Title: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: kingsportzrulz on September 26, 2013, 01:01:04 PM It has been interesting and amusing reading of late with all the allegations and ddos attacks occurring at present in relation to bitcoin casinos.
People has been complaining and making allegations against bitcoin casinos for scamming and cheating and being unfair for ages and always get shot down with ‘where’s your proof’, ‘you’re just a sore loser’, ‘it’s gambling, of course you will lose’ etc etc. Now these same casinos are the ones making allegations of unfair and unethical behavior of others. Just because something can be done, doesn’t mean it should be done. Just because a man can rape a woman, doesn’t mean he should. Just because an adult can abuse a child, doesn’t mean they should. Just because you can set up a bitcoin casino, doesn’t mean you should. WHAT THE FCUK guys?? Do you really think you are an ethical, fair, and esteemed person or member of the bitcoin community? Get your head out of the clouds you greedy and evil people. Ask yourself these questions: 1. Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling; 2. Do you plan on paying taxes on your business profits; 3. Have you (or do you plan to) donate any of your business profits to gambling related charities; 4. Do you state anywhere that you do not accept betting from underage players; and 5. If Satoshi were to comment on your business, would it be negative or positive? Has any of the above even ever entered your small brains? Gambling in society is strictly and heavily regulated. It is as such for very specific reasons. If you want to operate in an unregulated environment, accept that you will be shot down at any opportunity that others get. Stop all your whining and crying about it you pathetic scum. All you see is dollar signs. You don’t care one bit about the damage gambling does to people, their families, and society at large. Is making an easy profit the only part you care to take in all of this. You guys are the new wild wild west, dog eat dog. So what the fcuk are you all complaining about? You are running illegal businesses. You are taking advantage of people. You are allowing people to use your service when they shouldn’t. You are just gang leaders, and your ‘investors’ the gang members. You are all too blinded by the perceived easy profit to see the damage you are doing. Too busy running your drugs and protecting your territory to realize that drug running is illegal as well as a target for other drug pushers. And guess what - surprise surprise, when one gang sees easy money being made by another gang, what do you think will happen? How long did you think the ‘party’ would last? You all have targets on your heads. Don’t be so blinded that you can’t see that fact. You think you are anonymous. Well there are other Anonymous people out there that will take you down. In whatever form that will eventually take. Best to take your stolen money and run now. GOOD v evil. YOU evil scum will LOSE. Just my humble thoughts :) Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: Zaih on September 26, 2013, 01:08:00 PM ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: SatoshiDICE_PR on September 26, 2013, 01:29:49 PM Ask yourself these questions: 1. Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling; 2. Do you plan on paying taxes on your business profits; 3. Have you (or do you plan to) donate any of your business profits to gambling related charities; 4. Do you state anywhere that you do not accept betting from underage players; and 5. If Satoshi were to comment on your business, would it be negative or positive? It would have been nice if you asked in a more professional manner, but I'll respond to your questions. 1. No. Should a paint salesman provide instructions on how not to eat paint? 2. Yes 3. Have already donated a considerable amount to both charity and other btc project development, will donate more in the future. 4. Yes 5. I have a feeling Satoshi's opinion is favorable The ability of a person to make a wager on a future event is not unethical. Many find it fun. The stigma attached to gambling is generally related to puritan religious nonsense, which posits that some activities are "vices" and are wrong. If you hold that opinion, don't hang out in the gambling sub-forum. Freedom of choice is a beautiful thing. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: niothor on September 26, 2013, 01:33:10 PM Ask yourself these questions: 1. Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling; 2. Do you plan on paying taxes on your business profits; 3. Have you (or do you plan to) donate any of your business profits to gambling related charities; 4. Do you state anywhere that you do not accept betting from underage players; and 5. If Satoshi were to comment on your business, would it be negative or positive? It would have been nice if you asked in a more professional manner, but I'll respond to your questions. 1. No. Should a paint salesman provide instructions on how not to eat paint? 2. Yes 3. Have already donated a considerable amount to both charity and other btc project development, will donate more in the future. 