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Let's start a raffle today!

1st prize - 2018 30 Gram Chinese Gold Panda Coin (BU)

2nd prize - 2016 150 Gram Proof Chinese Silver Panda Coin (Box + CoA)

Ticket price: 0.0135BTC
Ask in PM if you want to pay in another currency.

Address:
16VdiyVwnmxDmpc1B2uu29LXm3nd9N9KBf

Shipping
Included fast shipping worldwide.

Remark:
Items are stored in the warehouses of a supplier, but everything is secured, they will ship items to the winners.

Post here the place you want and transaction id.

Tickets available:
0.
1.
2.
3. Ticked
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6.
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8.
9.
a. Ticked
b.
c.
d.
e.
f . Ticked

A, 3, F

I'm unfamiliar with your account, so ill wait for a member im familiar with to chime in about the trustworthiness/safety.  Then tx will be en route. Hope you dont mind.

Amounts I am escrowing for my campaigns/others are 20 to 30 times larger than this raffle pool, anyway, do as you feel best.

That didnt sound like BS, payment forth coming

https://blockchain.info/tx/7c1be06825c432bb293c618ea1903d9285b4ddaa1c97cdcea8705a9094cbed53

When I saw this thread I thought my account had been hacked. 

Which is fortunately not the case. ;D

Bump!

How do we even know you have these items if you have not posted a time stamped photo with said items?

Can you stop hijacking people's threads mate... First, it was the camgirl's, then hhaumpuz?

OP has ran multiple campaigns handling payments with amounts way bigger than this. Doubt he'll scam for a meager 0.15 BTC

Yeah I bet people didn't think that master-p would scam too right or BFL more recently, I bet people didn't think that xboxme guy would scam for a second time, or liad.servcies was trusted with thousands and thousands of dollars of items and stuff he ended up scamming for under a grand in memory serves me right

and none of those "multiple campaigns", "handling payments with amounts way bigger than this" are properly documented on his trust page



I mean is that even proper english? What does that even mean

Total auction value = approx £300 over the value of the goods on offer.

He could be using the auction proceeds to purchase the goods and pocket the difference, nothing wrong with that but asking a for a real picture of the goods upfront isnt asking too much if he actually owns them currently.

Please read this:

That statement makes no sense in English though

I do not force anyone to join this raffle, and current participant will be refunded if the tickets are not sold.

LMAO so you are auctioning items you don't even own yet and cannot even say that in the OP?

Does this warehouse ship worldwide?

Who pays the VAT?

The gold would be ok shipped to the UK.

The silver coin would be subject to VAT @ 20% + a processing fee.

It would be worth specifying in the original post that the winners are liable for any fees or taxes due.

Why Would that be? The OP says shipping is free,

What does this mean? Not having a pop fella, just want to know is this still at the supplier or another of your warehouses? How soon after the raffle will the items ship?

Killyou is a dick sometimes but the questions from him are valid here

No, everything is paid by me.

Yes, shipping is free.

Items are in the warehouse of a supplier, it will be sent after 3 days maximum.

If everything is done by you can you explain to me how you can operate an auction at a net loss? (espically since you do not even own the items and have to purchase them) Assuming you pay the 20% VAT on the gold and the 20% VAT on the silver

are you just hoping a USA resident wins?

Is this your problem?

How will you handle the vat then? As that is payable on import. I hate to agree with killyou but they do have a point for once.

It's not great form to raffle or auction something that isn't in your possession and saying you will handle VAT charges is slightly silly as you don't know each countries individual tax laws. For instance I have had to pay VAT on gold imports into the UK on multiple occasions

All in all this isn't a good looking raffle fella

Excuse you TMAN, I use the pronoun he and him not they,,, cant believe you are agreeing with me


its not my problem but it looks evident to me you cannot afford to purchase these items without the raffles BTC, because if you did you would purchase them and then  raffle them,

so if you do not have the money to buy the item to begin why would you have the money to operate an raffle at a net loss

Only thing I say is that I will pay every additional cost, that's all, where is the problem?

Haha, do you want me to sign a message from an address to "prove" I own money?

Sure, sign an address that isnt an escrow address that you own the BTC but that really doesnt matter

the problem is that you are raffling an item you do not own at a potential net loss

Here you go:



Do you also need my private keys?

https://i.imgur.com/3r5sNPx.jpg

Just because you have BTC does not mean you won't scam for some more

That is also an address that you literally just sent BTC, maybe you had a friend send you btc so you can sign an address

Wait...what? so for you a friend can literally send you 1.3BTC (which is almost 13000$) just for fun? ::)
(+the transaction has just been confirmed)

Give it up killyou. You are making yourself look like a cunt again.

Sometimes you have a point, but keep going at it and make yourself look like a used condom

There is no VAT on gold only silver.

The silver panda coin is with roughly around £175 so £35 VAT + around a £15 handling charge.  He has around a £300 profit margin so can cover shipping + fees and still be £200+ up.

Tman. There is no VAT due on investment gold into the UK.  Only silver, platinum and palladium.

All you should have had to do is sign a disclaimer stating that is investment gold for customs and excise.  If the shipping company did charge you then you can claim it back.  I am 100% certain on this (speaking from someone that had 9 X 1kg gold bars shipped in to the UK from Canada + coins from the US, Australia, Spain and France.

Depends on courier. Sometimes you have to pay it and claim it back from customs. Pain in the arse I know but it can happen

I was under the impression that within EU there would be no additional VAT charges, no?

VAT is payable on silver.  I got hit with a £18 charge on the 150g silver proof panda I won here :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2917317.0

I'm talking within EU. The thread you are referencing is an item shipped from USA.

Also, I clearly state in my raffles that the winner is responsible for local customs and duties which I feel should be standard

I definitely agree on that, but in this case, where I believe the OP is sending these items from within EU there are no extra duties, regardless of who wins it and where they are located (not 100% sure about Asian countries but if winner is from USA/EU).

No complaints here, fully expected to get hit with a charge was just hoping it would sneak through unnoticed :)

Raffle is cancelled since there is not enough affluence, will update here with a tx id when Ticked get refunded.

Edit:
Refunded https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/f7972acb7909cf305fa6a0abce1b640952e9c916e6dd3ecb95ad0e47cb3f8cba