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So bitcoin got extremely high transaction fees, slowdowns, huge risks.
While ETH gets ton of shady ICOs and their most successful dApp is some stupid dancing cat avatar.

Both can be named Shitcoins and Scams, what will they ever be used for other than storages of money which they are good for? This does not justify their current prices, they probably should drop by 50% or more.

Yet WTC just signed China Mobile the worlds largest mobile carrier, as well as many other industry leaders and even exchanges, and will get to $50bn to $100bn market cap soon, yet nobody here even talks about them? Everyone buying BTC and ETH expecting *50 now?

ETH being $100k and Bitcoin being 1m? Lol....

Market really is crazy, a bubble and with tons of dumb money.

I hope for a crash because then WTC will still be worth $100bn.

So give us constructive reasons, how WTC will improve human lives?

This looks funny, if bitcoin and eth are shitcoins what will you call ripple and trons, maybe you have another decimation for shitcoin that we don't know.

"Nice" topic on BITCOINtalk

It looks similar when your Facebook friend post (on facebook) about how crap facebook is. got it?  ::)

Good evening,please i do wish to know something,this has bordered me so well and now i have decided to honestly let it out so i can be taught on it,recently i have heard about this word shitcoin I sincerely have wondered so well whats it could be and haven’t come out woth anything positive,please this moment i want to be grounded and taught on what that really mean because i can be in a whole ocean and still go thirsty,please can someone volunteer and tell me what the word shitcoin is about please I plead.Sincerely hope for an answer

I would definitely like to see his definition of shitcoin.  I can agree that they are not perfect but right now they are the gold and silver of the crypto world. 

You can be named as a shittalker, spammer, or just a retard after spreading baseless FUD by creating multiple threads. Here was the first one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2746052.msg28057505#msg28057505
Such behaviour will never make this coin look more legit (even if it is worthy of any investments) in the eyes of crypto friendly bitcoin community.

It always amuse me when people criticize Bitcoin for slow transactions and high fees. Let's take a minute and think about a situation where Coin X being used on a level of Bitcoin. Will it still be cheaper and fast? The current ETH congestion is the proof that any coin if used at the level and volume of Bitcoin will face scalablilty issue.

Now coming to ETH dApp known as CryptoKitties. Well, we can't judge people's fun or joy even if they trading virtual kitties but as crypto enthusiasts, we too have gain alot from CryptoKitties case. It acted as a trial test for Eth security and speed. So we shouldn't criticize it either.

Bitcoin and Ethereum both are the real gems of crypto market. It can not be named as shit coin. My friend nothing is perfect. There is always some probabilities for improvement but we cant say shit coin and those who knows the potential of bitcoin and Ethereum they will keep buying.

Both are not shit coins, both are the real thing doesn't matter the transaction fees and the delay times.

Is this some kind of trolling? BTC and ETH are more stable then any others crypto now. Your thoughts looks like very funy and silly imho. And I still dont see any reason why WTC not shitty coin?

I think that bitcoin will soon be changes for the better and scale faster than Ethereum.
There will not be a crash, I would not hope, on the contrary, everything will be

We feel your grievances and we cannot blame you. That's your opinion or maybe you'r just trolling. Regardless, please define shitcoin.

If Bitcoin and Ethereum are shitcoins then can we assume that you do not own one, even a ERC20 token? Whoops, I saw an ETH address on your post history  ::) I did not dig deeper, I know that I will just waste my time proving this is a FUD when obviously this is.


Hmm, shittercoins perhaps?  ;D

When a coin is exposed to as much network traffic as Bitcoin and ETH has been exposed too then all of them would of had to accommodate by rising the fees. This is because the coins need to rely on miners to use their processing power to move any transactions and solve the maths problem within the code. This means for them to be able to do this they priorities transactions with higher fees. The more transactions being made the more the fees go up.

All cryptocurrencies has same blockchain like ethereum and bitcoin but not same dataload.

Bitcoin and ethereum are not shit coins all alternative coins are build on either bitcoin or ethereum technology.They are all copies of the original these new coins only improve on bitcoin or ethereum.

OP i think your experiece in crypto is wrong because it's run by conveniece that it can brings so if it's not good or go well i think this will close or this will ban in some place so i say you can leave crypto anytime you want.For me crypto is one of the world best create as it's way for the knowledge in life and that's all people wants if you ask me,Moreover btc and eth are both as a digital money you can easy transfer this all over the world,i think if we continue like in the future we can call digital money as international money.

I don't think so.

Why should that be shit coins? I think these are the last coins you can call shit coins.
I have the feeling that some people here consider "their" coins as religion and worship them. Altcoins but also BTC have their advantages and disadvantages.
So why always so negative to coins that you might not own?  ::)

its just the crypto world is not mature now...
almost every coin that will have millions of users will become not stable and make problems
its the way it is right now..
we need to wait another year or two for 3rd generation projects to fully operate

I hope you are just trolling. It's well known fact that Bitcoin is older technology and newer cryptocurrencies have more advanced features and technical properties but Bitcoin is still the most famous and has the role of The cryptocurrency, a default cryptocurrency that is used as a reference and most crypto-to-crypto trades are still done via Bitcoin. You can't trade Cardano for EOS for example.
And Ethereum has a long roadmap planned for 2018, 2019 and even further. Some of the best blockchain developers in the world are working on Ethereum so it will not be outdated for another 5 years at least!

