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Title: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: chubbyTubby on February 16, 2018, 11:30:08 AM
Hello, I was trying to find a definitive answer to this by searching but I couldn't find what I was looking for so I would appreciate some help.

I'm looking for a game like just-dice, but JD has a 1% house edge. Does anybody know of a similar gambling site that offers a lower house edge and is also provably fair?  I believe the general consensus for dice games is that the house edge is set at 1% but there isn't any damage in asking. I remember quite a while ago that there was a dice site that offered a 0% edge (I dont think it was provably fair though) but I assume they are no longer in business or maybe my memory is playing tricks on me?

If you know of any casinos with a very low house edge, whether dice or not, I would be interested to know about them.

Thanks for your help.

EDIT: maybe this post belongs in Gambling Discussion? apologies if it does.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: TheQuin on February 16, 2018, 11:34:50 AM
Crypto-Games.net has dice with 0.8% house edge. I don't know if that is lowest available but it's pretty good. They also have faucets and Rainbot giving away coins in chat. Often the promotions and other giveaways counter the house edge. You have to decide which of those you prefer.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: chubbyTubby on February 16, 2018, 11:51:36 AM
Crypto-Games.net has dice with 0.8% house edge. I don't know if that is lowest available but it's pretty good. They also have faucets and Rainbot giving away coins in chat. Often the promotions and other giveaways counter the house edge. You have to decide which of those you prefer.


Ok thanks for letting me know about them, I'll check the site out.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: Samarkand on February 16, 2018, 11:55:50 AM
Crypto-Games.net has dice with 0.8% house edge. I don't know if that is lowest available but it's pretty good. ...


Safedice has a 0.5 % variable house edge:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0

However, it is variable, which means that if you want to bet really large you will be faced
with a higher house edge that can go up to several %. Given the fact that most players
place rather small wagers they will never encounter a higher house edge than 0.5 %.




Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: chubbyTubby on February 16, 2018, 12:00:46 PM
I enjoyed playing bustabit when it was possible to beat the house edge by sniping out the bonus, but that feature was removed and so I stopped playing. It's actually a shame that the game was changed because I believe the ability to beat the house edge was its selling point.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: mracni on February 16, 2018, 09:48:15 PM
Hi, I am the owner of BtcGames4u.com. We are offering house edge of 0.5%.

Our thread on bitcointalk.org is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2336887.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2336887.0)
Site url: https://www.btcgames4u.com (https://www.btcgames4u.com)

We are Moneypot site.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: game-protect on February 16, 2018, 09:51:29 PM
The publicly proven Bitcasino scam (https://game-protect.com/bitcasino-sportsbet-cashback/) has theoretically a 0% house edge, because they have to give you all your losses back, because they operate illegal without a valid license.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: BTCevo on February 17, 2018, 05:39:58 AM
Crypto-Games.net has dice with 0.8% house edge. I don't know if that is lowest available but it's pretty good. They also have faucets and Rainbot giving away coins in chat. Often the promotions and other giveaways counter the house edge. You have to decide which of those you prefer.


I do not think that crypto-games has that low house edge unless for event. Or may be you should be on particular rank to get those. For usual member, there is average for every site and that is around 1%, no less or even higher. Nowadays many sites offer that rainbot to make the chat lively so it does not really have huge impact

OP, why do you care about house edge, if you are not playing in a long run then house edge does not really matter because it is effective only for autobot roller which they runs their bot daily


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: TheQuin on February 17, 2018, 05:50:33 AM
Crypto-Games.net has dice with 0.8% house edge. I don't know if that is lowest available but it's pretty good. They also have faucets and Rainbot giving away coins in chat. Often the promotions and other giveaways counter the house edge. You have to decide which of those you prefer.


I do not think that crypto-games has that low house edge unless for event. Or may be you should be on particular rank to get those. ......

I don't think it has a 0.8% house edge, I know it has.

https://www.crypto-games.net/faq
Quote
What is the house edge?

Dice has a house edge of 0.8%
Slot has a house edge of 1.97%
Blackjack has a house edge of 1.253%
Lottery doesn't have a house edge
Roulette has a house edge of 2.7%
Video Poker - Jacks or Better has a house edge of 2.11%
Video Poker - Tens or Better has a house edge of 2.08%
Video Poker - Bonus poker has a house edge of 2.09%
Plinko - Green ball has a house edge of 1.63%
Plinko - Red ball has a house edge of 1.84%
Plinko - Blue ball has a house edge of 1.52%
Plinko - Yellow ball has a house edge of 1.91%


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: marlboroza on February 17, 2018, 10:08:24 AM
OP read this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2097255.0

The publicly proven Bitcasino scam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254) has theoretically a 0% house edge, because they have to give you all your losses back, because they operate illegal without a valid license.
I can't find site you are referring to in your link.

