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Title: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Kim Jong Un on September 24, 2013, 06:23:20 PM
North Korea has been voted the most popular country in the world.

So please tell me, how do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?

Sincerely,
Supreme Leader of Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Kim Jong Un


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: pedrog on September 24, 2013, 09:09:19 PM
The Internet is a scary and powerful tool against the state, good thing the people of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea don't have access to it, and that is not a problem, people can store their bitcoins in this latest technological breakthrough:

http://beijingcream.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/48-North-Koreas-secret-weapon.jpg


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Ekaros on September 24, 2013, 09:27:41 PM
You are not to underestimate the effectiveness of sneakernet...

NK is bit on authoritarian side for this forums preferences I think...


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: pedrog on September 24, 2013, 09:29:03 PM
You are not to underestimate the effectiveness of sneakernet...

NK is bit on authoritarian side for this forums preferences I think...

No it isn't, they have Democratic in the name!!!  :D


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Ekaros on September 24, 2013, 09:37:39 PM
You are not to underestimate the effectiveness of sneakernet...

NK is bit on authoritarian side for this forums preferences I think...

No it isn't, they have Democratic in the name!!!  :D

So United States of America is less democratic as they don't have democratic or Republic in it's name?


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: pedrog on September 24, 2013, 09:52:05 PM
You are not to underestimate the effectiveness of sneakernet...

NK is bit on authoritarian side for this forums preferences I think...

No it isn't, they have Democratic in the name!!!  :D

So United States of America is less democratic as they don't have democratic or Republic in it's name?

It's just a joke...


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Wilikon on September 24, 2013, 09:54:38 PM
The Internet is a scary and powerful tool against the state, good thing the people of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea don't have access to it, and that is not a problem, people can store their bitcoins in this latest technological breakthrough:

http://beijingcream.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/48-North-Koreas-secret-weapon.jpg


Back in the old age of Atari ST, Amiga 1000, we use to exchange our games in shoe boxes from all over Europe. The shoe box was the unit of floppies the "big nodes" would use and copy. It was almost a full time job for them. You only had one (expensive) machine.
NK is pretty bleak no matter who's in charge.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: RoadToHell on September 25, 2013, 01:46:31 PM
Oh crap - Is that the NOC list?


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Reaper3 on September 25, 2013, 03:07:33 PM
lol :D


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: b!z on September 28, 2013, 07:21:50 AM
How many BTC are in the NK treasury?


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: pedrog on September 28, 2013, 02:38:39 PM
How many BTC are in the NK treasury?

They have all, the new ones being mined are just NK being generous.  :D


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 28, 2013, 02:49:35 PM
Does anyone know what percentage of the North Korean population has access to broadband internet? 


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: pedrog on September 28, 2013, 02:56:04 PM
Does anyone know what percentage of the North Korean population has access to broadband internet? 

Probably, only the elite can have Internet access.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: qwk on September 28, 2013, 05:35:47 PM
My bounty of 1 BTC for a special postcard from North Korea is still open:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=258745.msg2761795#msg2761795 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=258745.msg2761795#msg2761795)

Any takers? Kim? ;D


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: xsfgsdrwe on September 28, 2013, 07:09:56 PM
How many BTC are in the NK treasury?

They have all, the new ones being mined are just NK being generous.  :D


Sounds right.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: CEG5952 on September 28, 2013, 07:30:10 PM
The Internet is a scary and powerful tool against the state, good thing the people of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea don't have access to it, and that is not a problem, people can store their bitcoins in this latest technological breakthrough:

http://beijingcream.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/48-North-Koreas-secret-weapon.jpg

 :D

Welcome, oh great one!


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: peonminer on September 28, 2013, 07:41:11 PM
I think Kim Jong Un has an import ban on everything EXCEPT twinkies. ;)


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: ronimacarroni on September 28, 2013, 08:16:08 PM
I think Kim Jong Un has an import ban on everything EXCEPT twinkies. ;)
Twinkies are imperialist food for greedy capitalist consumerist american gluttons.
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/8846/rations.jpg


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: HenryRomp on September 29, 2013, 04:13:14 AM
I was thinking just the other day about how great it would be to do some sort of crowdfunded operation where you make hundreds of thousands of USB keys with Liberte Linux or some similar setup, then covertly distribute them in places like north korea.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: markjamrobin on September 29, 2013, 04:16:09 AM
I was thinking just the other day about how great it would be to do some sort of crowdfunded operation where you make hundreds of thousands of USB keys with Liberte Linux or some similar setup, then covertly distribute them in places like north korea.