I think this is a troll, just promotion for a real shitcoin that copied BTC's code, then calls BTC a shitcoin. mfw

How can you call King and Queen of Cryptocurrencies shit coins? I think your opinion about them is very wrong. You need to do more research about what you investing in because it might later turn out different from what you think.

Thats really funny. If Bitcoin and Ethereum are shitcoins, what's the good coins then ? You are saying in fact that there is no good digital currencies, in other words. Well in this case, you can go away and search for other opportunities because this forum is full of Bitcoin and crypto currencies lovers, holders and traders, and I doubt highly that some of them will believe you.

So tell me please - how can I buy WTC from the scratch? The answer is that I need to buy bitcoin/ethereum first and then exchange it on WTC... Here is the answer WHY.

I totally disagree with this statement. Bitcoin and Ethereum are most popular and respected coins out there. I hope you are not serious.

Bitcoins are shit because their transaction fees is high and speed is low, bitcoins demand has increased a lot this year and so has the transactions so it will have high fees and low speed but soon lightning network is coming for bitcoins which would solve this problem.And as for Ethereum it is a unregulated platform so there will be many project with different ideas and teams.Bitcoin and etheruem are top coins in the  crypto currency market no doubt there are not many coins who would rival these coins.

Because Bitcoin and ETH hold no value (other than using it to pay, and trade... well and ETH got some cat dApps and shady Icos..) and may be at their peak already. You see at some point BTC, ETH cant rise anymore and the higher they are, the harder it gets to have gains.

And I do have BTC. I dont "hate" BTC. But see, my BTC used to be 100%. I used 20% of the BTC to buy some Altcoins. And now... a couple of months later.... I hold 80% of Altcoins and 20% of BTC. But thats still with me never even touching the original BTC. I never sold more BTC. But BTC is dead capital. It rose maybe x3 but many of my Altcoins went x5,10,x20,x30 .. Some even a bit more than that.

As for WTC (Walton) unlike most of the other coins its a real company, with real products, patents, powering a smart city, agrarculture projects and so on. So thats some REAL value over just a virtual value. Its probably the most underrated "coin" right now as it may be bigger than Samsung some day.

Another newbie that have no idea in crypto world and now creating topic accusating bitcoin and ethereum are shitcoin whats wrong with you paps ? Hahaha
Bitcoin and ethereum have a high volume in the market more and more investor are attracting in there potential so this two altcoin are not shitcoin they give a lot opportunity in all of us even the transaction are too slow and have high fee still it legit and have potential.

These two coins are not shit coin at all what do you call ripple and other huh? Shitcoins doesnt have value you know buy we must respect your opinion but still bitcoin and ethereum are not shit coins theyre genuine

So they cant ever crash? The higher their market cap is, the better? The more safe?

Sorry bro but this is basis for crash & losing all your money.

Also like I just said above your post. My bitcoin is dead capital. I made my fortune when I used 20% of my bitcoin to buy altcoins. Its now worth 5 times of what all my bitcoin is worth. So if I stayed in Bitcoin maybe now I would have 50k? But by going out of bitcoin (with just 20%) I now own 5 times that. You see how useless Bitcoin has become because its so high?

The funny thing is that your rank is member, so it has been a while that you are here. My question is why are you even here at all?

Okay so your opinion does not represent the fact or the truth. You seem pretty arrogant and I kinda get your point. But you cannot control the market and what they want, unless you create more bad reviews that will create distrust in your so called shitcoins.

All you did was trash talk bitcoin but did not give anything valuable about the coin you are hyping. That does not represent well with the coin your pushing. Next time be a better man and just present the key points of your project without trash talking the competition.

What I say is actually more true and more fact than what the whole market thinks. I am only wrong if Bitcoin goes to $30k, $50k, $100k, $500k and $1m.

But who is going to pay that for 1 Bitcoin?

$15k is probably the price Bitcoin will stay at forever. And thats a good thing.

But for me this is still dead capital, I mean its good to store capital. Use it to trade. And to save your altcoin profits.

But see ETH? It might never have any products that the world needs. It might never really be used for anything. While something as Walton is already solving a lot of the worlds problems. Yet ETH keeps rising because millenials who know nothing about the world and about history put all their hopes in ETH and what is this, if not a bubble? Is some cat dApp really the peak of what ETH can do?

Walton (WTC) is not a coin its a real company with a vision. I expect everyone being able to do their own research.

Is this the best way to promote WTC? Well, if bitcoin and eth are really scam so why almost all peope are using it? Anyway, you did a good job, you made us noticed your promoted WTC coins, I just hope it will beat bitcoin and eth price. Good luck.

