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Title: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: candoo on August 18, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
Let me quote from the Monarch Website:

"Institutional Pricing:  If you would like to purchase 50 or more cards, please contact Dave McClain for institutional pricing: 913-710-4865"


Well, Instead of calling Dave, I sent him a Email.

ME
Quote
Dear Dave,

I would love to see your quote for 77 units of the monarch BPU 600 c

Thanks in advance


Daves reply:
Quote
Christian,

There are no special pricing or quantity discounts. The price on the website is the same for 1 or 77.


--
With appreciation,

Dave
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
Account Manager
800-809-6463 (MINE) Ext. 101


my reply:
Quote
What the fuck, seriously?

Let me quote the butterflylabs website:

"Institutional Pricing:  If you would like to purchase 50 or more cards, please contact Dave McClain for institutional pricing: 913-710-4865"


and finally dave:
Quote
My sincerest apologies. What time can we talk this week?



How stupid is that company? hilarious!


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: mmitech on August 18, 2013, 07:28:22 PM
this means only one thing, that everyone at BFL is working his own way and living in his own world, no team work no organization no communication....  if they are not organized about the simplest things, how do you expect that they will fulfill a production plan  hahahahahaahah


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: SirWizz on August 18, 2013, 07:29:33 PM
this means only one thing, that everyone at BFL is working his own way and living in his own world, no team work no organization no communication....  if they are not organized about the simplest things, how do you expect that they will fulfill a production plan  hahahahahaahah

I don't think anyone sound of mind expects them to given their track record...


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: k9quaint on August 18, 2013, 07:31:16 PM
If the bosses at BFL actually told their employees what was happening, they would run the risk of their own employees reporting them to the authorities.
I am sure the rank and file @ BFL have no idea what is actually going on.


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: glendall on August 18, 2013, 08:44:24 PM
Unfortunately, a big part of the problem is that a lot of potential BFL customers never see this forum. They never read up on BFL's actual history and shenanigans.

Some potential customer might of just heard of Bitcoin for the first time yesterday. They then google around for a few minutes, see BFL ads somewhere as they have a strong online presence, and place an order, all expecting BFL's claims to be accurate, not a bunch of lies. 


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: trichome on August 18, 2013, 08:47:12 PM
Unfortunately, a big part of the problem is that a lot of potential BFL customers never see this forum. They never read up on BFL's actual history and shenanigans.

Some potential customer might of just heard of Bitcoin for the first time yesterday. They then google around for a few minutes, see BFL ads somewhere as they have a strong online presence, and place an order, all expecting BFL's claims to be accurate, not a bunch of lies.  

I was typing just this type of post, yea it is sorry i think they see some of those old articles from gizmodo or ars or whatever of a working jalapeno making 800 dollars worth of btc......in Jan.  And they think omg get rich quick.  I think they brain just doesn't finish the saying get rich quick scheme.

It is sad but common sense is becoming a rare trait.  Being the owner of a Bicycle shop and dealing in high end bikes but at the same time repairing junk from walmart and department stores its astonishing some of the things that come out of peoples mouths.  "Can you make my 100 dollar POS walmart bike work?...."No not really junk works like junk". 


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: mufa23 on August 18, 2013, 08:51:25 PM
Completely unprofessional, and way out of line on your part, OP.


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: millsdmb on August 18, 2013, 08:52:40 PM
Unfortunately, a big part of the problem is that a lot of potential BFL customers never see this forum. They never read up on BFL's actual history and shenanigans.

Some potential customer might of just heard of Bitcoin for the first time yesterday. They then google around for a few minutes, see BFL ads somewhere as they have a strong online presence, and place an order, all expecting BFL's claims to be accurate, not a bunch of lies.  

I was typing just this type of post, yea it is sorry i think they see some of those old articles from gizmodo or ars or whatever of a working jalapeno making 800 dollars worth of btc......in Jan.  And they think omg get rich quick.  I think they brain just doesn't finish the saying get rich quick scheme.

It is sad but common sense is becoming a rare trait.  Being the owner of a Bicycle shop and dealing in high end bikes but at the same time repairing junk from walmart and department stores its astonishing some of the things that come out of peoples mouths.  "Can you make my 100 dollar POS walmart bike work?...."No not really junk works like junk". 


google "butterfly labs monarch". my hitler video is #3 or #4, as well as numerous other informative links.


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: erk on August 18, 2013, 08:54:24 PM
Unfortunately, a big part of the problem is that a lot of potential BFL customers never see this forum. They never read up on BFL's actual history and shenanigans.

