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Ok, this will be my 2nd rig. And I allocated a budget of 5,400USD

Here are my options:

Powercolor RX 570 4GB Red Devil = $290 * 13pcs
Zotac 1070TI Mini = $620 * 7pcs
Zotac 1080TI Mini = $920 * 5pcs

If you were in my position, what will you choose in terms of profitability and faster ROI? I dont mine specific coin, I just mine whatever most current profitable because I aim to get my capital first.

I currently have Powercolor RX570 4GB Red Devil*13 rig, drawing 1800W from the wall. And currently making .0345 ETH per day (based on profit calculators as pool's calculators are so wobbly).

Thanks.

Sadly those GPU's are mostly overpriced today and out of stocks, you should have a really good timings purchasing them, what we could tell about profitability and ROI are the past encountered experiences on mining, this is your second rig so I bet you have already an idea about profitability that is not constant.

those options above are available in our local, and is priced as I mentioned above. i already have the rx570, but unfortunately i never had a hand with nvidias, so i want to know your opinion if it is worth it to jump to nvidia than my current setup.

so my real question is, 13pcs rx570 or 7pcs 1070ti or 5pcs 1080ti?

thanks

Where is this market?? Prices especially for 570 are more than great for current prices.
Could you share the place you live and the market with us?

Get 1080Ti to ballance your hashpower.

Don't put all your eggs in the same basket: go for Nvidia  cards.

I'd pick nVidia over AMD these days as you will have tons of coins to mine. Both 1070 TI or 1080TI can yield better profit too. Cryptos are not only about btc or eth buddy, there's tons of choice out there where you can make profit from.

i will not quote each of your reply anymore

i understand you want to pick the less number nvidia than 13pcs rx570.

im really hesitant because i never had a chance to experience nvidia, given the price, i might regret in the future. but i can see that most of you choose nvidia. i might pull the trigger already.

up there somebody asking where am I, Im from the Philippines. there are still stores that sell near msrp, but I doubt you can get one from the store I am buying at, they only cater Filipinos and from the time being, there is only 8pcs available 1080TI. so by tomorrow, all of these will be out of stock already. same with other variants. I told the sales rep to hold the stocks for me atleast until tomorrow, thats why I asked here for a good deal before pulling the trigger.

shall i get the 5pcs 1080TI now than 13pcs rx570?

could you make and example please?

for example, RX570*13:
ETH: 390mhs
Neo: 8500khs
Cryptonight: 11500hs
Equihash: 4500h/s

how is 1080ti*5 or 1070*7 better?

thanks

1070ti imo.  Much easier to get going than 13 570s, more profitable, better resale value, more versatile.

1080ti is slightly more profitable if you know what you're doing.  But the high tdp isn't ideal for mining, and it's terrible on eth so you lose some versatility.

13 570s should pull about 1500W (possibly less with good cards and settings, could go as low as 1400W) from the wall on just eth if you're doing it right.  The fact that you're using 1800 tells me you should buy the 1070ti's.

if you choose to take amd, then you can mine very small number of coins :  eth + dual, cryptonight and equihash based coins and that's, basically  all
if you choose nd cards - like gtx1070ti - you can mine eth, equishash same as amd and quite a bunch of other algos with much faster speed then amd
I'd say go for gtx1070ti

so you sirs are saying i should get the 7pcs 1070ti?

very well, ill decide til tomorrow.

thanks for the advice.

The profitability numbers for 13 RX 570's are WAY higher than 7 1070ti or 5 1080ti. For mining, always get the most profit/$.

I have an 8 card 1070ti rig after very carefully analyzing profit and ROI. The 1080ti is 24% on average more profitable (at 33% more cost based on your numbers). I calculated the RX570 cards as 12% less profitable and their resale was about 40% less. Over Christmas I babysat a RX570 rig (12 cards) and it made about 25% less than my 1070ti rig and took more power too. I'm not sure why it was so much lower than my calculations, but the 1070ti remains the best choice right now. It just doesn't make sense to buy them for another 2-3 weeks until the first few major shipments of cards arrive from asia. Now I just wish I'd find a container full of those on the shoreline...

It's true that 13 RX 570's will produce about $600/month profit in eth under current conditions.  7x 1070 Ti will product about $350/month in profit on eth and about $500/month on zec (under current conditions).  But the 570's have poor resale value and cannot mine nearly as many coins profitably.  If you can pony up for one more 1070 Ti, you could pretty much match the 570's in total profitability anyway.