Believe him, he will be the next John McAfee  ???
He warned us, Bitcoin and Ethereum will die and the Shi*coin is the next supremacy  ;D

I dont work for WTC. I dont even own that many WTC. I did buy some, of course. I will probably buy more. But I really do believe in it. I know what businesses become a success and what dont. I know patents are important. A vision. A great team. Connections to business networks and industry leaders help. Walton got all that, plus an academic background.

You see Dentacoin is valued at over $1bn. Its really just one guy. He seems cool and driven but its one guy. This would be worth maybe $200k at the most. But they tagged a coin on it and went insane and now its worth 5000 times that on the market.

This drove me to rethink BTC and ETH. Its only so high because of hype and people expecting revolutions.

On the other hand this is still giant opportunity to pick the real gold in the coinmarketcap. And x50 your money.

So I am trying to help bitcointalk see more clearly. And dont hate on me.. If actually EVERYBODY, the press, everyone, starts saying "buy bitcoin" then its usually the time of bubble crashing. So be happy some people show you a different reality :)

it doesn't matter what you would pay for 1 bitcoin. the simple fact is that you don't need to buy a FULL bitcoin at any point.
you come off as one of those people buying dentacoin because "IT'S GOING TO $1 AND IT'S LESS THAN A PENNY".

As for what the market thinks... Bitcoin is a store of value, that will be used when the time is right in the person's life.
Ethereum may end up replacing that due to Bitcoin Futures. Same idea as commodities futures where you hedge to protect yourself.

Eth is responsible for 95% of the coins/tokens available on the market today. To say it doesn't have value is absurd. Sure, there aren't very many useful products that have come out of it, but you saying that "it might never be really used for anything" is a shit argument.

Maybe he was tired to predicting Bitcoin and Ethereum as time goes by on price movements and expressing the opinion easily until harassing, or maybe he has failed on his investment in it or anything else that makes him to said that.

Indeed.. everyone will certainly have their respective opinions, but I think OP's opinion will surely lose with everyone's thoughts in here.;D

Hilarious. The topic starter is shilling his shitcoin by calling bitcoin and ethereum a shitcoin.

FYI, your WTC (whatever the hell that is) shitcoin was based on BTC and ETH. That means your coin is shit of shit.
Its probably created by shit developers who just learned about crypto last month. About damn time, must have took them forever to fork BTC/ETH code.

So ETH is the mother of all sh*tcoins?

We can thank ETH for the 950+ sh*tcoins?

Oh but they also have a cat dApp!!!

This will be huge!! /s

It's natural for others to hate on what's doing well and famous. You are just hating because your coin is not doing to well and is amount to nothing. Before you state that please give a credible reason why you think that bitcoin and eth are shit.

Ripple has one working partnership with a small south american bank that actually involves the ripple coin.

They do have a lot of marketing blabla and other partnerships not related to the ripple coin.

So yeah its probably way overvalued too because of hype.

What bothers me personally is that so few people in the coin market (like coin investors) realize which actually are the projects/companies that do hold an actual value. Like the 100+ blockchain patents of WTC and its blockchain chip. I mean people rather buy dentacoin now that I and many others made *100 on it already buying it extremely cheap. Why would you buy something as Dentacoin when its extremely high?

Dentacoin is worth more than Walton currently in Coinmarketap. I mean just compare the two. The real worth of Walton is like 5000 times higher, if not more. Its one guy (Dentacoin) vs. an Industry Disruptor with best connections in South Korea and China, 100 patents, exchange partnerships, real childnet projects incuding smart city, agrar, china mobile (largest mobile company in the planet).

Bitcoin having extremely high transaction fee and slow confirmation time doesn't mean that it is a shitcoin, and how sure are you that Walton coin will grow up to $100 billion? Walton rapidly increases its value in just short period of time but does that mean it will continue to rise? I don't think so, look at the price right now, it started to drop because it's a pump and dump altcoin. I search about this coin and find out that the code is not even open source, so as an investor how sure are we that it is secured if we can't see how it works? I like the technology of this coin but codes should be released in public.

HELLO,you seem to have some big misunderstanding.
Do you think that having reached such values like $19k and $1200 in case of Bitcoin and ethereum is a trivial thing!!??? Can such coins with such value be called shitcoins!!????
Please give some valid reasons to call them so.

Btw what is WTC ....this is the first time I am hearing of such a thing  :)

You thread clearly sounds that you are promoting WTC coin because you have invested in WTC , here I am not saying that your are wrong at your place to promote any coin but you should think thousands of the time before to say any coin shit or scam because the main thing is proof ,if you will have no proof then surely you are wrong .
No doubt that Bitcoin fee Transaction is really very high and also the price fee of etherium is high( not at that much , still more under control then what Bitcoin has specially at exchange ) , we should see towards the team progress that they are working for it to solve this problem by using segwit 2x experiment soon and in that case fee will decrease to very down and we will be able to transfer Bitcoin at very low fee .

