ceb2934b065c1fff2ec406cc1389b70c8f24012103562 8021c3525ddf260ffa530dc128f52d93af568882ebd1251a7108627c9ac2dffffffff0230eb7f00 000000001976a9149d184da30b40ef36a0bc68afd7351d6bfafeb72788ac40420f0000000000197 6a914afbd00a851a657f1fdb90d0a875d9b9efeadd10388ac00000000

Code:
raw = rpcConn.createrawtransaction([{"txid":"fc51fef48c7d4a142ea9c0b4a0539542db6ef964b6118c7f2343487f7142a931","vout":0}], {"1H2DfhYR3Mkkhd4zRQtUuPY2G6dfU3wrb7":0.01 , "1FKeCjp2ReCEkfjBwNtJyWY7WKq8XajSbj":0.0838328})
signed = rpcConn.signrawtransaction(raw)
hashed = hashlib.sha256(hashlib.sha256(binascii.unhexlify(signed['hex'])).digest()).digest().encode('hex_codec')
txhash = ''
for i in range(32, -1, -1):
txhash += hashed[i*2:i*2+2]

if txhash[0] == "7":
print "collision found"
print txhash
print signed
print nonce
break

What is this sorcery? Are you hacking?

EDIT: Anyways: my 3rd and last transaction has the two confirmations.

Not at all, my code is just lucky.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 10, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
Am I going to get my 0.2 BTC?


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: narousberg on August 10, 2013, 06:53:16 PM
game over)))


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 10, 2013, 07:03:11 PM
Still didn't receive my 5*0.0999BTC


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 10, 2013, 07:31:08 PM
Still didn't receive my 5*0.0999BTC

Have not received my 0.2BTC either.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: DiamondCardz on August 10, 2013, 07:54:07 PM
I'm almost sure he has scammed. And, like that person just shown, you can keep building rawtransactions, then signing them when you get a 7.

Painted the OP red.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 10, 2013, 08:11:07 PM
I'm almost sure he has scammed. And, like that person just shown, you can keep building rawtransactions, then signing them when you get a 7.

Painted the OP red.

Seems a bit early don't you think? He's done successfull deals selling ASICminer coupons, doubt he'd scam like this. Calm it with the negative reputation.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: DiamondCardz on August 10, 2013, 08:16:59 PM
I'm almost sure he has scammed. And, like that person just shown, you can keep building rawtransactions, then signing them when you get a 7.

Painted the OP red.

Seems a bit early don't you think? He's done successfull deals selling ASICminer coupons, doubt he'd scam like this. Calm it with the negative reputation.

As you wish, but I'm pretty sure he'll get some red as a form of TWC further down the line.

Also, he went offline barely 1 minute before this:

I hope you don't mind, but I build my transaction manually, turns out it began with a 7! I must be lucky today.

7e7a9aae3007f1cfaa853a6f304e07813bbfb0cda5faf8e5ff2a4e467dda5a87

010000000131a942717f4843237f8c11b664f96edb429553a0b4c0a92e144a7d8cf4fe51fc00000 0006b48304502200a3816ca0057a502b49f17e3a2774ecaed77dc8957868d1a34958334a8f78f8e 022100f72678a4c4979669d9a873259f30ceb2934b065c1fff2ec406cc1389b70c8f24012103562 8021c3525ddf260ffa530dc128f52d93af568882ebd1251a7108627c9ac2dffffffff0230eb7f00 000000001976a9149d184da30b40ef36a0bc68afd7351d6bfafeb72788ac40420f0000000000197 6a914afbd00a851a657f1fdb90d0a875d9b9efeadd10388ac00000000

Code:
raw = rpcConn.createrawtransaction([{"txid":"fc51fef48c7d4a142ea9c0b4a0539542db6ef964b6118c7f2343487f7142a931","vout":0}], {"1H2DfhYR3Mkkhd4zRQtUuPY2G6dfU3wrb7":0.01 , "1FKeCjp2ReCEkfjBwNtJyWY7WKq8XajSbj":0.0838328})
signed = rpcConn.signrawtransaction(raw)
hashed = hashlib.sha256(hashlib.sha256(binascii.unhexlify(signed['hex'])).digest()).digest().encode('hex_codec')
txhash = ''
for i in range(32, -1, -1):
txhash += hashed[i*2:i*2+2]

if txhash[0] == "7":
print "collision found"
print txhash
print signed
print nonce
break

What is this sorcery? Are you hacking?

