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Title: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: odubo on February 22, 2018, 10:55:19 PM Waves platform announced ;D:
Quote We’re planning to start the BCH airdrop next Thursday, on February 22, 2018. Here’s how you take part: http://wavescommunity.com/bchairdrop/1. You need to generate a waves wallet with letters “B”, “C” and “H” in it, not necessarily in consecutive order; 2. After that, you transfer your WCT there; 3. Distribution is sent out to these new addresses proportionally to their WCT holdings; 4. If the address contains the “B”, “C” and “H” letters in the consecutive order the address receives a double payout; Stay tuned and follow our official channels for more details! I installed the lite wallet, until I bought at 1 BCH-BTC 0.13964936. On BTC-waves, and then waves-WCT happened -517.85 WCT, ::) and I received after 22 February BCH – 0.0252928!!! thus the conclusion only from 1 BCH?! Quote proportionally to their WCT holdings is it proportional to what?! ???and BCH these penny can not convert or withdraw! minimum withdraw 1 BCH!!! :'( brought to the stock exchange back 517 WTC. the rate fell, if now I transfer my WTC to BTC, I get 0.11141987, and for the purchase I spent 0.13964936, at the current rate of BTC I lost$285. >:( Simply magnificent! I got the BCH – 0.0252928 that$ 30, but I can't do anything with them! nor to exchange nor to withdraw!) well, plus I got 2 shitcoin: Liquid – 5.1785 is about 21 cents, ARKER – 0.51785, which is nowhere, and they are worth nothing. I wrote in wavescommunity com while the comments on moderation 17 hours, but I think rubs! I think all who have suffered from these scams need to write about it in the official channels and forums so that other people don't suffered from their actions. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: kz103 on February 22, 2018, 11:10:37 PM Just because you lost money doesn't mean it was a scam or fraud
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: odubo on February 22, 2018, 11:14:37 PM Just because you lost money doesn't mean it was a scam or fraud if you think so, look above, it says that BCH will charge proportionally to the WCT. Can you tell me what proportion you think it was?517.85 WCT BCH – 0.0252928 maybe I'm having trouble with the calculator.! in proportion to the quantity or value divided by ... however the platform is not written, what's the ratio If they reported such a small charge, and they wrote about the proportional accrual, no one climbed into airdrop. And so, helped their investors to become profitable and, accordingly, lowered their reputation. P.S. And they say that the Waves better ETH coin and the coin's value does not correspond to its possibilities. P.P.S. and those who lost money on this airdrop, not the first caught with their project. Hence the attitude towards this project in the community. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: odubo on February 22, 2018, 11:23:49 PM I just want to talk about their speculation and warn the others!
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: kz103 on February 22, 2018, 11:29:41 PM Honestly your explanation is a little confusing as I understand it you bought 517 wct to get the free bch air drop and received roughly .025 bch is that correct?
When they say porportionally that means however many total bch they are distributing ( I don't know what that number was) is evenenly distributed based on how many WCT you hold. For example someone holding 1000WCT should receive twice as much as someone holding 500WCT. Were you expecting to receive a 1:1 ratio or something? You are not able to convert it back to you original bitcoin amount because WCT has dropped more than BTC while you held not because you were scammed. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: odubo on February 22, 2018, 11:47:12 PM I agree, Waves are not to blame for the depreciation of the WCT,
I just wrote that the calculated amounts of BCH unclear if the creators wrote bought 1 BCH and share it to all who will participate in proportion to their WCT, then Yes, it would have been fair! but they didn't write about that there is a limit to the BCH for this promotion. and the amount that I lost, I wrote in order to further, people understand what can be with such great promotions of this platform and how much they will receive coins! Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: kz103 on February 22, 2018, 11:58:05 PM Why do you keep saying they only distributed 1BCH? Did they ever say how many they'd be distributing. I hold wavesand think it's a good coin but I don't really follow the air drops.
So I'm sorry you lost money and didn't receive as much bch as you were expecting but I don't see anything that shows you were scammed in anyway so you're spreading misinformation about a good project. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: odubo on February 23, 2018, 01:46:59 AM I'm not saying that they are only 1BCH handed out, I wrote that I had 1BCH, which I changed to buy BTC then I shifted to another market where I bought the WCT.
and in the last post there is 1BCH as a invented amount, I said that the organizers did not announce the amount of BCH for this action, and suggested that if the organizers of the action called it immediately for example 1BCH(or 10BCH) , then few would decide to take part in it. but if the organizers did not specify just how they will distribute BCH and wrote commensurate with the WCT, so you should or equal to the number(this is of course impossible) and an equal amount of BCH were giving away, but they didn't, and was introduced initially, all the confusion, to sell the WCT!!!!! that's what fraud is! deception in the holding of this event!!! if the organizers later I'll do other promotions, then there might be the same, not all the information! and other people can get hurt at the hands of these scammers! Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: kz103 on February 23, 2018, 02:00:49 AM Youre being ridiculous to call it a scam. They air dropped you BCH just like they said they would you weren't scammed sorry you though you'd get more. But it sounds like you got 2-3% of your holding air dropped for free I'm not sure what you expected but just because you expected more doesn't mean they scammed you
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: mummybtc on February 23, 2018, 04:13:00 AM I think you should look into the mirror and point fingers at the person in the mirror, I have warned people several time about some of these airdrop invent, you should have asked the question does it really worth it before investing in the token, because at the end of the day the sum of what you are given is most of the time less than your actual investment in the token
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: Endikadija on February 23, 2018, 05:00:09 AM Why do you keep saying they only distributed 1BCH? Did they ever say how many they'd be distributing. I hold wavesand think it's a good coin but I don't really follow the air drops. The only solution for OP never to try to keep all of his amounts in the waves platform to receive any airdrop, but as you can see the only thing that you can do just like to get the more explanation regarding what already happened with it. So I'm sorry you lost money and didn't receive as much bch as you were expecting but I don't see anything that shows you were scammed in anyway so you're spreading misinformation about a good project. But this will help you a lot for that https://support.wavesplatform.com/en/knowledge-bases/2/articles/9821-bch-airdrop-faq-9-nov-2017 There was only 100 BCH to be airdropped for all of WCT holders. That's why you are only getting a small amount of BCH. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: tdeannova on February 23, 2018, 08:12:17 AM Take it easy, it's just your misconception about the airdrop regulation itself. Only you who say the waves are a scam and your reason is so unreasonable to blame the waves.
Better understand well, if necessary do a discussion before you follow something. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: johncro_ on February 23, 2018, 09:57:17 AM man you created account to call waves a scam project, based on your lack of knowledge and research...whats so hard to understand...first of all airdrops were meant for long time wct holders who held tokens for a long time and thats bassically free money...but then again some idiots(you) think they can be smart and buy some wct and get free money...then price of wct goes up cause of high demand and stupid people buy them thinking they got jackpot but instead after you get some money(airdrop) you should realize by the time you get airdrop, price of wct tokens drop like it's supposted to happen.so after you realize you lost money on gambling you come here spread shitty fud and expect do get your money back blaming waves for your mistakes...
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: carlisle1 on February 23, 2018, 10:31:48 AM I think you should look into the mirror and point fingers at the person in the mirror, I have warned people several time about some of these airdrop invent, you should have asked the question does it really worth it before investing in the token, because at the end of the day the sum of what you are given is most of the time less than your actual investment in the token right because OP is being greedy that he doesnt clarify of read carefully whats the DEV says,because he was being blind by the amount promised in airdrop.there nothing to blame here but OP itself.if he just cleared every details specified on the platform he will not crying being a victim of he says scamTitle: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: Manc89 on February 23, 2018, 10:43:58 AM I think you should look into the mirror and point fingers at the person in the mirror, I have warned people several time about some of these airdrop invent, you should have asked the question does it really worth it before investing in the token, because at the end of the day the sum of what you are given is most of the time less than your actual investment in the token Now airdrop just make us lose. I know we got the free token but we dont realize that the token will bring us big lose. Thats what happen with nxt and ignis. People buy nxt because they want to get ignis, they get ignis but the other side nxt dump very bad. So they lose. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: Trofo on February 23, 2018, 11:27:47 AM I agree, Waves are not to blame for the depreciation of the WCT, I just wrote that the calculated amounts of BCH unclear if the creators wrote bought 1 BCH and share it to all who will participate in proportion to their WCT, then Yes, it would have been fair! but they didn't write about that there is a limit to the BCH for this promotion. and the amount that I lost, I wrote in order to further, people understand what can be with such great promotions of this platform and how much they will receive coins! I had a problem with the title of your topic even before reading the post but decided to give it a try anyway. Waves is a platform which is used by many tokens and you can't blame them if you have an issue with one of those tokens. If that was the case everybody could blame ETH for being scam & fraud because so many shit token airdrops on that platform turned out to be scams. From the bold part of your reply above it seems that you have concluded this as well. Therefore, I am kindly asking you to change the title of your topic to something more appropriate to avoid unnecessary FUD. Just to make clear I don't know anything about BCH and from what I managed to get from this thread they did nothing wrong except maybe not making the rules clear enough. But for sure, your issue is with BCH and not Waves platform. At least swap Waves with BCH in the title. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: hase0278 on February 23, 2018, 11:52:50 AM I'm not saying that they are only 1BCH handed out, I wrote that I had 1BCH, which I changed to buy BTC then I shifted to another market where I bought the WCT. In the end it is clear that waves havw not scammed you at all. Always rember that airdrops.doesnt bring much of a fortune and the waves airdrop IMO is normal. You just misunderstood the rules of the airdrop in the first place. I concluded it this way because of the post above with a link to waves support explaining about the bch airdrop. The loss on wct part on the other hand is only caused by it's loss of value.and in the last post there is 1BCH as a invented amount, I said that the organizers did not announce the amount of BCH for this action, and suggested that if the organizers of the action called it immediately for example 1BCH(or 10BCH) , then few would decide to take part in it. but if the organizers did not specify just how they will distribute BCH and wrote commensurate with the WCT, so you should or equal to the number(this is of course impossible) and an equal amount of BCH were giving away, but they didn't, and was introduced initially, all the confusion, to sell the WCT!!!!! that's what fraud is! deception in the holding of this event!!! if the organizers later I'll do other promotions, then there might be the same, not all the information! and other people can get hurt at the hands of these scammers! Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: Fedrey on February 23, 2018, 02:14:48 PM I think you should look into the mirror and point fingers at the person in the mirror, I have warned people several time about some of these airdrop invent, you should have asked the question does it really worth it before investing in the token, because at the end of the day the sum of what you are given is most of the time less than your actual investment in the token Now airdrop just make us lose. I know we got the free token but we dont realize that the token will bring us big lose. Thats what happen with nxt and ignis. People buy nxt because they want to get ignis, they get ignis but the other side nxt dump very bad. So they lose. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: styca on February 23, 2018, 03:13:08 PM Waves is definitely not a scam. I don't know the particular terms of this airdrop, but airdrops in general are a small amount. If the drop is proportional to the amount of WCT you hold, and you only have a small amount of WCT, then you will only get a small amount in the airdrop. It's not like a fork to create a new coin, where you get 1:1 new coin to old coin.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud!support the petition! Post by: muvie on February 23, 2018, 03:59:23 PM Just because you lost money doesn't mean it was a scam or fraud Yes, this is exactly what I thought. No need to cry "scam" just because you have not understand the latest BCH reward for Waves Community Token holders.Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: tylerik1 on February 23, 2018, 04:10:13 PM Waves is not a scam guys, it is one of the greatest projects out there for long term. The team is working hard and they are doing multiple airdops in the next couple of months. So hold your stuff and wait for airdrops and wait for an easy x5-x10!
