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Title: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 01, 2013, 05:49:38 PM
I'm selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5BTC each.
Post here if you are interested!

Cheers,

Notung


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: GravePhoenix on September 01, 2013, 06:00:30 PM
1 @ 2.5


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 01, 2013, 06:36:10 PM
1 reserved to GravePhoenix
3 left!!


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: User705 on September 01, 2013, 08:37:31 PM
I'd be interested in the other 3 @ 7BTC with friedcat or John k handling escrow/transfer.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 01, 2013, 09:20:02 PM
I'd be interested in the other 3 @ 7BTC with friedcat or John k handling escrow/transfer.

Thanks a lot for your offer, but at the moment I'm not selling them for less than 2.5. If you change your mind we can do escrow. Probably better with John K. as Friedcat is extremely busy.



Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: User705 on September 01, 2013, 09:35:18 PM
7.5 ok for escrow with John K and you covering escrow costs if there are any.  If accepted I will wait for PM from John K.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: TheAndy500 on September 01, 2013, 11:18:49 PM
7.5 ok for escrow with John K and you covering escrow costs if there are any.  If accepted I will wait for PM from John K.

Cheap cheap.  Why should he pay for escrow?


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: User705 on September 01, 2013, 11:37:55 PM
7.5 ok for escrow with John K and you covering escrow costs if there are any.  If accepted I will wait for PM from John K.

Cheap cheap.  Why should he pay for escrow?
Because if this is a scam I'm out the escrow fee. 


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: GravePhoenix on September 02, 2013, 12:31:05 AM
Thanks for the reserve. Awaiting PM


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: pheaonix on September 02, 2013, 02:10:23 AM
https://btct.co/security/ASICMINER-PT


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 02, 2013, 08:42:48 AM
You can check I got dividends for 4 shares at the following address:
1M23nPFX17pmvkQ2fKZspXfZgb4GSotXFi

You can look in this thread and find out that I purchased them

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269641.msg2962561#msg2962561

About escrow:
We can organize escrouw but with this price I'm not going to pay the fees. I think the fastest way is without escrow, but I understand if you don't trust me (I bought them using escrow). Please post in the thread that you want escrow and with how many shares as I got other PMs with people interested on them. In this way everyone can see how many are left.

In case you want to buy them now, please send me PM with your email address and your bitcoin address to receive the dividends. I will then confirm by email that I got the details and I will ask then to pay. As soon as I see a confirmation I will email/PM friedcat with the transfer details. I will reply you once the transfer is done and pay for the dividends of this week if the transfer wasn't done in time.

Currently:
1 share for GravePhoenix.
3 shares for User705 if he agrees with the terms.

If User705 doesn't agree, then watertech666 is the next in the list (got PM from this user)



Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: allyouracid on September 02, 2013, 12:17:19 PM
Hi,

I read quite a lot about AsicMiner, but that share-thingy is quite new to me. Can anyone provide some information regarding the eventual outcome of one share (how much is it actually and things like that?)?

Is it still possible to take part in this auction?

If my questions need to be more precise, please let me know.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 02, 2013, 01:35:00 PM
Hi,

I read quite a lot about AsicMiner, but that share thingy is quite new to me. Can anyone provide some information regarding the eventual outcome of one share (how much is it actually and things like that?)?

Is it still possible to take part in this auction?

If my questions need to be more precise, please let me know.

AsicMiner is a company that decided to mine with their own hardware and finance it through initial shares. They also sell some of their hardware. They send dividends per each share every week. You can check the dividends per share every Wednesday on asicminer.info. Part of the dividends comes from mining and the rest from hardware sales.

Very often part of the mined coins is saved to be reinvested in new hardware with the purpose of increasing the hashrate of asicminer and try to keep a constant ratio respect the whole network.

There is a thread here in bitcointalk about asicminer if you need more info.

I advice you to read more before making any decision. By then, if shares are still available, you are welcome. Otherwise there are often auctions here in bitcointalk to buy them or in other websites like btctc.co.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: User705 on September 02, 2013, 04:04:03 PM
I'd be interested in the other 3 @ 7BTC with friedcat or John k handling escrow/transfer.

Thanks a lot for your offer, but at the moment I'm not selling them for less than 2.5. If you change your mind we can do escrow. Probably better with John K. as Friedcat is extremely busy.