4. Yes 5. I have a feeling Satoshi's opinion is favorable The ability of a person to make a wager on a future event is not unethical. Many find it fun. The stigma attached to gambling is generally related to puritan religious nonsense, which posits that some activities are "vices" and are wrong. If you hold that opinion, don't hang out in the gambling sub-forum. Freedom of choice is a beautiful thing. Actually , in the EU we have those warnings on toxic products (including paint) , do not eat ,do not spray into the eyes , etc . :D Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: SatoshiDICE_PR on September 26, 2013, 01:51:48 PM Actually , in the EU we have those warnings on toxic products (including paint) , do not eat ,do not spray into the eyes , etc . :D True, okay let me clarify.... it is generally good to warn people of things that may be harmful (especially if it's not obvious). On SD's new site, there will be a warning about responsible gambling. However, I believe there is little virtue in nanny-ism, in assuming that users and customers are all children, and must be coddled and protected from themselves. Most adults are adults, and ought to be treated with respect, professionalism, honesty, and courtesy. Treat people like dependent children, and you'll end up with a bunch of dependent children. The recent complaints against Betcoin are because they are not acting in an honest or professional manner. Instead of running to the government and using coercive force to try to stop them, instead we are voicing our concerns to the community - concerns that are equally valid regardless of the industry. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: b!z on September 26, 2013, 01:57:24 PM There is a section on responsible gambling in the Just-Dice FAQ. I am sure there are other sites which have similar info.
Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 26, 2013, 03:17:44 PM proof me wales will break u >>
planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 99.19 -0.00000556 107030524 planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 97.09 -0.00000556 107030450 planes111 11:14 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 94.66 -0.00000556 107030283 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 63.04 -0.00000111 107030230 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 94.34 -0.00000111 107030175 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 68.34 -0.00000111 107030136 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 80.5 -0.00000111 107030092 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 87.13 -0.00000111 107030052 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 59.1 -0.00000111 107030013 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.98 -0.00000111 107029967 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 85.28 -0.00000111 107029928 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 75.19 -0.00000111 107029885 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.32 -0.00000111 Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: Zaih on September 26, 2013, 03:21:12 PM proof >> planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 99.19 -0.00000556 107030524 planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 97.09 -0.00000556 107030450 planes111 11:14 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 94.66 -0.00000556 107030283 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 63.04 -0.00000111 107030230 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 94.34 -0.00000111 107030175 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 68.34 -0.00000111 107030136 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 80.5 -0.00000111 107030092 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 87.13 -0.00000111 107030052 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 59.1 -0.00000111 107030013 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.98 -0.00000111 107029967 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 85.28 -0.00000111 107029928 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 75.19 -0.00000111 107029885 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.32 -0.00000111 Marry me? Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 26, 2013, 03:22:13 PM proof >> planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 99.19 -0.00000556 107030524 planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 97.09 -0.00000556 107030450 planes111 11:14 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 94.66 -0.00000556 107030283 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 63.04 -0.00000111 107030230 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 94.34 -0.00000111 107030175 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 68.34 -0.00000111 107030136 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 80.5 -0.00000111 107030092 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 87.13 -0.00000111 107030052 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 59.1 -0.00000111 107030013 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.98 -0.00000111 107029967 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 85.28 -0.00000111 107029928 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 75.19 -0.00000111 107029885 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.32 -0.00000111 Marry me? pic? :-* LOL whhhales? Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: dalexc on September 26, 2013, 04:07:08 PM Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman?
Wow. It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior? If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do. Take your bull elsewhere. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 26, 2013, 04:24:10 PM Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman? Wow. It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior? If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do. Take your bull elsewhere. online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo 8) weeeeee Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: marketorder on September 26, 2013, 04:35:27 PM How much did you lose?