570, and yes, youll have more work to do. But thats all the fun!

For that price...dont think about it.

Lot more work.  And far less hedge/insurance against a shifting market.

OP already has 13 570s.  OP should diversify.

Depending on your electricity costs Nvidia might be the better choice if it's expensive.

If you want to use Nicehash or jump around with algos anyway, then as some people already said, the Nvidia cards will be much better since they're more versatile.

I think you also should take other costs into account, with 13 RX570 you will most likely need more PSUs and Mainboards etc, additional costs and risk factors where you might get problems. 7 1070tis should fit on a single rig, depending on the board you get. Also don't forget the 1070 is one (or the) most efficient card when it comes to hashes/watt.

The resale value, which was mentioned before, for the AMD cards is very low, they're also not as durable as Nvidia (from my experience) cards. A 1070ti is a pretty great card and will still be usable for people even in a few years once AMD will release a new series again, and Nvidia should release their new batch around May.

Nvidia is easier to setup, no custom BIOS or other fancy things needed, just plug in, install and go, I would go for the 1070ti, or the regular 1070, not sure if the 9gbps problems are fixed yet

Another fun point about the 1070ti cards. Buy the cheapest ones you can. Performance is identical comparing the most expensive founders edition super extra cool blower fan unit and 9 temp sensors with the most basic. I am running the zotac mini as it needs only 1 plug.

update. so unlucky, already sold out. so im all for 13*rx570

anyway, amd might be doing good for awhile because of the new claymore dual.

Yeah, gpus are very hard to buy lately (even with overpriced ones). Was reading some news updated, apparently AMD is trying really hard to produce more cards so that everyone is satisfied (gamers and miners)

Would have been much better for you if you could get the 1080`s (at least they would have more resale value in the future), since those 570`s are 4gb :(

Too bad.  You'll prob be fine though.  Those 13 570s should crank out 370 mhs on eth for quite a while, and xmr is also a backup option.

I guess if you're dualmining 1800W isn't terrible.  But the extra earnings just don't seem worth it.

actually i managed to tune it down at 1850-1900w dual mining, 1600w eth only.

before it was 31.5mhs per card, now 30.5mhs per card. i think its worth the little less hashrate for less 200w of the total wattage which was 1800w eth only before.

very well said.

anyway, the nvidia was still very expensive. and might drop its price when nvidia releases new variant soon. so that might be the best time to buy. i think this 570 will be worth for atleast about a year or 2 (i hope). anyway, im quite enjoying the versatility in terms of mods and settings.

thanks for your help sirs.

I run my 570s at about 29 mhs, but even less power usage, about 100W per card at the wall, plus ~40W system usage (mobo etc.).  Hash/joule is a little better.

mind sharing your settings sir?

thanks

My asus rog strix rx 570 4 GB read around 800 mV on the GPU in AB.  Core clock is 1088.  Memory is 1925.  -mvddc 850 in Claymore, although I don't know if that's even doing anything.  According to AB each GPU is using 70-72 W.

Those are some decent prices but still kinda inflated. I wouldn't pay over 550 for a 1070ti and over 750 for a 1080ti. The 570s aren't too bad though but recently I find myself looking for density over quantity ie. 1070tis, 1080s etc.

Well, you're losing $1 in revenue per day. Are you saving $1 in energy? You do if your electricity is above $0.20 per kWh.

Another way to look at it, is that by cutting 200W of power he now has the capacity to mine with 2 more cards, which would more than make up for the decreased hashrate.

Will he get those cards for free?

yes, im paying for $0.2 per kWh

is that worth the loss of hashrate?


you mean i can use 15 identical cards in 1 rig? ill upgrade to asus b250 mining expert if that so. but i never plan to use other OS, i just want windows 10. i believe, we're just limited at 13 gpu in windows 10.

regarding you message about undevolts, yes, i quite dont understand how it works. undervolt from claymore is not matching from gpu-z's reading.

I would vouch for nivdia as there a lot of coin opinions to mine with than amd but in your case you already having amd card which is focused on ethereum mining and i think it will better profit for you to maximize that hash power on eth and the 13 amd would be the best choice to do so