If ETH rises to $ 13,000, then the cost per transaction would be higher than the current bitcoin transaction fee. Charge based on the value of each Altcoin can be achieved, think the Altcoin the lower the cost of each transaction the lower.

Of course BTC and ETH are not shitcoins. But in fact they have a lot of problems in there networks. I'm sure in a few years new great project will come on market and take the lead. But i doubt it will be WCT... This post sounds like bad marketing :-\

I don't agree with any of these ideas. Bitcoin and Ethereum are the father of all altcoins.
Without Bitcoin and Ethereum, there is no crypto currency world.

Are you sure you thought this thru?
I actually made *100 on Dentacoin and *50, *30 on many other coins.. Because I bought them extremely cheap
knowing the market would send them thru the roof.

From all the people who buy bitcoin at $15k thinking it goes to $1m....

I dont buy such things, but yes the market indeed does.

Do you consider overpriced coins shitcoins? I do. I dont buy them. I buy cheap. WTC is a real company, thats
the difference compared to all the shitcoins. Even if WTC goes 10x its still not overvalued because the company
behind it is actually worth it. Just their patents may be worth billions.

Where is this value in ETH and BTC?

Where do you see their peak? I mean its not possible for them to keep rising until the end of time because at some point they would own the whole planet, then the whole universe....

If you just look at bitcoin and eth in the last 6 months they pretty much have haltet their rise. I know eth went to $1400 yey! but its really just a small rise of maybe 50-70% in 6 months, where many altcoins went up 100x that like Raiblocks and many, many other ones. So if you stayed in ETH and BTC you actually LOST a lot, a HELL LOT of money. Shitcoins.

If you say bitcoin and ethereum itself as shin coins, then I don't know what would you say about other altcoins which were mostly termed as shin coins. It's true that transaction fee is high in bitcoin now, but when LN gets activated, it would get solved. Ethereum is the only altcoin next to bitcoin which performs well and is older coin.

ETH is very useful coin, so it will not dump but it will growth

I do not do research based on trash talk. Maybe if you put something valuable here, it may spark some interest but I will not waste my time just because somebody is shilling it.

ETH is not a shitcoin , it is good for investment and to hold it for a good long time

I don't think so, maybe some of the altcoins do not have any value.

I don't know anything about WTC so I wont bash it like you are trying to do with bitcoin and ethereum. I think that if you want to promote whatever WTC is (probably a coin, and looking to coinmarketcap is probably walton), you could just talk about it, and explain it's technology to us, and then we could dig dipper if we are interested. From you comments I don't think you know anything about bitcoin or ethereum, so it's hard for me to take your word about walton, because apparently you talk about things that you don't know anything about.

People keep talking about crypto coins like if they are done projects that are up and working and with no more developments being made. That's probably one of the "problems" of them being decentralized and open source. If they were a company product they wouldn't be out now, and people wouldn't be always complaining about it.

Bitcoin still has a long way to go in terms of development, and that is being taken care by an amazing community of developers that are currently doing a great job. If you don't want to use bitcoin, and can't see it's potencial just don't use it. If you take some time reading about it, and knowing what is being made in terms of future development, then you would probably change your mind.

''I know eth went to $1400 yey! but its really just a small rise of maybe 50-70% in 6 months''  WTF eth was around 300 6 months ago....lets say 450%

And if your definition of a shitcoin is a coin that does not go up for ever and ever you are just being ridiculous.

I was almost with you for a while...as much as I like eth its kind of outdated, imo new gen blockchain are coming, but you really are full of shit

In fact . Bitcoin and Enthereum play the most important role in this market. If ETH or BTC is lost then this market will be very difficult to develop at this time and according to the world trend Bitcoin and ETH will continue to increase in the same.

i know you are holding WTC and can't wait for its profit so you spouting nonsense criticizing bitcoin and eth. but bitcoin and eth have become more solid and more popular than your WTS. or if you just want to promote your coins just tell us what can in do, what is its purpose that it what created and don't criticize bitcoin and eth or other altcoins just to make your coin especial.

Sad but true how the current market is.

Bitcoins and ethereum is the top ranked cryptos but someone calling it as shitcoins,really funny ;D

I accept the transaction fee is high foe bitcoins but incase of ethereum it is still cheap and the transaction also faster.But these are not temporary issues this is happening due to more traffic in their blockchain network so miners need more priority fee to completed but this will be solved when the lightning network was implemented.

I don't think you're telling the truth here. Bitcoin has always been the best coin. And Ethereum has always been one of the best. I think these two are the fastest growing cryptocurrency available in the market.

Why do you think so?? I can't because i'm a fan of Bitcoin  :)

Degrading bitcoin and Ethereum with established and solid community and suddenly promote another coin is like beating yourself. It is unprofessional way of advertising and i hope you are not part of their team because i would never buy a coin that has an attitude like this.