Some potential customer might of just heard of Bitcoin for the first time yesterday. They then google around for a few minutes, see BFL ads somewhere as they have a strong online presence, and place an order, all expecting BFL's claims to be accurate, not a bunch of lies.  
Kind of serves them right for handing over thousands of dollars without doing any research first. No sympathy here.

When the investment was a few hundred for a Jalapeno you could be excused for having a gamble, now that we are talking just under $5k a lot of people will borrow for that amount, and pay interest for many months on the loan.

Remember the new BFL chips have not had tape out to the foundry yet, expect a 3-4mth. delay from tape out, for BFL to get the wafers back from the foundry, send them off to the chip packaging company, get them back, build a PCB, and build/debug a working prototype to see if it even meets the design specifications. Then they can start looking into production and shipping. I can't see that happening by Nov/Dec 2013 which their Monarch ad promises.






Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 18, 2013, 08:57:14 PM
this means only one thing, that everyone at BFL is working his own way and living in his own world, no team work no organization no communication....  if they are not organized about the simplest things, how do you expect that they will fulfill a production plan  hahahahahaahah

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx62/wanderingSoul_photos/Dah.jpg


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Carlton Banks on August 18, 2013, 08:59:06 PM
Unfortunately, a big part of the problem is that a lot of potential BFL customers never see this forum. They never read up on BFL's actual history and shenanigans.

Some potential customer might of just heard of Bitcoin for the first time yesterday. They then google around for a few minutes, see BFL ads somewhere as they have a strong online presence, and place an order, all expecting BFL's claims to be accurate, not a bunch of lies. 

I was typing just this type of post, yea is sorry i think they see some of those old articles from gizmodo or ars or whatever of a working jalapeno making 800 dollars worth of btc......in Jan.

It is sad but common sense is becoming a rare trait.


It's a pretty serious dent in the credibility and the ethics of the established journalistic outfits that were happy to give BFL at minimum a tacit endorsement of their business all so they could wet their little panties over a money printing device (ahead of paying customers). I'd already started wondering about the journalistic biases of, for instance, ArsTechnica, but now I truly know how many pinches of salt to take their reporting with. It wasn't outside their range of expertise, or indeed their job description to do an accurate portrayal of BFL, but that didn't take place in the product placement, ahem, the review.


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: joeventura on August 18, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
Let me quote from the Monarch Website:

"Institutional Pricing:  If you would like to purchase 50 or more cards, please contact Dave McClain for institutional pricing: 913-710-4865"


Well, Instead of calling Dave, I sent him a Email.

ME
Quote
Dear Dave,

I would love to see your quote for 77 units of the monarch BPU 600 c

Thanks in advance


Daves reply:
Quote
Christian,

There are no special pricing or quantity discounts. The price on the website is the same for 1 or 77.


--
With appreciation,

Dave
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
Account Manager
800-809-6463 (MINE) Ext. 101


my reply:
Quote
What the fuck, seriously?

Let me quote the butterflylabs website:

"Institutional Pricing:  If you would like to purchase 50 or more cards, please contact Dave McClain for institutional pricing: 913-710-4865"


and finally dave:
Quote
My sincerest apologies. What time can we talk this week?



How stupid is that company? hilarious!


This is outrageous.....

His reply should have been:

"So you want to buy 77 with institutional pricing?  What Institution are you locked up in?"




Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Bitcoinorama on August 18, 2013, 10:42:15 PM
Unfortunately, a big part of the problem is that a lot of potential BFL customers never see this forum. They never read up on BFL's actual history and shenanigans.

Some potential customer might of just heard of Bitcoin for the first time yesterday. They then google around for a few minutes, see BFL ads somewhere as they have a strong online presence, and place an order, all expecting BFL's claims to be accurate, not a bunch of lies. 

I was typing just this type of post, yea is sorry i think they see some of those old articles from gizmodo or ars or whatever of a working jalapeno making 800 dollars worth of btc......in Jan.

It is sad but common sense is becoming a rare trait.


It's a pretty serious dent in the credibility and the ethics of the established journalistic outfits that were happy to give BFL at minimum a tacit endorsement of their business all so they could wet their little panties over a money printing device (ahead of paying customers). I'd already started wondering about the journalistic biases of, for instance, ArsTechnica, but now I truly know how many pinches of salt to take their reporting with. It wasn't outside their range of expertise, or indeed their job description to do an accurate portrayal of BFL, but that didn't take place in the product placement, ahem, the review.

