Title: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: Wilikon on August 30, 2013, 10:46:24 PM http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/police-storm-homeschool-class-take-children-by-force/
“The children were taken to unknown locations,” HSLDA said. “Officials ominously promised the parents that they would not be seeing their children anytime soon.” The raid, which took place Thursday at 8 a.m. as the children were beginning their day’s classes, has been described by observers as “brutal and vicious.” A team of 20 social workers, police and special agents stormed the family’s home. HSLDA reported a Judge Koenig, who is assigned to the Darmstadt family court, signed an order authorizing the immediate seizure of the children by force. “Citing the parents’ failure to cooperate ‘with the authorities to send the children to school,’ the judge also authorized the use of force ‘against the children’ … reasoning that such force might be required because the children had ‘adopted the parents’ opinions’ regarding homeschooling and that ‘no cooperation could be expected’ from either the parents or the children,” HSLDA said. Dirk Wunderlich told the homeschool group: “I looked through a side window and saw many people, police and special agents, all armed. They told me they wanted to come in to speak with me. I tried to ask questions, but within seconds, three police officers brought a battering ram and were about to break the door in, so I opened it.” Join the battle over Germany’s homeschooling ban. His narration continued: “The police shoved me into a chair and wouldn’t let me even make a phone call at first. It was chaotic as they told me they had an order to take the children. At my slightest movement the agents would grab me, as if I were a terrorist. You would never expect anything like this to happen in our calm, peaceful village. It was like a scene out of a science fiction movie. Our neighbors and children have been traumatized by this invasion.” Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: MysteryMiner on August 30, 2013, 10:51:29 PM Today homeschooling crackpots, tomorrow bitcoiners homes can be invaded. This is exact reason why every person should have FAL rifle ready at hand at all times. Legal or illegal does not matter as long as you are the person controlling the trigger.
Armed persons against children are overkill. Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: Wilikon on August 30, 2013, 11:11:23 PM Today homeschooling crackpots, tomorrow bitcoiners homes can be invaded. This is exact reason why every person should have FAL rifle ready at hand at all times. Legal or illegal does not matter as long as you are the person controlling the trigger. Armed persons against children are overkill. That is why there is a big push for gun regulation, registration, taxation and ultimately confiscation in the USA. I am guessing it is forbidden for a German family to have their children grow up on a sailboat around the world then. Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: Schleicher on August 31, 2013, 03:33:23 PM Well, too bad that there is only one single source for this event:
hslda.org (http://www.hslda.org/hs/international/Germany/201308300.asp) Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: b!z on September 01, 2013, 08:36:51 AM I think the news story is fake, it's not on any major news sites.
Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: Lethn on September 01, 2013, 08:38:01 AM Yeah, if it was real the U.S media in particular would be in an uproar because they love victimising Christians.
Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: b!z on September 01, 2013, 08:41:45 AM Yeah, if it was real the U.S media in particular would be in an uproar because they love victimising Christians. and the police/government Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: Wilikon on September 01, 2013, 06:20:47 PM I really hope the news fake. I hope the German laws are fake also. You are right: if it is not on Yahoo News or CBS in the USA the story does not exist as proof.
Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: Schleicher on September 02, 2013, 03:31:12 PM I really hope the news fake. I hope the German laws are fake also. No, the laws really exist.9 years of school are mandatory in germany. The details vary a bit from area to area, since it is not a federal law. No exceptions for religious nutcases. Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: zwanzig20 on September 02, 2013, 08:42:42 PM Today homeschooling crackpots, tomorrow bitcoiners homes can be invaded. This is exact reason why every person should have FAL rifle ready at hand at all times. Legal or illegal does not matter as long as you are the person controlling the trigger. Armed persons against children are overkill. Using that rifle will only escalate the issue even more Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: Wilikon on September 03, 2013, 04:54:23 AM Today homeschooling crackpots, tomorrow bitcoiners homes can be invaded. This is exact reason why every person should have FAL rifle ready at hand at all times. Legal or illegal does not matter as long as you are the person controlling the trigger. Armed persons against children are overkill. Using that rifle will only escalate the issue even more So you spend your life paying taxes, never late at your job. You helped people in need. Then because the very open minded people who love centralized Borg like mindset decided that you are a nut job believer. It is OK to kidnap your children? Don't get me wrong. Cults are real and destructive. Give them a school test first before you break a family apart with guns. Then they tell you not to do anything "to escalate the issue even more". Snake eyes! thank you for playing the game of Life. Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: zwanzig20 on September 03, 2013, 06:05:36 PM Today homeschooling crackpots, tomorrow bitcoiners homes can be invaded. This is exact reason why every person should have FAL rifle ready at hand at all times. Legal or illegal does not matter as long as you are the person controlling the trigger. Armed persons against children are overkill. Using that rifle will only escalate the issue even more So you spend your life paying taxes, never late at your job. You helped people in need. Then because the very open minded people who love centralized Borg like mindset decided that you are a nut job believer. It is OK to kidnap your children? Don't get me wrong. Cults are real and destructive. Give them a school test first before you break a family apart with guns. Then they tell you not to do anything "to escalate the issue even more". Snake eyes! thank you for playing the game of Life. I understand your point, the whole situation went way to far and they took no concern regarding the children. I also agree with you that cults are real and destructive. But what do you think will happen if you draw your gun while the police comes barging in your house? It would only result in more pain and suffering. Title: Re: Police storm homeschool class, take children by force Post by: Wilikon on September 09, 2013, 03:53:25 AM Today homeschooling crackpots, tomorrow bitcoiners homes can be invaded. This is exact reason why every person should have FAL rifle ready at hand at all times. Legal or illegal does not matter as long as you are the person controlling the trigger. Armed persons against children are overkill. Using that rifle will only escalate the issue even more So you spend your life paying taxes, never late at your job. You helped people in need. Then because the very open minded people who love centralized Borg like mindset decided that you are a nut job believer. It is OK to kidnap your children? Don't get me wrong. Cults are real and destructive. Give them a school test first before you break a family apart with guns. Then they tell you not to do anything "to escalate the issue even more". Snake eyes! thank you for playing the game of Life. I understand your point, the whole situation went way to far and they took no concern regarding the children. I also agree with you that cults are real and destructive. But what do you think will happen if you draw your gun while the police comes barging in your house? It would only result in more pain and suffering. I am not sure what I would do. The government are paying hostage negotiators for sensible situations. Instead of sending people with guns first, why not sending a shrink and then have the guns wait outside just in case. It is hard for me not to wear my tinfoil hat and wanting to believe this escalation is somewhat wanted? Was there any clear indications in the past the use of overwhelming force would be used to confiscate family members? It is a sad situation. |