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Shall we talk about Ukraine? I hope Ukranians and people who has  visited and lived in Ukraine will join with thread to share their experiences here

1. Is Ukraine safe for foreigners ?
2 Are Ukrainians are racists ?
3. How is the living cost in Ukraine
4. Are there part time jobs for international students in Ukraine ?
5. Is it difficult to find part time jobs without knowing their language?

It is safe with no nationalists you should worry about. Costs are cheap (compared to Europe), there is a huge international student community (especially in Lviv and Kyiv). Worth visiting!

It's not safe at all. Read the news about kidnapping the bitcoint holders in Kiev and Odessa first. If it's not enough I can continue.

I was to Ukraine two or three times and here we go:

1) More of less. Just don't go to the far countryside - bet even in your country a drunk rednecks are dangerous
2) Mostly not, but they gotta stare on you sometimes if you're a chocolate boy :P
3) For foreigners the Ukraine is quite cheap but locals are pretty poor mostly
4) Yes, also you'll get double salary then the locals. Same to probably all slavic countries
5) Start ups are the answer, that hipsers gonna pay you tons of money if you're foreigner


Yeah-yeah, and in your country it's a paradise and you can safely walk with a billion dollars case on the streets. C'mon, that guy did stupid thing and it's obvious he was robbed.

Is this Ukrainian language ? Unluckily I don't understand your language.
I appreciate if you can write this in English so that I can interpret well. 
Thanks for your view even though I dont understand it. :)

It is not safe, it is a major fact not to go there,
Yes and No , I will take it as majority could be racists.
Yeah I heard it is illegal to work in Ukraine while you studying. I could see that lot of Indians  studying in Ukraine.
Yes true, Russians influences, I like Putin, But when It comes to Ukraine sovereignty fact. I am bit answerable. :)

Yes I checked food price in Ukraine, they are unbelievable cheap.  :) Then I searched further more why the food price is very low, cos they plant vegetables. but meat are bit more expensive , meats and fish are being imported, I will take a visit in future, Yeah mostly Indian and African students , correct me If I am wrong..

1. Is Ukraine safe for foreigners ?

Yes of course.

2 Are Ukrainians are racists ?

No.

3. How is the living cost in Ukraine

Cheap, one of the cheapest

4. Are there part time jobs for international students in Ukraine ?

Yes

5. Is it difficult to find part time jobs without knowing their language?

No, especially in Kyiv and other big cities. In small cities it might be hard.
Moreover if you are related to cryptocurrency world - you can earn online in crypto.

I'm a bit confused by your messages. If you like Putin and will shout it everywhere - may be Ukraine is not the best country to visit))
Also some of the commentators here provide false information - guys why do you do it? ))

1.Ukraine is safe for all people)
2.No they are racists
3.Mesyats in Ukraine somewhere around $ 500-300 and this and that would live on a majeure and so on $ 100 you can live
4.Is but the payment is very small do not see the point
5. Will be complicated

I am a Ukrainian and I love my place!
1. Is Ukraine safe for foreigners?
Of course! But don't carry coals to Newcastle. Be tolerant of Ukrainian citizens, our culture, and traditions.
2. Are Ukrainians are racists?
Intelligent adults aren't  racists. But sometimes you can meet people or teenagers with their hang-ups.
3. How is the living cost in Ukraine
It is relatively cheap to live in Ukraine. The price is starting from 10 dollars per day. In the capital and big cities it can be more.
4. Are there part time jobs for international students in Ukraine?
If you know the Ukrainian language, at least can understand and explain smth, you can find a suitable job for you.
5. Is it difficult to find part time jobs without knowing their language?
Yes, it is more difficult. But everything depends on you.


I don't believe that in your place it is safe everywhere. In Ukraine as in other countries, there are good people as well as bad. And you can find troubles everywhere.

i heard you can do some good hildays in the ukraine especially skiing.

Year! You can spend a great time in the Ukrainian Carpathian Mountains in winter. Skiing, skating, snowboarding, riding the snowmobiles, beautiful nature is waiting.

Considering that Ukraine is the punching bag for Russia, I really don’t think wise for anyone to visit there especially when Putin can be moody and decide to attack them whenever he clearly wants to. The people are great but security wise I don’t think so.