I said this at the time and was slated for criticising the lack of journalistic integrity displayed by Arts Technica, and Tech Crunch.


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Carlton Banks on August 18, 2013, 11:02:01 PM
Unfortunately, a big part of the problem is that a lot of potential BFL customers never see this forum. They never read up on BFL's actual history and shenanigans.

Some potential customer might of just heard of Bitcoin for the first time yesterday. They then google around for a few minutes, see BFL ads somewhere as they have a strong online presence, and place an order, all expecting BFL's claims to be accurate, not a bunch of lies. 

I was typing just this type of post, yea is sorry i think they see some of those old articles from gizmodo or ars or whatever of a working jalapeno making 800 dollars worth of btc......in Jan.

It is sad but common sense is becoming a rare trait.


It's a pretty serious dent in the credibility and the ethics of the established journalistic outfits that were happy to give BFL at minimum a tacit endorsement of their business all so they could wet their little panties over a money printing device (ahead of paying customers). I'd already started wondering about the journalistic biases of, for instance, ArsTechnica, but now I truly know how many pinches of salt to take their reporting with. It wasn't outside their range of expertise, or indeed their job description to do an accurate portrayal of BFL, but that didn't take place in the product placement, ahem, the review.

I said this at the time and was slated for criticising the lack of journalistic integrity displayed by Arts Technica, and Tech Crunch.

Could this be a pre-emptive clarion call to a micropayment funded, de-corporatised attempt at objective journalism? If information is power, and the public are slowly beginning to realise that they're getting what they pay for with free to air media, could Bitcoin micro-payments revolutionise the information market by delivering a more convincingly transparent and unbiased reporting framework? What would it take for you to really believe the quality of what you're reading? I've long posited that those that hold the greatest power and responsibility should have to surrender more of their privacy in order to prove their trustworthiness, only the genuinely committed would work under such conditions. I'd happily sacrifice some freedom and privacy if it helped elevate trust in a new quality of journalism and reporting (assuming I can come up with good copy and chase down good topics, of course). Too much journalism is stories, and who can sell a story that doesn't satisfy the description? I want solidly believable information, not the narrative equivalent of a rollercoaster.


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 18, 2013, 11:58:41 PM
Are people really still buying from BFL?

NO! We are all just starting new threads for the heck of it, and playing a game consisting of bumping BFL threads so that Avalon and KnC have somebody to play with.  ;D


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Unacceptable on August 19, 2013, 12:11:01 AM
Heres your chance to be first in line guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Monarch-600-GH-s-ASIC-Preorder-Placed-08-17-13-BTC-Bitcoin-Miner-/161088301635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25819c6a43

Get em while they last...erm...I mean they'll BE last  :D


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: YipYip on August 19, 2013, 12:15:46 AM
Let me quote from the Monarch Website:

"Institutional Pricing:  If you would like to purchase 50 or more cards, please contact Dave McClain for institutional pricing: 913-710-4865"


Well, Instead of calling Dave, I sent him a Email.

ME
Quote
Dear Dave,

I would love to see your quote for 77 units of the monarch BPU 600 c

Thanks in advance


Daves reply:
Quote
Christian,

There are no special pricing or quantity discounts. The price on the website is the same for 1 or 77.


--
With appreciation,

Dave
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
Account Manager
800-809-6463 (MINE) Ext. 101


my reply:
Quote
What the fuck, seriously?

Let me quote the butterflylabs website:

"Institutional Pricing:  If you would like to purchase 50 or more cards, please contact Dave McClain for institutional pricing: 913-710-4865"


and finally dave:
Quote
My sincerest apologies. What time can we talk this week?



How stupid is that company? hilarious!


This is outrageous.....

His reply should have been:

"So you want to buy 77 with institutional pricing?  What Institution are you locked up in?"



'

Dude that was funny ... :D

Or

..."Sure 77 units that sounds great let me send our sales team over to discuss it ...whats your location ?"

...."NURSE we have a live one get the extraction team ready CODE BLUE CODE BLUE !!!"

lolz





Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: YipYip on August 19, 2013, 12:21:50 AM
Heres your chance to be first in line guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Monarch-600-GH-s-ASIC-Preorder-Placed-08-17-13-BTC-Bitcoin-Miner-/161088301635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25819c6a43

Get em while they last...erm...I mean they'll BE last  :D

I added a watch to help get his hopes up as I am sure the guy is suffering from some form of illness and we should always be kind to sick pplz :D


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 19, 2013, 12:26:48 AM
Let me quote from the Monarch Website:

"Institutional Pricing:  If you would like to purchase 50 or more cards, please contact Dave McClain for institutional pricing: 913-710-4865"


Well, Instead of calling Dave, I sent him a Email.

