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Hi there,

I'm looking for a job or assignment that pays in bitcoins.

I've got excellent administrative skills, customer relations experience, project management, sales, even HR. I'm used to talking to CEO's of all levels. Oh and I'm fairly tech savvy too, albeit my focus is not coding per se.

Kind regards

Corner

haha that would be interesting to make money and getting paid via bitcoin.  Problem is how would you spend it.  I doubt your landlord would accept electronic currency.

You're underestimating the power of cryptocurrencies. This is a freaking powder keg and probably the fastest growing forum and phenomena in computing history. It's going to have massive impact.

 More than facebook, myspace and a hundred other things? Arent there less than **,000 miners? No-one I know has ever heard about it, I would be grateful if you could you explain this further (preferrably including figures) as I would find it very interesting

Thats pretty game.  Probably your best bet is starting your own company and accepting only BitCoins.  Dont know if any employers are going to be this forward thinking.

Oh ok. Perhaps it's just a feeling I have. I cannot see how anyone is going to be able to stop this. You know, for me the future is so real that I sometimes mix it up with the present.

Noob.

Seriously, though, no it's not. It's a big, fast moving thing. There's been big, fast moving things. There will be big, fast moving things tomorrow. The world will not suddenly wake up one day and realise it's missing out on Bitcoin, this will be a long, hard fight to get Bitcoin into general acceptance. Right now, it's more or less seen as a lunatic fringe somewhere between gold bugs and L$ traders.

One idea off the top of my head: Second hacking of Mt. Gox causes massive loss of confidence in Bitcoin, general sell-off. Last few holdouts cling to currency in belief it will recover, but essentially lose their investment. Becomes a curious footnote in history along with Virtual Boy.

Another: Take-up by retailers too slow, people get fed up holding on to their Bitcoins waiting for them to be more valuable, mass sell-off.

A third: Fundamental weakness found in entropic source used for RSA key generation in the default client, private keys turn out to be discoverable in useful time, entire system crumbles.

I can probably come up with more.

Yeah, but the thing is once you've opened the door to cryptocurrencies they won't die. It's open source so they will keep evolving now. You've seen yourself the enthusiasm bitcoins have sparked. That enthusiasm is an enormous motivator for open source coders to excel in developing the code. Mt. Gox is just a trading outpost, strictly speaking it's not even required - you can just meet up with someone and trade cash for bitcoins.

It's a self-developing system now and the natural next step in the evolution of the internet. This time it's real.

You'd need 12.5 Ghash/sec to pay someone 1 Bitcoin per hour, for an 8 hour day... and that's at the current difficulty as well as exchange rate.

Also, you're not counting hardware investment, and electricty requirements to get to that 12.5 GHash/sec... that's almost 42 5830's if you were wondering...

I actually think the world is sort of waking up and realizing it's missing out on Bitcoins right now, it's like an earthquake. You cannot be enthusiastic enough about this thing. Scepticism is natural but in this case I make an exception - quit your day jobs fellas. This is the biggest thing not only in my lifetime but perhaps in the history of mankind. No longer will the state control and terrorize its citizens.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WilU8m3RIWg/TfDGIfRYHsI/AAAAAAAAJRo/syF6yZ6eOdg/s320/Bitcoin+Graph+1.jpg

Most of that spike happened because of the media coverage and everyone finding out how much profit there was. Then you had just a huge influx of people dog piling in thinking they'd make a ton of money. Now that the difficulty is up to the point where it's making people second guess whether to stay in the game or buy more hardware, I'd say from here on will be a good indication of whether or not bitcoins will thrive.

Well there are heaps of small businesses starting up around the bitcoin currency. Businesses need admins and here I am. Mining is just one part of the coin, pun intended : )

They will thrive dude. Everyone needs a change of system, even parts of the established banking system are looking at this now.

Many of us have sensed that the system we live in is corrupt but it's been difficult to do anything about it. The core problem is taxation. Taxation is theft and as every transaction is taxed, we loose money in each and every transaction.

You cannot and should not build a distribution system of stolen goods. Unfortunately that's what the politicians have been trying to do for so long. Distributing stolen goods (money taken from the people through taxation) only benefits parts of society and only temporarily. The net effect is always negative since the cash were stolen in the first place.

