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Title: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: halfawake on September 15, 2013, 03:51:09 AM
I have some bitcoins with Coinlenders which I'll be taking out as soon as my CD matures in about a month.  It'll be about 4.9 bitcoins, and I'm looking for another place to invest them.  Anyone have any suggestions?


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Oleander on September 15, 2013, 04:19:00 AM
  • just-dice.com
  • bitcoinsports.eu
  • coinlenders.com (fee rebates, not CD)


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: WikileaksDude on September 15, 2013, 04:25:02 AM
ActiveMining shares.

As you can research, ActM is at the moment the only company that seems legit, and has known CEO.

check these news:

http://www.easic.com/vmc-uses-easic-to-achieve-24-756-ths-bitcoin-miner/

http://www.easic.com/easic-raises-23-5m-of-growth-capital/

Buy some shares here while they are cheap:

https://bitfunder.com/asset/AMC

thank me later.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 15, 2013, 04:27:33 AM
Buy and hold.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: halfawake on September 15, 2013, 04:43:25 AM
Buy and hold.

That's definitely part of my plan too.  I just thought I'd see what's out there and see if there's something else that's worth investing in besides just bitcoin itself.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: mgio on September 15, 2013, 05:47:32 AM
Neo and Bee is IPOing next week (see the thread in this forum) and it looks very interesting.

I will be investing at least a little bit.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Bitcycle on September 15, 2013, 06:13:25 AM


There's nothing that looks like a safe bet.  Everything right now is a gamble, even granddaddy AsicMiner.




Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Anotheranonlol on September 15, 2013, 06:15:43 AM
Buy and hold.

This, you will minimize your risk in this fashion.

If you want to invest, make sure to set aside some time to weigh up the risks. Do not blindly listen to others suggestions. Avoid documented scams such as Labcoin


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: mgio on September 15, 2013, 06:17:59 AM
If you are risk averse why don't you leave your coins in one of the many bitcoin bonds: ukyo.loan, graet.loan, xbond, etc.

They are about as safe as you can get (safer than coinlenders).


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Professor James Moriarty on September 15, 2013, 06:18:24 AM
 Buy BFL products , that seems like a safe bet as in' you will most definetly lose money' , I do guarentee you will not make your money back if you invest now.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: mccoyspace on September 15, 2013, 06:24:11 AM
If you are risk averse why don't you leave your coins in one of the many bitcoin bonds: ukyo.loan, graet.loan, xbond, etc.

They are about as safe as you can get (safer than coinlenders).

sorry, where is information on these? are these on bitfunder?
links please.... ty


[edit] ..... found great.loan and ukyo.loan. where is xbond?


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: halfawake on September 15, 2013, 06:52:37 AM
Neo and Bee is IPOing next week (see the thread in this forum) and it looks very interesting.

I will be investing at least a little bit.

Thank you - this is by far the most promising investment I've seen on here.  Not sure if I'll invest the full amount on there, but I'm seriously considering buying some, assuming it doesn't get insanely expensive by the time I'm out of Coinlenders.

If you are risk averse why don't you leave your coins in one of the many bitcoin bonds: ukyo.loan, graet.loan, xbond, etc.

They are about as safe as you can get (safer than coinlenders).

Definitely something to consider.  As far as risk averse - well, if I was totally risk averse, I wouldn't be in bitcoin since it's inherently risky, or at most I'd just buy the currency itself and wait for it to appreciate.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: halfawake on September 15, 2013, 06:55:31 AM
Buy BFL products , that seems like a safe bet as in' you will most definetly lose money' , I do guarentee you will not make your money back if you invest now.

Oh, if only BFL was a stock and there was way to short it.  You'd be able to make a fortune. 