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: pey on February 23, 2018, 04:25:19 PM Waves is not scam, maybe the coin called as scam the most may be bitcoin, does that make it scam? no. You must be careful when calling any of the coins as scam, this is in fact crime.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: bigcash2011 on February 23, 2018, 06:12:41 PM We cannot call waves platform a scam but i have read alot about waves curse, especially the tokens generated on waves platform are mostly useless, valueless and they struggle to get listed on decent exchanges resulting in poor performance.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Tony116 on February 23, 2018, 10:33:21 PM I do not think that WAVES is a scam. I think that this is a serious project that has been developing for a long time and probably will soon become successful. But I know that this project has some problems and therefore the coin is slowly growing. If you have a lot of patience then you can buy this coin for long-term holding.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: zokora on February 23, 2018, 10:46:19 PM Waves is not scam but their dex is shit. There is no volume which makes you lose what you get from airdrop. Besides BCH they used is not a coin it is an asset in Waves platform. I always say that Waves is a good idea in weak hands. Sasha Ivanov and his team is bad and they ruined this good idea.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Veseloff on February 23, 2018, 10:48:09 PM Whence such thoughts, are the facts? This is a very promising project and an exchange with great perspectives! So my opinion is a false argument!
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Eddyc on February 24, 2018, 05:33:51 AM I believe that before raising any question and assumption we should contact the support, seek solution to the problem, we know that no is perfect, the system, all seek perfection but none is perfect, in short, only after seeking a solution and nothing is solved, we can use the forum as a means of alert.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Dragonrage201 on February 24, 2018, 05:45:04 AM Waves needs good marketing and execution. Hopefully the team will get their act together
this year. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: light22man on February 24, 2018, 06:49:21 AM Why people when they lost money because their invest in something they don't understand, always scream scam? Be responsible for your decision.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Bodywowoya on February 24, 2018, 07:03:55 AM I do not understand what evidence you had to accuse them of fraud, you have lost nothing of this kind, but it is your own fault and not a currency that has proved itself for a long time and on the positive side. Yes, they need to develop from them, not everything is so smooth, but this is clearly not fraud.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Neo.Prometheus on September 27, 2018, 02:37:52 PM Waves is not scam. It is impossible to accuse the project without evidence. You just didn't figure it out. Here is a recent project update. The functionality of the Waves network has been significantly expanded and, thanks to this, everyone has the opportunity to implement many additional solutions for their projects. As it can be seen here: https://docs.wavesplatform.com/en/technical-details/waves-contracts-language-description/implementation-details.html
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: VclDm on September 30, 2018, 02:22:55 PM No, Waves is still one of the most potent pennies, and if we hold on to the opportunity that will give us a lot of profit, I think you keep holding them until the end of the year.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Gaaara on September 30, 2018, 04:18:37 PM There is some error that occur but that does not mean a certain coin is a scam you lost some money using it, there is so many cases like yours and most of them have been failed to do something important or they forget something in process and ends up losing their coin it is not mainly because of the coin itself it is most likely that the users coin loses money for their own fault.
The last thing Wave is widely known through crypto market its famous among traders and investors so accusation should not be entertained. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on May 18, 2020, 10:14:47 PM SCAM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839796.msg54343582#msg54343582 SCAM Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Japinat on May 19, 2020, 12:00:25 PM For me waves is a legit project, one of the old projects in the market that has still survive until now.
If investors think it's a scam project, then they should be leaving and it will also be delisted in Binance, but its not the thing now, it still remain to hold its big trading volume and still listed in popular big exchanges. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: leea-1334 on May 19, 2020, 02:53:41 PM Crazy how people can just come in and say scam and fraud and just cause panic,,, but I guess this is the world of crypto where anything goes.
Long time believer in Waves,,, I do feel that they never really cared much about marketing, which is why it is not so big, but that is fine by me, I am willing to wait for the next Wave for Waves;) Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on May 19, 2020, 03:41:32 PM For me waves is a legit project, one of the old projects in the market that has still survive until now. Of course, this is possible, after they buying this shit, for already stoled (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209152.msg54444518#msg54444518) and dirty money.If investors think it's a scam project, then they should be leaving and it will also be delisted in Binance, but its not the thing now, it still remain to hold its big trading volume and still listed in popular big exchanges. In this case, the price of this instamined asset, in this bubble, can be keep stable for long time, on many exchanges, but all this is a fake, and no any real trading, just one bot/script on Raspberry Pi for $5. SCAM Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: FanEagle on May 19, 2020, 03:54:47 PM Even OP was raised this question more than 2 years back and based one particular air-drop, I just want to share my personal opinion about waves which is about 5 years of observation as a strong believer of cryptos.
1. In my opinion, waves are supporting dapps long before ethereum was introduced but for no reason or due to lack of active devs, they are not growing how ethereum managed to surprises some 2 years back. 2. Waves is supporting implicit POS feature which is known leasing waves. I am doing it for years without any problem and anyone may go for it as it will not let our waves go out of our wallet and we may cancel leasing at anytime. 3. Unlike most other altcoins, waves is not widely accepted on gambling industry nor there is no dedicated waves based gambling house. I read recently there is going to be a new waves based gambling but not heard anything about its development or launch. 4. Waves must be one of the coin which is still undervalued for no reason. By early 2019 when bitcoin was in negative market, waves managed to gain some 10x growth within a week of time and we can expect similar growth again at any time. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: durilup on May 19, 2020, 03:57:51 PM I think waves is not a scamm . Even if they have a wallet with full of bugs they are still on the market for 4 years and in the top60. You should contact an administrator from their official email and try to tell them the issue
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: SolarWindMiningCompany on May 19, 2020, 09:08:29 PM We cannot call waves platform a scam but i have read alot about waves curse, especially the tokens generated on waves platform are mostly useless, valueless and they struggle to get listed on decent exchanges resulting in poor performance. Its no scam. Team is verifiable and platform can be identified. But to the very best, waves is a disappointment. Bought tons of it in 2017 but currently its not even among the top 10 Livingston projects as it looks like the team is now out of idea when compared to tezos,ethereum and stellar lumens Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: bct_ail on May 19, 2020, 09:43:23 PM Even OP was raised this question more than 2 years back and based one particular air-drop, I just want to share my personal opinion about waves which is about 5 years of observation as a strong believer of cryptos. 1. In my opinion, waves are supporting dapps long before ethereum was introduced but for no reason or due to lack of active devs, they are not growing how ethereum managed to surprises some 2 years back. 2. Waves is supporting implicit POS feature which is known leasing waves. I am doing it for years without any problem and anyone may go for it as it will not let our waves go out of our wallet and we may cancel leasing at anytime. 3. Unlike most other altcoins, waves is not widely accepted on gambling industry nor there is no dedicated waves based gambling house. I read recently there is going to be a new waves based gambling but not heard anything about its development or launch. 4. Waves must be one of the coin which is still undervalued for no reason. By early 2019 when bitcoin was in negative market, waves managed to gain some 10x growth within a week of time and we can expect similar growth again at any time. I agree with you on points 1-3. And I can also remember 2019, when Waves was pumping. But just like then, I ask myself, why? There was no great news to justify that growth . And what news should it be in the future to make Waves growth again? Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: BChydro on May 19, 2020, 11:54:36 PM ~ When the ICO market was booming all these token creating platform was having a good time and the decentralized exchange was interesting but the problem with the market is that anyone could create fake tokens and it will be hard for new users to follow everything and many got scammed if you are not careful trading in the exchange and now it is hard until they make some major changes.I agree with you on points 1-3. And I can also remember 2019, when Waves was pumping. But just like then, I ask myself, why? There was no great news to justify that growth . And what news should it be in the future to make Waves growth again? Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: shoreno on May 20, 2020, 02:20:30 AM ~ When the ICO market was booming all these token creating platform was having a good time I agree with you on points 1-3. And I can also remember 2019, when Waves was pumping. But just like then, I ask myself, why? There was no great news to justify that growth . And what news should it be in the future to make Waves growth again? there are many token creation platform but most of them only boom recently while the only known platform that time was eth and waves so both of them are indeed having a good time but eth platform was may more indemand than waves because they say the quality of coin will be better if its under the eth platform . so @bct_ail link know you know why waves pump before . you cant saw that somewhere on news because this isnt an important/special event to be on news Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on May 20, 2020, 09:16:27 PM I think waves is not a scamm . Even if they have a wallet with full of bugs they are still on the market for 4 years and in the top60. You should contact an administrator from their official email and try to tell them the issue I already wrote them by this emails (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839796.msg54343582#msg54343582), and no any answer more than 1 month, from 13 of April 2020.The last reply, which I received from there, this is reply about how to make deposit. Maybe they just pay small amounts, or just continue to accept deposits, because this is a SCAM. @FanEagle, instamined (https://wavesblockexplorer.com/blocks/1) shit, which was been selled for BTC on ICO, cannt be undervalued for no reason, moreover, after SCAM, because no one don't want to give their money to primitive rats, who just want to stole it, by using a simple SCAM-schemes. And usually, instamined altcoins, with total available supply over 100 M, have equilibrium market price 1-20 sat's, for long time, with $0 volumes of trading. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Quidat on May 20, 2020, 09:39:37 PM ~ When the ICO market was booming all these token creating platform was having a good time I agree with you on points 1-3. And I can also remember 2019, when Waves was pumping. But just like then, I ask myself, why? There was no great news to justify that growth . And what news should it be in the future to make Waves growth again? there are many token creation platform but most of them only boom recently while the only known platform that time was eth and waves so both of them are indeed having a good time but eth platform was may more indemand than waves because they say the quality of coin will be better if its under the eth platform . so @bct_ail link know you know why waves pump before . you cant saw that somewhere on news because this isnt an important/special event to be on news Im not saying that Waves is a failed project but the devs or team behind it didnt really made up more updates towards this one. Ive remembered well on how ETH and WAves are popular wayback before when they are just starting. They do really gain that attraction but ETH able to manage to withstand the test of time. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: asriloni on May 21, 2020, 02:58:30 AM I think waves is not a scamm . Even if they have a wallet with full of bugs they are still on the market for 4 years and in the top60. You should contact an administrator from their official email and try to tell them the issue I already wrote them by this emails (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839796.msg54343582#msg54343582), and no any answer more than 1 month, from 13 of April 2020.The last reply, which I received from there, this is reply about how to make deposit. Maybe they just pay small amounts, or just continue to accept deposits, because this is a SCAM. @FanEagle, instamined (https://wavesblockexplorer.com/blocks/1) shit, which was been selled for BTC on ICO, cannt be undervalued for no reason, moreover, after SCAM, because no one don't want to give their money to primitive rats, who just want to stole it, by using a simple SCAM-schemes. And usually, instamined altcoins, with total available supply over 100 M, have equilibrium market price 1-20 sat's, for long time, with $0 volumes of trading. It looks like that guy above you didn't even aware about the case of waves with its scam coinomat. It's not only sasha but whole people in this foundation can be called as scammer. I guess waves will not response your accusation. So many accusations have ignored by the team since this project has already started. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: disconnectme on May 21, 2020, 09:34:39 PM I doubt the project is a scam, if it is a scam by now the team would have run away with the stash of Bitcoin they are sitting on. Waves team got luck got into the Crypto at the start of ICO bull run, was able to raise 33K BTC and rode it to the top. There is nothing special about project, the exchange lacks volume and no one is even using their platform expect all these scam-my airdrop.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on May 21, 2020, 10:46:57 PM I doubt the project is a scam, if it is a scam by now the team would have run away with the stash of Bitcoin they are sitting on. Waves team got luck got into the Crypto at the start of ICO bull run, was able to raise 33K BTC and rode it to the top. There is nothing special about project, the exchange lacks volume and no one is even using their platform expect all these scam-my airdrop. This seems like a fake, because now, market capitalization of all WAVES is 11400 BTCaccording the data of https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/ but this value calculated in USD, and this value is equal of total available waves * price of this shit Where is another 22k BTC now?? If this is real market why they just stoled $7k, after WUSD-SCAM, holding it, and no any answer - more than one month? I think the price of this WAVES is a fake, because they just buying this - for already stoled money, and in real life there just sit a several rat's, who are ready to stole even few satoshies. Otherwise, they would not steal money from traders if it weren’t a financial bubble. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: 7788bitcoin on May 21, 2020, 11:13:43 PM I doubt the project is a scam, if it is a scam by now the team would have run away with the stash of Bitcoin they are sitting on. Waves team got luck got into the Crypto at the start of ICO bull run, was able to raise 33K BTC and rode it to the top. There is nothing special about project, the exchange lacks volume and no one is even using their platform expect all these scam-my airdrop. All the ICO that promised big raised a ton of money and after that the end product was shit and that is the case with many projects, what is the real update on the waves platform, i am not hearing much from them and how they are going to change that is unknown, you can use it as a speculative market just like any other market in this space.If this is real market why they just stoled $7k, after WUSD-SCAM, holding it, and no any answer - more than one month? It is a really low amount of money to get a scammer tag, what i am trying to tell is if they really wanted to run away they would have rather than stealing just small amounts. If you could elaborate about the scam then it would be great as i cannot find any thread regarding this,I think the price of this WAVES is a fake, because they just buying this - for already stoled money, and in real life there just sit a several rat's, who are ready to stole even few satoshies. Otherwise, they would not steal money from traders if it weren’t a financial bubble. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on May 22, 2020, 12:22:56 AM If this is real market why they just stoled $7k, after WUSD-SCAM, holding it, and no any answer - more than one month? It is a really low amount of money to get a scammer tag, what i am trying to tell is if they really wanted to run away they would have rather than stealing just small amounts. If you could elaborate about the scam then it would be great as i cannot find any thread regarding this,I think the price of this WAVES is a fake, because they just buying this - for already stoled money, and in real life there just sit a several rat's, who are ready to stole even few satoshies. Otherwise, they would not steal money from traders if it weren’t a financial bubble. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: jarhed on May 22, 2020, 11:03:32 AM I don't think Waves is a skam, because the project is in the top market, it has a team that is trying to improve its project, it's just not a good time and not everything works out with the developers of Waves.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Twinkledoe on May 22, 2020, 11:14:12 AM I think waves is not a scamm . Even if they have a wallet with full of bugs they are still on the market for 4 years and in the top60. You should contact an administrator from their official email and try to tell them the issue I already wrote them by this emails (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839796.msg54343582#msg54343582), and no any answer more than 1 month, from 13 of April 2020.The last reply, which I received from there, this is reply about how to make deposit. Maybe they just pay small amounts, or just continue to accept deposits, because this is a SCAM. @FanEagle, instamined (https://wavesblockexplorer.com/blocks/1) shit, which was been selled for BTC on ICO, cannt be undervalued for no reason, moreover, after SCAM, because no one don't want to give their money to primitive rats, who just want to stole it, by using a simple SCAM-schemes. And usually, instamined altcoins, with total available supply over 100 M, have equilibrium market price 1-20 sat's, for long time, with $0 volumes of trading. It looks like that guy above you didn't even aware about the case of waves with its scam coinomat. It's not only sasha but whole people in this foundation can be called as scammer. I guess waves will not response your accusation. So many accusations have ignored by the team since this project has already started. I won't label them as scammers as they are continuously developing their platform. Most scammers run away with their stash without making any effort on their platform. But this one, they seemed to continuously deliver some progress. But even if they introduced the waves.exchange, it seemed everyone is ignoring it. I know they have funds but why is it that they are not holding at least sig campaign here in the forum when they launched their new exchange platform? A lot of projects here can afford and more than likely waves is in better position than most of them. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: andulolika on May 22, 2020, 11:16:32 AM Caveat emptor.
And waves is highly underrated. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on May 23, 2020, 12:07:35 AM I think waves is not a scamm . Even if they have a wallet with full of bugs they are still on the market for 4 years and in the top60. You should contact an administrator from their official email and try to tell them the issue I already wrote them by this emails (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839796.msg54343582#msg54343582), and no any answer more than 1 month, from 13 of April 2020.The last reply, which I received from there, this is reply about how to make deposit. Maybe they just pay small amounts, or just continue to accept deposits, because this is a SCAM. @FanEagle, instamined (https://wavesblockexplorer.com/blocks/1) shit, which was been selled for BTC on ICO, cannt be undervalued for no reason, moreover, after SCAM, because no one don't want to give their money to primitive rats, who just want to stole it, by using a simple SCAM-schemes. And usually, instamined altcoins, with total available supply over 100 M, have equilibrium market price 1-20 sat's, for long time, with $0 volumes of trading. It looks like that guy above you didn't even aware about the case of waves with its scam coinomat. It's not only sasha but whole people in this foundation can be called as scammer. I guess waves will not response your accusation. So many accusations have ignored by the team since this project has already started. I won't label them as scammers as they are continuously developing their platform. Most scammers run away with their stash without making any effort on their platform. But this one, they seemed to continuously deliver some progress. But even if they introduced the waves.exchange, it seemed everyone is ignoring it. I know they have funds but why is it that they are not holding at least sig campaign here in the forum when they launched their new exchange platform? A lot of projects here can afford and more than likely waves is in better position than most of them. Why they not to develop their platform on which they just can take and steal the other people's money? It have some sense for them, moreover while their SCAM is still possible. Maybe, in the future, you all can see the something, like re-branding, and another bubble with your own money placed, in the orders, to buy this air-shit. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Coin_trader on May 23, 2020, 12:20:40 AM I doubt the project is a scam, if it is a scam by now the team would have run away with the stash of Bitcoin they are sitting on. Waves team got luck got into the Crypto at the start of ICO bull run, was able to raise 33K BTC and rode it to the top. There is nothing special about project, the exchange lacks volume and no one is even using their platform expect all these scam-my airdrop. Yep. I'm not a big fan of waves but I'm following this project and includes to my watchlist in tradingview. The OP should change the title or closed this thread since he loss money due to not properly comprehend the mechanics of the airdrop. They are also consistent on their product development which you can check on there official github. https://github.com/wavesplatform/Waves/pulls Waves is a solid project and I believe a very underrated coin considering all the product they achieve since the beginning of the project. So there is no way that they will be a fraud because of this airdrop. Anyway I have tons of shitcoin in my waves wallet because many user there are doing fake coin airdrop and that's the real fraud there. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: bct_ail on May 23, 2020, 08:06:13 PM ~ When the ICO market was booming all these token creating platform was having a good time I agree with you on points 1-3. And I can also remember 2019, when Waves was pumping. But just like then, I ask myself, why? There was no great news to justify that growth . And what news should it be in the future to make Waves growth again? there are many token creation platform but most of them only boom recently while the only known platform that time was eth and waves so both of them are indeed having a good time but eth platform was may more indemand than waves because they say the quality of coin will be better if its under the eth platform . so @bct_ail link know you know why waves pump before . you cant saw that somewhere on news because this isnt an important/special event to be on news Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Innocant on May 23, 2020, 09:36:32 PM Im investing wave in a pas few years but I never said wave is a scam, I earn enough from waves since the time of bull run.