We need to replace this system, which essentially builds on theft and has its roots in feudalism and tyranny with something new. BTC is that very new, shiny thing that will rock our world.

Just sell some to pay the usual bills, buy whatever you can with bitcoins and save the rest.

Actually I wouldn't think twice if my boss would give me the choice, euro's or bitcoins.

 I'm not sure I follow. We will always need taxation, unless you can provide alternate means to maintain roads, schools and... everything. Of course corruption exists, and tax could be lower if people were not people, but are you suggesting no taxes?

 Whats your magical alternative suggestion?, if Iv read your right

There you have it : ) Someone who catches my drift. There's sick money to be made here and a new world to be built. Let's start anew.

Ahahaha...virtual boy...

So roadways, public utilities, police, fire service, military...essentially ALL infrastructure should all just materialize out of thin air...brilliant. We need to get you to chair the economics department at Harvard.




Seriously dude, you are retarded. No one likes taxes, but to be naive and ignorant enough not to understand their necessity makes me think you are 13 and in your parents' basement.

No we don't. We have been born into a corrupt system so we don't see the obvious elephant in the room. The politicians argument is, just like yours, that we need taxes to sustain this and that, to provide welfare for poor people etc. But poor people are often poor because of taxation. Strong and healthy people tend to find good jobs and they make enough money not to be bothered by taxation. If you have reached or exceed the average US salary of 50000 USD you're fairly well off and the system benefits you. You have breached the surface so to speak.

However, for the weak, sick and feeble minded the situation is different. They may not have the power to reach the surface and will thus be held back perpetually by an ever increasing tax rate.

You do realize than when the first settlers colonized the West, the taxation rates were negligible? We had all this land to ourselves and we screwed it. Little by little, year by year, we let the politicians raise the taxes. Had we kept on this way for much longer we would no longer be the land of the brave and the free but just another Europe or China.

Fortunately, Bitcoins were invented before we reached that level of taxation. We can now build a new parallel system which will eventually buy out the old one, hopefully in a relatively peaceful transition, just like the first 15 years since internet got big have been characterized by a remarkably smooth transition.

Yes, we need roads, we need fire fighters and some of that stuff. However, it should all be financed privately. Now, thus far the private sector has been too weakened (because of extortionate taxation) to mantle the responsibility for the infrastructure but with the advent of the BTC we will eventually see private roads, private fire fighting teams and so on only.

Because it lays in man's faith to become truly individual and only when we are truly individual are we able to fully cooperate with others.

I do not accept your tone and language and I have reported you to the moderators.

So you propose making the 'gap' between the haves and the have-nots into a wall. No ambulance is coming to help you...because you are poor. Your house is burning to the ground...because you're poor. Your children will be doomed to a life of abject squalor because you are so busy scraping and stealing to feed them that you have no time to educate them, that is, if they don't die of pertussis or rubella, because there is no vaccination program or standards without taxes.

Where is that panic button?

Back, was getting popcorn, want some?

Bottom-right, "Report to moderators"

I meant that in a more metaphorical, "Do the mods actually care, and was what I said actually offensive?" way. I have said much worse on many a forum. In my humble opinion, spewing ignorant garbage about taxation being theft and privatizing all public works is more damaging to the Bitcoin society than me calling someone retarded...but hey, to each his own; Keep your tinfoil hat on straight, soldier.

I advocate a peaceful transition from the current system to a system based on cryptocurrencies rather than cash transactions.

We have allowed ourselves to become dependent on the political system and thus on evil itself. Obviously, if we would lower the tax rate overnight, there would be massive negative consequences. Hence, that's not the way to go about it. But if every individual increasingly starts trading in BTC rather than USD, we will slowly be able to reach new ground. Bit by bit, bitcoin by bitcoin we will exchange an involuntary system for a voluntary one.

Eventually, the BTC system will be valued so highly, work so efficiently and be worth so much that it will not be much of an effort to buy out the public infrastructure. There is in fact nothing stopping multinational corporations from maintaining infrastructure, they have shown in the past that they can administer very complex systems, i. e. there is nothing that the public sector can do that the private sector cannot, rather the contrary.

