Waves - is a Scam and fraud?

[leea-1334]

crypto_trader#43xzEXrP it is very hard to understand exactly what it is you are trying to say but I think you are saying that everything in terms of volume can be fakes and on an open platform, you can also wash/launder money,,, I agree 100% here but could we not say the same for most altcoins?

[Barbut]

crypto_trader#43xzEXrP it is very hard to understand exactly what it is you are trying to say but I think you are saying that everything in terms of volume can be fakes and on an open platform, you can also wash/launder money,,, I agree 100% here but could we not say the same for most altcoins?

We could say that for most alts and bitcoin too. Why we need to think about who is using it, it's their right to use any coin as they like! Who thinks that crypto is an easier and better way will use it, for legal or illegal purposes. And everything can be faked, volume or usage, but why to go to that negativity. But it's why you need to be careful here and to check something before you begin trusting~
Waves is not a scam, this is just a FUD! Waves is one of the good projects, decentralized and every person can build something there, it's on us to recognize what is good and what is bad and whom to trust.

[jarhed]

Waves is not a bench, you can say, for some people it is a top project, for some people it is not, but personally I believe that this project still has potential and if you study the project carefully, you can invest in it over time.

[crypto_trader#43xzEXrP]

crypto_trader#43xzEXrP it is very hard to understand exactly what it is you are trying to say

I want to say, the following thing...
WAVES - this is instamined SCAM, which was been just sold for BTC, on start, on ICO.
I did deposit there 2 REAL BTC, and do not get nothing, for this BTC.
Only scam-shit-tokens, which is illiquid, and the price of this shit can only go down.
After all, after WUSD-scam,
I don't see any answer from emails - more then 1 month!
I did lost my last liquid asset - 7000 WUSD. I cann't exchange this, and cann't withdraw.
I did got NOTHING for my 2 BTC, and some tricky fat rat, just decided to keep holding my money.
SCAM!

but I think you are saying that everything in terms of volume can be fakes

Yes. If I'll issue 21,000,000 LOLBTC shit-Token on WavesPlatform with 1 billion LOLUSD shit-token,
I can inflate the volumes of trading this shit, just by exchange primine/instamine of this LOLUSD for LOLBTC,
many many times per day. And this actions can be automatized, by using trading-bots.

and on an open platform, you can also wash/launder money...
I agree 100% here but could we not say the same for most altcoins?

What do you mean? I think, that tedious and bureaucratic procedures (AML / KYC),
this is just a tales, to hold real money and not process withdraw-orders on centralized scam-toilets.
Because we are on the "free global market", and this is the main factor, which forms the real equilibrium price.
When some exchanges ask KYC before withdraw, they just lost clients,
just because this degenerative actions reduces asset liquidity,
and another exchanges withdraw this automatically, without any KYC.
For example, I just leave 6000 DOGE on bittrex.com, and never login there,
just because they did ask this fucking KYC,
AFTER TRY TO WITHDRAW MY MONEY.

But, as I said earlier, yes, I can process this fucking KYC/AML procedures,
if this will be really needed, and even show my displeased face,
because in this scam-platform, I deposited all our family budget.

KYC/AML need for the scammers, not for traders,
because, for example, after financial fraud with WUSD and WEUR
was been sold the following volumes of shit-tokens: 11977537.00 WUSD and 13211086.00 WEUR,
and while this shit-tokens are illiquid now, scammers continue to keep holding the real money,
without any KYC/AML,
from which the terrorism can be financed
and military budgets formed for inciting the wars in the World.

And, as I said earlier, WBTC-token was been issued by coinomat-address, too.

SCAM!

Waves is not a scam, this is just a FUD!

Pffffff. Yea, yea... This is just FUD, and no one do not lost ALL MONEY, AFTER SCAM.
You can think so, only in your mind world.

[jahepahit]

if you feel a loss for the project implementer, maybe the main thing you should do is to follow all the official channels of your project. then ask about your problem, maybe there is something that you forget, to make you lose some of the funds you have

[Kang TB]

the OP must read this announcements from waves associations
https://medium.com/waves-association/waves-association-will-distribute-1-mln-waves-in-grants-to-foster-inter-chain-solution-development-7330e968a150
because waves is not a scam and fraud project

[Stavri]

Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels.

[cryptonx]

Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels.

i agree with you if waves isn't a scam project
but what did you mean by price never climbed close to expected levels mate,,
as i know the price of waves on ICO is about $ 0.188 and investors already got a huge profit if we comparing with the ATH price from waves or with the price of waves in this day

[Stavri]

Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels.

i agree with you if waves isn't a scam project
but what did you mean by price never climbed close to expected levels mate,,
as i know the price of waves on ICO is about $ 0.188 and investors already got a huge profit if we comparing with the ATH price from waves or with the price of waves in this day

when waves project launched, it was one of the greatest blockchain solution with a dex integrated. and potential of the project was so high. And that was during 2017 bull run. but unfortunately they couldnt make a good marketing strategy. and when crap projects were rising up, waves was the only one without uptrend.

[milewilda]

Waves is not a scam or fraud for sure. because waves team never stopped developments on tech. But it is a fact that, waves project has always been a disappontment for the holders and investors. Price never climbed close to expected levels.

i agree with you if waves isn't a scam project
but what did you mean by price never climbed close to expected levels mate,,
as i know the price of waves on ICO is about $ 0.188 and investors already got a huge profit if we comparing with the ATH price from waves or with the price of waves in this day

when waves project launched, it was one of the greatest blockchain solution with a dex integrated. and potential of the project was so high. And that was during 2017 bull run. but unfortunately they couldnt make a good marketing strategy. and when crap projects were rising up, waves was the only one without uptrend.

