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Title: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: TACryptoo on February 22, 2018, 05:15:04 PM
Hi guys, i did buy xspec at around 4,4dollar. Now the price is around 1,2!! Shoud i buy more now or should i invest in deep onion ? I read some article said xspec is scam. What do you think about it ? Is deep onion a better alternative ?


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: 5ensei on February 22, 2018, 05:21:13 PM
Both are low market cap coins with good privacy technology. If you can hodl then both are worth investing in for high 10x gains. Other privacy coins have already gone up, so best to stick with these two and patiently wait for the pump. It is hard to predict when it will happen so keeping them will prevent missing out. Onions are doing an airdrop so good to start there or do a split investment favouring onions.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: HiatusGG on February 22, 2018, 05:25:27 PM
I think, both spectracoin and deep onion coins are scam and low marketcap. You should stay away from these coins and go to invest to top10 coins.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: TACryptoo on February 22, 2018, 05:29:20 PM
I think, both spectracoin and deep onion coins are scam and low marketcap. You should stay away from these coins and go to invest to top10 coins.

the margin of profit is low by a high marketcap . that is the reason why i choose for a low marketcap coin -> higher margin of profit


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: ilnick on February 22, 2018, 07:03:15 PM
Even if both coins are scam, these can be to hold. When the next big rise of the markets is, these coins will also ups.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Poink on February 22, 2018, 07:04:26 PM
I invested a little on XSPEC.  

Another promising anon coin I recently invested on is PIVX.  I also bought a little of AEON.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Dan123456 on February 22, 2018, 07:11:31 PM
Hi guys, i did buy xspec at around 4,4dollar. Now the price is around 1,2!! Shoud i buy more now or should i invest in deep onion ? I read some article said xspec is scam. What do you think about it ? Is deep onion a better alternative ?

Neither are scams, both have potential. If you want a comparison, deep onion dropped from $12 to like $3, xspec went from $6 to $1.20

Most coins have dropped, moving from coin to coin because one dropped will nearly always lose you money.
Also, look at satoshi value more than dollar value. Satoshi matters more for long term hold, dollar matters more for short term. Both coins are long term 12-24 month hodls.

My advice is hodl.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: ruffles2016 on February 22, 2018, 07:29:39 PM
I don't think spec is scam, deeponion might be scam. Anyways I was planning to invest spectre before seeing this post. I think it has room to grow. Deeponion is problematic cause of its airdrop process. We will see in future.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: TACryptoo on February 22, 2018, 07:36:31 PM
I don't think spec is scam, deeponion might be scam. Anyways I was planning to invest spectre before seeing this post. I think it has room to grow. Deeponion is problematic cause of its airdrop process. We will see in future.

buying now ? or wait for further  price drop  ?


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Dan123456 on February 22, 2018, 07:37:31 PM
I don't think spec is scam, deeponion might be scam. Anyways I was planning to invest spectre before seeing this post. I think it has room to grow. Deeponion is problematic cause of its airdrop process. We will see in future.

I think deep onion has more unknowns, but roadmap seems ok, whereas xspec has done work already to be a functioning.privacy coin.

If you had either I would say hodl,
if you were buying one, I guess xspec, as it has fallen further.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: mycryptostuff on February 22, 2018, 08:25:45 PM
I've never seen someone saying XSPEC is scam and also bring a logical argument; keep in mind sometimes the most vocal users are also the least knowledgeable, some these people bought at ATH hoping for a quick buck and panicked when the price dropped so now they're venting out.

XSPEC with the existing tech is already one of the best privacy coins, if they keep their promise and develop the project further with new stuff it will be a powerhouse for privacy coins for sure, for now price will stay low because the coin is not listed on big exchanges yet, that does not make the coin bad, it just needs time to get listed on other exchanges and for more people to know about it - it's still a new project in this ocean of cryptocoins.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Dutchyyy on February 22, 2018, 09:26:13 PM
Hi guys, i did buy xspec at around 4,4dollar. Now the price is around 1,2!! Shoud i buy more now or should i invest in deep onion ? I read some article said xspec is scam. What do you think about it ? Is deep onion a better alternative ?