It has been interesting and amusing reading of late with all the allegations and ddos attacks occurring at present in relation to bitcoin casinos. People has been complaining and making allegations against bitcoin casinos for scamming and cheating and being unfair for ages and always get shot down with ‘where’s your proof’, ‘you’re just a sore loser’, ‘it’s gambling, of course you will lose’ etc etc. Now these same casinos are the ones making allegations of unfair and unethical behavior of others. Just because something can be done, doesn’t mean it should be done. Just because a man can rape a woman, doesn’t mean he should. Just because an adult can abuse a child, doesn’t mean they should. Just because you can set up a bitcoin casino, doesn’t mean you should. WHAT THE FCUK guys?? Do you really think you are an ethical, fair, and esteemed person or member of the bitcoin community? Get your head out of the clouds you greedy and evil people. Ask yourself these questions: 1. Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling; 2. Do you plan on paying taxes on your business profits; 3. Have you (or do you plan to) donate any of your business profits to gambling related charities; 4. Do you state anywhere that you do not accept betting from underage players; and 5. If Satoshi were to comment on your business, would it be negative or positive? Has any of the above even ever entered your small brains? Gambling in society is strictly and heavily regulated. It is as such for very specific reasons. If you want to operate in an unregulated environment, accept that you will be shot down at any opportunity that others get. Stop all your whining and crying about it you pathetic scum. All you see is dollar signs. You don’t care one bit about the damage gambling does to people, their families, and society at large. Is making an easy profit the only part you care to take in all of this. You guys are the new wild wild west, dog eat dog. So what the fcuk are you all complaining about? You are running illegal businesses. You are taking advantage of people. You are allowing people to use your service when they shouldn’t. You are just gang leaders, and your ‘investors’ the gang members. You are all too blinded by the perceived easy profit to see the damage you are doing. Too busy running your drugs and protecting your territory to realize that drug running is illegal as well as a target for other drug pushers. And guess what - surprise surprise, when one gang sees easy money being made by another gang, what do you think will happen? How long did you think the ‘party’ would last? You all have targets on your heads. Don’t be so blinded that you can’t see that fact. You think you are anonymous. Well there are other Anonymous people out there that will take you down. In whatever form that will eventually take. Best to take your stolen money and run now. GOOD v evil. YOU evil scum will LOSE. Just my humble thoughts :) Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 26, 2013, 04:56:41 PM How much did you lose? It has been interesting and amusing reading of late with all the allegations and ddos attacks occurring at present in relation to bitcoin casinos. People has been complaining and making allegations against bitcoin casinos for scamming and cheating and being unfair for ages and always get shot down with ‘where’s your proof’, ‘you’re just a sore loser’, ‘it’s gambling, of course you will lose’ etc etc. Now these same casinos are the ones making allegations of unfair and unethical behavior of others. Just because something can be done, doesn’t mean it should be done. Just because a man can rape a woman, doesn’t mean he should. Just because an adult can abuse a child, doesn’t mean they should. Just because you can set up a bitcoin casino, doesn’t mean you should. WHAT THE FCUK guys?? Do you really think you are an ethical, fair, and esteemed person or member of the bitcoin community? Get your head out of the clouds you greedy and evil people. Ask yourself these questions: 1. Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling; 2. Do you plan on paying taxes on your business profits; 3. Have you (or do you plan to) donate any of your business profits to gambling related charities; 4. Do you state anywhere that you do not accept betting from underage players; and 5. If Satoshi were to comment on your business, would it be negative or positive? Has any of the above even ever entered your small brains? Gambling in society is strictly and heavily regulated. It is as such for very specific reasons. If you want to operate in an unregulated environment, accept that you will be shot down at any opportunity that others get. Stop all your whining and crying about it you pathetic scum. All you see is dollar signs. You don’t care one bit about the damage gambling does to people, their families, and society at large. Is making an easy profit the only part you care to take in all of this. You guys are