ME
Quote
Dear Dave,

I would love to see your quote for 77 units of the monarch BPU 600 c

Thanks in advance


Daves reply:
Quote
Christian,

There are no special pricing or quantity discounts. The price on the website is the same for 1 or 77.


--
With appreciation,

Dave
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
Account Manager
800-809-6463 (MINE) Ext. 101


my reply:
Quote
What the fuck, seriously?

Let me quote the butterflylabs website:

"Institutional Pricing:  If you would like to purchase 50 or more cards, please contact Dave McClain for institutional pricing: 913-710-4865"


and finally dave:
Quote
My sincerest apologies. What time can we talk this week?



How stupid is that company? hilarious!

Dave's working this weekend, but doesn't know what's going on. Nasser, the Persian in France, is posting replies late at night penning in excellent English. Josh is nowhere to be found. Jody is home with her chickens till the next photo shoot at Camp BFL. And Sonny is probably on his jetski on some lake in the Ozarks.

I wonder what it would cost to wave a red flag on the Dushanbe Flagpole for one day.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/World's_biggest_flagpolejordanamman.jpg/300px-World's_biggest_flagpolejordanamman.jpg


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Unacceptable on August 19, 2013, 12:28:25 AM
Heres your chance to be first in line guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Monarch-600-GH-s-ASIC-Preorder-Placed-08-17-13-BTC-Bitcoin-Miner-/161088301635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25819c6a43

Get em while they last...erm...I mean they'll BE last  :D

I added a watch to help get his hopes up as I am sure the guy is suffering from some form of illness and we should always be kind to sick pplz :D

Your soooo mean  :D


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 19, 2013, 12:28:40 AM
Heres your chance to be first in line guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Monarch-600-GH-s-ASIC-Preorder-Placed-08-17-13-BTC-Bitcoin-Miner-/161088301635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25819c6a43

Get em while they last...erm...I mean they'll BE last  :D

I added a watch to help get his hopes up as I am sure the guy is suffering from some form of illness and we should always be kind to sick pplz :D

Dude, ask him if it's FCC certified, thus having him thinkin' it's me.


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: YipYip on August 19, 2013, 01:00:16 AM
Heres your chance to be first in line guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Monarch-600-GH-s-ASIC-Preorder-Placed-08-17-13-BTC-Bitcoin-Miner-/161088301635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25819c6a43

Get em while they last...erm...I mean they'll BE last  :D

I added a watch to help get his hopes up as I am sure the guy is suffering from some form of illness and we should always be kind to sick pplz :D

Dude, ask him if it's FCC certified, thus having him thinkin' it's me.

DOne :D

"Is it FCC certified as I have had problems in the past when trying to ship products into Australia ??"


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: YipYip on August 20, 2013, 02:04:37 AM
Heres your chance to be first in line guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Monarch-600-GH-s-ASIC-Preorder-Placed-08-17-13-BTC-Bitcoin-Miner-/161088301635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25819c6a43

Get em while they last...erm...I mean they'll BE last  :D

I added a watch to help get his hopes up as I am sure the guy is suffering from some form of illness and we should always be kind to sick pplz :D

Dude, ask him if it's FCC certified, thus having him thinkin' it's me.

DOne :D

"Is it FCC certified as I have had problems in the past when trying to ship products into Australia ??"

Here was the response from ebay guy

"Hi xxxxxxx,

They have recently received FCC certification as of March 2013. Also, it will be shipping from me via expedited shipping, so it should be a little easier to get through customs.

- majestic84"


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Bitcoinorama on August 20, 2013, 02:06:03 AM
Heres your chance to be first in line guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Monarch-600-GH-s-ASIC-Preorder-Placed-08-17-13-BTC-Bitcoin-Miner-/161088301635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25819c6a43

Get em while they last...erm...I mean they'll BE last  :D

I added a watch to help get his hopes up as I am sure the guy is suffering from some form of illness and we should always be kind to sick pplz :D

Dude, ask him if it's FCC certified, thus having him thinkin' it's me.

DOne :D

"Is it FCC certified as I have had problems in the past when trying to ship products into Australia ??"

Here was the response from ebay guy

"Hi xxxxxxx,

They have recently received FCC certification as of March 2013. Also, it will be shipping from me via expedited shipping, so it should be a little easier to get through customs.