It links me to unknown shady service which begs for money.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: Patatas on February 17, 2018, 11:51:38 AM
Crypto-Games.net has dice with 0.8% house edge. I don't know if that is lowest available but it's pretty good. They also have faucets and Rainbot giving away coins in chat. Often the promotions and other giveaways counter the house edge. You have to decide which of those you prefer.

House edge is not only the variable one should consider while betting on a website.Casino's reputation,stand in the community and trust should also be considered before blindly depositing money.Some websites can lure you with zero percent house-edge and run scams behind the screen.
Indeed Crypto-games.net is the most trusted of them all.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: BTCevo on February 18, 2018, 03:26:42 AM
Crypto-Games.net has dice with 0.8% house edge. I don't know if that is lowest available but it's pretty good. They also have faucets and Rainbot giving away coins in chat. Often the promotions and other giveaways counter the house edge. You have to decide which of those you prefer.

House edge is not only the variable one should consider while betting on a website.Casino's reputation,stand in the community and trust should also be considered before blindly depositing money.Some websites can lure you with zero percent house-edge and run scams behind the screen.
Indeed Crypto-games.net is the most trusted of them all.

I agree with you just not because of you are wearing their signature but on every site, this thing will be the same, that is why I am saying that house edge does not really matter as long as they can keep maintaining their site and their player good enough then players do not even bother spend some money on your site

Anyway, TheQuin, thanks for giving the details about the house edge on crypto-games but actually 0.2% difference does not make a really big deal


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: Lionidas on February 18, 2018, 04:06:28 AM
There was one I was just looking at in the last hour that promoted it having a 0.7% house edge which I found low. Too even allowing it to be below 1% even to be possible but in seeing this thread, I know there are alot more that offer less than that now. ;)


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: TheQuin on February 18, 2018, 06:09:07 AM
Crypto-Games.net has dice with 0.8% house edge. I don't know if that is lowest available but it's pretty good. They also have faucets and Rainbot giving away coins in chat. Often the promotions and other giveaways counter the house edge. You have to decide which of those you prefer.

.......

Anyway, TheQuin, thanks for giving the details about the house edge on crypto-games but actually 0.2% difference does not make a really big deal

I wasn't saying it was a big deal I was just trying to answer the OP's question. It was a bit odd that you disputed the figure I gave.

As I said in my first post promotions etc. often offset the house edge. Over in the Freebitco.in thread there are countless posts telling everyone not to gamble there because of the high house edge. That fails to acknowledge that they are getting lottery tickets, reward points, 50% referral commission, 4% interest on balances and the faucet paid for out of that. You have to weigh the whole package up to make a comparison.

Crypto-Games is a very competitive package. 0.8% House Edge, Faucet, Rainbot, 25% of house edge referral commision and progressive jackpot on dice (currently 3.25BTC).
 


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: Bitinity on February 18, 2018, 09:14:28 AM
In case of "lowest" house edge then I can say that 999dice has the lowest one because their HE is 0.1% but I would not recommend you to put your money on that site because there are many scam accusations against 999dice.
There were also some moneypot apps that has variable house edge starting from 0.1% as well but I'm not really sure if the apps are still alive or not.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: adaseb on February 18, 2018, 09:27:38 PM
In case of "lowest" house edge then I can say that 999dice has the lowest one because their HE is 0.1% but I would not recommend you to put your money on that site because there are many scam accusations against 999dice.
There were also some moneypot apps that has variable house edge starting from 0.1% as well but I'm not really sure if the apps are still alive or not.

Well it should be common sense then. They have a crazy low house edge and how do they stay in business? They must be scamming people.

Unless the site got tons of traffic like PD they can't afford such a low house edge.

Usually there are promos and they have 0% house edge for like a day or week or so. Those are usually legit but they are temporarily.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: XRPBust on February 18, 2018, 10:57:20 PM
We offer a 0-1% house edge and our site is provably fair :) You can read about how the house edge works here https://www.xrpbust.com/faq#odds


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: chubbyTubby on February 19, 2018, 09:54:38 AM
In case of "lowest" house edge then I can say that 999dice has the lowest one because their HE is 0.1% but I would not recommend you to put your money on that site because there are many scam accusations against 999dice.
There were also some moneypot apps that has variable house edge starting from 0.1% as well but I'm not really sure if the apps are still alive or not.
999Dice, yeah this the the dice site I remember from all those years ago. Funny thing is this member would always enter into the JD chat and spam the website link.

We offer a 0-1% house edge and our site is provably fair :) You can read about how the house edge works here https://www.xrpbust.com/faq#odds
Is this the same code as the old bustabit? I'll read the faq later.