Nothing like getting shot at... And only in pyongyang is there wifi. Heavily monitored by the government.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: HenryRomp on September 29, 2013, 04:29:14 AM
Hmm... What kind of cell phone coverage infrastructure do they have? I suppose distributing satellite-internet-enabled devices would be prohibitively costly...

Still, there should be some sort of "save the koreans by giving them internet access" thing going on


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: markjamrobin on September 29, 2013, 04:38:06 AM
Hmm... What kind of cell phone coverage infrastructure do they have? I suppose distributing satellite-internet-enabled devices would be prohibitively costly...

Still, there should be some sort of "save the koreans by giving them internet access" thing going on

That actually would be a good idea, maybe do one for multiple local rebel groups. Would be somewhat hard to smuggle in, especially if you wanted to direct it inside NK.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: b!z on October 02, 2013, 12:59:37 PM
Hmm... What kind of cell phone coverage infrastructure do they have? I suppose distributing satellite-internet-enabled devices would be prohibitively costly...

Still, there should be some sort of "save the koreans by giving them internet access" thing going on

That actually would be a good idea, maybe do one for multiple local rebel groups. Would be somewhat hard to smuggle in, especially if you wanted to direct it inside NK.

After connecting to the Internet for the first time in North Korea:
http://pixelsmashers.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Police-Raid.jpg


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: The Goat Master on October 02, 2013, 11:48:29 PM
Does anyone know what percentage of the North Korean population has access to broadband internet? 

Probably, only the elite can have Internet access.

Only the ruling class, actually.  :) :D


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: monbux on October 08, 2013, 08:22:38 PM
My only knowledge of North Korea is that they want to bomb the US.
AND the citizens inhabiting in there are not allowed any sources of news other than just in North Korea, no internet.

Leaving the best to yourself, eh?


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on October 08, 2013, 08:24:20 PM
IF you start hashing you can get food aid :)


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: BitChick on October 09, 2013, 01:41:49 AM
If North Korea was smart they would buy as much Bitcoin as possible.  Their currency is not worth much.

Also, they will not be able to counterfeit the new US $100 bills very easily:

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/2013/1008/New-100-bill-why-North-Korea-won-t-be-very-happy-video


I was hoping Kim Jong-Un, as a fan of Rodman (he at least likes some American sports!)  would embrace capitalism and create a more democratic society.  I guess the apple does not fall far from the tree, unfortunately.




Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: BitChick on October 09, 2013, 01:45:11 AM
I was thinking just the other day about how great it would be to do some sort of crowdfunded operation where you make hundreds of thousands of USB keys with Liberte Linux or some similar setup, then covertly distribute them in places like north korea.

They drop Bibles using helium filled ballons.  I am sure that USB keys could be distributed the same way.

The only problem:  Who actually even has computers there??? They would not even know what a USB stick is.  Then the propaganda would say that the devices were small bombs from the US or something.  ;)



Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Elwar on October 09, 2013, 04:44:56 AM
North Korea has been voted the most popular country in the world.

So please tell me, how do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?

Sincerely,
Supreme Leader of Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Kim Jong Un

The leaders of the US have great regard for North Korea as they are trying to emulate your country all the time.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: termhn on October 09, 2013, 06:54:01 AM
If North Korea was smart they would buy as much Bitcoin as possible.  Their currency is not worth much.

Also, they will not be able to counterfeit the new US $100 bills very easily:

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/2013/1008/New-100-bill-why-North-Korea-won-t-be-very-happy-video


I was hoping Kim Jong-Un, as a fan of Rodman (he at least likes some American sports!)  would embrace capitalism and create a more democratic society.  I guess the apple does not fall far from the tree, unfortunately.