Here you want to do escrow and then less then a day later you don't.  Hmmm.  If you don't want to pay for it I will add the cost on top of the 7.5BTC.  Once John K PMs me I will transfer the coins with the extra fee.  Lets keep this in the thread so all can see.  That way there is no double selling of shares by email.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: User705 on September 02, 2013, 04:09:04 PM
All interested should click on the link provided by notung and realize he purchased these shares less then a month ago for 3.7BTC each then make your own conclusions regarding escrow.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: GravePhoenix on September 02, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
1 @ 2.5 with escrow through John K. Ill accept your terms of fees


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 02, 2013, 05:14:21 PM
I will contact John K. to do the Escrow. Final list:

1 share for GravePhoenix
3 shares for User705


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 02, 2013, 05:34:30 PM
I just sent John K. a private message. Waiting for him to reply via PM or in this thread.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: alwayzgame on September 03, 2013, 07:51:44 AM
what r the expected earnings of these shares??


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: kares on September 03, 2013, 12:29:19 PM
is this still up?


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 03, 2013, 02:17:06 PM
All of them are reserved. We are waiting to John.K for the escrow.



Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: User705 on September 04, 2013, 01:42:52 AM
Yep.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: User705 on September 06, 2013, 11:51:21 PM
So what is happening with this? 


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: GravePhoenix on September 07, 2013, 06:40:57 PM
Yes has John K PM anyone because I haven't heard anything?


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 08, 2013, 09:58:29 AM
I sent you PM. No reply from John K. I did PM him again but no answer yet. If you are still interested we can look for someone else to do escrow. Any preference?



Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: User705 on September 09, 2013, 09:45:31 PM
Why not PM friedcat that you are selling and if he confirms in this thread then I can just pay directly.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 10, 2013, 11:16:22 PM
I can do that. I was just going to bed now but I will do it tomorrow morning. I will copy you as well in the address. On the other hand I think that John is probably preparing the escrow... If I did not get any email from you tomorrow morning saying the opposite I will PM Friedcat.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: John (John K.) on September 11, 2013, 04:46:04 AM
PS: I used the same address for both users due to the amounts involved.

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Hash: SHA1

The escrow address for Notung and gravephoenix/user705's transaction would be:

1M1MetbjpmLWWjXUyK8sDmhX1pfmBY5ZV9

Please state and agree to the conditions (if item is received damaged, item lost with tracking, customs fee etc) beforehand.

If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on and please ship with tracking to prevent problems during delivery. GPG signing is not a requirement, and any verbal exchange in the form of private messages or posts on bitcointalk.org, or email is effective as a statement of condition.

The fine print:
This Contract is solely generated for the purpose of facilitating the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which refers to the pseudonyms used on bitcointalk.org.
The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of.  On the event that any problems arises, he will release the escrow to whichever party that presents him with the most convincing proof and/or after an open discussion with others or theymos. 
The verbal acceptance by both parties (or the failure to reject) and the sending of Bitcoins to the escrow address above constitutes the acceptance of the terms and conditions stated, and the activation of this Contract.

Please understand that I am assuming the risk of holding the escrowed Bitcoins, and I am using my own time to facilitate this transaction.   
I am imposing a fixed and nonrefundable fee of 1.5% for this transaction, pre-paid to 1NB1KFnFqnP3WSDZQrWV3pfmph5fWRyadz before the start of the escrow.

If I am offline when the BTC is received (please check on blockchain.info), please consider the escrow active (and go ahead with shipping etc) when the transaction gets 3 confirmations or more as the escrow address is unique for this transaction.
Also, please understand that I do not live in the forums, and may need up to 48 hours to release the escrow afterwards after confirmation is received. The average time for escrow releases is within 5 hours after the confirmation.

Thank you.

John (the escrow holder)
11 September 2013
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Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 11, 2013, 07:13:00 AM
The terms of the auction/escrow ar the following.

All the shares are direct AsicMiner shares with a fixed price of 2.5BTC each.