Run a bar in Israel, many Ukranians are coming. In an hour or two one will try to kick ass of another one. It's all about the politics they say. They just don't like ukranians.

I dont know 100% about this situation. But Russia caused much suffering. I hope things will get better there soon.

Isolated incidents can't be used to tarnish a country. As far as I know, Ukraine is pretty safe for anyone, as long as you avoid the troubled areas and stay away from the drug paddlers. At least when you compare Ukraine to other expat destinations such as South Africa and Indonesia, the former looks like a heaven. But language problems can be a concern though.

This message looked stupid for me, because it gives no sense. "Ukrainians are coming and they just don't like ukrainians"..
So I checked your profiles and most of your messages are in Russian
So if you hate Ukraine and Ukrainians - that's your problem, don't spread stupid messages like this in topic about Ukraine.

For all the readers - as you see, some messages which you might read about Ukraine can come from Russians (even if they are living in another countries or pretend that they are from another countries).

Ukraine is great country both for living and for cryptocurrency, blockchain activities.

Thanks for the response. I think you are from Ukraine,

Well. regarding living cost. You are correct. Foods are cheap in Ukraine, Specially vegetables cos the cultivate vegetables in Ukraine,

No. 3, part time job in Ukraine, As I heard it is illegal to do part time jobs in Ukraine, correct me If I am wrong.
I will not say that I like Putin in Ukraine, it is politics I know the situation.  :)

Yeah If you have good Crypto income source You don't have to worry about surviving in abroad..

Thanks for your explanation being an Ukrainian, I went through them carefully. Yeah, knowing their language in  overseas always feel conformable, I got your points.

Hi!
Which city do you plan to visit for student exchange?

1) I think yes, we have a lot of foreigner student
2)Some can be, but you can find  such person in any country
3) Around  $200-400 depend of you lifestyle
4) yes but payment  not so high
5) It's depend on your skills,  and with out knowing language I think you cant find high payment job.

Yes, That fact is undeniable. But more possibility is that won't happen cos Nato will interfere, USA is also a member of NATO. Russia still cannot afford long run war, at the moment they want to expand their economy growth, Actually even USA cannot afford a war any more, But in the end Mr. Putin is unpredictable man.

Im looking forward to visit ukraine but on some reason or some people seeing ukraine as a no , a bad thing to visit. I hope I wont regret anything if i visit ukraine right? I quote on this reply hoping that somebody pursue me more or talk about the ukraine. And by any chance somehow guide me I know ukraine is a lot more to explore so hoping and looking forward.

Yes, I agree with you on your statement that Isolated incident can't be used to tarnish a whole country, It is not the way to read the whole picture of a country. These type of incident can occur in any country. For a example Anders Breivik's mass murderer scene in Norway doesn't approve that Norway is unsafe for people. Of course Norway one of safest places to live. That was only Isolates incident from a crazy man.

Hey guys be cool. We should respect Ukran's sovereignty ,However I read something like this that Crimea was not a truly sovereign territory of Ukraine. It was supposed to be transferred to Russia in 1991, and it didn't happen only due to lack of time and resources on both sides. Transfer would have eliminated huge problems that Crimea faced while under Ukranian control. I never noticed that much about Ukraine before this incident. later I got to know Ukraine also powerful war nation. Because In soviet era most of Weapons were made in Ukraine, So they have so many weapons and air crafts as well. I would like to hear from you guys about this incident and two countries too.  

After 1991, after collapse of Soviet Union, Ukraine was 3rd military power in the world. Yes, it might sound strange for some people who doesn't know this history, but Ukraine had 3rd biggest nuclear arsenal, after USA and Russia.
In 1994 Ukraine gave its nuclear weapons and signed Budapest memorandum with USA, UK, Russia and these countries guaranteed security of Ukraine. Russia violated Budapest memorandum by occupying and annexing Crimea. That's it if in brief.

The problems in Crimea started during the 1990s, when the returning Crimean Tatar Muslims began forcibly occupying the farms owned by the ethnic Russians. The Ukrainian government sided with the Muslims, and this made the local Russian population very hostile towards the regime in Kiev. That is the reason why almost no one in Crimea (not even the ethnic Ukrainians) want to be part of Ukraine ever again. The Muslims on the other hand want the peninsula to merge with Turkey.