the new wild wild west, dog eat dog. So what the fcuk are you all complaining about? You are running illegal businesses. You are taking advantage of people. You are allowing people to use your service when they shouldn’t. You are just gang leaders, and your ‘investors’ the gang members. You are all too blinded by the perceived easy profit to see the damage you are doing. Too busy running your drugs and protecting your territory to realize that drug running is illegal as well as a target for other drug pushers. And guess what - surprise surprise, when one gang sees easy money being made by another gang, what do you think will happen? How long did you think the ‘party’ would last? You all have targets on your heads. Don’t be so blinded that you can’t see that fact. You think you are anonymous. Well there are other Anonymous people out there that will take you down. In whatever form that will eventually take. Best to take your stolen money and run now. GOOD v evil. YOU evil scum will LOSE. Just my humble thoughts :) we need more whales over here >> planes111 12:54 0.00001000 2.00000 <49.50 90.24 -0.00001000 107184243 planes111 12:54 0.00001000 2.00000 <49.50 90.24 -0.00001000 107184072 planes111 12:54 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 60.01 -0.00000556 107184006 planes111 12:54 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 90.93 -0.00000556 107183854 planes111 12:54 0.00000222 2.00000 <49.50 87.96 -0.00000222 107183634 planes111 12:54 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 94.22 -0.00000111 107183573 planes111 12:54 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 89.8 -0.0000 Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: SatoshiDICE_PR on September 26, 2013, 04:58:24 PM Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman? Wow. It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior? If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do. Take your bull elsewhere. online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo 8) weeeeee In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 26, 2013, 05:03:20 PM Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman? Wow. It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior? If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do. Take your bull elsewhere. online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo 8) weeeeee In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it. do you rely want me to repost cite laws?lmao ~ bitcoin itself is under the microscope in The States because of illegal gambling, bad drugs and other even more evil things!!! 8) Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: dalexc on September 26, 2013, 05:42:45 PM Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman? Wow. It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior? If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do. Take your bull elsewhere. online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo 8) weeeeee In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it. do you rely want me to repost cite laws?lmao ~ bitcoin itself is under the microscope in The States because of illegal gambling, bad drugs and other even more evil things!!! 8) Online gambling is legal. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: elbill on September 26, 2013, 07:28:41 PM Ask yourself these questions: 1. Is there any mention anywhere on your sites about responsible gambling; It would have been nice if you asked in a more professional manner, but I'll respond to your questions. 1. No. Should a paint salesman provide instructions on how not to eat paint? The ability of a person to make a wager on a future event is not unethical. Many find it fun. The stigma attached to gambling is generally related to puritan religious nonsense, which posits that some activities are "vices" and are wrong. If you hold that opinion, don't hang out in the gambling sub-forum. Freedom of choice is a beautiful thing. This is really unethical, the compulsive gambling is a problem for many people and should be ways to autoban of a site, is the first rule to follow when you have a gambling license. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 26, 2013, 10:15:54 PM Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman? Wow. It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior? If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do. Take your bull elsewhere. online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo 8) weeeeee In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it. do you rely want me to repost cite laws?lmao ~ bitcoin itself is under the microscope in The States because of illegal gambling, bad drugs and other even more evil things!!! 8) Online gambling is legal. Link? or in your opinion Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: aksplace on September 26, 2013, 11:48:05 PM SatoshiDice is owned and managed by top notch people.
Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: Hfleer on September 26, 2013, 11:59:58 PM proof >> planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 99.19 -0.00000556 107030524 planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 97.09 -0.00000556 107030450 planes111 11:14 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 94.66 -0.00000556 107030283 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 63.04 -0.00000111 107030230 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 94.34 -0.00000111 107030175 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 68.34 -0.00000111 107030136 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 80.5 -0.00000111 107030092 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 87.13 -0.00000111 107030052 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 59.1 -0.00000111 107030013 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.98 -0.00000111 107029967 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 85.28 -0.00000111 107029928 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 75.19 -0.00000111 107029885 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.32 -0.00000111 Marry me? Not sure it proves anything, but Zaih seems to like it. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 27, 2013, 12:43:35 AM proof >> planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 99.19 -0.00000556 107030524 planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 97.09 -0.00000556 107030450 planes111 11:14 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 94.66 -0.00000556 107030283 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 63.04 -0.00000111 107030230 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 94.34 -0.00000111 107030175 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 68.34 -0.00000111 107030136 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 80.5 -0.00000111 107030092 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 87.13 -0.00000111 107030052 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 59.1 -0.00000111 107030013 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.98 -0.00000111 107029967 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 85.28 -0.00000111 107029928 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 75.19 -0.00000111 107029885 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.32 -0.00000111 Marry me? Not sure it proves anything, but Zaih seems to like it. nigle please! >> planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 89.39 -0.00000111 107928172 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 87.63 -0.00000111 107928141 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 52.67 -0.00000111 107928098 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 69.71 -0.00000111 107928064 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 60.73 -0.00000111 107928029 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 57.07 -0.00000111 107927993 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 66.17 -0.00000111 107927963 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 62.93 -0.00000111 107927918 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 51.11 -0.00000111 107927774 planes111 20:36 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 88.3 -0.00000033 107927740 planes111 20:36 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 53.31 -0.00000033 107927702 planes111 20:35 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 77.51 -0.00000033 107927618 planes111 20:35 0.00000001 2.00000 <49.50 92.17 -0.00000001 Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: monbux on September 27, 2013, 12:56:53 AM proof >> planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 99.19 -0.00000556 107030524 planes111 11:15 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 97.09 -0.00000556 107030450 planes111 11:14 0.00000556 2.00000 <49.50 94.66 -0.00000556 107030283 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 63.04 -0.00000111 107030230 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 94.34 -0.00000111 107030175 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 68.34 -0.00000111 107030136 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 80.5 -0.00000111 107030092 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 87.13 -0.00000111 107030052 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 59.1 -0.00000111 107030013 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.98 -0.00000111 107029967 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 85.28 -0.00000111 107029928 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 75.19 -0.00000111 107029885 planes111 11:14 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 86.32 -0.00000111 Marry me? Not sure it proves anything, but Zaih seems to like it. nigle please! >> planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 89.39 -0.00000111 107928172 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 87.63 -0.00000111 107928141 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 52.67 -0.00000111 107928098 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 69.71 -0.00000111 107928064 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 60.73 -0.00000111 107928029 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 57.07 -0.00000111 107927993 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 66.17 -0.00000111 107927963 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 62.93 -0.00000111 107927918 planes111 20:36 0.00000111 2.00000 <49.50 51.11 -0.00000111 107927774 planes111 20:36 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 88.3 -0.00000033 107927740 planes111 20:36 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 53.31 -0.00000033 107927702 planes111 20:35 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 77.51 -0.00000033 107927618 planes111 20:35 0.00000001 2.00000 <49.50 92.17 -0.00000001 I must be a complete newbie, because I have no idea dafuq we are all talking about here. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: dalexc on September 27, 2013, 01:12:49 AM Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman? Wow. It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior? If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do. Take your bull elsewhere. online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo 8) weeeeee In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it. do you rely want me to repost cite laws?lmao ~ bitcoin itself is under the microscope in The States because of illegal gambling, bad drugs and other even more evil things!!! 