They didnt able to sustain and i remember it clearly that this project also go along with Ethereum back to those old days where Waves is one of the most famous project wayback
but later on eth did able to cover waves in the dust when the time where market had been flooded out by projects made up on erc20.If they do able to put up some
time or focus on marketing and with some updates then they really might able to gain one of the top spot on the entire market but well everything cant really reach
out on whats intended yet it all varies with the demand or interest of people.

[Eureka_07]

Does waves.exchange is the official exchange for waves? Just asking this because I have been scammed for some small of amount of waves on that exchange platform.
I just wanted to confirm if this is connected to that or not.
The scam was they promoted on twitter saying that they would sell, or we can buy a coin to their website, withdraw it and exchange it on Yobit (it happened a year a go I think?)
I am not saying that Wave cypto is a scam, I;m more likely referring to the exchange platform.

[Stavri]

They didnt able to sustain and i remember it clearly that this project also go along with Ethereum back to those old days where Waves is one of the most famous project wayback
but later on eth did able to cover waves in the dust when the time where market had been flooded out by projects made up on erc20.If they do able to put up some
time or focus on marketing and with some updates then they really might able to gain one of the top spot on the entire market but well everything cant really reach
out on whats intended yet it all varies with the demand or interest of people.

Yeah...
Vitalik was very popular (Ofcourse he still is). So ethereum was. Even tech of waves was awesome, Sasha could not manage to advertize and marketing his project because the hype was totally on Ethereum that time.

[peter0425]

the OP must read this announcements from waves associations
https://medium.com/waves-association/waves-association-will-distribute-1-mln-waves-in-grants-to-foster-inter-chain-solution-development-7330e968a150
because waves is not a scam and fraud project

Well they should have done that earlier because this thread was created almost 3 years ago and yet Waves is not that accurate in answering the accusation.
But good thing that they come out for answers.

Yeah...
Vitalik was very popular (Ofcourse he still is). So ethereum was. Even tech of waves was awesome, Sasha could not manage to advertize and marketing his project because the hype was totally on Ethereum that time.

Then at least this accusation might not affect the waves flatform anymore.

[bct_ail]

Does waves.exchange is the official exchange for waves? Just asking this because I have been scammed for some small of amount of waves on that exchange platform.
I just wanted to confirm if this is connected to that or not.
The scam was they promoted on twitter saying that they would sell, or we can buy a coin to their website, withdraw it and exchange it on Yobit (it happened a year a go I think?)
I am not saying that Wave cypto is a scam, I;m more likely referring to the exchange platform.

Was it the waves token or was it a token which was created on the waves Blockchain? If it was the second, it is not the fault from waves, that you got scammed.
Everyone can issue a new token at Waves. That the same like ERC20-Token at Ethereum. There are heaps of scams with ERC20-Token. So would you blame Vitalik for it?

[Shasha80]

Maybe many are disappointed with WAVES because the developer team is not active like TRX and ETH. Therefore, several allegations of
scams against WAVES were not immediately clarified by the development team, which makes WAVES considered an abandoned project
by its developer. Indeed, WAVES is not as good in performance as in 2017-2018, but the performance has improved compared to 2019.
Even in August 2020 WAVES pump was priced at $ 4.5. So in my opinion, investing in WAVES is still profitable.

[Deviljr]

Seems like you're one of those who failed to manage take profits, i guess you need enough courage if you get benefit  from waves. I do trust over waves and have small amount of waves on my wallet. In the long run waves should reach high.

[carlisle1]

Seems like you're one of those who failed to manage take profits, i guess you need enough courage if you get benefit  from waves. I do trust over waves and have small amount of waves on my wallet. In the long run waves should reach high.

Waves in the past specially in 2017 and we can literally check this in graphs

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/

With a Return of Investments at 157% i think this coin really has a future(again in bullrun)

and Calling this as scam or fraud is really irritating specially to those Wave holders and trusting this currency for years now.

[pilosopotasyo]

Waves in the past specially in 2017 and we can literally check this in graphs

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/

With a Return of Investments at 157% i think this coin really has a future(again in bullrun)

and Calling this as scam or fraud is really irritating specially to those Wave holders and trusting this currency for years now.

I am one of the people who's very much surprised to see that there was an accusation about Waves, and why posted it here when there is a scam section, I don't think any accusations here about Waves will stand the price is doing great and so is the volume I read that they are working to collaborate with Tron  about DeFi, not because you did not make a profit you can call a coin a scam.

[didzi]

Seems like you're one of those who failed to manage take profits, i guess you need enough courage if you get benefit  from waves. I do trust over waves and have small amount of waves on my wallet. In the long run waves should reach high.

waves founder is a smart guy, and personally i never think if a scam project become the TOP altcoins in the market
i think the OP just mis understanding about his own issue and wrote here a bad feedback on waves project, because the fact waves is solid and promissing project for me

[Sirait]

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waves founder is a smart guy, and personally i never think if a scam project become the TOP altcoins in the market
i think the OP just mis understanding about his own issue and wrote here a bad feedback on waves project, because the fact waves is solid and promissing project for me

waves are not a scam coin. from the case that I read on the first page, what the OP experienced was just a misunderstanding.

OP does not respond to this topic anymore, it looks like the problem has been resolved.