But we are in different ways on how to invest or buy wave, And in a platform for wave it was not problem on me and I understand and how to use it. Maybe they have more update in a platfrom so that's its hard for anyone to understand. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: whyrqa on May 24, 2020, 03:50:13 PM Im investing wave in a pas few years but I never said wave is a scam, I earn enough from waves since the time of bull run. It is very difficult to predict something about the future of the Wave coins, and in particular regarding the platform. But today, traders have good performance from trading cryptocurrency Waves, especially given the daily trading volume of 35.685.000 dollars. The fact is that waves have always collected a lot of negative reviews, as well as positive reviews, since its inception. In addition, until now, waves are considered to be a direct competitor to Ethereum and many cryptocurrency users compare waves with Ethereum in different ways. Nevertheless, Ethereum is at a level much higher, To which the waves are still far. In addition, the waves are friendly to the government, and they also have their own views on user verification and loyal AML / KYC policies, and in this regard, many cryptocurrency users are unhappy.But we are in different ways on how to invest or buy wave, And in a platform for wave it was not problem on me and I understand and how to use it. Maybe they have more update in a platfrom so that's its hard for anyone to understand. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: StephenJH on May 24, 2020, 05:28:56 PM I don't think Waves is a skam, because the project is in the top market, it has a team that is trying to improve its project, it's just not a good time and not everything works out with the developers of Waves. l don't agree with your opinion, it doesn't matter the project is in the top market or not. We can realize that there is really some project, which is in the top market, but it is also a scam. To be in the top market doesn't mean the project is so good or reliable. Maybe the team is working hard and as you mentioned improve its project, but l don't prefer Waves. Waves DEX was a good choice way back to 2017, now it is grave for many altcoins and Waves tokens, unfortunately.Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on May 24, 2020, 06:13:00 PM I don't think Waves is a skam, because the project is in the top market, it has a team that is trying to improve its project, it's just not a good time and not everything works out with the developers of Waves. l don't agree with your opinion, it doesn't matter the project is in the top market or not. We can realize that there is really some project, which is in the top market, but it is also a scam. To be in the top market doesn't mean the project is so good or reliable. Maybe team is working hard and as you mentioned improve its project, but l don't prefer Waves. by buying an any asset for already stoled, another people's money. As you can see here (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/), the [market capitalization] = [total available supply of coins] * [market price], and while [total available supply of coins] value ~ constant, [market capitalization] value is directly proportional from [market price] value, and there is enough to pump shit-coin, and push up the [market price] to inflate the [market capitalization] of any scam-shit, up to top-ranked crypto-shit (https://coinmarketcap.com), which are sorted by [market capitalization], and have the rank equal of position in this sorted list. And there is no any dependency from stability of deposit-withdraw real money. There can be a total scam, but this will have the high [market price], just while scammers reinvesting and keep stoled money in buy-orders to buy their own shit. Im investing wave in a pas few years but I never said wave is a scam, I earn enough from waves since the time of bull run. It is very difficult to predict something about the future of the Wave coins, and in particular regarding the platform. But today, traders have good performance from trading cryptocurrency Waves, especially given the daily trading volume of 35.685.000 dollars. The fact is that waves have always collected a lot of negative reviews, as well as positive reviews, since its inception. In addition, until now, waves are considered to be a direct competitor to Ethereum and many cryptocurrency users compare waves with Ethereum in different ways. Nevertheless, Ethereum is at a level much higher, To which the waves are still far. In addition, the waves are friendly to the government, and they also have their own views on user verification and loyal AML / KYC policies, and in this regard, many cryptocurrency users are unhappy.But we are in different ways on how to invest or buy wave, And in a platform for wave it was not problem on me and I understand and how to use it. Maybe they have more update in a platfrom so that's its hard for anyone to understand. Quote -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- No problem, I can easy process that tedious and bureaucratic procedure (AML / KYC) to turn back my own money, 2 BTC, (18 150,52 $), https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/72c168445e105abf9e704a77b5048d4c53af20c1ecd230ddafa398c3574b9b0e https://wavesblockexplorer.com/tx/2tGw1e4wXYauYifr7xFkJA9ydENUgENSWPytFk5iYxxV of course, if this scammers will answer me. But no any answers, more than 1 month, after SCAM! Because they know, when I'll withdraw our family budget 2 BTC, (18 150,52 $), https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/72c168445e105abf9e704a77b5048d4c53af20c1ecd230ddafa398c3574b9b0e https://wavesblockexplorer.com/tx/2tGw1e4wXYauYifr7xFkJA9ydENUgENSWPytFk5iYxxV I will not invest no one satoshi there, in future, after those dirty manipulations on this non-free "market", with selective payments, and after they long-time just decided to keep holding a someone else's money, and just leave an illiquid shit-tokens for their inverstors. But I see that they do not care about the any reputation of this SCAM-platform, because all this internal fake "market" was been drawed by bots, throught trading with fake volumes by the fake instant-issued SCAM-assets, and this was been drawed to just stole the PART MONEY (in long-term), and after all - to stole ALL MONEY, at last. The stage at which the fraud occurred, this is the stage of exchanging BTC for fake WBTC, from scam-Issuer coinomat. As you can see here: https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/8LQW8f7P5d5PZM7GtZEBgaqRPGSzS3DfPuiXrURJ4AJS Issuer : 3PC4roN512iugc6xGVTTM2XkoWKEdSiiscd and this is the same issuer of WUSD-token: https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck Issuer : 3PC4roN512iugc6xGVTTM2XkoWKEdSiiscd Moreover, on one wallet, there is contains 20996685.74121434 WBTC, 1 3PDDQvm8Ykj3S7BvqpW99Khx4Vubz62Fk9N 20996685.74121434 And this is more over than real BTC was been mined. That means, that scammers did stole our 2 BTC, (18 150,52 $), https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/72c168445e105abf9e704a77b5048d4c53af20c1ecd230ddafa398c3574b9b0e https://wavesblockexplorer.com/tx/2tGw1e4wXYauYifr7xFkJA9ydENUgENSWPytFk5iYxxV half-year ago, when this deposit, and exchange, was been processed. -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1QGmrMkWAwpauFRMUq9Y9mK34e7uoc7ge5 HJl9W+23pWw+y7SUoBu8T4DBWIH2XTBYDSBOXIM6k5HSyazyWewakk64cEyQrOeBDHsezL1PQhYGuZ8HZjhTO+E= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Quote Permalink, to verify the signature (https://username1565.github.io/brainwallet.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1QGmrMkWAwpauFRMUq9Y9mK34e7uoc7ge5&vrMsg=No%20problem%2C%20I%20can%20easy%20process%20that%20tedious%20and%20bureaucratic%20procedure%20(AML%20%2F%20KYC)%0Ato%20turn%20back%20my%20own%20money%2C%0A2%20BTC%2C%20(18%20150%2C52%20%24)%2C%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.blockchain.com%2Fbtc%2Ftx%2F72c168445e105abf9e704a77b5048d4c53af20c1ecd230ddafa398c3574b9b0e%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwavesblockexplorer.com%2Ftx%2F2tGw1e4wXYauYifr7xFkJA9ydENUgENSWPytFk5iYxxV%0Aof%20course%2C%20if%20this%20scammers%20will%20answer%20me.%0A%0ABut%20no%20any%20answers%2C%20more%20than%201%20month%2C%20after%20SCAM!%0A%0ABecause%20they%20know%2C%20when%20I'll%20withdraw%20our%20family%20budget%0A2%20BTC%2C%20(18%20150%2C52%20%24)%2C%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.blockchain.com%2Fbtc%2Ftx%2F72c168445e105abf9e704a77b5048d4c53af20c1ecd230ddafa398c3574b9b0e%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwavesblockexplorer.com%2Ftx%2F2tGw1e4wXYauYifr7xFkJA9ydENUgENSWPytFk5iYxxV%0AI%20will%20not%20invest%20no%20one%20satoshi%20there%2C%20in%20future%2C%0Aafter%20those%20dirty%20manipulations%20on%20this%20non-free%20"market"%2C%0Awith%20selective%20payments%2C%0Aand%20after%20they%20long-time%20just%20decided%20to%20keep%20holding%20a%20someone%20else's%20money%2C%0Aand%20just%20leave%20an%20illiquid%20shit-tokens%20for%20their%20inverstors.%0A%0ABut%20I%20see%20that%20they%20do%20not%20care%20about%20the%20any%20reputation%20of%20this%20SCAM-platform%2C%0Abecause%20all%20this%20internal%20fake%20"market"%20was%20been%20drawed%20by%20bots%2C%0Athrought%20trading%20with%20fake%20volumes%20by%20the%20fake%20instant-issued%20SCAM-assets%2C%0Aand%20this%20was%20been%20drawed%20to%20just%20stole%20the%20PART%20MONEY%20(in%20long-term)%2C%0Aand%20after%20all%20-%20to%20stole%20ALL%20MONEY%2C%20at%20last.%0A%0AThe%20stage%20at%20which%20the%20fraud%20occurred%2C%0Athis%20is%20the%20stage%20of%20exchanging%20BTC%20for%20fake%20WBTC%2C%0Afrom%20scam-Issuer%20coinomat.%0AAs%20you%20can%20see%20here%3A%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fdev.pywaves.org%2Fassets%2F8LQW8f7P5d5PZM7GtZEBgaqRPGSzS3DfPuiXrURJ4AJS%0AIssuer%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3A%203PC4roN512iugc6xGVTTM2XkoWKEdSiiscd%20%0Aand%20this%20is%20the%20same%20issuer%20of%20WUSD-token%3A%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fdev.pywaves.org%2Fassets%2FFt8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck%0AIssuer%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3A%203PC4roN512iugc6xGVTTM2XkoWKEdSiiscd%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%0A%0AMoreover%2C%20on%20one%20wallet%2C%20there%20is%20contains%2020996685.74121434%20WBTC%2C%0A1%203PDDQvm8Ykj3S7BvqpW99Khx4Vubz62Fk9N%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%2020996685.74121434%0AAnd%20this%20is%20more%20over%20than%20real%20BTC%20was%20been%20mined.%0A%0AThat%20means%2C%20that%20scammers%20did%20stole%20our%0A2%20BTC%2C%20(18%20150%2C52%20%24)%2C%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.blockchain.com%2Fbtc%2Ftx%2F72c168445e105abf9e704a77b5048d4c53af20c1ecd230ddafa398c3574b9b0e%0Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwavesblockexplorer.com%2Ftx%2F2tGw1e4wXYauYifr7xFkJA9ydENUgENSWPytFk5iYxxV%0Ahalf-year%20ago%2C%20when%20this%20deposit%2C%20and%20exchange%2C%20was%20been%20processed.&vrSig=HJl9W%2B23pWw%2By7SUoBu8T4DBWIH2XTBYDSBOXIM6k5HSyazyWewakk64cEyQrOeBDHsezL1PQhYGuZ8HZjhTO%2BE%3D&vrstrMessageMagic=Bitcoin%20Signed%20Message%3A%0A) UPD: But today, traders have good performance from trading cryptocurrency Waves, especially given the daily trading volume of 35.685.000 dollars. Pffff. Trading volumes can be a fake, and this can be inflated by trading just one trading bot,and exchange his crypto to another his crypto many-many times per one day. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: leea-1334 on May 25, 2020, 09:13:13 AM crypto_trader#43xzEXrP it is very hard to understand exactly what it is you are trying to say but I think you are saying that everything in terms of volume can be fakes and on an open platform, you can also wash/launder money,,, I agree 100% here but could we not say the same for most altcoins?