That's Russian position, or even I would say position of some Russian imperialists. I thought you are from Russia as well as other commenters, but checked some other posts and it seems you are Indian (like I thought first time when saw the name).
Many Muslims from Crimea (Tatars) wanted to be in united Ukraine, but Putin and Russian special forces used the moment when after Maidan Kyiv government was week and occupied Crimea.
Many people including ethic Russians are not happy to live in occupied territory which Russia claims to be its own (but that's not recognized by almost no other states, including India). So some day Crimea should return to Ukraine. We'll see.

Ukraine is a beautiful country and quite cheap for the cost of living. But I think it's better to choose big cities where there are many people with whom you can communicate in English if you need help. I recently went to Kiev and I can say that it's safe and there are a lot of friendly people.

Thanks, that's good and honest review.
Yes, if you need more communication - it's better to choose big cities, if you need cultural life - choose cities.
But if it doesn't matter you can choose even any small town, the price of living there will be even cheaper

1. Is Ukraine safe for foreigners ?

Truely saying, I have been to many countries from abroad and I have something that I can compare to. There are many crazy people around the world and Ukraine isn't an exception. So I can ezly say that it is pretty much safe.

2. Are Ukrainians are racists ?

Presonaly, I have never met an Ukrainian who would say that he hates any other race.

3. How is the living cost in Ukraine.

Unfortunately, Ukrainian economic is disastrous and it means that you can easily excange some dolars for a pretty big amount of hryvnias.
As for prices, they aren't high at all for any foreigner. You can spend a week here with all the comforts only for 350$. It all depends on a region and quality or a choosen living place.

4. Are there part time jobs for international students in Ukraine ?

Rather yes than no. Waiter, postman, barman, delivery man and so on. All this professions are easy to find in every city of our country. But the salary might be not as high as you would like it to be. Keep it in mind.

5. Is it difficult to find part time jobs without knowing their language?

Quote from: Flodner on Today at 04:23:27 PM
No, especially in Kyiv and other big cities.
It's hard to agree with you. In one hand you don't need to communicate with other people much when you do some physical part time job, but in another and you've got to be able to find a contact with your colleagues or customers. So it can be pretty difficult.

Huge opportunities are open for skilled programmers due to fast-growing offshore programming industry. Native English may be an opportunity for language teaching. I'll agree that common part-time jobs like waiters or delivery that need  to communicate with local customers will be hard for a foreiner. But many local businesses are export-oriented and seek for stuff with good language skills for sales, support etc.
As for general safety it is pretty good for a country in war.

May be when replying I was thinking more about IT area. In past when I worked in IT companies, I had several foreign colleagues, and sometimes they even got more salary because they were "native speakers".
Also in big cities there are many language schools, so if you speak fluently Spanish, Italian, French, Chinese, Arabic and many other languages - you can find  job in this area too.

And if we are talking about physical jobs - it's more difficult, but if you have friends they can help you in this direction

Why do you need a job? You are sitting on cryptocurrency forum :)

There are a lot of foreign students in Ukraine. You can find them on Facebook and talk to them.

Not all people can earn in cryptocurrency area)
But earning in crypto and spending in Hryvnyas (Ukrainian currency) is great idea for foreign visitors and tourists

By the way about tourism you can check this site http://andy-travel.com.ua/region/podorozhi-ukrayinoyu
It covers lot of unique places in Ukraine
It's in Ukrainian, but it has lots of photos and just in case to check info you can use translator

Ukraine is a country located in Europe bordered by Russia. This country is a developed economy within the European Union Ero. 2008 UEFA European Football Championship final. Spain is the team that won the championship. Ukraine is currently in a state of war and a recession.

I want to know about the country ukraine:
1. ukraine is located on which continent.
2. How many people do ukraine have?
3. Ukraine won the European Cup.
4. Ukraine is currently in a state of war or not.

Oh really? There are more than 2 million members in this forum. How many of them are earning decent salary in the form of Bitcoin or altcoin? I would say that the amount will be in two digits. Unless you are a campaign manager or someone at that level, it is very difficult to earn decent wages here. Sig campaign earnings are good as additional income. But they can never be your primary income source.