8) Online gambling is legal. Link? or in your opinion To be fair, it's ambiguous in its current state. There are no federal laws directly against online gambling. States have worked to make it legal and some have passed laws allowing people to gamble online like New Jersey. Other states like New York are currently looking to make online gambling legal. While other states allow some forms of online gambling like horse racing and lottery, they either fully reject or have nothing concrete for slots, blackjack and sports gambling. I'm sure if you asked a government official if online gambling was legal in their state they probably couldn't give you a straight answer. It's a classic gray area, but our government is notorious for that. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 27, 2013, 02:52:03 AM Did you seriously compare the ethically operations of a bitcoin online gambling site to that of a man raping a woman? Wow. It's tough to a cringe worthy comment like that seriously, I will say this: These operations are no illegal under any state or federal law. The people that gamble are willing participants and are well aware of the risk and opportunity they are taking. Who or what has given the moral authority to you and what right do you have to pass judgment on other's behavior? If you don't like the concept of gambling, I respect that. However, you have no right to belittle others that do. Take your bull elsewhere. online gambling is illegal last time i check it kind of adds to the novelty of these sites imo 8) weeeeee In most of the world online gambling is fully legal. In the US, there is no federal law banning online gambling (though there are laws banning the "funding of illegal gambling sites," which is a different legal argument) There are also a handful of US states that do have laws against it. do you rely want me to repost cite laws?lmao ~ bitcoin itself is under the microscope in The States because of illegal gambling, bad drugs and other even more evil things!!! 8) Online gambling is legal. Link? or in your opinion To be fair, it's ambiguous in its current state. There are no federal laws directly against online gambling. States have worked to make it legal and some have passed laws allowing people to gamble online like New Jersey. Other states like New York are currently looking to make online gambling legal. While other states allow some forms of online gambling like horse racing and lottery, they either fully reject or have nothing concrete for slots, blackjack and sports gambling. I'm sure if you asked a government official if online gambling was legal in their state they probably couldn't give you a straight answer. It's a classic gray area, but our government is notorious for that. regardless the reason is fraud ~ these bitcoin "dice" games are scams imho! Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: steveds on September 27, 2013, 06:33:07 AM if bitcoins is not offically recogonized as a currency no taxes is needed :P
Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 27, 2013, 06:45:57 AM if bitcoins is not offically recogonized as a currency no taxes is needed :P i recognise them as money, Winklevoss twins etc~you can buy shit with them! more fraud >> 108415108 planes111 02:43 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 73.75 -0.00000033 108415067 planes111 02:43 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 59.78 -0.00000033 108415035 planes111 02:43 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 65.87 -0.00000033 108415001 planes111 02:43 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 99.06 -0.00000033 108414960 planes111 02:43 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 96.8 -0.00000033 108414912 planes111 02:43 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 91.06 -0.00000033 108414862 planes111 02:43 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 80.01 -0.00000033 108414801 planes111 02:43 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 78.39 -0.00000033 108414762 planes111 02:43 0.00000033 2.00000 <49.50 57.83 -0.00000033 Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: steveds on September 27, 2013, 07:00:03 AM does governments?.... No therefore no taxes or regulations can be placed
Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 27, 2013, 07:44:14 AM does governments?.... No therefore no taxes or regulations can be placed my team do! ;) we band together will tax all dice games with simple math LOL Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: Dabs on September 27, 2013, 08:56:54 AM I'm going to start offering bitcoin gaming licenses. These will be GPG signed, as well as printed so you can post it in your office, as well as graphically signed so you can post a picture on your website.
Anyone who has a bitcoin gaming license from me will fall under by jurisdiction and authority. Now, I'm still thinking what the fees will be, but all who apply before 31 Dec 2013 will get their licenses for free, will be considered charter members of Dabs Bitcoin Gaming Commission, and will retain their free license for a period of 10 years. All members who apply from 01 Jan 2014 onwards will have to pay a non-refundable application and processing fee of 1 BTC per annum, renewable every year. First time applicants are not automatically accepted. Certain rules and regulations will apply that all members must adhere to, but common sense will prevail, and will be similar to other internationally issued gaming licenses. Ok, I'm going to think of more things later on, but that's it for now. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 27, 2013, 09:24:33 AM I'm going to start offering bitcoin gaming licenses. These will be GPG signed, as well as printed so you can post it in your office, as well as graphically signed so you can post a picture on your website. Anyone who has a bitcoin gaming license from me will fall under by jurisdiction and authority. Now, I'm still thinking what the fees will be, but all who apply before 31 Dec 2013 will get their licenses for free, will be considered charter members of Dabs Bitcoin Gaming Commission, and will retain their free license for a period of 10 years. All members who apply from 01 Jan 2014 onwards will have to pay a non-refundable application and processing fee of 1 BTC per annum, renewable every year. First time applicants are not automatically accepted. Certain rules and regulations will apply that all members must adhere to, but common sense will prevail, and will be similar to other internationally issued gaming licenses. Ok, I'm going to think of more things later on, but that's it for now. what authority do you have? LOL Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: Dabs on September 27, 2013, 09:27:50 AM My own. What else do I need? I am decentralized.
Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on September 27, 2013, 08:06:06 PM My own. What else do I need? I am decentralized. why i'm "the man" because i say so! ;D LOL = buy my chit...<^@u@^>... Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: BobMarley on September 28, 2013, 03:33:39 PM all the major sites are provably fair using the blockchain.
and as others have mentioned its legal in most countries Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on October 20, 2013, 02:12:21 PM all the major sites are provably fair using the blockchain. and as others have mentioned its legal in most countries finally read the OP in its entirety, i'm amazed why there are so many "yes men" when it comes to these fraudulent online gambling sites. I find it shocking they log ip addresses to track users and use this info to taylor the odds! ::) Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: Dabs on October 22, 2013, 02:22:20 AM The top dice sites, particularly the 3 mentioned in the title, do not log ip addresses to "taylor" the odds. Except for SatoshiDice, the other two already have you make an account, so they don't need your ip address since you are logged in as one account already.
And you're advertising one of them in your signature. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on October 22, 2013, 01:03:58 PM THIS IS P|2OOF OF EXACTLY WHAT I'M RANTING ABOUT!!!! WTF!!! :-\ :-\====> 170814749 7eleven 08:56 0.00097544 1.50000 <66.00 66.15 -0.00097544 170814688 7eleven 08:56 0.00007777 1.50000 <66.00 35.51 +0.00003889 170814672 7eleven 08:56 0.00007777 1.50000 <66.00 96.64 -0.00007777 170814653 7eleven 08:56 0.00007777 1.50000 <66.00 93.25 -0.00007777 170814622 7eleven 08:56 0.00007777 1.50000 <66.00 80.23 -0.00007777 170814588 7eleven 08:56 0.00007777 1.50000 <66.00 79.37 -0.00007777 170814467 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 69.61 -0.00000011 170814441 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 76.13 -0.00000011 170814420 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 67.97 -0.00000011 170814387 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 92.09 -0.00000011 170814361 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 98.88 -0.00000011 170814234 7eleven 08:56 0.00007777 1.50000 <66.00 37.66 +0.00003889 170814116 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 25.63 +0.00000006 170814068 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 93.71 -0.00000011 170814045 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 66.3 -0.00000011 170814025 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 93.85 -0.00000011 170814005 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 54.77 +0.00000006 170813981 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 74.24 -0.00000011 170813957 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 72.32 -0.00000011 170813801 7eleven 08:56 0.00007777 1.50000 <66.00 37.48 +0.00003889 170813787 7eleven 08:56 0.00007777 1.50000 <66.00 57.23 +0.00003889 170813743 7eleven 08:56 0.00007777 1.50000 <66.00 95.03 -0.00007777 170813623 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 68.13 -0.00000011 170813602 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 88.74 -0.00000011 170813583 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 95.53 -0.00000011 170813563 7eleven 08:56 0.00000011 1.50000 <66.00 85.49 -0.00000011 Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on October 22, 2013, 01:06:20 PM The top dice sites, particularly the 3 mentioned in the title, do not log ip addresses to "taylor" the odds. Except for SatoshiDice, the other two already have you make an account, so they don't need your ip address since you are logged in as one account already. And you're advertising one of them in your signature. bullshit! my guess is they are working with the authorities to target laundrymats!!! 8) Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: Dabs on October 24, 2013, 04:21:57 AM bullshit! my guess is they are working with the authorities to target laundrymats!!! 8) Your guess is as good as mine. Your proof however, is not proof. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on October 24, 2013, 12:12:27 PM bullshit! my guess is they are working with the authorities to target laundrymats!!! 