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Barbut on May 25, 2020, 09:49:00 AM crypto_trader#43xzEXrP it is very hard to understand exactly what it is you are trying to say but I think you are saying that everything in terms of volume can be fakes and on an open platform, you can also wash/launder money,,, I agree 100% here but could we not say the same for most altcoins? We could say that for most alts and bitcoin too. Why we need to think about who is using it, it's their right to use any coin as they like! Who thinks that crypto is an easier and better way will use it, for legal or illegal purposes. And everything can be faked, volume or usage, but why to go to that negativity. But it's why you need to be careful here and to check something before you begin trusting~ Waves is not a scam, this is just a FUD! Waves is one of the good projects, decentralized and every person can build something there, it's on us to recognize what is good and what is bad and whom to trust. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: jarhed on May 25, 2020, 11:47:05 AM Waves is not a bench, you can say, for some people it is a top project, for some people it is not, but personally I believe that this project still has potential and if you study the project carefully, you can invest in it over time.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on May 25, 2020, 02:38:38 PM crypto_trader#43xzEXrP it is very hard to understand exactly what it is you are trying to say I want to say, the following thing...WAVES - this is instamined (https://wavesblockexplorer.com/blocks/1) SCAM, which was been just sold for BTC, on start, on ICO. I did deposit there (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/72c168445e105abf9e704a77b5048d4c53af20c1ecd230ddafa398c3574b9b0e) 2 REAL BTC (https://wavesblockexplorer.com/tx/2tGw1e4wXYauYifr7xFkJA9ydENUgENSWPytFk5iYxxV), and do not get nothing, for this BTC. Only scam-shit-tokens, which is illiquid, and the price of this shit can only go down. After all, after WUSD-scam (https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL), I don't see any answer from emails - more then 1 month! I did lost my last liquid asset - 7000 WUSD (https://w8io.ru/3PPTYsB78vQ5B7to1PHmgW6Bqdkkfavdcjn/f/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck). I cann't exchange this, and cann't withdraw. I did got NOTHING for my 2 BTC, and some tricky fat rat, just decided to keep holding my money. SCAM! but I think you are saying that everything in terms of volume can be fakes Yes. If I'll issue 21,000,000 LOLBTC shit-Token on WavesPlatform with 1 billion LOLUSD shit-token,I can inflate the volumes of trading this shit, just by exchange primine/instamine of this LOLUSD for LOLBTC, many many times per day. And this actions can be automatized, by using trading-bots. and on an open platform, you can also wash/launder money... What do you mean? I think, that tedious and bureaucratic procedures (AML / KYC),I agree 100% here but could we not say the same for most altcoins? this is just a tales, to hold real money and not process withdraw-orders on centralized scam-toilets. Because we are on the "free global market", and this is the main factor, which forms the real equilibrium price. When some exchanges ask KYC before withdraw, they just lost clients, just because this degenerative actions reduces asset liquidity, and another exchanges withdraw this automatically, without any KYC. For example, I just leave 6000 DOGE on bittrex.com, and never login there, just because they did ask this fucking KYC, AFTER TRY TO WITHDRAW MY MONEY. But, as I said earlier, yes, I can process this fucking KYC/AML procedures, if this will be really needed, and even show my displeased face, because in this scam-platform, I deposited all our family budget. KYC/AML need for the scammers, not for traders, because, for example, after financial fraud with WUSD (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck) and WEUR (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Gtb1WRznfchDnTh37ezoDTJ4wcoKaRsKqKjJjy7nm2zU) was been sold the following volumes of shit-tokens: 11977537.00 WUSD and 13211086.00 WEUR, and while this shit-tokens are illiquid now, scammers continue to keep holding the real money, without any KYC/AML, from which the terrorism can be financed and military budgets formed for inciting the wars in the World. And, as I said earlier, WBTC-token (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/8LQW8f7P5d5PZM7GtZEBgaqRPGSzS3DfPuiXrURJ4AJS) was been issued by coinomat-address, too. SCAM! Waves is not a scam, this is just a FUD! Pffffff. Yea, yea... This is just FUD, and no one do not lost ALL MONEY, AFTER SCAM.You can think so, only in your mind world. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: jahepahit on May 26, 2020, 11:22:31 AM if you feel a loss for the project implementer, maybe the main thing you should do is to follow all the official channels of your project. then ask about your problem, maybe there is something that you forget, to make you lose some of the funds you have
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Kang TB on October 21, 2020, 03:52:53 PM the OP must read this announcements from waves associations
https://medium.com/waves-association/waves-association-will-distribute-1-mln-waves-in-grants-to-foster-inter-chain-solution-development-7330e968a150 because waves is not a scam and fraud project Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Stavri on October 21, 2020, 04:43:21 PM Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: cryptonx on October 21, 2020, 05:01:58 PM Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels. i agree with you if waves isn't a scam project but what did you mean by price never climbed close to expected levels mate,, as i know the price of waves on ICO is about $ 0.188 and investors already got a huge profit if we comparing with the ATH price from waves or with the price of waves in this day Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Stavri on October 21, 2020, 05:18:18 PM Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels. i agree with you if waves isn't a scam project but what did you mean by price never climbed close to expected levels mate,, as i know the price of waves on ICO is about $ 0.188 and investors already got a huge profit if we comparing with the ATH price from waves or with the price of waves in this day when waves project launched, it was one of the greatest blockchain solution with a dex integrated. and potential of the project was so high. And that was during 2017 bull run. but unfortunately they couldnt make a good marketing strategy. and when crap projects were rising up, waves was the only one without uptrend. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: milewilda on October 21, 2020, 10:54:11 PM Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels. i agree with you if waves isn't a scam project but what did you mean by price never climbed close to expected levels mate,, as i know the price of waves on ICO is about $ 0.188 and investors already got a huge profit if we comparing with the ATH price from waves or with the price of waves in this day when waves project launched, it was one of the greatest blockchain solution with a dex integrated. and potential of the project was so high. And that was during 2017 bull run. but unfortunately they couldnt make a good marketing strategy. and when crap projects were rising up, waves was the only one without uptrend. but later on eth did able to cover waves in the dust when the time where market had been flooded out by projects made up on erc20.If they do able to put up some time or focus on marketing and with some updates then they really might able to gain one of the top spot on the entire market but well everything cant really reach out on whats intended yet it all varies with the demand or interest of people. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Eureka_07 on October 21, 2020, 11:04:31 PM Does waves.exchange is the official exchange for waves? Just asking this because I have been scammed for some small of amount of waves on that exchange platform.
I just wanted to confirm if this is connected to that or not. The scam was they promoted on twitter saying that they would sell, or we can buy a coin to their website, withdraw it and exchange it on Yobit (it happened a year a go I think?) I am not saying that Wave cypto is a scam, I;m more likely referring to the exchange platform. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Stavri on October 22, 2020, 06:46:09 AM They didnt able to sustain and i remember it clearly that this project also go along with Ethereum back to those old days where Waves is one of the most famous project wayback but later on eth did able to cover waves in the dust when the time where market had been flooded out by projects made up on erc20.If they do able to put up some time or focus on marketing and with some updates then they really might able to gain one of the top spot on the entire market but well everything cant really reach out on whats intended yet it all varies with the demand or interest of people. Yeah... Vitalik was very popular (Ofcourse he still is). So ethereum was. Even tech of waves was awesome, Sasha could not manage to advertize and marketing his project because the hype was totally on Ethereum that time. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: peter0425 on October 22, 2020, 08:53:18 AM the OP must read this announcements from waves associations Well they should have done that earlier because this thread was created almost 3 years ago and yet Waves is not that accurate in answering the accusation.https://medium.com/waves-association/waves-association-will-distribute-1-mln-waves-in-grants-to-foster-inter-chain-solution-development-7330e968a150 because waves is not a scam and fraud project But good thing that they come out for answers. Yeah... Vitalik was very popular (Ofcourse he still is). So ethereum was. Even tech of waves was awesome, Sasha could not manage to advertize and marketing his project because the hype was totally on Ethereum that time. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: bct_ail on October 22, 2020, 09:40:40 AM Does waves.exchange is the official exchange for waves? Just asking this because I have been scammed for some small of amount of waves on that exchange platform. I just wanted to confirm if this is connected to that or not. The scam was they promoted on twitter saying that they would sell, or we can buy a coin to their website, withdraw it and exchange it on Yobit (it happened a year a go I think?) I am not saying that Wave cypto is a scam, I;m more likely referring to the exchange platform. Was it the waves token or was it a token which was created on the waves Blockchain? If it was the second, it is not the fault from waves, that you got scammed. Everyone can issue a new token at Waves. That the same like ERC20-Token at Ethereum. There are heaps of scams with ERC20-Token. So would you blame Vitalik for it? Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Shasha80 on October 25, 2020, 12:48:22 AM Maybe many are disappointed with WAVES because the developer team is not active like TRX and ETH. Therefore, several allegations of
scams against WAVES were not immediately clarified by the development team, which makes WAVES considered an abandoned project by its developer. Indeed, WAVES is not as good in performance as in 2017-2018, but the performance has improved compared to 2019. Even in August 2020 WAVES pump was priced at $ 4.5. So in my opinion, investing in WAVES is still profitable. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Deviljr on October 25, 2020, 04:52:21 AM Seems like you're one of those who failed to manage take profits, i guess you need enough courage if you get benefit from waves. I do trust over waves and have small amount of waves on my wallet. In the long run waves should reach high.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: carlisle1 on October 25, 2020, 07:12:16 AM Seems like you're one of those who failed to manage take profits, i guess you need enough courage if you get benefit from waves. I do trust over waves and have small amount of waves on my wallet. In the long run waves should reach high. Waves in the past specially in 2017 and we can literally check this in graphshttps://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/ With a Return of Investments at 157% i think this coin really has a future(again in bullrun) and Calling this as scam or fraud is really irritating specially to those Wave holders and trusting this currency for years now. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: pilosopotasyo on October 25, 2020, 03:39:42 PM Waves in the past specially in 2017 and we can literally check this in graphs https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/ With a Return of Investments at 157% i think this coin really has a future(again in bullrun) and Calling this as scam or fraud is really irritating specially to those Wave holders and trusting this currency for years now. I am one of the people who's very much surprised to see that there was an accusation about Waves, and why posted it here when there is a scam section, I don't think any accusations here about Waves will stand the price is doing great and so is the volume I read that they are working to collaborate with Tron about DeFi, not because you did not make a profit you can call a coin a scam. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: didzi on October 25, 2020, 04:55:34 PM Seems like you're one of those who failed to manage take profits, i guess you need enough courage if you get benefit from waves. I do trust over waves and have small amount of waves on my wallet. In the long run waves should reach high. waves founder is a smart guy, and personally i never think if a scam project become the TOP altcoins in the market i think the OP just mis understanding about his own issue and wrote here a bad feedback on waves project, because the fact waves is solid and promissing project for me Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Sirait on October 25, 2020, 10:02:38 PM ~snip waves founder is a smart guy, and personally i never think if a scam project become the TOP altcoins in the market i think the OP just mis understanding about his own issue and wrote here a bad feedback on waves project, because the fact waves is solid and promissing project for me OP does not respond to this topic anymore, it looks like the problem has been resolved. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: X-ray on October 26, 2020, 02:07:42 PM ~snip waves founder is a smart guy, and personally i never think if a scam project become the TOP altcoins in the market i think the OP just mis understanding about his own issue and wrote here a bad feedback on waves project, because the fact waves is solid and promissing project for me OP does not respond to this topic anymore, it looks like the problem has been resolved. So many people were accusing the waves platform and they have provided the valid proof but the waves platform never gave them any respond regarding it. The reputation of waves platform should be on the middle or enough but this platform is not a good platform. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Pulsar77 on October 26, 2020, 03:05:03 PM Waves was one of the coins I trusted most in the past. Back then, the market needed a decentralized exchange, and Waves would provide it. However, Waves got too late in this regard. As a result, other coins have already done everything Waves aimed to do. I hate Sasha because of that.