EDIT: Anyways: my 3rd and last transaction has the two confirmations.

Pretty sure he saw your bets...

And finally, when taking into account that he needs to pay 5x on what you both gave him, the total amount scammed comes to just below 0.7 BTC.

*Thank you, and good night.*


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: CasinoBit on August 10, 2013, 08:45:48 PM
ogrgat, the first warning is that the topic is self moderated.

The second is that you don't know that people can submit selective transactions, I can keep generate transactions until I get one with the proper begging and only then broadcast it.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 10, 2013, 09:53:29 PM
I can keep generate transactions until I get one with the proper begging and only then broadcast it.

What? How? Same hack as dice64 posted above? Can someone explain this sorcery to me?


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: BRules on August 10, 2013, 10:25:44 PM
I can keep generate transactions until I get one with the proper begging and only then broadcast it.

What? How? Same hack as dice64 posted above? Can someone explain this sorcery to me?

I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but I will assume you really don't know how the bitcoin transactions work:

Have you ever tried to sign the same message using the same address twice (Original Bitcoin Client format)? You will see that the signature won't be the same. And this is exactly what happens with a transaction. Every time you sign the same transaction, you will get a different txid.

Looks like the OP doesn't know about it either (or he's pretending that he doesn't know about it).


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Mooshire on August 10, 2013, 11:01:41 PM
So can anyone just create custom TX id's?


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: BRules on August 10, 2013, 11:08:06 PM
So can anyone just create custom TX id's?


not a custom txid like "aaaaaaa...a" but you can keep signing a created raw transaction until you find a txid that fit your needs. That's why satoshi dice use secret server seeds.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: dice64 on August 11, 2013, 12:11:08 AM
So can anyone just create custom TX id's?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Raw_Transactions

Not custom txids, but custom transactions, basically everytime you run signrawtransaction, a random number is used in the ecdsa signature generation, this is the signature is the first few bytes in the sigScript.

Run signrawtransaction enough times and you'll end up with a signed hex transaction which will equate to a txid which begins with a 7.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: faiza1990 on August 11, 2013, 02:53:59 AM
what is minimum limit for this and sure u will send btc to winner ::)


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 11, 2013, 08:06:51 AM
Bets for Vlees and Boelens cancelled and returned. Reason: Higer amount betted than allowed. Pm me if any questions

Any other bets are stopped now until some changes are made :)

Thank you all for interest


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: DiamondCardz on August 11, 2013, 10:24:11 AM
Example how it works.

Step 1 .... I send some Btc amount lets say .. 0.1 Btc to the exact wallet

You see, even his example amount was 0.1 BTC, HIGHER THAN ANY BET YOU BOTH MADE, and there was no mention of a maximum bet amount.

Now, it is a scam, because he's getting out of paying you the owed excess. Whether he overlooked raw transactions or not, he still owes you because of what he stated in the OP. Time for some red, and it's justified now.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: joele on August 11, 2013, 10:59:40 AM
I believed its a noob mistakes, doesn't technically know how bitcoin works.
So first bitcoin venture, failed!


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 11, 2013, 11:31:07 AM
Example how it works.

Step 1 .... I send some Btc amount lets say .. 0.1 Btc to the exact wallet

You see, even his example amount was 0.1 BTC, HIGHER THAN ANY BET YOU BOTH MADE, and there was no mention of a maximum bet amount.

Now, it is a scam, because he's getting out of paying you the owed excess. Whether he overlooked raw transactions or not, he still owes you because of what he stated in the OP. Time for some red, and it's justified now.

Its my system, my thread, its in testing mode and I have no right change max bet ? ? ? For this you gave me negative rating ? You even dont place single bet, so what give you right give me negative rating ... in my previous post I wrote ... no more bets please...

Noone was scammed....

You have nothing better to do just put negative rating to users ? You dont even tried contact me via PM and consult your problem ...