Ill check out Crypto-Games.net because I didn't know about this site.

Thanks for the replies.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: eternalgloom on February 19, 2018, 12:06:03 PM
Crypto-Games.net has dice with 0.8% house edge. I don't know if that is lowest available but it's pretty good. They also have faucets and Rainbot giving away coins in chat. Often the promotions and other giveaways counter the house edge. You have to decide which of those you prefer.

.......

Anyway, TheQuin, thanks for giving the details about the house edge on crypto-games but actually 0.2% difference does not make a really big deal

I wasn't saying it was a big deal I was just trying to answer the OP's question. It was a bit odd that you disputed the figure I gave.

As I said in my first post promotions etc. often offset the house edge. Over in the Freebitco.in thread there are countless posts telling everyone not to gamble there because of the high house edge. That fails to acknowledge that they are getting lottery tickets, reward points, 50% referral commission, 4% interest on balances and the faucet paid for out of that. You have to weigh the whole package up to make a comparison.

Crypto-Games is a very competitive package. 0.8% House Edge, Faucet, Rainbot, 25% of house edge referral commision and progressive jackpot on dice (currently 3.25BTC).
 

Well, for freebitco.in it would be a bad idea to actually gamble there, especially when you want to deposit to gamble on their dice game.
All those extra's they're offering are useless if you just want to play the dice game.

In those cases it's better to just deposit to Crypto-Games for example. Also compare the freebies of freebitco.in to all the promotions on CG and I'd say the ones on CG are better.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: TheQuin on February 19, 2018, 12:14:43 PM
Well, for freebitco.in it would be a bad idea to actually gamble there, especially when you want to deposit to gamble on their dice game.
All those extra's they're offering are useless if you just want to play the dice game.

Actually, those reward points and lottery tickets they give you for every 500 sats wagered are not useless, they have value. That's the point I'm making here, a straight comparison of sites can't be done by looking at the house edge alone.

In those cases it's better to just deposit to Crypto-Games for example. Also compare the freebies of freebitco.in to all the promotions on CG and I'd say the ones on CG are better.

I play on both sites and I prefer CGN for another reason. I love playing roulette. It's about entertainment and house edge doesn't really impact on that.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: XRPBust on February 19, 2018, 02:24:15 PM
In case of "lowest" house edge then I can say that 999dice has the lowest one because their HE is 0.1% but I would not recommend you to put your money on that site because there are many scam accusations against 999dice.
There were also some moneypot apps that has variable house edge starting from 0.1% as well but I'm not really sure if the apps are still alive or not.
999Dice, yeah this the the dice site I remember from all those years ago. Funny thing is this member would always enter into the JD chat and spam the website link.

We offer a 0-1% house edge and our site is provably fair :) You can read about how the house edge works here https://www.xrpbust.com/faq#odds
Is this the same code as the old bustabit? I'll read the faq later.

Ill check out Crypto-Games.net because I didn't know about this site.

Thanks for the replies.
Yes its the same code with a few vulnerabilities fixed and the site runs on the Ripple blockchain instead of the Bitcoin blockchain.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: veleten on February 20, 2018, 09:00:10 AM
In case of "lowest" house edge then I can say that 999dice has the lowest one because their HE is 0.1% but I would not recommend you to put your money on that site because there are many scam accusations against 999dice.
There were also some moneypot apps that has variable house edge starting from 0.1% as well but I'm not really sure if the apps are still alive or not.

999dice is not even worth mentioning as a legit dice site- it is an obvious scam,multiple accusations and the shady verifier
and 0.1% HE is too low to be true anyways
among the trusted casinos, crypto-games offer low 0.8% HE but on dice only,the usual HE is 1%
bitsler,bitvest,primedice,yolodice,kingdice,duckdice etc. all operate with 1 % HE,it is the industrie's standard nowadays
some moneypot apps offer lower HE,but I,myself,prefer not to gamble there
you should always check if the casino you are planning to play at is legit and read about it first,low HE is good
but to be able to get your winnings after is much better



Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: eternalgloom on February 20, 2018, 11:23:51 AM
Well, for freebitco.in it would be a bad idea to actually gamble there, especially when you want to deposit to gamble on their dice game.
All those extra's they're offering are useless if you just want to play the dice game.

Actually, those reward points and lottery tickets they give you for every 500 sats wagered are not useless, they have value. That's the point I'm making here, a straight comparison of sites can't be done by looking at the house edge alone.

In those cases it's better to just deposit to Crypto-Games for example. Also compare the freebies of freebitco.in to all the promotions on CG and I'd say the ones on CG are better.