1. Europe
2. Around 45 mln
3. No, but UEFA European Championships — Euro 2012 was held in Ukraine.
4. Yes, but the war is located only on the small part of territory in the east.

It was a joke in a little. The average salary in Ukraine (becides Kiev, Lviv, Odessa, Kharkov, Dnipro) is near $150. Do you really want to work in Ukraine? It's better to be a freelancer and take salary in USD or cryptocoins.

About football... The 2018 UEFA Champions League Final will be in Kiev on 26.05.2018

Are there Bitcoin ATM machines in Ukraine?
what do you meant by freelancer , you mean online freelancer jobs ? I guess so,
However if you are in to Crypto market with good capital I think you can survive with crypto income in Ukraine,
hope 2018 UEFA Champions League will help Kiev economy

Ukraine is a wonderful country, be sure to visit it, I live in Russia, but I really want to go to live in Ukraine. There are no racists in Ukraine. Recently, the country is considered unsafe, but I think everything will improve with time.

There are a lot of ASICs in Ukraine, you can find UA ASICs shops in web. But mining is not fully safe. There are no laws which direct mining. Everybody mines for his own risk.
Freelancer - is a selfemployer person who works online.

And most importantly, I have tasted delicious food there!  :) And, of course, there are beautiful girls (for those who are interested). Have a safe trip!  ;)

Yes, there are some Bitcoin ATM machines, i.e. in one popular chain of ibox machines you can buy Bitcoins, there is also Blockchain Hub and there is ATM inside.
Also from online exchanges it's easy to withraw crypto to bank cards and then use in any ATM.

2018 UEFA Champions League won't help economy much, as I understand it will be 1 event, so it's a small drop in the ocean of economy.
But IT and Blockchain area helps economy a lot.

I don't know what ASIC is, I think that's something related to Bitcoin mining. I asked about ATM machines that we can withdraw our bitcoin. Hope Bitcoin ATM machines are available in Ukraine.
I alread know the term of freelancer. I asked is it online freelancer or off line freelancer. Thanks.

Wow that's great. It looks like Ukraine is a one of major bitcoin supportive countries in the world but not much noticed by people. then we can use XAPO cards as well in Ukraine.

Yeah but still a help. (2018 UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAG )

Yeah I  checked some videos they got some nice foods. of course , When I asked about Ukraine from people , they ask me, why you wanna go to Ukraine? because of girls. lol. That means Ukrainian girls are so beautiful. :)
How are their qualities of Ukrainian women ?  I know Poland girls are so caring. they look after their husbands very well. what about Ukranian girls attitude towards their life partner ? are they trustworthy? caring similarly polish girls ?  ?

Sorry, I didn't rightly understand you)


Our women are more caring than polish))

Yes, Ukrainian girls and women are the best!))
And yes, Ukraine is one of the leading countries in blockchain and this will be developed more and more.
On Davos Tapscott showed the Blockchain map and Ukraine was there!

really?  :D you say this just because you are a Ukranian or based on real facts being impartial?

Oh another Ukranian. lol ..Ukranian girls are good. But polish girls are the best.

http://www.rooshv.com/13-personality-traits-of-polish-women

https://polandian.wordpress.com/2008/02/18/ten-things-to-remember-when-you-have-a-polish-girlfriend/

https://www.international-love.dating/en/polish-women

Which country are you from? Just curious)
Anyway I don't mind if you choose to go to Poland)

I just jokingly said, Hope both Ukrainian and polish women are similarly nice, both belongs to Slavic countries right?

Ukrainians are just the victims of a big game in politics

1. Yes.
2. No.
3. I believe it's much more cheaper than in Europe and USA.
4-5. I think if you know English good you'll definitely find some nice job there.

4-5. I think if you know English good you'll definitely find some nice job there.
I thought without knowing Russian langauge It is hard to find part time jobs.
That's great to hear if you know engilsh you can still find part time jobs in Ukraine.
By the way. Are you a Ukrainian to confirm your details ?

I don't know about Polish girls but in Ukraine the girls are mostly trustworthy. They usually take care of their husband, cook delicious food (as we don't get used to eat semi-finished product all the time). We are obsessed with our family.