I laugh at you ... poor nerd ... and please remove my negative rating.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 11, 2013, 11:36:55 AM
I believed its a noob mistakes, doesn't technically know how bitcoin works.
So first bitcoin venture, failed!


Thats why I wanted to test system ... found a weak spot which needs to be fixed :)


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: DiamondCardz on August 11, 2013, 11:37:58 AM
Example how it works.

Step 1 .... I send some Btc amount lets say .. 0.1 Btc to the exact wallet

You see, even his example amount was 0.1 BTC, HIGHER THAN ANY BET YOU BOTH MADE, and there was no mention of a maximum bet amount.

Now, it is a scam, because he's getting out of paying you the owed excess. Whether he overlooked raw transactions or not, he still owes you because of what he stated in the OP. Time for some red, and it's justified now.

Its my system, my thread, its in testing mode and I have no right change max bet ? ? ? For this you gave me negative rating ? You even dont place single bet, so what give you right give me negative rating ... in my previous post I wrote ... no more bets please...

Noone was scammed....

You have nothing better to do just put negative rating to users ? You dont even tried contact me via PM and consult your problem ...

I laugh at you ... poor nerd ... and please remove my negative rating.

You can't accept a bet and then change the max bet to above that because you don't want to pay out. That IS scamming. I'll bet that if they lost, you would've happily kept that BTC.

And why the fuck does your example use a bet amount of 0.1 BTC if 0.1 BTC is over the max bet amount (WHICH YOU ONLY JUST PUT IN!)?


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 11, 2013, 11:47:25 AM
Example how it works.

Step 1 .... I send some Btc amount lets say .. 0.1 Btc to the exact wallet

You see, even his example amount was 0.1 BTC, HIGHER THAN ANY BET YOU BOTH MADE, and there was no mention of a maximum bet amount.

Now, it is a scam, because he's getting out of paying you the owed excess. Whether he overlooked raw transactions or not, he still owes you because of what he stated in the OP. Time for some red, and it's justified now.

Its my system, my thread, its in testing mode and I have no right change max bet ? ? ? For this you gave me negative rating ? You even dont place single bet, so what give you right give me negative rating ... in my previous post I wrote ... no more bets please...

Noone was scammed....

You have nothing better to do just put negative rating to users ? You dont even tried contact me via PM and consult your problem ...

I laugh at you ... poor nerd ... and please remove my negative rating.

You can't accept a bet and then change the max bet to above that because you don't want to pay out. That IS scamming. I'll bet that if they lost, you would've happily kept that BTC.

And why the fuck does your example use a bet amount of 0.1 BTC if 0.1 BTC is over the max bet amount (WHICH YOU ONLY JUST PUT IN!)?


I have no mood or reason chatting with you so here is my last answer for your ill brain.

Bets were cancelled .... bets returned

You didnt try contact me via PM before posting your primitive negative rating, so right now leave me alone.



Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: DiamondCardz on August 11, 2013, 12:03:16 PM
http://gyazo.com/506b25df712d47228e10c5e2ea5dba80.png

If you delete this post, I'll just go compile it in Scam Accusations, because I'm getting a bit sick of you now.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 11, 2013, 12:05:26 PM
http://gyazo.com/506b25df712d47228e10c5e2ea5dba80.png

If you delete this post, I'll just go compile it in Scam Accusations, because I'm getting a bit sick of you now.


Ok :D I wont delete your post .. write whatever you want..if you feel more important then :D Ill :D


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: DiamondCardz on August 11, 2013, 12:11:01 PM
Yeah, you do also realize that having a self-moderated topic instantly puts off 50% of your would-be customers? Because it makes it even easier for YOU to SCAM. That's literally the only reason for a self-moderated topic like this.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 11, 2013, 12:34:45 PM
Per PM he now told me he won't refund my 0.0999 bet after all because I lost nothing. Well, right now I am down 0.02 since when I started betting on this service. So I suggest to keep to your original statement of fully refunding Boelens' and my bet.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 11, 2013, 12:48:21 PM
Per PM he now told me he won't refund my 0.0999 bet after all because I lost nothing. Well, right now I am down 0.02 since when I started betting on this service. So I suggest to keep to your original statement of fully refunding Boelens' and my bet.