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Professor James Moriarty on September 15, 2013, 07:00:59 AM

 ahahah if bfl had a stock , I would buy (I am not sure what its called but there was something like call option but it was short , so you kinda leverage the idea of bfl stock will drop) that :D

 I assume the stock will start at 50€ or something and go down less than a penny a share.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Rannasha on September 15, 2013, 07:09:20 AM

 ahahah if bfl had a stock , I would buy (I am not sure what its called but there was something like call option but it was short , so you kinda leverage the idea of bfl stock will drop) that :D


A put option.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Professor James Moriarty on September 15, 2013, 07:17:02 AM

 Yes that , If I had any possible way of putting a put option on bfl stocks at the time it was popular and everyone was getting one , I would sell every asset I had and invested in a put option , now I would be a very rich guy :D


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Vycid on September 15, 2013, 07:34:18 AM

 Yes that , If I had any possible way of putting a put option on bfl stocks at the time it was popular and everyone was getting one , I would sell every asset I had and invested in a put option , now I would be a very rich guy :D

At the time BFL was popular and put options on their hypothetical stock would have been cheap, you wouldn't have known to buy them.

Once BFL became universally reviled the price of the (again - hypothetical) put options would have skyrocketed, and you'd hardly get rich off of them.

The thing about establishing short positions via options is that you have to do it before the crowd even catches on to the possibility things might go wrong.

"When you’re one step ahead of the crowd you’re a genius. When you’re two steps ahead, you’re a crackpot."

You may remember me as the crackpot buying put options on AM when it was above 4 BTC a share. Here's my current crackpot thinking - don't buy ANY mining stocks. Not a single one. Not AM, not ActM, not Labcoin.

Oh, yeah - LetsDice is a scam. That's not an opinion, it is a fact.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: halfawake on September 15, 2013, 07:38:35 AM

 Yes that , If I had any possible way of putting a put option on bfl stocks at the time it was popular and everyone was getting one , I would sell every asset I had and invested in a put option , now I would be a very rich guy :D

At the time BFL was popular and put options on their hypothetical stock would have been cheap, you wouldn't have known to buy them.

Once BFL became universally reviled the price of the put options would have skyrocketed, and you'd hardly get rich off of them.

The thing about establishing short positions via options is that you have to do it before the crowd even catches on to the possibility things might go wrong.

"When you’re one step ahead of the crowd you’re a genius. When you’re two steps ahead, you’re a crackpot."

That's how it is with investing.  It's always easier to see this sort of thing in retrospect.  I'm still kicking myself for not buying Google's stock when it went IPO at $80.  It's only gone up by a factor of ten since then.  My reaction at the time was obviously way off, "Seems overpriced."  Oops. 


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Professor James Moriarty on September 15, 2013, 07:41:59 AM
 I knew bfl was a scam waaaaaay back when it was popular , the second I saw a 500 gh/s I said this wont work anytime soon and even if it does people will hate the delays. Like the second I saw it man :D

 I would definetly get rich via put options , I would definetly invest AT LEAST all bitcoins I had at the time to a put option agains bfl.

 edit: and I saw the bfl (hence my second of seeing it) wasnt recently , it was like maybe 6-7 months ago , a little earlier than the 266 bubble , so I dont know if bfl was already hated during february or not :D


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Progressive on September 15, 2013, 10:19:18 AM
DMS.SELLING


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: HeRetiK on September 15, 2013, 10:31:44 AM
That's how it is with investing.  It's always easier to see this sort of thing in retrospect.  I'm still kicking myself for not buying Google's stock when it went IPO at $80.  It's only gone up by a factor of ten since then.  My reaction at the time was obviously way off, "Seems overpriced."  Oops. 

I actually would have bought in but my reaction at the time was "Fuck me, I'm a highschool student with no money"


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: mgio on September 15, 2013, 06:54:48 PM
If you are risk averse why don't you leave your coins in one of the many bitcoin bonds: ukyo.loan, graet.loan, xbond, etc.

They are about as safe as you can get (safer than coinlenders).

sorry, where is information on these? are these on bitfunder?
links please.... ty


[edit] ..... found great.loan and ukyo.loan. where is xbond?