I resent your condescending, ignorant reply and all that goes with it. Begone, troll, off you go to another forum. The tinfoil hat is yours and yours alone.

ok I'm not totally behind Corner his idea to privately finance everything, would be a little bit a big hassle, if everybody needs to maintain his own little piece of road before his house and I think it would be nice to get it in concrete and my neigbour thinks dirt is much better and his neighbour would like to use bricks, nah nice roads we would have.

Taxes are necessary, but I should have the choice where my money goes to, at this point my money goes to things like various beliefs I don't support, people who don't want to work (I don't care to give you like 3 months wage if you are unemployed but don't tell me you can't find a job within 15years), etc. and the things I find important like science and good roads, just don't get enough funds. So yeah at the moment I drive over the border Holland-Belgium and remember the roads I've driven and the thing my car bumps over at that moment I got a little bit the feeling I was robbed. I give away 50% of my wage for good roads and what do I get? An unemployed driving the same car as me flashing his lights because he got to be in time at the moskee, church,... whatever meetingplace comes into your mind to tell each other fairytales. No, at the moment I fill in my tax form I want to choose where the money will be used for. Everybody can just fill in where the money goes to and those funds should be used for what you filled in. If you want to give it to the firedepartment so it will be, if I want to give it to medical healthcare so it will be, that's in my opinion the only way you can get a fair taxsystem.

You could even go further and let the people vote on witch company can do the job, witch building constructor to choose, witch hospitals, witch firedepartments, and so on
But some people saying, here with your money and we will take care of it, is not the way to do it imho.

You should bone-up on some evolutionary biology. Society isn't exactly something that humans came up with...but I am glad that you have single-handedly outsmarted 11 billion years of molecular evolution and nigh-on seven billion people. Keep shouting troll every time someone disagrees...eventually, the worlds governments will dissolve and we will all roll around in the utopian grass of your mind's eye.

You do have a say where your taxes go, and who gets awarded those lucrative contracts...ever been to a city council meeting? I assume that a progressive European society has some equivalent...

Letting people 'choose where their money is spent' is ridiculous. Half of the world is of average or below-average intelligence. You trust them to invest in more than short sited thrill seeking? I hope you like your waterparks...your utopia will be filled with them.

 I can agree with money going to the intentionally unemployed, and some areas not getting enough funding (and some too much) being wrong... but to think every citizen has the capacity/knowledge/time to distribute funds so infrastructure and society works fluently is very optimistic to put it politely. Things would be in chaos in a month.

You all are looking at this wrong!!! Totally wrong...

Taxes we will have, this is a fact of life... sorry no way around paying for public services that we all need that we rarely use... metaphorically speaking.

But Taxes disappear in to a black hole projects, slush funds, pork barrel projects, SSI, medicare, what-have-you...

Unlike regular USD...  Bitcoin, EVERY TRANSACTION is public and traceable...

Think about this now. Imagine if every dollar you pay in income tax, sales tax, property tax, inheritance tax, etc. were publicly available. You knew weather your money went to pay someone's SSI check, or when to pay for a new weapon, tank, or airplane.

Look at Silk Road. Not so transparent, and that is set up by drug addicts.

Imagine the potential for someone with unlimited funds and unlimited intelligence to obfuscate the source and path of Bitcoin.

Actually, no we don't have city council meetings or some equivalent over here ;)

And the choice if your money goes to believe or not is actually something a lot of people want here and is only a matter of time before we will get that 1 choice on our taxform. I don't see why more options would form a problem, and I think you are smart enough to understand that waterparks don't need to be on the list of choices. But hey on the other hand, a country that looks like one big giant waterpark should drive lots of tourists bringing in lots of money don't you think  :D ;)

No, I still believe in choices and I think most people are smart enough to make the right decision if you give them the right choices or at least the majority of people. Most people in the world also think that a country without a government for 1 year and 1 month would fall into total anarchy, plundering, murdering, raping,a total financial crisis, etc *looks through the window* yep, my car is still there with the gps and radio still in it and it still has 4 rims to stand on. Everything just goes like it always did, economical it doesn't really hurt us, roads are as bad as they used to be and crimes are the same like they always where and everybody just does his job like he always did. Some foreign investors are a little bit worried but looks like they are not that worried to not invest or run away like hell. So yes I have enough faith in the people here that they also can make the right choices, could it work everywhere and immediately? No, Rome wasn't build in a day and a taxsystem like this needs to be worked out step by step. People got to get used to it, and one choice at a time.