Yes in deed, i agree with you, there is no reason why somebody should fell safe in Ukraine. I am not from Ukraine but they don't have happy news.Regarding to the kidnapping i have found a link for those interested:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-kidnapping/ukraine-kidnappers-free-bitcoin-analyst-after-1-mln-ransom-paid-idUSKBN1EN1QB

Huh...when I saw the title I thought, firstly, about another kremlin bitch posting scam - but it's just about tourists, a long-forgotten theme
Ukraine not outstandingly safe for foreigners when they don't know how to keep themselves in safety. But you can have various good time with rather low cost
*whispering* you can mine there, in places

Eastern European women are more feminine, and they are relatively untouched by the rabid radical feminism which is prevalent in Western Europe (Sweden, Germany.etc). The women from these nations make up good wives and that is why the men from a lot of western European nations such as England and France are flocking to the ex-USSR nations to find a suitable match.

Can an Isolated incident apply to the whole story ? These type of incidents cant emerge in any country. ( may be not in Scandinavian countries, but again what about Anders Breivik mass killing?  ) Is USA safe country ? I think still Ukraine safer than USA.

That's great to hear, I think every Slavic girls have similar qualities.  much better than western Europeans. That's why i like them. May be influences from communism era.  Socialism brings more humanity to the world I guess.

user altracom , you said that ''Ukraine not outstandingly safe for foreigners when they don't know how to keep themselves in safety.. So as you think how some keep himself safety in Ukraine? any tips to follow?

Hello user Sithara007, Appreciate your viwes here. I always like your comment cos they are very logic and impartial. Yes agree with you. Eastern European women are more feminine, I guess these qualities from communism. still  they are not  influenced  from Western European culture, have been able to protect their good norms as they were always in the past. That's why I like them.

There are also crimes in Great Britain and Canada associated with bitcoin... It does not show the real order of things.

Question to TS: What city do you want to visit?

Kiev is the best for a foreigner ? you name it,
How is the climate in Kiev? What is the less cold city in Ukraine? I don't like much cold weather...
I appreciate your help Hope you are native Ukrainian...

Yes, I am native Ukrainian. I'm not from very big town (~300.000 population) and I like my quiet place, my parents live in the capital)) Kiev is a metropolis, but has a lot of green trees, powerful Dnipro river, interesting areas. Climate changes every year. You can see -20° C in winter much more seldom than early. here (https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Temperature-Sunshine,Kiev,Ukraine)

Wikipedia writes that the average annual temperature in Kiev is +8.4 ° C, the highest in July: + 20.5 ° C, the lowest in January: -3.5 ° C. Seems to be true :)

The less cold city in Ukraine is Odessa, is situated on the south of Ukraine at the Black Sea.

Then Odessa is good for me. I will check its climate :)
As you think what is the best city for a foreigner ? consider safety, living cost, climate etc...

How: in fact, the same way like wherever else, I believe. Keep your wallet closer to your body, and your cryptowallet even closer, don't play games you don't know the rules for, don't try violating the local laws (even if your "new friends" guarantee that everything gonna be ok). You can have drinks and dating (if know the right place to search) but don't try to buy drugs, even weed - local prisons are of somewhat much lower standard than abroad. And consider keeping as far away from Russia-controlled regions as possible.

That's fine because, never use alcohol or drugs. are there thieves to steal your wallet in Ukraine?

My first move was to ask "are there countries without thives?" but then I recalled for example Scandinavia... at the same time, a glass of beer is 6 or 7 times more expensive in Scandinavia than in Ukraine - isn't it a state-controlled civilized form of robbery?(

I understand your point. but in the end government doesn't harm you instead of charging taxes what you called some sort of robbery. :) however we can protect ourselves from thieves in Ukraine if we are vigilant enough I guess.

Ce mai faceţi?
I see you are from Romania, but have you been to Ukraine? You can't judge about safety only by 1 event.
Many my friends from US and EU said that Ukraine is more safe than their countries.
Of course there are thieves and robbers, they are everywhere, but if you are afraid of this you can just increase your level of awareness, attention and you'll be more safe everywhere

Poltava, Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Vinnitsa - are not very big and not very small towns, but they are enough good for living, to my mind. But they don't have the sea like Odessa has, and their climate is colder..
Lviv is also modern and not very big city with a lot of tourists.