My opinion on Onion is that this is not a real private coin.

But now they will change that - Onion are planning to introduce Stealth addresses in few days. So my guess is that Onion is currently the better choice.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Dan123456 on February 22, 2018, 10:57:45 PM
I would just hodl what you have. Even with Stealth address and tor it makes deep onion the same as xvg. Still needs ring sigs to be able to claim it is a privacy coin. While hitting targets is good, missing them will be worse for the price.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Teraboy on February 22, 2018, 11:13:57 PM
Hi guys, i did buy xspec at around 4,4dollar. Now the price is around 1,2!! Shoud i buy more now or should i invest in deep onion ? I read some article said xspec is scam. What do you think about it ? Is deep onion a better alternative ?
Rather than deeponion and i was interested in spectre. Remember more than 90% of coin was holding by deeponion developer. Some people are complaining about there are some people are holding so many spectrecoin. it caused by the ico participant is very small compared with another project. The developer only raised no more than 400 eth and some bitcoin. But they are still developing the platform. It looks better than deeponion.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Gabmot on February 22, 2018, 11:18:13 PM
Both are good actually, but I will always prefer deeponion anytime, day. Although the price may be too relatively low, but I am optimistic for a change in fortune for its price. I will advise holding for anyone that has it, pay back time is almost here.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: theoneandonlyaceman on February 22, 2018, 11:22:39 PM
I prefer deep onion over xspec, but i prefer aeon over both ;-)


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: xcbjsuw on February 23, 2018, 02:45:25 AM
Hi guys, i did buy xspec at around 4,4dollar. Now the price is around 1,2!! Shoud i buy more now or should i invest in deep onion ? I read some article said xspec is scam. What do you think about it ? Is deep onion a better alternative ?


If I prefer to invest into coins that have been top in marketcap. Myself prefer to ETH, for the long term.

I think, both spectracoin and deep onion coins are scam and low marketcap. You should stay away from these coins and go to invest to top10 coins.


Is it true what you say? I think DeepOnion is better ??


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: green547 on February 23, 2018, 02:49:17 AM
Xspec and onion are both scams, devs dumped massive amounts, stay far away if you don't want to lose money.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: mummybtc on February 23, 2018, 03:55:37 AM
I will advice you not to touch any of the coins, I won't call them bith scam they way people have been calling them, but the main concern I have with both is that I don't see their use case of being adopted by people, there is no need to creating something if no one would eventually use it, it is just specualtion that drives the price up


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Thefrolly on February 23, 2018, 05:33:27 AM
Deeponion is definitely better than Spectre. They have same features like they are both privacy coins, they are both running on TOR network. But deeponion is one step ahead. It also has DeepVault which is a unique feature.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Yuuto on February 23, 2018, 06:44:08 AM
Hi guys, i did buy xspec at around 4,4dollar. Now the price is around 1,2!! Shoud i buy more now or should i invest in deep onion ? I read some article said xspec is scam. What do you think about it ? Is deep onion a better alternative ?

If you actually want to invest in anonymous projects, neither of them are going to be your best choice.

At best, they are going to be decent coins that will only yield you money during a pump and dump. While Monero actually has a sizable community with a great amount of following, which would mean that they are much better as a long term investment with a lot less volatility. Historically, monero has always floated around 0.01-0.03.