As i checked WTC, it is a token under Ethereum Smart Contract. You know it is funny right? What i see is a bag holder full of shit waiting for the first victim to buy and dump his shit.

It's really funny btc and eth is shitcoins for you. These both are acting main role in cryptoworld. Bitcoin price was increased so they according to that keep the transaction fee.

Well, i think this not good to promoting ny give negative Comment for Cryptocurrency like Bitcoin or Ethereum. They have big influence in market. What WTC does??

Huge fees and slow downs on bt and ethereum network I think is a result of increasing traffic in their network for more and more transaction both selling and purchasing is done everyday so in my own point of view is normal. Bitcoin and eth both have got into huge value far from where their start sopo it won't be justifiable to call them scam shitcoins.

Calling something shitty when it's really demanded by everyone is just not acceptable. Bitcoin was created for a purpose, to give people privacy and control over their own money and ethereum was created for smart contracts so that a third party is not needed. Bitcoin  has a justified value and so does ethereum. Yes, accepted there are some bad projects or scam running under ethereum but there are some great projects too. Like EOS, XENON, TRONIX, SALT and many more. And bitcoins high price is due to its high demand. And if your WTS tokens are demanded then people would buy them too, unless they don't turn out to be a "shitty" scam.

lol.this is funny.why did you say bitcoin and ethereum are shitcoin?first bitckin is the one big value in the crypto currency.and also the ethereum will rise this january.any proof that bitcoin and ethereum is shitcoin?

Maybe Bitcoin just now. But it will be better using lighting network and atomic swap technologies in near future. But Ethereum is fine i think. It has pretty good speed, low transaction fees, strong network affect and smart contracts.

Bitcoin have high fees and risks now , but what will be with any other coin on it's place ? Of course devs of every new shit-token promising a fantastic transaction speed and zero fees and it works well with 1000 transactions per day  ;D bitcoin was also fast and cheap 3-4 years ago , but now it have a lot of users and we can see btc is not perfect . In addition bitcoin attacked by BCH scammers and other persons who are materially interested in bitcoin dumping .

WTC is not really a coin that anyone should hold. There is a lot more people that have Eth, who even has any WTC?

What are everyones thoughts on ETH crashing? Its basically a horrible concept that only those who got in early get crazily rich and way too much power and even the ETH founders realized this.

I already say it.... WTC is a real business. They have 100+ patents. Real partnerships with industry leaders.

Everyone can copy ETH and BTC thats no value. Such a company is worth very few money in real world.

However I would like something totally new. Where everyone can be rich. Not just people who were lucky to buy day1

i mainly base it on everyone getting into them now... All of them will either lose a lot of their money.. or have very very low returns.....

Because the market caps are so high already. Only those who got in early get rich. For people going in cryptos its much smarter to go in coins with a very low market cap. You could say its stupid to go in btc/eth now. Thats why they are shitcoins. Only good for those who were LUCKY (its not even skill) to get in early.

What are you saying about haha thats very funny.Look how great the price and look how many people help by bitcoin and ethereum.The very successful and the top altcoins im very proud of that two and one thing i can say be proud because you find bitcoin and ethereum

I feel something you bought a bitcoin when is almost reaching 20,000 USD from the peak and suddenly go down quickly. You can't blame those coins if you have some losses, you must need to accept what happened and forget about it.

The only problem right now is the high transaction fee and slow confirmation for both eth and btc. Hopefully this kind of problem will be resolved as soon as possible.

If Bitcoin/Ethereum are shitcoins, what are the other thousands of coins/tokens?!?

Hi everyone, check out these two sleeping ICO giants: Cointed and Giftz. You may check them, both are great but essentially different. Cointed for example is a working business with some solid partners, and already working business behind it, while Giftz is a new ICO which has an awesome potential backed by a solid team behind it.

Good point. Bitcoin will remain the strong leader, ethereum will stay in top 5 during this year. Eth is a reliable investment.

Well, any Altcoins except Bitcoin and Ethereum are shit coins as what you're holding right now are shit coins as well.
Why don't you just hold and wait instead of blaming the market flow that made investors and traders rich quick and someday you'll be also.

Probably he has no Bitcoin and Ethereum that's why he tagged these two giant coins as shit coins.
He's blaming he had nothing until now. Well, maybe he's just a troll or bogus just to make shit statement without thinking clearly.

I don't agree with any of these ideas. Bitcoin and Ethereum are the father of all altcoins.
Without Bitcoin and Ethereum, there is no crypto currency world.

I have a lot of bitcoin and I always use bitcoin to store my profits.. Like when I made x30 on verge, tron and others.. I store it all in bitcoin...
But its dead in bitcoin... Bitcoin made x3 in half a year.. Some of my altcoins made x20 in 2 weeks. All make profit and more than just x3...

Bitcoin and ETH were good coins when you got in early. Now they are shitcoins and people will only lose their money.