I think all of these towns are not too expensive for life (if you don't buy something in touristic places) :)

Kiev and Odessa are more expensive and more bigger cities. You like warm places, so I don't know what can be better than Odessa.

I think you can make a journey this summer to all of these towns. Stay for 2-3 days in each place and enjoy your experience :)

Hi EEM, I heard Liviv city is nice. shortwhile ago in the internet I got to see another visitor's review about that city. he has said that Liviv people are warmer.
Poltava, Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Vinnitsa are these cities safe enough just like Kiev and Odessa ?
What are the differences of Kiev from Odessa ?

Yeah, all of these towns are too safe and too modern. The main difference is that those towns are not very big like Kiev or Odessa. I cann't find right now why, but Chernivtsi is called as one of the beauteous towns in Europe.

Ukraine is a large country in Eastern Europe known as Orthodox churches, the Black Sea coast and forest mountains. With its capital Kiev, the Cathedral of St. Sophia has a golden dome, with mosaics and frescoes from the 11th century.

Hi Thanks for info. I found this ,  https://www.thekharkivtimes.com/2016/09/21/kharkiv-declared-among-ukraines-safest-cities/


Chernivtsi was ranked the safest city
It looks like Chernivtsi is very safe are there enough people in that city?
 Otherwise it will be a boring place if there are no many people,

Good city, population is 200 or 250 000, is it enough? ))
Good architecture in center, also Carpathian mountains are not far away (1 hour drive by car, or a bit more by train)
If you need many people - Kyiv would be best option. Outdated statistics says 3 million inhabitants, but I think it's around 5 million, and Kyiv is growing more and more

Even too crowdy also not too good. :)
 less people mean here,for a instance  take a country like Norway. There are no many people in that country. So social person may feel boring. Hope Chernivtsi is not that much boring...
What about the weather in Chernivtsi ? is it too cold?

Chernivtsi is quite close to the European Union border, right? Also, around 20% of the population is ethnic Moldovan. It is quite similar to the provinces of Trans-Carpathia, where there is a similar-sized ethnic Magyar minority and Odessa (Bulgarian minority).

Hello, I live in Ukraine.
I will try to answer your questions.

1.It's just as safe for you as for me, pretty safe. Last time here is a problem of crime (theft), so you need to be careful about this.
2. Yes,unfortunately many people are racist.
3. fairly poor country
5. I think yes, but it's will be hard.

Are you really Ukrainian or pretend as a Ukrainian.  ;) or you just live in Ukraine, not a native Ukranian ? Your views are different from other Ukrainians about Ukraine,

It can be both )) You can check his other posts, and evaluate quality, I would not believe people with stupid posts)))
Be like in every country there are pessimists, losers who think that everything is bad around.

He is a russian huh? I saw some posts  i guess they were in Russians. ;D ;D.

Some were in Russian, some were in Ukrainian in Ukrainian thread (there is no separate local subforum, unfortunately)
Hard to guess, he might be Ukrainian, but there are always negative people and pessimists, in all countries.
In Ukraine we also have "fifth column", some people brainwashed by russian propadanda, they usually vote for communists (now this party doesn't exist) and now "Opposition block" - combination of russian puppets, oligarchs and corruptioners.
But amount of such people is not more than 10%

Good occasion to visit Ukraine

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what happens in Ukraine is fratricide and it is certainly very sad, the war is always sad, but unfortunately people in the world do not know how to live.

It is unfortunate. The inhabitants of Eastern Ukraine got trapped in between the two super-powers (Russia and the United States). The US wanted to expand their sphere of influence, while the Russians wanted to prevent that at any cost. In the end it is the ordinary Ukrainians who are suffering, in the form of deaths, injuries and economic destruction.

This position and similar thoughts are used for explanation of Russian aggression.
Before Russian occupation of Crimea majority of Ukrainians were against entrance in NATO, now the majority stand for this (and for any other options which can protect Ukraine). So that was Putin and Russia who increased US influence in Ukraine
Moreover neither US nor other countries (which signed Budapest memorandum which gave security guarantees for Ukraine) didn't do much to help in resisting Russian aggression...

