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After reading the topic of innovation in the face of the merit, I decided to ask a question and, most importantly, to find out
your thoughts on this matter.
 
Why did they actually introduce measures and what are its main functions?

For example, at the moment both in English and Russian topics all vied
with the quality of posts and the improvement of the community as a whole, but personally at the moment I see only the opposite side - the
emergence of a black market for the sale of Merit. As they say, the price for 1 merit is already from 8 to 40 !!! green.
And a very strong increase in the prices of accounts.

There are also a lot of questions from the point of view of logic.
For example, as a beginner or junior, presumably just beginning his journey in the world of crypts and blockade technology
can give out something really catchy, interesting and new for the permanent watchdog forum?

Or maybe all this is the beginning of the subsequent rise in prices for signatures (signatures) - the company?
Or a reduction in competition?
Or - all this is the beginning of something much more  Huh

How do you think?

I don't understand everything you're trying to say (and I also don't understand why you started another thread about the merit system when there are already probably hundreds already in existence). But you can read about the merit system and its justification here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.

I think it is sad that you mentioned Russia in association with the banned selling of merit points. Putin is trying to elevate Russia to a place as a respectable country in world affairs, and his healthy farming initiative is to be applauded. Russia has had a bad reputtion for scamming and other unsavoury practices in the past, and I suspect that many honest Russians are trying to shake this off. Is the Russian board any worse than any of the other local boards?

Damn, I'm rich now.

There is always someone trying to trick the system. It doesn't matter if it's the merit system, the account selling, even the bank system, the voting system, every single system in the world. You can find black markers everywhere for almost everything that has some value for someone.
There is no miraculous solution that is working 100% all the time.
There should be some control here in a way because the forum tuned into a dumping place full of nonsense only for account farming.
So freezing the shitposters to Jr. members is one good solution to the huge spam generated every day. If you have some soft of common sense and acceptable English level you should be making your way to the higher ranks without any problem. It takes time but you learn a lot on the way, so you actually can back up your rank with your knowledge, and short review of your previous posts can prove that you are not traded account.
Well there is still a chance to be an alt but ... as I said/wrote earlier there is no 100% solution to this.


I read somewhere that soon is coming a Telegram token and that Theymos whats to have a huge part of the distribution of the tokens that's why he introduced the merit system now, so he and his alts to be able to participate in all the bounties and all the poor peasants will be left aside.

Merit is introduced simply because this forum is getting really crowded especially by noobs that have heard that they can actually get rich here. Leding to spamming for the increase in rank, to be able to enter campaigns and unfortanetly, rules is not enough to ensure quality but they seem to get credits without any effort.

Though it can't eliminate bad ones, it freezes adding more of it.
The system will test which can actually survive by doing quality.
Don't worry about the black market. Selling accounts will end because in order to have new accounts to sell, they need to do contribution and maybe they will end up hesitating. So accounts will be limited time to time. Having a higher rank accounts such as member already needs hard work.

Why use 10 words when you can use 50... is this the nullius effect?

Don't you mean why use 10 threads when you can use 50.

I'm not saying that applies to Nullius btw.

The number of threads is a different issue. The fact that the 3rd world posters have now swallowed a thesaurus is a different problem.

I think you are frustrated. Take a chill pill  ;D


I always have respect Russia for their bravery and courage. We are living in USA dominated planet so when they say something that is correct. They have the mainstream media. And we all know how mainstream media manipulates us. Good people and bad people exists everywhere.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/100b8cd7d98694bcb221180a969ae213/tenor.gif?itemid=8471142

PS: I'm no Russian  :D


- You are kidding! right?
I hope it's not correct or we all are basically bunches of puppets.  :'(  
We are fighting for decentralisation (  ??? ) here. COME ON!!!

Merit system need just more time and some improvements. I'm pretty sure the administrators are keeping close eyes on the data and statistics


- Quality, constructive post  ;)

a lot of spam was going on and a lot of guys was trying to get controll on bitcoin talk a lot of bots and multiple accounts so they add it to get what you deserve but as i see its not working as they are exchanging merit

No worries, you can spot the lingo used by these people from shithole countries. Make Bitcointalk Great Again!

You mean an altcoin distributed based on the amount of merit you received in this forum? What you are saying isn't really making sense.

Also, do you really think theymos has time to participate in minimum-wage paying bounties with one account, let alone his "Alts"?

His bitcoin adress, 1NXYoJ5xU91Jp83XfVMHwwTUyZFK64BoAD has received over 4 million. I doubt it would be worth his time to go around and do twitter bounties.

The Admins want to lessen the spamming here in the forum and they want users to contribute here through posting medium to high quality posts. That's it.  ;) ;)

Some times a system does not work as intended. Time will tell if it's successful or not. For now maybe we should give the merit system some time.

tha'ts what they are thinking, Give us eye cancer as we have to read a 500 word essay. make us bleed from the eyes using words from the thesaurus.. and guess what - its still not constructive, its actually probably worse than the previous shitposting

No, let me explain, this is so ridiculous accusation, I'm faaar from considering such bullshit as a real deal because it has no sense to me. I just wrote what I have read somewhere about the merit system. But this is how the spamming crowd is trying to explain the system, by accusing theymos and sh!t like this.
The new system ruined a lot of people's "business" so everyone of these clowns are crawling their way up on the ranking system by black-marketing the sMerits. I have already reported two such cases, hope I can catch more of those folks :)


I hope you are kidding, you can't really believe that it can happen, right?

This might not have eliminated the spam completely but has reduced it for sure. Only the admin might be aware of the recent number of registrations happening per day but it really does not make sense to create multiple accounts. You can level up 1-2 accounts to member level by cheating the system but this is not possible for members with 10 or more accounts. Also, most of the members who tried giving merit points to alt accounts got recognized anyway . 

there is not a single system out there that is perfect, and the merit system is not going to stop poeple from finding a twist in things to get profit from it, anyone who is abusing the system like selling merits won't get away with it, they will eventually get caught and when they do they will be punished, and i belive that mods have already been able to track down a couple of merit trading circles where a bunch of people trade merits on shit posts.

I think the admin has left certain loopholes so as easily recognize the spammers. For instance, allowing the option to send 50 merits points for a single post does not make any sense. There is a possibility that he might have did it on purpose so that he can catch the members who abuse this. To make this system more effective, we need changes being done from time to time. For instance, there can be limitations on members who have spent more than 10 merits points on average per post.

Yeah OK, but think about it this way. The merit is traceable, also many people are monitoring such a big rewards. It's better to catch them here while trying to cheat, instead of hunting them on other websites and chatrooms. Its gonna be more difficult that way. Its the same with the acc selling. You can do it here too, but if they catch you, you are busted with red trust.

Why would you go after merit in the first place? Only to rank up for to either scam people, participate in campaigns or farm accounts.

If you are here only to dig deep into the bitcoin/blockchain field you won't bother with all the merit hype now. Those people getting merit anyway even in they are not trying.

So keep it as simple as it is now, it's working good and it needs time.

This maybe why Theymos disabled this feature (show stat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1292549;sa=statPanel)) on the forum several weeks ago. Maybe due to burden from abundant newcomers and spammers, in particular.

This is only right with real spammers, who are actually lack of skills, knowledge, experience in the forum. They actually are not able to write even only one high-quality thread. However, I wonder alt accounts of skilled members, who are capable of manage simultaneously many alt accounts, and write good posts for each account to rank up. But, as you said, it requires a lot of time, so merit system will reduce the endemic from spammers and account-farmers.