8) Your guess is as good as mine. Your proof however, is not proof. i'm convinced these trap game sites are on the take, I'd expect more community spirit out of you guys, i'm an idealist! ::) Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: Dabs on October 25, 2013, 08:25:28 AM i'm convinced these trap game sites are on the take, I'd expect more community spirit out of you guys, i'm an idealist! ::) What convinces you? Because, I'm also an idealist and I'm all with the community and then some. But I also need to see verifiable proof, otherwise it's just all anecdotal or hearsay.IANAL, but it's just not right to condemn an innocent man to death for a crime he did not commit. What if we're wrong? Proof is needed. That's the whole point of being provably fair. These dice games are fair to players at least. Only investors could potentially have problems. The little article by some dude about injecting html or java partials just doesn't make sense even to me, although I'm usually a fail at understanding probabilities and math. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: ASICSRUS on October 25, 2013, 01:55:26 PM i'm convinced these trap game sites are on the take, I'd expect more community spirit out of you guys, i'm an idealist! ::) What convinces you? Because, I'm also an idealist and I'm all with the community and then some. But I also need to see verifiable proof, otherwise it's just all anecdotal or hearsay.IANAL, but it's just not right to condemn an innocent man to death for a crime he did not commit. What if we're wrong? Proof is needed. That's the whole point of being provably fair. These dice games are fair to players at least. Only investors could potentially have problems. The little article by some dude about injecting html or java partials just doesn't make sense even to me, although I'm usually a fail at understanding probabilities and math. have you heard about ELRA ? 8) hmmmm,,, Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: haightst on October 29, 2013, 11:41:54 PM The top dice sites, particularly the 3 mentioned in the title, do not log ip addresses to "taylor" the odds. Except for SatoshiDice, the other two already have you make an account, so they don't need your ip address since you are logged in as one account already. And you're advertising one of them in your signature. per: http://just-dice.com/ Your IP address has been blocked for an hour. Sorry for the inconvenience. hmmmmm!! yes they do ::) Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: jmumich on November 02, 2013, 06:31:47 PM The top dice sites, particularly the 3 mentioned in the title, do not log ip addresses to "taylor" the odds. Except for SatoshiDice, the other two already have you make an account, so they don't need your ip address since you are logged in as one account already. And you're advertising one of them in your signature. per: http://just-dice.com/ Your IP address has been blocked for an hour. Sorry for the inconvenience. hmmmmm!! yes they do ::) I don't know for certain, but that message probably came from an outside company used to defend against DDOS attacks. In other words, that message came before you were redirected to the dice game's website. Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: haightst on November 03, 2013, 04:04:12 AM The top dice sites, particularly the 3 mentioned in the title, do not log ip addresses to "taylor" the odds. Except for SatoshiDice, the other two already have you make an account, so they don't need your ip address since you are logged in as one account already. And you're advertising one of them in your signature. per: http://just-dice.com/ Your IP address has been blocked for an hour. Sorry for the inconvenience. hmmmmm!! yes they do ::) I don't know for certain, but that message probably came from an outside company used to defend against DDOS attacks. In other words, that message came before you were redirected to the dice game's website. no it was Deb! ;D Title: Re: PrimeDice, Just-Dice, SatoshiDice and Co - ALL unethical and BAD for Bitcoin Post by: haightst on November 03, 2013, 02:40:28 PM Just don't use the sites if you don't like them. ::) no I'm cracking all these scam sites ~ who is with me? 8) check this out stunna showed us this last night! ====> http://www.captchabrotherhood.com/ |