Deeponion has also been accused of being a copy paste project, so I would actually rather hold onto my specter.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Kallipso on February 23, 2018, 06:45:10 AM
Hi guys, i did buy xspec at around 4,4dollar. Now the price is around 1,2!! Shoud i buy more now or should i invest in deep onion ? I read some article said xspec is scam. What do you think about it ? Is deep onion a better alternative ?
Spectrecoin is completely uninteresting for investment, but I would have thought about ONION, there really are trying to make it much better and more attractive. And I would give a forecast about overcoming the $ 10 mark for it at the end of the year.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: vastmast on February 23, 2018, 07:06:58 AM
I trust Spectrecoin very much. We were in a big crash and all altcoins cost so much. But in the summer months prices will rise.
I would suggest you wait patiently. Deeponion does not give me any confidence and I have never invested :)


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Dan123456 on February 23, 2018, 07:31:39 AM
I'm new to bitcointalk, but these posts are so nothing and vague, and at worst misleading. And deep onion and spectrecoin are definately at different stages of development.

I mean I researched before I bought my coins, even the 1-2 sat gamble coins.

Deep onion is not a privacy coin yet, it simply runs on the tor network. No one can say that deeponion is a better privacy coin than any project that has stealth address, ring sigs and tor. When it does it could be a good coin, until then I am wary of what I read and where I read about deeponion, because of the airdrops and incentives the project offers to "dominate" forums with deeponion talk.

Spectrecoin is from what I've research, a solid project that had a very bumpy start, but is now on track. The team is small, but while the coin was forked from SDC in late 2016, the Dev team have only really got going around July 2017 team due to illness/retirement of the old lead developer. Their price is not as hyped or artificial as deeponion, mainly because they marketing is so limited.

But I hold spectrecoin, and three recent articles about spectrecoin from three separate news outlets:

Explaining what spectrecoin is:
investinblockchain website /what-is-spectrecoin (edit: filter didn't like the blockchain part of link, search in google?)
Explaining what the point of privacy coins are:
https://bravenewcoin.com/news/dash-monero-zcash-and-more-anonymous-cryptocurrencies-explained/
^^ this mentions xspec but not deeponion, read into that what you want.
An article highlighting that it has a use case as a privacy coin:
https://darkwebnews.com/cryptocurrency/spectrecoin/
^^xspec is proof of stake so fees are small compared to monero for example.


I think people need to work harder to post more informed replies than, it's a scam, I bought X coin instead etc.

I have researched both, and went for xspec, I therefore know more about it, so can likely be considered biased, but I have linked to some external sources.






Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Bowtiesarecool on February 23, 2018, 10:55:43 AM
I'm new to bitcointalk, but these posts are so nothing and vague, and at worst misleading. And deep onion and spectrecoin are definately at different stages of development.

I mean I researched before I bought my coins, even the 1-2 sat gamble coins.

Deep onion is not a privacy coin yet, it simply runs on the tor network. No one can say that deeponion is a better privacy coin than any project that has stealth address, ring sigs and tor. When it does it could be a good coin, until then I am wary of what I read and where I read about deeponion, because of the airdrops and incentives the project offers to "dominate" forums with deeponion talk.

Spectrecoin is from what I've research, a solid project that had a very bumpy start, but is now on track. The team is small, but while the coin was forked from SDC in late 2016, the Dev team have only really got going around July 2017 team due to illness/retirement of the old lead developer. Their price is not as hyped or artificial as deeponion, mainly because they marketing is so limited.

But I hold spectrecoin, and three recent articles about spectrecoin from three separate news outlets:

Explaining what spectrecoin is:
investinblockchain website /what-is-spectrecoin (edit: filter didn't like the blockchain part of link, search in google?)
Explaining what the point of privacy coins are:
https://bravenewcoin.com/news/dash-monero-zcash-and-more-anonymous-cryptocurrencies-explained/
^^ this mentions xspec but not deeponion, read into that what you want.
An article highlighting that it has a use case as a privacy coin:
https://darkwebnews.com/cryptocurrency/spectrecoin/
^^xspec is proof of stake so fees are small compared to monero for example.


I think people need to work harder to post more informed replies than, it's a scam, I bought X coin instead etc.

I have researched both, and went for xspec, I therefore know more about it, so can likely be considered biased, but I have linked to some external sources.