I made a lot of money by going against the market. A lot of money. More than I ever had. I have crypto everything to thank for. But thats because I did not stay just in Bitcoin or ETH. If I stayed in Bitcoin or ETH I would have lost 100s of thousands of $ because they almost dont move anymore. I mean people party that ETH went up 70% in 6 months but do they realize many coins in that time went up *70?

You do know the difference between *70 and 70% ?

At some point there is so many investors in a coin, the price is so high... that there probably would have to be millions of people make millions with it.. before late investors could ever make a profit. Anyone you know who got rich with crypto, was there even one guy who got in late in expensive coins? Nope.

Look how proud you can be if you bought ETH at $0.25

Do you really think its smart to buy it now at $1000? Its so high already, it can almost not double anymore. The risk/Reward ratio is just so BAD in eth now. If theres a crash you will lose 80%.

If you got in at $0.25 with ETH sure you dont care for bubble because you are still rich. But buying now? Even if ETH goes to $10k which it wont, thats very small profits compared to promising ,NEW projects that are still cheap.

No thanks. Maybe the next Neo, next ETH, next Bitcoin at $0.25? That I would like to buy together with all of you.

Thats their business thats they do for a living and you dont even know how you can construct that piece from scratch. They have their strategies to put use not like you complaining while youre still a newbie good luck on that youre the stupid one

but if true eth coins and bitcoins will go crazy maybe I should go crazy because the coins that come will more the better I think for which coins will I choose

Yeah you will just have to watch the markets, the discussion boards, maybe even the ICOs to get in on the NEXT eth/bitcoin/neo/ripple and buy it CHEAP, thats the ONLY way. All those people going into ETH, bitcoin now will only LOSE because they are too LATE.

For me ETH and BTC are valued first of all because its technology and faith that they gave to people. Telling the truth dollar is very bubbled too, we all know about it but this is not the reason to abstain it.

This guy is out of his mind, he doesn't even know what is a true shitcoin. Think clearly you can't even trade without the use Bitcoin and Ethereum. These two coins are the superstars in the crypto. They are the beggining of all this ideas without them even this forum would never be exists. They are the reason why virtual currency is known in all parts of the world and its not right you call it a shit. Even also you have benefits with it.

I dont know why you said this about eth and btc...maby you locking for a perfect coin without any negative think but this is impossible

why isn't anyone starting shitcoins, i mean crypto named "shitcoin" it's catchy and word is known, and according to ts they sell like crazy aaand thanks google https://www.shitcoin.io/ idea is taken as always

Right then, why does all the discussion in altcoin section end up with these kinds of words like "Shitcoin" "scam" and all? Bitcoin is not an altcoin first of all, and Ethereum may have been a shitcoin but has long ago moved beyond that.

I do agree that the coin OP is shilling is on the verge of being a shitcoin, but yes,,, hard to feel any sympathy for that kind of post. Does anyone really actually believe BTC and ETH are dead? I would like to meet such people after 5 years.

that is not right to say both bitcoin and ethereum are shit coins, bitcoin can be slow or high transactions fee but its value and the profit we can earn is very huge, also ethreum is useful because rightnow there are many altcoins on the market based on ethereum platform, so as long as ethreum is used by ICOs it is still very useful in crypto market.

if anyone says bitcoin and etherum is shitcoin it is they who have never got great results from bitcoin or eth. because they think it's just imagination and will never happen. but the facts mention if a lot of people are earning big money from selling and trading coins like bitcoin and eth.

Am finding this impossible to believe because how did the two cryptocurrencies find themselves at the top of all other coins you see not to be shitcoins ::) and the community might not agree with this just as the value speaks for its self...

a perfect coin won't exist without some weakness because it is these same weaknesses that make anything to be almost perfect

Firstly, Bitcoin and Ethereum are not shitcoin. And you were talking about crash simply because of transaction delay. This delay are temporal bitcoin scalling issue will soon be address and there is nothing legit about wtc from shit poster!

BTC and ETH are both too slow to be able to be the future.

That's pretty hilarious.

OP comes on shilling a, even by crypto standards, a shitcoin and calling BTC & Eth 'shitcoins'.

I thought I had truly seen the depths on BTC but I was wrong. OP thank you Sir, for that!

You think they are set in stone and have no developers or roadmap?

You have to watch your words and for your information. They are the most and highest value of coins in the industry right now, in short they are the best

I don't think they would have their value now if they are considered shot coins by many. Yes we can see that Bitcoin right now has high transaction fees and paying with it is not appealing as it is expensive but do we really need Bitcoin as a mode of payment right now? Because even if it does we will still prefer other means to pay as Bitcoin is considered as an asset or way to grow our money using it as some kind of money will only lessen your asset.

It's very unfair to call them shitcoins, right now (bitcoin especially) they're not great but that's to due with the large increase in volume across the whole of cryptos, they're struggling as a consequence to keep up. With the updates coming this year for both things can improve a lot. But I don't think anyone is expecting *50 for them, *2 even would be good.

I think this issues will be corrected with future upgrades. Lot of users are not happy with their speed so something must be made about it.