Hahaha! Hadn't seen that before. Good read.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: HenryRomp on October 10, 2013, 01:00:20 AM
I was thinking just the other day about how great it would be to do some sort of crowdfunded operation where you make hundreds of thousands of USB keys with Liberte Linux or some similar setup, then covertly distribute them in places like north korea.

They drop Bibles using helium filled ballons.  I am sure that USB keys could be distributed the same way.

The only problem:  Who actually even has computers there??? They would not even know what a USB stick is.  Then the propaganda would say that the devices were small bombs from the US or something.  ;)



That's pretty much the same line of thought I had... Which led me to thinking of smartphones with an internet connection of some sort.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Carlton Banks on October 13, 2013, 01:03:45 AM
Check out the mock North Korean documentary "Propaganda!".

The premise is that Western civilised culture is weird and stifling, creating neurotic and despondent consumers who are blinded to the criminal behaviour of their governments through heavily propagandised newsmedia.

It's weird how our opinion of North Korea is basically the same, except you invert "neurotic and despondent consumers" to "jingoistic and compliant slaveworkers".


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: pedrog on October 13, 2013, 01:25:36 AM
Check out the mock North Korean documentary "Propaganda!".

The premise is that Western civilised culture is weird and stifling, creating neurotic and despondent consumers who are blinded to the criminal behaviour of their governments through heavily propagandised newsmedia.

It's weird how our opinion of North Korea is basically the same, except you invert "neurotic and despondent" to "jingoistic and compliant".

This: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2279306/ ?

I assume it has subs in the korean parts, right?

I've always found North Korea's propaganda fascinating, like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWrG7jzEZio

Now a full documentary!!  :P


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: BitChick on October 13, 2013, 03:44:28 AM
Wow.  I love how on the Youtube clip the background music is "We are the World."  Such happy music as they show America being blown up. 


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: tvbcof on October 13, 2013, 03:49:36 AM
Hi-ya Kim!  The only notable thing I can think of about N. Korea is that there are some really pretty women in your military.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: BitChick on October 13, 2013, 03:58:22 AM
Check out the mock North Korean documentary "Propaganda!".

The premise is that Western civilised culture is weird and stifling, creating neurotic and despondent consumers who are blinded to the criminal behaviour of their governments through heavily propagandised newsmedia.

It's weird how our opinion of North Korea is basically the same, except you invert "neurotic and despondent" to "jingoistic and compliant".

This: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2279306/ ?

I assume it has subs in the korean parts, right?

I've always found North Korea's propaganda fascinating, like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWrG7jzEZio

Now a full documentary!!  :P

We can watch the entire made up documentary here: http://propagandafilm.net/

I am still not sure what to think of the film.  I guess it was not really done in North Korea but by a guy from New Zealand.  Does he really think America is that bad or is it just Satire?  I personally think that the movie distorts reality, just like the North Koreans would, to try to get the point across that our culture is bad.  We have so many freedoms here still compared to some places in the world though.



Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: jambola2 on October 13, 2013, 12:00:34 PM
Stop joking around guys.
North Korea has a huge 1024 IP addresses and probably have many bitcoin users !


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Carlton Banks on October 13, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
It's really interesting what can be done where something you know really well is cast in the most ugly and unflattering light, this Propaganda! film proves it rather concerningly. Of course, it does what it says on the tin, it's a propagandised view. But it's very close to the truth of the prevalent culture and society in the West, the majority of people do fall for all this bs at least at some point of their lives, and some never figure the manipulations out. Still not moving to North Korea any time soon, though.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on October 14, 2013, 04:48:08 AM
Check out the mock North Korean documentary "Propaganda!".

The premise is that Western civilised culture is weird and stifling, creating neurotic and despondent consumers who are blinded to the criminal behaviour of their governments through heavily propagandised newsmedia.

It's weird how our opinion of North Korea is basically the same, except you invert "neurotic and despondent" to "jingoistic and compliant".

This: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2279306/ ?

I assume it has subs in the korean parts, right?