- majestic84"

Now tell him you work for the FTC. ;)


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: 1l1l11ll1l on August 20, 2013, 02:56:56 AM
Heres your chance to be first in line guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Monarch-600-GH-s-ASIC-Preorder-Placed-08-17-13-BTC-Bitcoin-Miner-/161088301635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25819c6a43

Get em while they last...erm...I mean they'll BE last  :D

I added a watch to help get his hopes up as I am sure the guy is suffering from some form of illness and we should always be kind to sick pplz :D

Dude, ask him if it's FCC certified, thus having him thinkin' it's me.

DOne :D

"Is it FCC certified as I have had problems in the past when trying to ship products into Australia ??"

Here was the response from ebay guy

"Hi xxxxxxx,

They have recently received FCC certification as of March 2013. Also, it will be shipping from me via expedited shipping, so it should be a little easier to get through customs.

- majestic84"

Now tell him you work for the FTC. ;)

And say your wife works for the FCC


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Bitcoinorama on August 20, 2013, 02:58:24 AM
Heres your chance to be first in line guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-Monarch-600-GH-s-ASIC-Preorder-Placed-08-17-13-BTC-Bitcoin-Miner-/161088301635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25819c6a43

Get em while they last...erm...I mean they'll BE last  :D

I added a watch to help get his hopes up as I am sure the guy is suffering from some form of illness and we should always be kind to sick pplz :D

Dude, ask him if it's FCC certified, thus having him thinkin' it's me.

DOne :D

"Is it FCC certified as I have had problems in the past when trying to ship products into Australia ??"

Here was the response from ebay guy

"Hi xxxxxxx,

They have recently received FCC certification as of March 2013. Also, it will be shipping from me via expedited shipping, so it should be a little easier to get through customs.

- majestic84"

Now tell him you work for the FTC. ;)

And say your wife works for the FCC

Followed by FKU...:P


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: smoothie on August 20, 2013, 03:02:15 AM
Let me quote from the Monarch Website:

"Institutional Pricing:  If you would like to purchase 50 or more cards, please contact Dave McClain for institutional pricing: 913-710-4865"


Well, Instead of calling Dave, I sent him a Email.

ME
Quote
Dear Dave,

I would love to see your quote for 77 units of the monarch BPU 600 c

Thanks in advance


Daves reply:
Quote
Christian,

There are no special pricing or quantity discounts. The price on the website is the same for 1 or 77.


--
With appreciation,

Dave
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
Account Manager
800-809-6463 (MINE) Ext. 101


my reply:
Quote
What the fuck, seriously?

Let me quote the butterflylabs website:

"Institutional Pricing:  If you would like to purchase 50 or more cards, please contact Dave McClain for institutional pricing: 913-710-4865"


and finally dave:
Quote
My sincerest apologies. What time can we talk this week?



How stupid is that company? hilarious!

screen caps perhaps?

If true, definitely a funny exchange of words.


Title: Re: BFL totally Stupid
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 20, 2013, 04:26:43 AM
Quote

[10:37 PM]   Mouth-Full-O-Earth : Josh, I have the negative bal problem
...
[10:41 PM]   polrpaul : [11:38 PM] Mouth-Full-O-Earth : Ok, I've passed that along for the devs to look at it
[10:41 PM]   polrpaul : [11:40 PM] BFL_Josh : I've passed that along for the devs to look at it
...
[10:41 PM]   polrpaul : I just thought it was peculiarly same language
...
[10:42 PM]   BFL_Josh : I think I hit hte wrong key when I was replying and it sent as him... not sure how that's possible, but it also copied his order number into my text box.


Fake customer support... that's a new low
Your $4mil at work
That confirms he is using socks.

And the following confirms he doesn't use them.

I wonder where the foul mouthed BFL spokesdude has gone too. The silence is deafening. Hello? If you miss your daily quota of personal attacks and trolling accusations, this is going to reflect badly in your performance review under the "productivity" section. Please think of the children and save Christmas.

Are you so dense that you haven't figured it out yet?  I only come in here and whip up the natives when the BFL mania dies down.  Right now, it's a raging fire, you don't need my input.  The top 10+ threads in the hardware forum are all about BFL.  If things start dying down again, I'll post more.

...and they're mostly debates about whether BFL is staffed by idiots or thieves.

You are one of my best workers :)  I appreciate you more than you know.

Thank you! Must be nice saving all the effort of creating sockpuppet accounts yourself.

Absolutely!  I don't believe in sock puppet accounts, I just get people like you to post constantly.