1 shares for GravePhoenix (2.5 BTC)
3 shares for User705 (7.5 BTC) + dividends 4th and 11th of September

Escrow expenses (1.5%) will be prepaid to John. K

So escrow fees for John K. are:
GravePhoenix: 0.0375 BTC
User705: 0.1125 BTC

Process:
1. GravePhoenix and User705 will send me a PM with their email addresses and a bitcoin address (for the dividends) so I can order the transfer to Friedcat.
2. I will send an email from my personal email address to User705 and GravePhoenix and wait for their reply. In this way we can verify that there are no mistakes.
3. GravePhoenix and User705 will pay to John K the fees and the shares. They will post in this thread the TXID, amount and say that they agree with the terms of the escrow.
4. Once that I see that all the payments are done to John (via TXID) I will send a PM/email to friedcat with the details of the transfer. John K. will receive the message as well.
5. After the the transfer is confirmed by friedcat and I get the payment from John K. I will will transfer the dividends from the 4th and 11th of September to GravePhoenix and User705.

Notung



Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 11, 2013, 07:15:00 AM
The terms of the auction/escrow ar the following.
3 shares for User705 (7.5 BTC) + dividends 4th and 11th of September

Sorry for the mistake! Obviously User705 will pay the 7.5 BTC and fees. The dividends from 4th and 11th I will transfer to him as indicated in the previous post.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 11, 2013, 08:03:50 AM
Ok, so as I got email from User705 and he wants to make sure that he gets the dividends I change the order of the last steps:

Quote
1. GravePhoenix and User705 will send me a PM with their email addresses and a bitcoin address (for the dividends) so I can order the transfer to Friedcat.
2. I will send an email from my personal email address to User705 and GravePhoenix and wait for their reply. In this way we can verify that there are no mistakes.
3. GravePhoenix and User705 will pay to John K the fees and the shares. They will post in this thread the TXID, amount and say that they agree with the terms of the escrow.
4. Once that I see that all the payments are done to John (via TXID) I will send a PM/email to friedcat with the details of the transfer. John K. will receive the message as well.
5. After the the transfer is confirmed by friedcat and I get the payment from John K. I will will transfer the dividends from the 4th and 11th of September to GravePhoenix and User705.


Updated to:

1. GravePhoenix and User705 will send me a PM with their email addresses and a bitcoin address (for the dividends) so I can order the transfer to Friedcat.
2. I will send an email from my personal email address to User705 and GravePhoenix and wait for their reply. In this way we can verify that there are no mistakes.
3. GravePhoenix and User705 will pay to John K the fees and the shares. They will post in this thread the TXID, amount and say that they agree with the terms of the escrow.
4. Once that I see that all the payments are done to John (via TXID) I will send a PM/email to friedcat with the details of the transfer. John K. will receive the message as well. At this point I will will transfer the dividends from the 4th and 11th of September to GravePhoenix and User705 (using the same bitcoin address that they sent me). I will post in this thread the TXID.
5. After the the transfer is confirmed John K will release the payment to a bitcoinaddres that I will post here.




Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 12, 2013, 06:42:32 AM
User705 did the tranfer already (by PM)

Quote
BTC sent bf1d653044a3c45cdbc26443091441a79b7e81ee78f1eceac79c36fa541641fa
Address for shares 1CpbhzNWi45m8RReyxTyk3ufEaRCyv7KDX

However he did include the fees in the transfer so John, please keep the difference when you will release the funds (7.6125 - 7.5) = 0.1125 BTC (Escrow fees).

Waiting for Gravephoenix reply.


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: GravePhoenix on September 14, 2013, 02:59:47 PM
John K. Fee TXID : 09ba4b2ce907cd53def304710d9682814abdf49ab4e35a323ae17b16ac33eacc

ASICMiner Share Payment: 476b8a9b165569a5345e8c00d1c9c9268b3c58aef5272eb36d18788f7ccd5e00

nontung and John K. I agree to the conditions previously stated

GravePhoenix

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Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 14, 2013, 09:29:21 PM
Hi!

I already sent the transfer request to friedcat and John K was included in the PM. I already transfer the dividends from the last two weeks. Let's wait for friedcat reply now.

I will keep you updated.

Notung


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 18, 2013, 11:47:19 AM
Quote
Hi all,

The transferring is done. Thanks.

Best regards,

friedcat

Finally I got the reply from FriedCat. John K. was also included in the recipients so he can confirm it. As the transfer is done you should get the dividends from today. Just let me know that everything is OK.

Thanks,

Notung



Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: User705 on September 18, 2013, 05:37:43 PM
When are past dividends being sent?


Title: Re: Selling 4 direct AsicMiner shares for 2.5 BTC
Post by: notung on September 18, 2013, 06:34:58 PM
When are past dividends being sent?

I already sent you the dividends of the last two weeks. Dividends of today you should get them today or tomorrow.