Can't fault your logic. I'm actually impressed. If only the majority of BTT community could be like you.
I hold some XSPEC and Onions too, but if I had to choose, I'll XSPEC anyday, anytime - just take a look at their roadmap. The team knows what it's up against and how it will go up against those challenges.  Deep Onion on the other hand - TOR... and it's not like TOR is unbreachable


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Julen on February 23, 2018, 11:18:16 AM
Both coins scare me of as there is a certain (unjustified?) hype level arround both.  People mindlessly spamming on this forum you should buy either without giving a valid reason for doing so.

I had a little money in Onion but decided to get out as the coin keeps going down and i expect a further dump after the upcoming airdrop.

As i did want a privacy coin in my portfolio i went back to NAV.  A coin and team that have been around for quite some time and that have a promising roadmap for 2018.  it's marketcap is already a tad higher than either Xspec or Onion, but at least i'm sure it's a legit project with plenty of room to grow still. dyor though...


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: wildflower18 on February 23, 2018, 11:20:33 AM
I trust Spectrecoin very much. We were in a big crash and all altcoins cost so much. But in the summer months prices will rise.
I would suggest you wait patiently. Deeponion does not give me any confidence and I have never invested :)
All markets are in down these days but to be wise better invest in these two deeponion and spectrecoin. They have both potential and can be the best in your wallet but since price fell down in spectrecoin you can hold and wait to rise the price.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: xanaxxx on February 23, 2018, 11:24:41 AM
Hi guys, i did buy xspec at around 4,4dollar. Now the price is around 1,2!! Shoud i buy more now or should i invest in deep onion ? I read some article said xspec is scam. What do you think about it ? Is deep onion a better alternative ?

deeponion is better project in my opinion. I have been also considering investing in that for some time, now I definitely decided to go further and put $2k in it. Advise you to do the same ;)


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: Riten on February 23, 2018, 11:27:19 AM
I choose Monero :)
Spectrecoin and Deeponion is like being said above similar. I agree that Deeponion has an advantage at the moment. Deepsend or something like that will be a good feature. It is something like mixer,you can read more about it here.

https://steemit.com/deeponion/@wekkel/deeponion-deepsend-explained

And they maybe have a smart contracts which would be a bigger advantage between these two. But Deeponion campaign is getting on my nerves, which is maybe not so relevant, but still lot of spamming from their side.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: BitLendingClub on February 23, 2018, 12:03:54 PM
I'm new to bitcointalk, but these posts are so nothing and vague, and at worst misleading. And deep onion and spectrecoin are definately at different stages of development.

I mean I researched before I bought my coins, even the 1-2 sat gamble coins.

Deep onion is not a privacy coin yet, it simply runs on the tor network. No one can say that deeponion is a better privacy coin than any project that has stealth address, ring sigs and tor. When it does it could be a good coin, until then I am wary of what I read and where I read about deeponion, because of the airdrops and incentives the project offers to "dominate" forums with deeponion talk.

Spectrecoin is from what I've research, a solid project that had a very bumpy start, but is now on track. The team is small, but while the coin was forked from SDC in late 2016, the Dev team have only really got going around July 2017 team due to illness/retirement of the old lead developer. Their price is not as hyped or artificial as deeponion, mainly because they marketing is so limited.

But I hold spectrecoin, and three recent articles about spectrecoin from three separate news outlets:

Explaining what spectrecoin is:
investinblockchain website /what-is-spectrecoin (edit: filter didn't like the blockchain part of link, search in google?)
Explaining what the point of privacy coins are:
https://bravenewcoin.com/news/dash-monero-zcash-and-more-anonymous-cryptocurrencies-explained/
^^ this mentions xspec but not deeponion, read into that what you want.
An article highlighting that it has a use case as a privacy coin:
https://darkwebnews.com/cryptocurrency/spectrecoin/
^^xspec is proof of stake so fees are small compared to monero for example.


I think people need to work harder to post more informed replies than, it's a scam, I bought X coin instead etc.

I have researched both, and went for xspec, I therefore know more about it, so can likely be considered biased, but I have linked to some external sources.