While both ETH and BTC have current scaling problems they can be fixed with future forks. These both are acting main role in cryptoworld.

Problems with commissions can be resolved. The fact that they have arisen does not mean that these coins are bad, on the contrary it indicates a high demand for them.

This is just mere progandas without some solid facts backing it up of course with large numbers of users in bitcoin the confirmation of transaction will surely slowdown. Has any decentralized altcoin achieve this kind of volume of users or even it's marketcap?
This is one if the disadvantage at being on the top but soon an update to the protocol will be implemented.

Most millenials wont know. But when tech/internet bubble started it was myspace, yahoo, altavista, ebay that were HUGE.. everyone thought they were the best. Now nobody remembers them as theres Google, Facebook, Amazon. I think Bitcoin and ETH might face the same fate :( In any case.. its true that anyone investing in ETH or BTC now wont make any money. Only those who were LUCKY to get in early (its not even skill) make the money. Like in a pyramid scheme.

Its normal to hear such things about BTC but not surely for ETH. What I think of most if that either you are a blind supporter of this WTC or from the core team itself. but whatever you are, you are underestimating ETH at once. ETH is the coin which has brought in crypto accessible to every layman. It has a lot of potential to grow. Any shitcoin scams ICO over its blockchain don't really affect its price in any way. While WTC is yet another shitcoin I think.

Of course. I think now that there is a discourse about it, I think maybe we can see the implementation soon

I don't think in such a way. But the ETH and the BTC have reached a level where these processes are inevitable. For example on the ETH a lot of dark ICO, but it's not avoidable because of such wild popularity of a coin, and 100 % reliability can not be secured.

All coins are shitcoins until they make you a millionaire  ::)

Why did they call it shitcoin? if those coins can give you an income, I guess you are losing your mind. Bitcoin and Ethereum have a good foundation in crypto currency community, so they can't doubt if they make a high amount of investment to those coins. Even what can you no one can believe you, because most of them are work hard to earn tons of coins.

Shaming to these so called shitcoins doesnt justify your claim,your stupidity just gone to the next level,WTC 50B marketcap? you must be dreaming try to wake up mate :-X

bitcoin is the best because of the security of its blockchain, the amount of money that should be spend to hack it is just enourmous

You just get unlucky with those coins and gets scammed but ut doesn't mean that they are now a shitcoins. They are the two of the most successful coins un the whole world and they will not be labeled that thing if they are just another shitcoins and they will not reach that price if they are just a shitcoins. They have gave a lot of people a money especially bitcoins a lot of people make them a millionaire. Ethereum is rising today from their priice before so those who invest them before are gaining money.

Hate to pour oil into the fire... But the crash today just again backs up my point. Especially for ETH. I mean Bitcoin is down -13% ok but ETH even is down over 20%... So like every time... There still is no value in ETH on its own. People dont trust ETH so whenver Bitcoin falls, ETH crashes even harder.

NEO did stand strong for a while but now its also down but only 8%. So the market trusts Neo more already than ETH.

I think the only people suggesting "buy ETH!!" are those who hold ETH and want it to rise. there seems like ZERO real reasons to buy ETH now.

Bitcoin is a shitcoin, but why ethereum? Ethereum is one of the most important platform in cryptoworld! Without it most project wouldn't exist!

I categorically disagree with your statement about the fact that bitcoin and etherium is completely shit, because only recently bitcoin costs $ 20,000. If you suddenly forget about the etherium, I have never seen such stability as he had before.

Bitcoin have the most powerfull hash in the world and this is only start now? beta version of money in the world. Who belive in cash printing machine lets go buy your dont mining "wery good" coins from its creators xD they w8 you!

I think you are very unfair to these coins. This is a promising technology of the future and you simply not able to understand this....

It's just that when most new people come in on crypto then most likely the first 2 coins they will know are Bitcoin and Ethereum. It's just how most people think. They are the hottest in town just like a fad that most people will follow.

But Bitcoin and Ethereum are being fixed, right? However, Ethereum is faster so it should be 1st rather than Ethereum.

Well, bitcoin and ethereum can have problems, due mainly to their suddenly success, but to call them shitcoins seems to me very inappropriate.

The total capitalization of digital money at the beginning of 2018 will reach a record $ 100 billion mark, while at the beginning of 2017 the amount was only 15 billion.

I think that reasons of your saying are partly justified, I guess that Bitcoin and Ethereum will continue as keeping up with new conditions by following the change. Only I would like to say it's unfair to say shit coin to Bitcoin and Ethereum, in my opinion.

I don't think that Bitcoins and Ethereum is a shitcoin because they are valuable coins for me. You can invest here without paying taxes and then you have a chance to earn good profit from it if you go for long term investments. Yes there are some barriers like slowing down and transaction fee but then also i will support them.

Thats a good point. Also Bitcoin was the first, is good for money storage and gets used to buy altcoins so maybe its not that much of a shitcoin and I am wrong. But the transfer fees and delays are pretty bad right now.