I've always found North Korea's propaganda fascinating, like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWrG7jzEZio

Now a full documentary!!  :P

Wow this is a really good documentary and it touches at all the points where USA is wrong on multiple levels
Vague slogans, media propoganda, new imperalism through globalization
Still watching through but worth recommending
The movie seeks out to do what it says it will do Propoganda and it does it well


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: oakpacific on October 14, 2013, 08:48:24 AM
You can, but you probably wouldn't want to.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: viboracecata on October 14, 2013, 12:21:40 PM
This is an evil country.

No more words needed to describe it.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Carlton Banks on October 14, 2013, 02:13:23 PM
This is an evil country.

No more words needed to describe it.

Just out of interest, how do you know?


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: pedrog on October 14, 2013, 11:33:46 PM
It's really interesting what can be done where something you know really well is cast in the most ugly and unflattering light, this Propaganda! film proves it rather concerningly. Of course, it does what it says on the tin, it's a propagandised view. But it's very close to the truth of the prevalent culture and society in the West, the majority of people do fall for all this bs at least at some point of their lives, and some never figure the manipulations out. Still not moving to North Korea any time soon, though.

Just watched Propaganda!, it is not what I was expecting, I know it's a mock documentary, but I actually agree with a LOT of things in there, a lot!


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Carlton Banks on October 14, 2013, 11:58:19 PM
It's really interesting what can be done where something you know really well is cast in the most ugly and unflattering light, this Propaganda! film proves it rather concerningly. Of course, it does what it says on the tin, it's a propagandised view. But it's very close to the truth of the prevalent culture and society in the West, the majority of people do fall for all this bs at least at some point of their lives, and some never figure the manipulations out. Still not moving to North Korea any time soon, though.

Just watched Propaganda!, it is not what I was expecting, I know it's a mock documentary, but I actually agree with a LOT of things in there, a lot!

And of course, it's a deliberately 100% cynical view of the West, made by a westerner. I saw an interview with the guy who made it, and he started out wondering which country he was going to pretend it was coming from: Cuba, Iran or North Korea. He reasoned that North Korea was best, as no-one can reliably prove what the North Koreans do or don't think about any of this stuff. He mostly guessed about alot of things. The writer said his next project is to try and get into to North Korea, show the film to people and then ask them if it's accurate!


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: pedrog on October 15, 2013, 12:15:56 AM
It's really interesting what can be done where something you know really well is cast in the most ugly and unflattering light, this Propaganda! film proves it rather concerningly. Of course, it does what it says on the tin, it's a propagandised view. But it's very close to the truth of the prevalent culture and society in the West, the majority of people do fall for all this bs at least at some point of their lives, and some never figure the manipulations out. Still not moving to North Korea any time soon, though.

Just watched Propaganda!, it is not what I was expecting, I know it's a mock documentary, but I actually agree with a LOT of things in there, a lot!

And of course, it's a deliberately 100% cynical view of the West, made by a westerner. I saw an interview with the guy who made it, and he started out wondering which country he was going to pretend it was coming from: Cuba, Iran or North Korea. He reasoned that North Korea was best, as no-one can reliably prove what the North Koreans do or don't think about any of this stuff. He mostly guessed about alot of things. The writer said his next project is to try and get into to North Korea, show the film to people and then ask them if it's accurate!

He done a very nice job, I was hoping to give a few laughs but it's not one of those mock documentaries.

Can you point to the interview?

I think people in North Korea don't know about reality shows and western celebrities and much of history, but let's see if the guy gets in there and grabs some testimonies...


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: BitChick on October 15, 2013, 02:55:18 AM
It's really interesting what can be done where something you know really well is cast in the most ugly and unflattering light, this Propaganda! film proves it rather concerningly. Of course, it does what it says on the tin, it's a propagandised view. But it's very close to the truth of the prevalent culture and society in the West, the majority of people do fall for all this bs at least at some point of their lives, and some never figure the manipulations out. Still not moving to North Korea any time soon, though.

Just watched Propaganda!, it is not what I was expecting, I know it's a mock documentary, but I actually agree with a LOT of things in there, a lot!

And of course, it's a deliberately 100% cynical view of the West, made by a westerner. I saw an interview with the guy who made it, and he started out wondering which country he was going to pretend it was coming from: Cuba, Iran or North Korea. He reasoned that North Korea was best, as no-one can reliably prove what the North Koreans do or don't think about any of this stuff. He mostly guessed about alot of things. The writer said his next project is to try and get into to North Korea, show the film to people and then ask them if it's accurate!