Excellent research, man! I would like that most of posts will be such or similar.
About coins. I don't like so much ads and PR from Deep Onion. And with Tor not all good. I see some mentions when says that owner Tor-exitnode can accumulate any info. And it's quite critical for coins


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: inthelongrun on February 23, 2018, 12:06:26 PM
I think you should just invest on both. There are lots of negative feed back on Deep Onion but their community looks very solid and strong. They are winning polls and topped that new Indian crypto exchange poll. That might be the second coming of Verge.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: leopard2 on February 23, 2018, 06:57:43 PM
The combination of POS and anonymity is fantastic, in fact a POS coin is MUUUUUUUCH harder to censor. It would be a lot easier to attack the Monero network for a hostile entity (like a government) by outlawing Monero mining and at the same time, using government computing resources to attack the Monero main chain.

Attacking a POS coin is much harder, there is no hardware and no electricity consumption that can be traced. An enemy would have to buy 50%+  of XSPEC to control the chain. This is doable and would result in $1000 XSPEC.

So XSPEC, at peace or at war, is an excellent coin IMHO.

Onion is better than XSPEC...but only at marketing and hyping. It is more like a cult if you read their threads; and this airdrop hype MLM thingy...brrrrrrrrrrr!  :P

XSPEC is probably the best privacy coin right now, methinks.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: guneytasyurek on February 24, 2018, 03:05:51 AM
Xspec and onion are both scams, devs dumped massive amounts, stay far away if you don't want to lose money.
Why dont you just show us a proof that xspec is a scam coin? Better to reveal your proof before spreading empty words.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: TucoRamirez on February 24, 2018, 06:50:06 AM
Look, both coins are quite decent. Please post link about XSPEC being a scam.. I would like to read it. I have invested in both coins for a few weeks now.

DeepOnion has a good strong community and they have also launched DeepVault - private, anonymous and secure file storage. They are currently giving weekly airdrops so ofcourse there is interest/hype/fud associated with it, but once the airdrops finish in a few months is when the technology will really show itself.


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: lero34 on February 24, 2018, 11:30:21 AM
About fraud or not, I do not know anything. It is necessary to look on groups or read on the Internet the pop-like information. For you, what you offer is not salvation. On this, I advise you to deduce what you can not lose what's left


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: preshpr1nce on February 24, 2018, 11:47:11 AM
Where it stands now, I see absolutely 0 reason to use either over real privacy coins out there, both have been spammed to hell and dumped hard, Xspec sounds good in theory but I still see nothing to suggest they can pull off stealth staking, if they can I'll probably invest in it myself, till then I see 0 cause, it's also the #1 spammed coin by Jr members.

Also, doesn't xspec only have one developer? Their Github page only shows commits from 1 person, their website also confirms it, also using code names for developers is as good as having no team up, people are putting a lot of faith in to this one..


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: sportadz on February 24, 2018, 12:29:14 PM
Has anyone actually seen a demonstration of deepvault in action - my worry with Deeponion is that its extremely well marketed but hasn't necessarily been tested for real?


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: thedarksun on February 24, 2018, 12:33:24 PM
Both coins are very good. Deeponion and spectrecoin have good technology But if I had to choose one, i choose deeponion. I heard about it a lot good informations so i prefer this


Title: Re: Spectrecoin or deeponion
Post by: ckorbba on February 24, 2018, 01:47:36 PM
Where it stands now, I see absolutely 0 reason to use either over real privacy coins out there, both have been spammed to hell and dumped hard, Xspec sounds good in theory but I still see nothing to suggest they can pull off stealth staking, if they can I'll probably invest in it myself, till then I see 0 cause, it's also the #1 spammed coin by Jr members.

Also, doesn't xspec only have one developer? Their Github page only shows commits from 1 person, their website also confirms it, also using code names for developers is as good as having no team up, people are putting a lot of faith in to this one..
Apparently all this is exactly what happens. But I think that if a coin enters the market, then professional traders immediately make an analysis and determine the prospects of this project.