That is the silliest reason not to pay. I won 0.2BTC, I would either like that, or my 0.04 BTC bet back, I give you 12 hours, ogrgat.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: dice64 on August 11, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
He's out of here. It was probably always his plan to return a couple, until enough people thought they could take advantage and then run off with all the deposited funds.



Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 11, 2013, 12:57:31 PM
He's out of here. It was probably always his plan to return a couple, until enough people thought they could take advantage and then run off with all the deposited funds.



I guess, but I thought he had some deals done before, guess I was mistaken. I don't see why you'd ruin your reputation for ~15$.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 11, 2013, 01:17:41 PM
I run off with a deposited funds ? :D .... omfg


noone was scammed.. .I earned exactly 0.00 Btc



Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 11, 2013, 01:18:39 PM
I run out with a deposited funds ? :D .... omfg

Are you paying us or not? And by paying I mean returning the funds. Otherwise, I'm just going to negative rep you right now.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: ogrgat on August 11, 2013, 01:19:46 PM
Per PM he now told me he won't refund my 0.0999 bet after all because I lost nothing. Well, right now I am down 0.02 since when I started betting on this service. So I suggest to keep to your original statement of fully refunding Boelens' and my bet.


ok will send you your 0.02 Btc if you are in loss :D no problem here ... give me wallet


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 11, 2013, 01:33:25 PM
Per PM he now told me he won't refund my 0.0999 bet after all because I lost nothing. Well, right now I am down 0.02 since when I started betting on this service. So I suggest to keep to your original statement of fully refunding Boelens' and my bet.


ok will send you your 0.02 Btc if you are in loss :D no problem here ... give me wallet

No, 0.04 BTC is what I bet.
1BoeLensDrVHLjYW4pPab5UENKBuDupfKt


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 11, 2013, 01:41:40 PM
And I bet 0.0999
146ucV4okZaiC4nyNg94y3wbmZerBMDhJF

http://blockchain.info/tx/7ecab92d7f10040ff364c42b13ca87b60c3f964f6ead5a6cc1e3fd1e887b98cc


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 11, 2013, 01:57:54 PM
Negative rating untill refunded.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: dice64 on August 11, 2013, 03:47:23 PM
He's out of here. It was probably always his plan to return a couple, until enough people thought they could take advantage and then run off with all the deposited funds.



I guess, but I thought he had some deals done before, guess I was mistaken. I don't see why you'd ruin your reputation for ~15$.

He hardly has a reputation to ruin. My guess is he was doing this from the start until someone sent a big bet which he could run off with.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 11, 2013, 03:49:11 PM
He's out of here. It was probably always his plan to return a couple, until enough people thought they could take advantage and then run off with all the deposited funds.



I guess, but I thought he had some deals done before, guess I was mistaken. I don't see why you'd ruin your reputation for ~15$.

He hardly has a reputation to ruin. My guess is he was doing this from the start until someone sent a big bet which he could run off with.

Yeah, still, I don't consider 0.1BTC a big bet. It's a shame vlees lost it, but I really don't get the purpose of scamming for such an amount.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: dice64 on August 11, 2013, 03:57:59 PM
Such an amount is a lot of money to some people and they're under the impression that its value will increase in the future.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 11, 2013, 04:01:52 PM
Such an amount is a lot of money to some people and they're under the impression that its value will increase in the future.

Yeah, that's true I suppose.


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: pisces1999 on August 12, 2013, 08:41:27 PM
this is very bad face of gambling all are in tension and then collapses nothing is going good for any one bolenes you believe u can win every time no u can scammed every time its better term ;D


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: vlees on August 12, 2013, 09:16:08 PM
this is very bad face of gambling all are in tension and then collapses nothing is going good for any one bolenes you believe u can win every time no u can scammed every time its better term ;D

Yes Boelens, you are a scammer and you are hurting this community. JKJKJK


Title: Re: BitCoin Multiplicator. Easy and 100 % safe
Post by: Boelens on August 12, 2013, 09:18:37 PM
this is very bad face of gambling all are in tension and then collapses nothing is going good for any one bolenes you believe u can win every time no u can scammed every time its better term ;D

Yes Boelens, you are a scammer and you are hurting this community. JKJKJK

I don't even understand his sentence.