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this system is good, but have to be modified. if i say i post quality posts but who knows who will give Mertis, we can not beg on that.  thats biggest weakness.

sometimes we will stay member forever. but here bitcointalk alternatives will be born rapidly and move away

We need just to wait new Merit sources... I hope they will make the difference ;)

Try harder, there is not much to it really. With this merit system only what you can do is try to post more often quality content as much as you can per day which raises the chances of somebody noticing your post. Becase even for instance if I read your post and wanted to give you merit maybe I couldn't because I have 0 Smerit. I myself don't post that much posts per day and have gotten only 1 merit so far. Keep posting eventually you should start to receive more I hope.

System is relativly new and it needs time to prove that it works, it is lame sincewe will rank up slower but this is the fact we must face, you and I can't change it. There are many people who don't like the system but it's not our forum so we have to obbey the law and rules because they are there for a reason

Yes I am also waiting for updates that can improve this new system. There should be a renewal in order for a performance upgrade. But believe me because sometimes the understanding of the quality of posts is always different for everyone. So I do not think so much hope and keep doing my best.

The system is good, it doesn't require modification, it needs time so that users can cope up.
A little heads up, your posts aren't good enough to receive any merits, no offense. So your merits are just and fine.
See what theymos has got to say on this: -

I've been saying the system is flawed for a long time. These complaints will increase as time goes on because there is no incentive for merit sources to hand out merit. They gain nothing from it. Unless merit is tied into the user experience of a forum user (like how most upvoted posts appear at the top in every thread on reddit) the merit system is never going to take off. It is very obvious, really.

Re-evaluate yourself and check if you have done and post a merit worthy one. Merit system is about making quality posts so if you're not into that, then do whatever you just said, i only got "move away" so "move away". No one's stopping you, with you gone and other shit posters, bitcointalk would be great again.

I will go over your last 20 six posts now. If I think any post deserves Merit, I'll give it. If not, I'll tell you why.

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This thread. Basically you complain you can't beg for Merit, but you call it Mertis. This isn't something I would recommend anyone else to read.

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Post #186 on page 10 of a Spam Megathread. This may fit in your diary, it's not interesting to read.

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Post #680 on page 34 of a Spam Megathread, in very bad English.

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You created this thread "this is the time to buy bit coin". If you can't use the word "Bitcoin" in the topic title, you're clearly not putting any effort into it. Please lock it, before it becomes a Spam Megathread.

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Dear diary.

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You telling me what to do is not how a discussion thread works. It's a useless oneliner to increase your post count.

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I give up! I don't know what makes you think you post quality, but you don't.
Please read what Administrator theymos wrote yesterday:
(pugman beat me too it, I'll just leave it here to emphasize it)

Not quite sure what "good posts" of yours you're referring to but your post quality ranges from shit tier to barely mediocre. TBH, if your posts were just a tad worse, you'd probably get a temp ban for consistently low quality posts.

Also, remember: length does not always equal quality. Padded shit posts that contribute nothing (new) to the discussion are still shit posts - they're just wasting more of everyone's time as well.

I think it would be great if the users of the forum themselves put a "plus" for a good message

The system is just new as we all know. People can give any thoughts about its advantages and disadvantages and I think the admins here are seeing all about our reactions towards it. The only thing we can do is to wait for further updates because everything has room for improvement including this system.

What's important is that this system has raised awareness to everyone here in forum in making quality and helpful posts. It will definitely lessen the nonsensical or spam posts being made and will help the forum to be more productive in giving information and knowledge about every topics.

We don't need to beg for merits just because we have made quality posts. What's important is that everyone is going to be mindful now of what they post.

When everyone have adapted now in the new system, eventually receiving or giving merits for a deserving post might not be too hard because everyone have managed to evolved their old style of posting into quality and informative post.

That's what merit system is for actually but others would have to give you a +merit in order to gain one. You can see it on everyone's post in the upper right. If you want to give someone merits for a good message, then click it.
Of course merit cannot be begged. IMO the system is good as it is now and doesn't need modification. One will only stay as a member forever if the user does not do helpful posts.

Just because you think your post is merit worthy, does not mean we think so too.

For example if there was a negative merit option you'd get a bunch for starting this thread.

You have to work on your grammar first to make a good impression on any other alternative forum that you are going to join.

i am not here for any longer everyday so i can not really make several good post a day but at least i did my best. i dont know what they are thinking about my post.
however, you are right. the post quality will be different between me and other member, so i dont really hope to get merit. i just do as far as my knowledge.

Don't pay your attention on merits, it will let you down. Simply think about how to write constructive high quality threads, how to help others with your posts, how to change the forum by your tiny contribution. After all, merits will come (one day, two days, one week, one month, etc).

What the purpose of the forum ?
A place for discussion not a place for looking merit

If you just looking for the merit than you're not allow to be here.