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Btra on October 26, 2020, 03:36:43 PM It is really true that Waves coin is a scam maybe it is upgrading to a higher or secure platform. But, in recent days while i was searching for the Waves wallet I can't find their wallet. I had some Waves coin it the https://waveswallet.io but now I can't find this URL.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: stadus on October 26, 2020, 03:46:14 PM Waves was one of the coins I trusted most in the past. Back then, the market needed a decentralized exchange, and Waves would provide it. However, Waves got too late in this regard. As a result, other coins have already done everything Waves aimed to do. I hate Sasha because of that. I was there when this coin was hype in the past, waves and Lisk, these are the coins which I believe people have invested money with, unfortunately for waves they got overshadowed by the ETH and ETH DEX so their popular was not as good as ETH, but they are still a legit project, reason why they have a value and a good trading volume. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: cryptonx on October 26, 2020, 03:48:50 PM Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels. i agree with you if waves isn't a scam project but what did you mean by price never climbed close to expected levels mate,, as i know the price of waves on ICO is about $ 0.188 and investors already got a huge profit if we comparing with the ATH price from waves or with the price of waves in this day when waves project launched, it was one of the greatest blockchain solution with a dex integrated. and potential of the project was so high. And that was during 2017 bull run. but unfortunately they couldnt make a good marketing strategy. and when crap projects were rising up, waves was the only one without uptrend. but if we comparing now price with the ICO price investors that still hold waves they still in profit right ? i also believe waves is one of the best crypto project, because this project still stand as the TOP 50 coins at coinmarketcap list now Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: bct_ail on October 26, 2020, 04:31:16 PM But, in recent days while i was searching for the Waves wallet I can't find their wallet. I had some Waves coin it the https://waveswallet.io but now I can't find this URL. Use https://waves.exchange/ Just log in using your seed Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: republicrypto on October 26, 2020, 04:52:11 PM Waves was one of the coins I trusted most in the past. Back then, the market needed a decentralized exchange, and Waves would provide it. However, Waves got too late in this regard. As a result, other coins have already done everything Waves aimed to do. I hate Sasha because of that. but i'm not hate sasha, because this guy with wavesplatform give me a good profit my friend,, i invest in waves ICO and sell all my coins when the price hit about $12, thats why i don't agree with the OP if waves is a scam because until now waves still exist in the market and sasha continue develop this project regards Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: sgenuine on October 26, 2020, 07:40:55 PM Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels. The project never seemed to be a fraud of a scam. Waves once reached 15 USD (or the price close to it), and the investors thought that the rise could continue all the time. It never happens. I am waiting for the next nearest top mark of the altcoin. Suppose, it will be $5 USD this year. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Danslip on October 26, 2020, 08:11:42 PM Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels. The project never seemed to be a fraud of a scam. Waves once reached 15 USD (or the price close to it), and the investors thought that the rise could continue all the time. It never happens. I am waiting for the next nearest top mark of the altcoin. Suppose, it will be $5 USD this year. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: ichsan ardi on October 26, 2020, 11:22:04 PM don't be kiddy and don't judge, lose immediately categorize that it's a scam. try checking again
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Nanda Dewi277 on October 27, 2020, 02:48:52 AM don't be kiddy and don't judge, lose immediately categorize that it's a scam. try checking again This is the fact that happened, it was their fault but they distorted the facts and accused the project. this is an idiot act.Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: onecall123 on October 27, 2020, 05:48:11 AM Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels. The project never seemed to be a fraud of a scam. Waves once reached 15 USD (or the price close to it), and the investors thought that the rise could continue all the time. It never happens. I am waiting for the next nearest top mark of the altcoin. Suppose, it will be $5 USD this year. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Geleve on October 27, 2020, 06:52:28 AM Waves was one of the coins I trusted most in the past. Back then, the market needed a decentralized exchange, and Waves would provide it. However, Waves got too late in this regard. As a result, other coins have already done everything Waves aimed to do. I hate Sasha because of that. but i'm not hate sasha, because this guy with wavesplatform give me a good profit my friend,, i invest in waves ICO and sell all my coins when the price hit about $12, thats why i don't agree with the OP if waves is a scam because until now waves still exist in the market and sasha continue develop this project regards Ah. i would fall in love with Sasha if i had x50 from the ico ;D Anyway, waves still looks good with its tech. But it is a little bit too late to hope over hundreds of dollars per waves, like we dreamed in 2017. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: slaman29 on October 27, 2020, 07:07:40 AM First of all to you guys posting above, you do realize it's a post made in 2018 right?
Secondly, I actually thought Waves was a good coin, and probably still is. Just a total sleeper that somehow keeps passing people by. It's not got fantastic tech (but is supposed to be among the fastest chains) but they really know how to do user interface and UX IMO. Even their retired lite was a beast in its day. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: cepot9 on October 27, 2020, 05:02:20 PM To my knowledge, they didn't commit any scams, this project was really good and hype in its day. It's quite a shame because their team was too slow in development so that other projects have already found the idea that they should be able to do.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: dishku on October 27, 2020, 05:19:17 PM To my knowledge, they didn't commit any scams, this project was really good and hype in its day. It's quite a shame because their team was too slow in development so that other projects have already found the idea that they should be able to do. But it's obvious why people are talking in dead thread that was started few years ago and now sudden get active. If anybody had any issue than he should start a new topic and let's discuss whether it's scam or legit project. That's really when OP let the topic without lock. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: bitcoin31 on October 27, 2020, 09:45:30 PM It is not scam for me but it's lost it's potentiality as a coin because there is no improvement that I saw in the past few years happen.
I had waves coin and I believed to it before but after year It lost my trust to the coin but if a people want to invest to that coin is depends to them because maybe for me is not potential but for them is still potential we are different see about on every coin. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Pulsar77 on October 28, 2020, 12:12:45 AM Waves was one of the coins I trusted most in the past. Back then, the market needed a decentralized exchange, and Waves would provide it. However, Waves got too late in this regard. As a result, other coins have already done everything Waves aimed to do. I hate Sasha because of that. but i'm not hate sasha, because this guy with wavesplatform give me a good profit my friend,, i invest in waves ICO and sell all my coins when the price hit about $12, thats why i don't agree with the OP if waves is a scam because until now waves still exist in the market and sasha continue develop this project regards The reason why I hate Sasha is not that I was losing money because of the waves. I think he is too lazy. If he was able to do what he promised in 2017, I think the price of waves would be at least $ 100. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: malcovi2 on October 28, 2020, 02:44:24 AM Waves was one of the coins I trusted most in the past. Back then, the market needed a decentralized exchange, and Waves would provide it. However, Waves got too late in this regard. As a result, other coins have already done everything Waves aimed to do. I hate Sasha because of that. but i'm not hate sasha, because this guy with wavesplatform give me a good profit my friend,, i invest in waves ICO and sell all my coins when the price hit about $12, thats why i don't agree with the OP if waves is a scam because until now waves still exist in the market and sasha continue develop this project regards The reason why I hate Sasha is not that I was losing money because of the waves. I think he is too lazy. If he was able to do what he promised in 2017, I think the price of waves would be at least $ 100. well lucky for me i got swayed when i check into his history.. lmao forex trader.. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: thuyvy2207 on October 28, 2020, 04:56:12 AM To my knowledge, they didn't commit any scams, this project was really good and hype in its day. It's quite a shame because their team was too slow in development so that other projects have already found the idea that they should be able to do. They aren't scam because scam can't last long in cryptocurrency, perhaps there is a misunderstanding here. Waves is a good project, before many people thought it was a very strong opponent of ETH but the development wasn't good, it stopped.Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on October 28, 2020, 07:07:43 AM Does waves.exchange is the official exchange for waves? Just asking this because I have been scammed for some small of amount of waves on that exchange platform. I just wanted to confirm if this is connected to that or not. The scam was they promoted on twitter saying that they would sell, or we can buy a coin to their website, withdraw it and exchange it on Yobit (it happened a year a go I think?) I am not saying that Wave cypto is a scam, I;m more likely referring to the exchange platform. All this shit is a scam. Waves is an instamined scam, with premine 100 Million shit-coins, in the first block: https://wavesblockexplorer.com/blocks/1 Their main gateways is a scam: https://coinomat.com And waves.exchange is scam too, just because there can be closed trading by any asset, by admins. For example: WUSD (Waves USD), and the same name of this - cUSD (coinomat USD), WEUR (Waves EUR), and the same name of this - cEUR (coinomat EUR), https://waves.exchange/trade/CUSD_CEUR is not trading from fucking April 2020. This is official Waves USD and EUR token, the first tokens, which was been issued on WavesPlatform, by founders, and which was been traded from 2016-th year at price 1 USD and 1 EUR for each token. Now, all traders, and holders, just own an illiquid shit, and money was been stoled by coinomat.com: https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL Waves.exchange, did banned the trading by this assets, and no any answer, and no any actions to resume this fucking trading, just answers, with posting the links on coinomat.com scam-site, and ban then, or leave from the chats. Of course, no any answer from coinomat.com, because they are a fucking scammers, who stoled money from traders, half-year ago. Fuck this dirty scam. Maybe they finance a terrorists, or just buy narcotics for themself, using our stoled money. Yea, there is possible to trade that shit, because this is a DEX, but noone do not want to keep hosting, for THEIR OWN instant-mined premines, and noone do not want to trading their scam-shit-tokens, after fraud, and scam-actions, on this scam-shit-platform. Moreover, noone no need to buy this shit, just because blockchain-height is over 2M blocks, and will be better and more easy to make fork, like TurtleNetwork (https://turtlenetwork.blackturtle.eu), which is more cheaply, than this overpriced scam shit-coin. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: gamer4156 on October 28, 2020, 01:17:56 PM I figure you should investigate the mirror and point fingers at the individual in the mirror, I have cautioned individuals a few time about a portion of these airdrops imagine, you ought to have posed the inquiry does it truly justified, despite any trouble prior to putting resources into the token in light of the fact that toward the day's end the whole of what you are given is the majority of the immortal than your genuine interest in the token.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Jendral Istimewa on October 28, 2020, 01:24:46 PM How can you say that Waves Scam, just because of your mistake? Waves is a great token and project. Indeed this is a good coin, on coinmarketcap Waves is in the 45th position.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: krisnajsadrak on October 28, 2020, 04:12:44 PM How can you say that Waves Scam, just because of your mistake? Waves is a great token and project. Indeed this is a good coin, on coinmarketcap Waves is in the 45th position. to be honest my friend waves is not a token, this is a coin with its own blockchain and yes, waves not a scam project like the OP said, this is a complete altcoin with complete features maybe this project need to create another marketing campaign Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on October 30, 2020, 01:56:49 PM I figure you should investigate the mirror and point fingers at the individual in the mirror, I have cautioned individuals a few time about a portion of these airdrops imagine, you ought to have posed the inquiry does it truly justified, despite any trouble prior to putting resources into the token in light of the fact that toward the day's end the whole of what you are given is the majority of the immortal than your genuine interest in the token. While this shit was been in the top of coinmarketcap, I did think so too. But, after scam on WUSD and WEUR, on April 2020, I see the real "market" of this shit. Fake volumes, no any support, just stole trader's money, and ban then, then. Now, I understand, why this shit was been top-ranked. The trading bots just sell and buy INSTANT-MINED-coins many-many times, and real volumes of trading was been $0/day, there. SCAM. How can you say that Waves Scam, just because of your mistake? Waves is a great token and project. Indeed this is a good coin, on coinmarketcap Waves is in the 45th position. If this shit is a scam, this is a scam. What mistake are you talking about?How can you say that Waves Scam, just because of your mistake? Waves is a great token and project. Indeed this is a good coin, on coinmarketcap Waves is in the 45th position. to be honest my friend waves is not a token, this is a coin with its own blockchain and yes, waves not a scam project like the OP said, this is a complete altcoin with complete features maybe this project need to create another marketing campaign This is an instant-mined and really - illiquid scam-shit, which was been issued just to stole a real money from real traders. This is something, like another shit-coin, which have prices lesser than 1 satoshi on https://graviex.net . And their fiat-accosiated shit-tokens, really, do not cost nothing https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL. Like that Sasha's Ivanov scam-asset: https://coinmarketcap.com/en/currencies/coinousd/ Fuck this SCAM-WAVES. Need to delist this shit from everywhere, because this is a dirty scam. >:( And nothing will help them, no any "marketing", just because they have sunk to the level of rats. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Hemady17 on October 30, 2020, 11:39:39 PM Waves is a good coin but a red flag to my portfolio, why? When I bought waves during its pumping. It easily move down due to the market condition. I twicely bought some shares of it but it all failed to give me profits. Since then, I never bought waves and add to my watchlist. However, I never say that it is a scam just because I lose. It just the market condition of waves does not fit to my approach in trading. It is not a scam, because it existed even before.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on October 31, 2020, 02:30:33 AM Waves is a good coin but a red flag to my portfolio, why? When I bought waves during its pumping. It easily move down due to the market condition. I twicely bought some shares of it but it all failed to give me profits. Since then, I never bought waves and add to my watchlist. However, I never say that it is a scam just because I lose. It just the market condition of waves does not fit to my approach in trading. It is not a scam, because it existed even before. Your portfolio is clean, and maybe noone do not want to make this dirty, because you are just a trader, and you did not scam anyone. But red flag, IMHO, need to open for topic-starter of waves-topic, for Sasha Ivanov, because his coinomat is a scam, like his illiquid coinoUSD. How is possible to lost ALL FUCKING MONEY, on the SPOT-exchange, on DEX? Do you know? Yes, this really possible, after the primitive dirty manipulations by this rats: https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL And what do I see, from April 2020, within half-year, after SCAM? How they are sucking, and do nothing, and just ban me everywhere, and continue to keep holding my LAST FUCKING MONEY, as the limit of their rat's dreams. Fucking sucking rats... WAVES IS A DIRTY SCAM. Need to delist this instant-mined scam-shit from everywhere, to prevent more and more scams, as result of payouts for more and more advertising, and pay for it, from already stoled trader's money. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: X-ray on October 31, 2020, 02:53:34 AM Waves is a good coin but a red flag to my portfolio, why? When I bought waves during its pumping. It easily move down due to the market condition. I twicely bought some shares of it but it all failed to give me profits. Since then, I never bought waves and add to my watchlist. However, I never say that it is a scam just because I lose. It just the market condition of waves does not fit to my approach in trading. It is not a scam, because it existed even before. Your portfolio is clean, and maybe noone do not want to make this dirty, because you are just a trader, and you did not scam anyone. But red flag, IMHO, need to open for topic-starter of waves-topic, for Sasha Ivanov, because his coinomat is a scam, like his illiquid coinoUSD. How is possible to lost ALL FUCKING MONEY, on the SPOT-exchange, on DEX? Do you know? Yes, this really possible, after the primitive dirty manipulations by this rats: https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL And what do I see, from April 2020, within half-year, after SCAM? How they are sucking, and do nothing, and just ban me everywhere, and continue to keep holding my LAST FUCKING MONEY, as the limit of their rat's dreams. Fucking sucking rats... WAVES IS A DIRTY SCAM. Need to delist this instant-mined scam-shit from everywhere, to prevent more and more scams, as result of payouts for more and more advertising, and pay for it, from already stoled trader's money. What a joke from waves platform, this is my first time to see there's a stable coin that already traded for 10 times less than its initial price. Coinomat is more than enough to prove if this platform was a crap platform and full with shit scam developers. Why are there so many people still buying this crap coins? Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: carlisle1 on October 31, 2020, 04:00:36 AM Your portfolio is clean, and maybe noone do not want to make this dirty, because you are just a trader, and you did not scam anyone. But red flag, IMHO, need to open for topic-starter of waves-topic, for Sasha Ivanov, because his coinomat is a scam, like his illiquid coinoUSD. How is possible to lost ALL FUCKING MONEY, on the SPOT-exchange, on DEX? Do you know? Yes, this really possible, after the primitive dirty manipulations by this rats: https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL And what do I see, from April 2020, within half-year, after SCAM? How they are sucking, and do nothing, and just ban me everywhere, and continue to keep holding my LAST FUCKING MONEY, as the limit of their rat's dreams. Fucking sucking rats... WAVES IS A DIRTY SCAM. Need to delist this instant-mined scam-shit from everywhere, to prevent more and more scams, as result of payouts for more and more advertising, and pay for it, from already stoled trader's money. But i am also happy because i did sold out all my holdings in mid of 2018 and never re buy again instead i transfer my funds from waves to Ethereum,things that now i am surely correct in that decision. Waves is a good coin but a red flag to my portfolio, why? When I bought waves during its pumping. It easily move down due to the market condition. I twicely bought some shares of it but it all failed to give me profits. Since then, I never bought waves and add to my watchlist. However, I never say that it is a scam just because I lose. It just the market condition of waves does not fit to my approach in trading. It is not a scam, because it existed even before. I think your experience is enough to tell that investing in Waves will not bring us any good now or even in future.so good that you stops buying this and put money in other coins. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Nellayar on October 31, 2020, 01:28:17 PM Snip. Maybe, OP just said it to waves because he had lose a certain value in waves. Its natural and common to lose in cryptocurrency specially if you bought in altcoins. Waves is not a scam coin, it functions a lot to the blockchain technology ecosystem. Waves is listed as well in different exchanges and use by different platform to receive payments such gambling sites. Therefore, waves is not a scam. It is just an opinion based upon OPs idea. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: imstillthebest on October 31, 2020, 02:49:25 PM Snip. Maybe, OP just said it to waves because he had lose a certain value in waves. Its natural and common to lose in cryptocurrency specially if you bought in altcoins. Waves is not a scam coin, it functions a lot to the blockchain technology ecosystem. Waves is listed as well in different exchanges and use by different platform to receive payments such gambling sites. Therefore, waves is not a scam. It is just an opinion based upon OPs idea. he did loose because the value of his wct token dropped but as you said that's normal . Loosing and calling the platform where you loose a scam is a childish act . reminds of those gamblers that frequently create a scam accuse because they also loose a crypto on the gambling site where they play . He didn't read the rules properly before he did such act and he got screwed . He got small BCH reward because maybe there were lots of participants . Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: AjithBtc on October 31, 2020, 04:38:09 PM Op has just created the thread once after losing. This is out of frustration and this might've happened with him for the very first time. He had gone inactive last June. Waves is a good platform, which has got its usage in all sectors. If it is a scam or fraud project now it could've got a several scam accusations. The profitability out of waves in comparison to its initial launch price is very big and now it sits at 42nd position with good market volume.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Renampun on October 31, 2020, 05:50:25 PM ... I don't know the actual chronology which caused you trouble with Waves...Personally, I never use Waves but if you see it from the crowd, it seems like you are the only one who has problems with Waves. Waves are ranked 42 at the moment, so please tell your complaints to Waves so that your problem is over. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on November 01, 2020, 12:33:41 AM What a joke from waves platform, this is my first time to see there's a stable coin that already traded for 10 times less than its initial price. Coinomat is more than enough to prove if this platform was a crap platform and full with shit scam developers. Why are there so many people still buying this crap coins? As you can see there (https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL), this scam was been at April 2020. And all this time, more than half-year, they just keep holding stoled trader's money, and just ban them, and ignorring. The sheme of scam is the same as this Ivanov's "stable" shit-coin: https://coinmarketcap.com/en/currencies/coinousd/ Issue shit from the air, sell this, and then, hold money, and just close trading. Op has just created the thread once after losing. This is out of frustration and this might've happened with him for the very first time. He had gone inactive last June. Waves is a good platform, which has got its usage in all sectors. If it is a scam or fraud project now it could've got a several scam accusations. The profitability out of waves in comparison to its initial launch price is very big and now it sits at 42nd position with good market volume. IMHO, WAVES is a dirty scam, just because this have no any real value.This is a forked from NXT, and instant-mined (https://wavesblockexplorer.com/blocks/1) scam shit-token, where stoled traders money just re-invested into advertising, and into the listings on an exchanges, and where trading volumes are increasing by trading bots, while real trading volumes is something about $0/day. When I did buy this shit, it has rank 21 on coinmarketcap.com, with market capitalization over 200 millions of dollars. But... Why they are stole my last money, and just keep holding this shit, within half-year? Just because really, they do not do NOTHING, and real volumes of trading is null. And on the background of this null volumes, I just buy this scam with REAL VOLUME. Really, this is a rat's and suckers, who are ready sit and suck within half-year. All their "capitalizations" is fake, because trading volumes is fake. Just trading bots buy and sell an instant-mined volumes many-many times per day, for themselves addresses. I did invest in this shit my last 2 BTC (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/72c168445e105abf9e704a77b5048d4c53af20c1ecd230ddafa398c3574b9b0e), which was not been stoled at that time, on this fake bot's "market". But where do you see this 2 BTC, on my account? https://w8io.ru/3PPTYsB78vQ5B7to1PHmgW6Bqdkkfavdcjn All fucking "trading" is transparent. And as you ca see, only illiquid shit-tokens, there was been "traded", on this scam-platform, just to stole that micro-satohies, within 1 year. You can not see even 7000 USD on my account, there, because after coinomat's primitive manipulation, I have 7000 WUSD (cUSD), which are illiquid instant-mined and burned scam shit-token, issued by this rat's. I lost more than 1 year, without any fucking profit, from this "trading", where this fucking rat's do not let to exit even in null percent of profit, and moreover, as you can see, I got $0 for my 2 BTC, on the SPOT-EXCHANGE, just because WAVES is a DIRTY SCAM. Also, we do not know, how many terrorists, they already financed for stoled money from trader's, and IMHO, need to delist this dangerous scam, from everywhere, just because they have no such market cap, and they have no any rights to trade this shit, at price higher 1 satoshie. Else, they did not let themselves to keep holding the limit of their dreams, my fucking last money, and did not let themselves to sit in the shit, within half-year, and suck, suck suck, even without any fucking usa-migrant's salary. Just 2 migrants with minimum salary, for a half-year, can earn and turn back for me my money, without any problems, but this rat's have 180 peoples, and suck suck suck, in their dirty scam-platform, and just stole a fucking satoshies. This means, all this community is worse than just 2 migrants. Fuck this scam platform. Bvuuuuueeeeeee... Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: stadus on November 02, 2020, 06:54:22 AM Op has just created the thread once after losing. This is out of frustration and this might've happened with him for the very first time. He had gone inactive last June. Waves is a good platform, which has got its usage in all sectors. If it is a scam or fraud project now it could've got a several scam accusations. The profitability out of waves in comparison to its initial launch price is very big and now it sits at 42nd position with good market volume. Sometimes we really see people accusing a project as a scam once they lost money on it. Even before when bitcoin dump at below $5,000, I've read a lot of comments saying bitcoin is a scam, but where are we now, isn't it bitcoin is so bullish. Waves may not as successful as other project but it has its successful time, the problem maybe is that we fail to pull the trigger and we choose to be greedy. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Mulann2 on November 02, 2020, 01:41:58 PM Snip. Maybe, OP just said it to waves because he had lose a certain value in waves. Its natural and common to lose in cryptocurrency specially if you bought in altcoins. Waves is not a scam coin, it functions a lot to the blockchain technology ecosystem. Waves is listed as well in different exchanges and use by different platform to receive payments such gambling sites. Therefore, waves is not a scam. It is just an opinion based upon OPs idea. yeah some people a very good at playing the blame game, looking for who to blame for their investment issues, i believe when you made your choice to invest or buy waves you didn't contact the ceo sasha, now he quickly open a thread to slam and call names just because of some flaws, every investment always comes with a risk, @op you should have thought of the risk. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: sana54210 on November 02, 2020, 05:42:59 PM Talking about a project owner being a scammer and talking about a project being scam are two different things and that is the distinction people are not making. I will never go against someone who says that there is a project owner or a team that did something scammy or shady and stole money from people, if they say their money was stolen it is their problem and they have every right to say whatever they want, doesn't mean I will care or act accordingly, I will ignore it because that is my right but he can complain and that is his right.