Xbond is on https://www.havelockinvestments.com

It's great because it is exchangeable for pre-IPO shares. That's why it's a little more expensive than the other bonds.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: halfawake on September 15, 2013, 07:56:36 PM
That's how it is with investing.  It's always easier to see this sort of thing in retrospect.  I'm still kicking myself for not buying Google's stock when it went IPO at $80.  It's only gone up by a factor of ten since then.  My reaction at the time was obviously way off, "Seems overpriced."  Oops. 

I actually would have bought in but my reaction at the time was "Fuck me, I'm a highschool student with no money"

You had better instincts than I did then, at least.  Oh well, I managed to at least buy a few shares of Tesla back when it was $30 earlier this year, so at least I'm not calling them all wrong.  I'd have bought way more than three shares had I known that it was go up by a factor of five in less than a year.  It seemed like a good investment, but I didn't know it was THAT good an investment.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: Vycid on September 15, 2013, 09:06:12 PM
That's how it is with investing.  It's always easier to see this sort of thing in retrospect.  I'm still kicking myself for not buying Google's stock when it went IPO at $80.  It's only gone up by a factor of ten since then.  My reaction at the time was obviously way off, "Seems overpriced."  Oops. 

I actually would have bought in but my reaction at the time was "Fuck me, I'm a highschool student with no money"

You had better instincts than I did then, at least.  Oh well, I managed to at least buy a few shares of Tesla back when it was $30 earlier this year, so at least I'm not calling them all wrong.  I'd have bought way more than three shares had I known that it was go up by a factor of five in less than a year.  It seemed like a good investment, but I didn't know it was THAT good an investment.

You bought 3 shares of a $30 stock?

You are getting assraped on broker commissions.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: halfawake on September 15, 2013, 09:17:26 PM
That's how it is with investing.  It's always easier to see this sort of thing in retrospect.  I'm still kicking myself for not buying Google's stock when it went IPO at $80.  It's only gone up by a factor of ten since then.  My reaction at the time was obviously way off, "Seems overpriced."  Oops. 

I actually would have bought in but my reaction at the time was "Fuck me, I'm a highschool student with no money"

You had better instincts than I did then, at least.  Oh well, I managed to at least buy a few shares of Tesla back when it was $30 earlier this year, so at least I'm not calling them all wrong.  I'd have bought way more than three shares had I known that it was go up by a factor of five in less than a year.  It seemed like a good investment, but I didn't know it was THAT good an investment.

You bought 3 shares of a $30 stock?

You are getting assraped on broker commissions.

Alas, you're quite right about this.  Thankfully, it went up enough that as long as it doesn't plummet before I end up selling, it'll more than make up for the ridiculous commissions.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: kololo on September 15, 2013, 11:15:56 PM
Casinobitco.in.

You can purchase it  from https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=CBTC   ;)


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: kololo on September 15, 2013, 11:58:07 PM
ACTM is a good choice now.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: WikileaksDude on September 16, 2013, 01:21:59 AM
ACTM is a good choice now.
People seem to think otherwise. (http://bitbet.us/bet/528/activemining-will-be-profitable-for-most-investors/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK)

well...

http://bitbet.us/bet/521/labcoins-own-130nm-design-sample-chips-will-be/


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: kleeck on September 16, 2013, 01:23:22 AM
ACTM is a good choice now.
People seem to think otherwise. (http://bitbet.us/bet/528/activemining-will-be-profitable-for-most-investors/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK)

Yes, all six of them.


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: N_S on September 16, 2013, 01:56:02 AM
What's your point?
The fact is that InactiveMining cheerleaders don't put money where their mouths are.
The truth is that they just hope to get out before the others when bad things happen.

Biggest eye roll ever  ::)


Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: damiano on September 16, 2013, 03:12:04 AM
bASIC Mining since this seems like your first investment.




Title: Re: Any suggestions for investments?
Post by: halfawake on September 16, 2013, 07:28:38 AM
bASIC Mining since this seems like your first investment.

I'm fairly experienced in the traditional investing world, but not as much with bitcoin investments.  It'll be my first outside of Coinlenders, yes.