Now that merit is a requirement to rank up, it is important. Different people are here for different reasons and we should not have an issue with it.

Ok, I'll bite. Why do you want to rank up?
What's the purpose of that? Ranks were made as an addition, something that most forums have to show that some users are more experienced and have been here for a long time. It of course adds some value to their posts, but like I said it's a secondary thing. The primary thing is always the content of your post, not your rank.

Now, since accounts have value and can be sold I'd assume it's that important reason you're talking about. Prove me wrong.

Off Topic and just to ask you about Spam Megathreads.

1. I love that term, It emphasises what is wrong with this forum, all threads are at a risk of becoming SPMT´s. Is that a new saying or something you invented? I am quite new on this forum so I do not have the complete history.

2. What would be the solution to all SPMT´s? Is that not locking them, or deleting them? Thus deleting the post history and every activity and merit earned by that SPMT´s.

That would be great - I replied in earnest to a few of those threads, and most likely some of those I have replied to has later become Spam Megathreads. But I would not mind - If it would rid some garbage away.

But in retrospect. Would "Goldmining" good threads(locking them)
and LocknDelete SPMT´s be a new step in the right direction?

Ps: would have merited you if I had any :)

Bro, your English is not that good, and admittedly I haven't looked at the rest of your posts, but I do think you might be overestimating your abilities (like a lot of people do).  

And remember, it's not supposed to be easy to earn merit points.   If it was, the whole system would have no reason to exist.   Get better with your grammar, write stuff that's interesting, know that quantity doesn't equal quality, and you'll earn merits eventually.
You are the stereotypical pajeet moron who just does not get what we're talking about.  The language we communicate in here is English.  In order to share knowledge (not really happening here), you have to be adept at the language you're writing.  A lot of people here are not.   A lot of people shouldn't be anywhere except in the local boards.

this bitcoin talk not a english class or expert to be english. this is website share knowledge not English

Sad but true even if you post some quality post in some threads and some helpful answer some users are just going to ignore you,
I just want to know if your friend gave you some merit for your post even if its not a quality post then what would happen to them and to my account,
I seen some of the users telling that their are some people who abused this forum by making a lot of alt-account or farm account .

Mostly everyone is using that term to those threads with 25 or more pages containing more shitposts than valid replies.
You might want to know what a typical shitpost is, those are the replies that was just solely based in the OP or the title without even reading the previous replies, making SPMT repetitive.

Those can be a solution but opening a new spam thread using an alt is too easy, but still, spammers might stop posting a reply if threads like those are constantly deleted.

   Yes maybe  you done good post and constractive , but not relevant to the topic.maybe thats 

   reason why you didn't get merit..

I agree we dont want to please for merit we have to wait at the right time,everyone of us must have to be patience especialy tne new members of this forum,.

I'm not sure who came up with this term, I saw it first used by DarkStar_ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935179.0)

Recently several of them got deleted, which leaded to many topics like: Disappearing posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2233225.0). Deleting posts doesn't remove Merit, but it's very unlikely to get them for Spam Megathreads anyway.

Deleting threads has a downside: the spam continues somewhere else. I'd rather have them stay in Off-topic than move to Bitcoin Technical Discussion for example.

That is the problem even though you know you posted a good quality post someone will not give a merit . Merit system prevent spamming ang low quality post but how about like you who does not gain any merit even you done posting a quality one . Just improve everyday maybe others dont see your post as good as you know .

What you said is reasonable. Since the rules are made, we will obey them!

Instead of wasting time complaining, try to improve your knowledge!

I also want to upgrade, to get merit, so I will try to make some high-quality posts!

But this merit system is supposed to stop or at least make posting in those sorts of threads worthless. People only used to post in the 'spam megathreads' because they could easily rank up by doing so. Now posting in them is pretty much futile because it will get them nowhere without merit and nobody is going to give merit out to the half-assed one liners that get posted in them.


Some do get locked or trashed but you would need several full time members of staff just to police the shit threads alone. Hopefully they will gradually decrease once people learn about the merit system which will force them to only make worthwhile contributions.

True. I've noticed most of posts that lower ranks make is similar to this example:

You're in the argument where people are talking about how good some car is and you jump in with the reply similar to "I like that car. It allows you to drive around", and that's completely unneeded reply since that car was expected to be able to drive you around and that example is something that I've first thought of when I was reading low rank member posts.

yeah, I must agree with you. You know what when I first heard about the Merit System, I am slightly disappointed since I am just a newbie when Merit was introduced. But later on, after some study and analization, I have found out that  this Merit system has a big help on the forum. Everyone now is creating a quality and informative post to rank up.

The admin has mentioned in a comment that next step might be stopping all the signature campaigns here. If that ever gets implemented, I think all these complains regarding merit points will fade away.