He done a very nice job, I was hoping to give a few laughs but it's not one of those mock documentaries.

Can you point to the interview?

I think people in North Korea don't know about reality shows and western celebrities and much of history, but let's see if the guy gets in there and grabs some testimonies...

Is it really a good idea to show the Propaganda move in North Korea?  They already hate us so it would just be adding fuel to fire.  Chances are they would love it and start playing it.  More reasons they want to nuke us?  Ummmm.  Please don't.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: oakpacific on October 15, 2013, 04:32:45 AM
This is an evil country.

No more words needed to describe it.

Just out of interest, how do you know?

If not, why do they forbid basically anyone of their people to leave the country on his own?


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: chmod755 on October 15, 2013, 05:05:19 AM
North Korea has been voted the most popular country in the world.

So please tell me, how do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?

Sincerely,
Supreme Leader of Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Kim Jong Un

It's known as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea or simply Korea - nobody in this country refers to it as 'North Korea'. You're not the real Kim Jong Un.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: pedrog on October 15, 2013, 01:51:01 PM
Is it really a good idea to show the Propaganda move in North Korea?  They already hate us so it would just be adding fuel to fire.  Chances are they would love it and start playing it.  More reasons they want to nuke us?  Ummmm.  Please don't.

Yah, I don't think they hate us, it's a hostage situation there, like any other dictatorship, if they say they like something western they end up in the labor camps.

This is an evil country.

No more words needed to describe it.

Just out of interest, how do you know?

If not, why do they forbid basically anyone of their people to leave the country on his own?

And from speaking with South Koreans or any other tourists...


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Carlton Banks on October 15, 2013, 03:33:10 PM
This is an evil country.

No more words needed to describe it.

Just out of interest, how do you know?

If not, why do they forbid basically anyone of their people to leave the country on his own?

But is it done for no other reason that the leadership are evil? I think not. Clearly they're being very controlling, but what's the reason for that? I suspect that "being evil" isn't even one of the reasons why the leadership have very tight controls in all sorts of areas.

Cite other North Korean government controls.

a) intended to be evil ? If not, what's the real intention?
b) even true at all? How do we know it's true, when the place is so strictly controlled?


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: RoadToHell on October 15, 2013, 07:10:23 PM
This is an evil country.

No more words needed to describe it.

Just out of interest, how do you know?

If not, why do they forbid basically anyone of their people to leave the country on his own?

But is it done for no other reason that the leadership are evil? I think not. Clearly they're being very controlling, but what's the reason for that? I suspect that "being evil" isn't even one of the reasons why the leadership have very tight controls in all sorts of areas.

Cite other North Korean government controls.

a) intended to be evil ? If not, what's the real intention?
b) even true at all? How do we know it's true, when the place is so strictly controlled?
It is the control and other actions that reveal the government as evil.  Intentions don't mean squat.


Title: Re: How do you Bitcoin people like North Korea?
Post by: Carlton Banks on October 15, 2013, 07:29:49 PM
This is an evil country.

No more words needed to describe it.

Just out of interest, how do you know?

If not, why do they forbid basically anyone of their people to leave the country on his own?

But is it done for no other reason that the leadership are evil? I think not. Clearly they're being very controlling, but what's the reason for that? I suspect that "being evil" isn't even one of the reasons why the leadership have very tight controls in all sorts of areas.

Cite other North Korean government controls.

a) intended to be evil ? If not, what's the real intention?
b) even true at all? How do we know it's true, when the place is so strictly controlled?
It is the control and other actions that reveal the government as evil.  Intentions don't mean squat.


Yes they do, particularly if they achieve their aims. I'm not sure that you're imagining the fullest possible range of intentions here. How about: intending to preserve their society by way of aggressively removing any chance of outside influences? That's not control for it's own sake, or for some sadistic satisfaction, it's a very introspective and unambiguous way to keep external influences out. The Japanese did this for many centuries throughout the Middle Ages, until the West "liberated" them.