And yes I am a dreamer, and some things I think may seem totally irrational, but without dreamers a lot of good inventions/ideas wouldn't exist.

Someone protests against war, and the next day he sees they used his taxmoney to buy one big shiny tank.  :D

I am only going to bring up one counterpoint: Somalia. True lack of government does, in fact, lead to chaos. You are comparing a western 'shutdown' of non-essential services to true pandemonium.

We don't need taxes, that's just how it is. It is unfortunate that we have become so dependent on a corrupt system, but BTC will allow for a new system to grow that will be a 1000% more efficient and peaceful.

I didn't single-handedly outsmart the system - the bitcoin and open source community did.

I was calling you a troll because you insulted me and posted spiteful comments. Are you one of those sad people that only feel big when they flame on the internet? Dude, that’s so year 2000. Grow up and stop flaming and provoking.

And yes, the governments will actually dissolve and/or be replaced by a sort of cloud society.

No, that's where you're wrong. The open source community has shown the power of decentralized networking solutions when it comes to decision making.

No, there will be no involuntary taxes in the future. Possibly voluntary ones but they might be known under a different name.

I agree with you. In terms of the absence of governments I just say good riddance. We don't need them and if we do, there's a workaround which spells cryptocurrencies. You're not just a dreamer, you've seen the broader picture.

The problem with Somalia is not the absence of a government but the absence of a well developed private sector.

What a derail this has turned out to be. We went from jobs paying in bitcoins, to shiny tanks and Somalia.  :D

Ha : ) Yeah. I should try to smoothly get back to the original topic. Anyone out there need admin/hr/b2b sales/project management services?

Huh? The 'private sector' controls over 90% of the country...the government only holds a small portion of the capital.

I think you should start a new thread for your employment. Too much anti-tax/anti-government here...tends to scare off legitimate businessmen. And for the second time on this forum, I'm sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther party.

Apology accepted. Insults provoke, provocations cause repercussions and so on ad infinitum, ad nauseum so flaming online is rarely a good idea.

What I meant is there's no business sector in Somalia. There are no shopping malls, no internet cafés, no supermarkets, no car sales companies, no restaurants, no plumbers, no mining companies, no chimney sweepers, no helicopter rental firms, nothing at all. There are millions of poor and unemployed people, is all. That's the real problem, not the absence of a government.

I am not a black panther party member and I may not be who you think I am. I am not a long haired hippy type, I'm not a rebel and I'm not an outsider. I am in fact a business man with contacts in high places and I endorse this bitcoin thing fully. And so should you. A surprisingly high number of CEO's resent the idea of the national state.

A lapse in confidence won't stop bitcoin; It's not a fad, it's a new paradigm. Your argument would be comparable to saying that the automobile would never take off because there was some bad press about the Ford Model T being involved in an accident raising safety concerns.

It's value may go down to $1, but it will go back up again for the same reason it's at $15 now; it's a valuable tool which frees us from a parasitic system and people desperately want to be free. This is the fundamental driver and it hasn't gone away. If all that was driving bitcoin up until now was a "spike in confidence" then sure, it would be as useless as Virtual Boy.

You're treating bitcoin as if it was a fad, it's much more than that. I think that Corner intuitively understands this when he says "I cannot see how anyone is going to be able to stop this.", but could articulate it.

If there was such a weakness in RSA, we would have bigger problems. Sure, if RSA was compromised or the internet was destroyed or there was a new world war then yeah, bitcoin would have trouble.

Are you the guy running around and talking about virtual boy everywhere? Cause I'm just saying, Mario Tennis was bomb...

I hadn't meant a weakness in RSA, but in the implementation of RSA. The most obvious one being a weakness in the random number generator (entropy source), for example http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-0166