Every country "in-between" of such "super-powers" can meet a similar luck, and some smartass people can say afterwards like "oh it's a just a playground for superpowers". In fact, only one superpowers is prdominantly guilty in the course of last 50 years, and this super-power turns to shit everyhing it touches, making trouble for neighbors, and surrounding itself with shitty sattelites ruined in border conflicts.

Ukraine is a rich country in Europe. Ukraine is bordered by Russia. Ukraine hosted the European football in 2008. Currently Ukraine is suffering from economic crisis and war.

I want to know how much the population of Ukraine is. The country is suffering from war. How many people died of war. The current Ukrainian economy has not developed.

U say Ukraine is a rich country, at the same time you say Ukraine is suffering from economic crisis, how it happens ? War affects the economy. but developed economy will not collapse at once.

I'm also from Ukraine and my answers would be different.

1. Only some regions of Ukraine are not safe, but you will be not allowed to get there. In other regions the situation is as everywhere in the world - watch yor belonings, don't walk at nights alone, in other words - take care of your safety yourself.
2. In my surroundings I don't see any racists. I live in Kharkiv and there are many big communities of foreign students. They use public transport, are part of a crowd in the streets, take part in the city festivals... Never heard of any arguments.
3. Comparing to Europe, it's really very cheap. It depends though on the life level you are used to. Just FYI, here in Kharkiv you can rent a good 1-room flat for $200-250.
4.-5. I'm not a good adviser in these questions, but as I said the international communities are big here, I see some areas in this city with cafes, barbershops and so on for foreign people and led by foreign people. But I can say, not knowing a language could be a problem with finding a job.

Good answer of  Cr_liev
And Kharkiv is a nice city, I've been there several times, but many years ago. Hope to go some day when will be some occasion, i.e. Cryptocurrency conference.
I'm sure there will be, like I shared the conference in Lviv, and Kharkiv is bigger in terms of population

I love Kharkiv and as I lived in some other cities of Ukraine, I can compare. One more warning will be: it looks rather depressive in winter. But I believe this is true to every city in the post-Soviet space.
Wow, you are lucky! I hope to visit some cryptocurrency-oriented conference here, too, but the ones I've heard about were likely organized for the purposes of advertising.

Population excluding Crimea and the DPR/LPR would be around 40 million, and declining at a rate of around 0.5% per year (due to low birth rates and very high death rates). Official sources claim that around 11,000 people have lost their lives so far in the war. But some German sources are claiming that the true number is more than 100,000.

Well, there is still more than a month till that conference in Lviv, so you can plan and visit that conference too.
In Kyiv which is closer to Kharkiv conferences are held almost weekly, and if we include different meetups of all levels - almost daily!

Ukraine is a great country. I was in Ivano Frankovsk and in Harkov - amazing places. At this moment I don't think that Ukraine is very safe place, but not so dangerous as Russia. I hope that next winter I will visit Bukovel with my Ukranian friends.

Check Dragobrat also. Great for freeride and backcountry, definitively have its own spirit. Old lifts but really great mountains and lot's of snow.

http://www.dragobrat.ws/uk/ (http://www.dragobrat.ws/uk/)

This is the first time I am hearing about Dragobrat, so I researched about it a little bit. It is located within the Zakarpatska oblast, near the Hungarian border. Not a very famous resort, but it is quite popular with those from the ex-USSR states. Don't know whether the Ukrainian government is having the resources to develop this resort.

Are you sure that developing a resort is a govermental task?

It will be better if the government develops the resort. On the other hand, if they gift it to the oligarchs such as Renat Akhmetov and Ihor Kolomoyskyi, then the general public is not going to get any of the benefits. These guys will just earn revenues and avoid paying taxes by shipping the money to Cyprus and London.

Then it must be freezing, Hugaria economy is not so strong as I know.
I know the famous super model Babara Palvin , She is from Hungaria. I guess hungarian girls are beautiful.  :)

You are right about sufferings. Russian can't accept that we are a different country

We have lots and lots of proofs around the globe that when any government start business it is ineffective or is directly working for someones pocket after investing our taxes. Governmental task is to give fair and equal opportunities for safe investments and not to spend state money for any projects that can be profitable like ski resorts.