However when you talk about the whole coin to be a scam, that is a bit wrong because project is there, the coin is there, the whitepaper is there and code is there, basically there is nothing wrong with the project itself. It is the people you want to call scam, not the coin itself. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on November 03, 2020, 01:43:48 AM Talking about a project owner being a scammer and talking about a project being scam are two different things and that is the distinction people are not making. I will never go against someone who says that there is a project owner or a team that did something scammy or shady and stole money from people, if they say their money was stolen it is their problem and they have every right to say whatever they want, doesn't mean I will care or act accordingly, I will ignore it because that is my right but he can complain and that is his right. However when you talk about the whole coin to be a scam, that is a bit wrong because project is there, the coin is there, the whitepaper is there and code is there, basically there is nothing wrong with the project itself. It is the people you want to call scam, not the coin itself. This altcoin is scam, when this was been pre-issued by stuff, who are scammers, and who already did scammed the traders, and stoled their money. Really, look at this instant-mined mined shit-tokens: https://wavesblockexplorer.com/blocks/1 If this was been issued by scammers, is this have a some real price, or not? So why this is still overpriced? Just because coin is a SCAM, and trading volumes is fake! They can not let for peoples, to buy back this shit, at low prices, just to burn it then, moreover peoples can not buy this at few sat's, like another shit-coin, because this scammers just already stoled their fucking money. So they just continue to keep holding the peoples pennies, and holding of this instant-mined scam-shit, by millions, on their fucking addresses, and really - do NOTHING. And they are really ready to suck, with this dirty and stoled, not their crypto-shit, within half-years (my case with WUSD), year (my case with my BTC), and maybe within a years, or moreover - within decades. Because really, noone do not want to buy dirty shit-coins from the rat's, and only fake volumes, can draw an illusion of existing some "trading volumes", to let them really sell their fucking instant-mined volumes, for a real, but new suckers, and scam them, then, and keep their pennies and satoshies, just to make an another their rat's day, and reinvest stoled money into dull PR again, and again (in fact - just pay for that bot, who posting a large images in the topic, to hide a real problems, and to not resolve this). SCAM. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: coiner-88 on November 03, 2020, 05:34:33 AM ICO market was blasting all these token making stage was making some acceptable memories and the decentralized trade was intriguing however the issue with the market is that anybody could make counterfeit tokens and it will be difficult for new clients to follow everything and many got misled. so the two of them are without a doubt making some great memories yet eth stage was may more indemand than waves since they state the nature of coin will be better if its under the eth stage.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: ichi on November 03, 2020, 12:03:33 PM I figure you ought to research the mirror and point fingers at the person in the mirror, I have advised people a couple of time about a segment of these airdrops envision, you should have represented the request does it really defended, notwithstanding any difficulty before placing assets into the token considering the way that toward the day's end the entire of what you are given is most of the undying than your certified interest in the token.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on November 06, 2020, 01:26:57 AM however the issue with the market is that anybody could make counterfeit tokens Yeap, even the rat's staff of this scam-platform.Because, as you can see here http://dev.pywaves.org/assets/ , the WUSD, and WEUR tokens, was been issued by https://coinomat.com , CEO of which (https://ru.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/Aлeкcaндp_Ивaнoв#.D0.91.D0.B8.D0.BE.D0.B3.D1.80.D0.B0.D1.84.D0.B8.D1.8F) is topic-starter of this topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3223136.msg33523654#msg33523654), and this was been a first tokens on the WavesPlatform, with number 12 and 15: Quote 15 11/29/2016 13:10:42 3PC4roN512iugc6xGVTTM2XkoWKEdSiiscd Gtb1WRznfchDnTh37ezoDTJ4wcoKaRsKqKjJjy7nm2zU (http://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Gtb1WRznfchDnTh37ezoDTJ4wcoKaRsKqKjJjy7nm2zU) WEUR Official EUR token And this was been an official fiat-associated tokens for all WavesPlatform,... 12 11/29/2016 12:55:30 3PC4roN512iugc6xGVTTM2XkoWKEdSiiscd Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck (http://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck) WUSD Official USD token and this tokens was been traded 1:1 for USD and EUR, from 2016 year: https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL But this shit-assets is a fake surrogate, like that CoinoUSD (https://coinmarketcap.com/en/currencies/coinousd/), which was been issued just to stole the traders money, in this dirty SCAM, and just to keep holding it, and just to continue suck with it. I figure you ought to research the mirror and point fingers at the person in the mirror, I have advised people a couple of time about a segment of these airdrops envision, you should have represented the request does it really defended, notwithstanding any difficulty before placing assets into the token considering the way that toward the day's end the entire of what you are given is most of the undying than your certified interest in the token. Pffff...Some rats stole our family budget, our LAST MONEY, and keep holding this more than half of year, and should I be to blame? Who are you protecting here? I do not understand... You try to protecting this poor, rat's manipulators, who are draw fake prices and fake capitalizations, but really who are ready to stole trader's micro-satoshies, just to make their another rat's day? I don’t think so. Rather, you are just trying to protect "your capital", which really, maybe, has already been stolen on this scam-platform. WAVES IS A DIRTY SCAM! Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: psiz on May 26, 2021, 05:59:47 PM Waves btc algotrading is scam.. dont invest btc.
is it normal that you said the maximum historical drawdown is : 36.63%, I invested 3btc few days ago and from your bot history, we went from 2.87216btc to 1.87761btc in few days which is 41.8778% difference so the historical drawdown is now 41.8778%? ... I am just disappointed at the 105%/yr and now being down alot by the way I can affrod the lost but it is dissapointing.... I think you started your bot 1st April and since then it's alot down and nobody can prove your old history. Sorry for this but I don't want to be scammed, I'm new at crypto since 6 months was making good money holding. My main question is : Can your bot liquidate me and I lose all my money at the end? Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on May 27, 2021, 03:34:07 PM Waves btc algotrading is scam.. dont invest btc. is it normal that you said the maximum historical drawdown is : 36.63%, I invested 3btc few days ago and from your bot history, we went from 2.87216btc to 1.87761btc in few days which is 41.8778% difference so the historical drawdown is now 41.8778%? ... I am just disappointed at the 105%/yr and now being down alot by the way I can affrod the lost but it is dissapointing.... I think you started your bot 1st April and since then it's alot down and nobody can prove your old history. Sorry for this but I don't want to be scammed, I'm new at crypto since 6 months was making good money holding. My main question is : Can your bot liquidate me and I lose all my money at the end? I buyed this scam-shit, WAVES, at price $2.41 (something about ~0.00026000 BTC/WAVES), in june-july 2019, with volume of just 2 BTC, on the WAVES-DEX, and within more than 1 year, up to august 2020, the price of this scam-shit was dumped to $0.86/WAVES (0.00007000 BTC/for each scam-shit), and never not reached 2.41, really. Just with volume of 2 BTC!! I had no any ability to turn back my BTC in the trading on this scam-platform, and after this scammers, just decided to stole all my money, including the last money (just a $7k), then they got an ability to overprice their dirty bubble, with already stoled my money, and BTC. Now, this scammers, owe me, about ~$500k for my stoled crypto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1394689.msg57072055#msg57072055), and my money still not paybacked, dispite the fact of request the payback. WAVES IS A DIRTY SCAM-SHIT. See all proofs in my last posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1105573;sa=showPosts). Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: andulolika on May 30, 2021, 12:43:11 PM go fuck yourself, you don't even know how to fud a legit project.
Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: crypto_trader#43xzEXrP on June 04, 2021, 11:55:47 PM go fuck yourself, you don't even know how to fud a legit project. What?? I deposited 2 fucking BTC in this scam-shit more than 1.5 years ago, and still did not got nothing.This rats just stoled my crypto with value of 500k I have the proofs, and this proofs was been already posted on this forum. Legit-scam-shit sounds like good, but STFU. Title: Re: Waves - is a Scam and fraud? Post by: Benefactor on June 05, 2021, 05:17:01 PM I wrote to further, individuals comprehend what can be with such extraordinary advancements of this stage and the amount they will get coin. Continuously recall that airdrops. doesn't bring a very remarkable fortune and the waves airdrop IMO is ordinary. You just misjudged the standards of the airdrop in any case.
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