There is a huge problem here that people dont see. At some point there will be a peak. It cant just get always more and more. And people who hold huge amounts of millions or even billions, they probably would not invest a lot in cryptos because they are mostly about securing their assets not betting them.

You can see ETH is already worth 10% of Apple. So if someone invests in ETH now what do you think he can get as return? Some people say 800%. Thats ridiculous. Because the ETH would be worth more than apple. But everyone can copy ETH. If people could copy iphones then Apple would never be worth 1 trillion.

Plus there is always new projects coming, like NEO is pretty good and probably still has good potential. Or even something extremely cheap as Metaverse which is just at $100mil. I mean if you go in crypto, dont you want ther same profits as the EARLY bitcoin and the EARLY eth investors? You can only get this by going in CHEAP projects and hoping they grow.Nobody knew bitcoin would get this big, but people trusted it anyways and got rewarded. Same might happen to Metaverse or other alternatives. Same actually happen to ETH (now too big) and Neo (still some room to grow).

Are you trying to pick a fight or something? It seems like you really want to put value under your altcoins by discouraging people not to buy eth and btc. Anyways you don't get to dictate what the market demands.

Your conclusions make sure you are losing money when investing in these two cryptos. Now when the market price is falling, what you need to do is to continue to hold and invest in those 2 coins instead of having such anger attitude :))

I think both Bitcoins and ETH served you well for years ( based on how long you spend here based on your rank ), and yet you have that thick of a skin saying bitcoins and eth are scam and shitcoins ?
Do have more proof next time.
Grieving is okay about our present problem but not by spreading FUD and trash talking about the most used coins today. All of us are experiencing the same problem.

So much hate for this dude. Another sour loser in Bitcoin and Eth. Just remember they are the two titans in cryptoworld, they change the rule of games in financial world. How about you, whats your contribution in this planet Earth.

I think that the person who thinks so does not know Bitcoin and Ethereum at all, because these coins are the main coins of our crypto world. If not for these projects, then others like Ripple or other shit coins, do you think they are better?

It could get worse then it really happened.
Okay someone said the ETH split is one successful example.
But this is the bitcoin we are talking about and the more valuable each day.
Well, what can happen? Could there be a great fall in prices or will this result in an increase (which I now doubt).
They all want number 1 because of the money in it.

Yes ! I think is it so really funny if bitcoin and ethereum are shitcoins so what will be the future of cryptocurrencies if the these two are shitcoins ?

Those coins you mentioned are the 2 best coins in cryptocurrency. You should know that this coins already gain too much reputation and not easily overcome by any other coins.Personally, those shitcoins are the new project (but not all) that pops out and want to sell their coins, run away with the peoples money afterwards.

Bitcoin and ether can not be shitcoin compare to the shirty coin you are introducing to us. What is the history and capabilities of your shitty coin of yours?

Bitcoin and ETH are not shitcoin , btc and ETH are most important compare to the others coins.

That is interesting, the OP has a different definition of shitcoin, and looks different from common investors, I think you have a big chance to earn much money or you just miss some big chance.

Another FUD and a promotion. Can you please give your definition of shitcoin. I am sure you are also holding both eth and bitcoin on your portfolio. ;D Everyone is aware of it, and no coin is perfect.

we have to realized that most of this cryptocurrency are decentralized system & have a volatily chart. so we cant say that all of this happen in the market are scam and you call it shitcoin.
anyway good luck to your WTC

i think this is not correct because each technology is not complete and after some times needs to development. BTC has high value for transfer this is correct but we have lighting network and the developers try to decrease the transaction fees. also about ETH the team try to launch POS network. I think we will see ETH and BTC on the moon this year

When I read the title of this thread, I was interested in knowing the reasons and justifications for expressing such an aggressive idea. However, it seems to me that the arguments are too poor to defend the idea. In any case, if these big cryptos deserve to be called "shitcoins", I do not know what title could deserve all the others, which in one way or another are descendants of these.

Lol. Jokes on you dear. Bitcoin and Ethereum are not shitcoins, and they have proven this overtime. The fact that they are having some challenges now, and not really going as majority of the public wants does not mean that they are shitty coins. It is sad to see people lose faith just like that cos a little time of challenge. Do better.

Congratulations for your assessment for now and I will continue to pay attention to you.
It's true that Bitcoin can be worth 100,000 USD because who knows the price can't be guessed.

when Bitcoin is worth 0.5 USD nobody cares about it.

I think bitcoin and ethereum is not shitcoin, I'm sure this is just an expression of your disappointment at getting a loss from bitcoin and being stuck at a very expensive price so you say harshly to bitcoin and ethereum.

Really funny how this low market and unfavorable conditions have made people to think so low of the two most outstanding crypto coins of all time. It is funny, but at the same time sad to watch. Ethereum and bitcoin are not shitcoins. Saying that these two are shitcoins for me, means that the entire crypto market is shitty