I like Putin and Russia, But when it comes to Ukraine's sovereignty I have to  respect their sovereignty too. Because tomorrow some other big country can do the same to another small neighbor country justifying their invasion. I think all these happened due to western factor. Then Ukraine became victim between 2 super powers. This is a pathetic situation. I heard so many people already have died from the war. And we can remember mistakenly one group attacked the Malaysian passenger airplane with a rocket. Tragedy continued..horrible. 

Essentially what happened in Ukraine is a war between the two groups of Ukrainians (i.e the Western Ukrainians and the Eastern Ukrainians). It will be wrong to blame Putin for this. Obviously, he was supporting the Russian-speaking Eastern Ukrainians. But at the same time the Western Ukrainians were being supported by Angela Merkel and Donald Trump.

Please stop lying about a thing you do know nothing. The war was started by invasion of moskovite troops in Crimea, then russian citizens started to seize cities in Eastern Ukraine, killing and torturing people that voiced any complaints. Merciless rulers like Putin, Stalin, Hitler may seem effective from outside but God help you if you get on their way. Ukraine have made greatest contribution to nuke disarment giving away the third biggest nuclear arsenal in the world. World's powers give warranties of security but non of them provided military help when Russia invaded. Before russian invasion we have good chance to join NATO but nearly half of ukrainians thought we do not need it. Now at least 65% of ukrainians support our move to NATO membership but NATO must be dumb to accept country at war.

Mostly like in any Eastern Slavic country East of Slovakia the cities are totally fine, just gotta watch out for local idiosyncracies (stay smart, know where you are, like in NYC for instance :) ). The countryside I dont know, but from what Ive heard, locals are exceptionally friendly. BUT DRINK WITH THEM !!! - not one shot of vodka, say you don't drink alcohol - when they drink they start being jittery and shit gets weird, perhaps a bit unsafe.

Please stop lying about a thing you do know nothing. The war was started by invasion of moskovite troops in Crimea, then russian citizens started to seize cities in Eastern Ukraine, killing and torturing people that voiced any complaints. Merciless rulers like Putin, Stalin, Hitler may seem effective from outside but God help you if you get on their way. Ukraine have made greatest contribution to nuke disarment giving away the third biggest nuclear arsenal in the world. World's powers give warranties of security but non of them provided military help when Russia invaded. Before russian invasion we have good chance to join NATO but nearly half of ukrainians thought we do not need it. Now at least 65% of ukrainians support our move to NATO membership but NATO must be dumb to accept country at war.
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Good points, unfortunately this person is biased against Ukraine, may be he watched RT (Russia Today channel) all the time. That's sad when people lack political education, but start discussion and pretend that they know a lot.
Even people who are not following politics can know that at the time when Russian aggression happened US President was Barack Obama, and most of the forum political commentator even didn't hear the name Donald Trump

1. What happened in Crimea is different. Crimea is an autonomous republic and it made the decision to merge with Russia.
2. Russian citizens didn't seized cities in eastern Ukraine. 90% of the rebels were Ukrainian citizens.
3. Russia is the successor to the USSR. Just because the nuclear weapons were stationed in Ukraine, that doesn't mean that they don't belong to Russia.
4. NATO or EU will never accept a beggar nation such as Ukraine.
5. You weaken your argument by making ridiculous comparisons, such as the one in bolded letters.

1. In Crimea there was invasion and after that - a voting under guns of invaders. No free country in the world see in as a legitimate people's will expressed.
2. Again you are lying. Armed warfare was started by a group of mainly russian citizens led by Girkin who travelled to Donbass after sucsessful invasion in Crimea. Russian-made heavy arms where supplied by Russian State, including long-range AAM BUK that shot down Malaysian passenger aircraft.
3. If Russia is a successor to USSR it should be ready to pay for crimes conducted by the USSR in different countries, including Ukraine.
4. Please stop you nazi statements about any nation.

Suum cuique.
I think most of the readers will see the lies and that he tries to show himself rude person even makes the lies more obvious.
He just hates Ukraine and that's it, no reason to discuss with such people
But others will come to this thread, we can continue communication with them

Both Ukraine and Russia are dangerous, they have lived and developed pretty much under the same regime, the communism.
And there is also that conflict with Crimeea and Donbas. For now, indeed, some parts of Ukraine are unsafe. Too bad of what's going on over there.

I think this topic was created to start the politician disputes on the forum