I play on both sites and I prefer CGN for another reason. I love playing roulette. It's about entertainment and house edge doesn't really impact on that.


Totally forgot that you actually get points for playing dice on freebitco.in, you're right that it does add some additional value.

Same here, also love playing roulette and I really like the one on CG. Very fast paced and no annoying graphics, I dislike the graphics on most roulette wheels in traditional online casino's (damn flash).


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: sofi@ on February 21, 2018, 12:40:32 AM
Hello, I was trying to find a definitive answer to this by searching but I couldn't find what I was looking for so I would appreciate some help.

I'm looking for a game like just-dice, but JD has a 1% house edge. Does anybody know of a similar gambling site that offers a lower house edge and is also provably fair?  I believe the general consensus for dice games is that the house edge is set at 1% but there isn't any damage in asking. I remember quite a while ago that there was a dice site that offered a 0% edge (I dont think it was provably fair though) but I assume they are no longer in business or maybe my memory is playing tricks on me?

If you know of any casinos with a very low house edge, whether dice or not, I would be interested to know about them.

Thanks for your help.

EDIT: maybe this post belongs in Gambling Discussion? apologies if it does.
You can try bustadice, it has 1% house edge that actually fits your ideal dice-game site. I've been playing this for couple of months now and I could say that this is a good site with probably fair policy, I enjoy it a lot and I also like the of instant withdrawal with lower fees of course. Try to click my link and I hope you enjoy this site.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: ajmapalo22 on February 21, 2018, 02:25:34 AM
I don't know other gambling site but I am playing in freebitco.in and primedice, they are both good site with faucet if you want to try their dice game. I enjoy it because I win most of the time though I don't use high capital still I am contented with my outcome whenever I play dice game.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: BTCevo on February 21, 2018, 04:04:37 PM
I don't know other gambling site but I am playing in freebitco.in and primedice, they are both good site with faucet if you want to try their dice game. I enjoy it because I win most of the time though I don't use high capital still I am contented with my outcome whenever I play dice game.

I believe this is about house edge but yet you give the really highest house edge site and that is freebitco.in, they are really having well known site and very trusted site but with some huge house edge which is 5% that turn you out into losing for longer run, compare to 1% house edge, this is not worth to be played at. You are not suppose to suggest freebitco.in here because most people will only earn from their faucet and try to hit the lottery


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: chubbyTubby on February 21, 2018, 04:04:46 PM
You can try bustadice, it has 1% house edge that actually fits your ideal dice-game site. I've been playing this for couple of months now and I could say that this is a good site with probably fair policy, I enjoy it a lot and I also like the of instant withdrawal with lower fees of course. Try to click my link and I hope you enjoy this site.

I used to play bustabit and enjoyed it until the bonuses were removed. It was the only gambling site I knew of that actually gave me a house edge but I don't play anymore.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on February 21, 2018, 06:37:45 PM
In case of "lowest" house edge then I can say that 999dice has the lowest one because their HE is 0.1% but I would not recommend you to put your money on that site because there are many scam accusations against 999dice.
There were also some moneypot apps that has variable house edge starting from 0.1% as well but I'm not really sure if the apps are still alive or not.

Well it should be common sense then. They have a crazy low house edge and how do they stay in business? They must be scamming people.

Unless the site got tons of traffic like PD they can't afford such a low house edge.

Usually there are promos and they have 0% house edge for like a day or week or so. Those are usually legit but they are temporarily.
There is nothing wrong with looking for a small house edge that is something we should do since the smaller the house edge the longer we can keep playing but at the same time come common sense needs to be applied, the house edge is there because the servers, the website design and the support crew do not work for free and the owner needs profits, so do not risk being scammed just because a casino has a lower house edge.


Title: Re: Lowest House Edge?
Post by: milewilda on February 21, 2018, 09:23:47 PM
I don't know other gambling site but I am playing in freebitco.in and primedice, they are both good site with faucet if you want to try their dice game. I enjoy it because I win most of the time though I don't use high capital still I am contented with my outcome whenever I play dice game.

I believe this is about house edge but yet you give the really highest house edge site and that is freebitco.in, they are really having well known site and very trusted site but with some huge house edge which is 5% that turn you out into losing for longer run, compare to 1% house edge, this is not worth to be played at. You are not suppose to suggest freebitco.in here because most people will only earn from their faucet and try to hit the lottery
His suggestion about freebitco.in do signifies that he dont any have idea on whats house edge is which the only thing matters on his mind that he can able to get good amounts of faucets and then play out into the site and since we are talking about house edge they do really have the highest on hi-lo field which it reaches up to 5%.Imagine how many folds higher into traditional dice and other related sites which is playing aroung 0.5-1% house edge.