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Title: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2011, 11:15:34 PM
I was wrong. I nearly acted against Reddit's property rights. I acted irrationally.

On a final note:

I apologize. Again, I was terribly wrong in considering this. It's disrespectful to those who contribute to the r/Bitcoin sub-reddit and leaves a bad mark on the Bitcoin community. I have nothing but remorse for this incident. I don't expect forgiveness but I wish to make it clear that I do not condone these previous actions of mine. I will not disrespect the Bitcoin community again.

I have acted accordingly and resigned. Theymos now has jurisdiction over the Reddit.

Godspeed.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: bitplane on July 19, 2011, 11:23:24 PM
Property rights? You acted against the spirit of the website, the reason why it exists, against the interests of everyone who was subscribed and only in the interest of your own greedy, self-serving, corrupt and morally bankrupt ass.

In short, f*ck you. I that hope you're never given a position of power anywhere ever again


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Maged on July 19, 2011, 11:25:56 PM
I acted irrationally.
*sigh* Typical Atlas...

Story of your life.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2011, 11:26:22 PM
Property rights? You acted against the spirit of the website, the reason why it exists, against the interests of everyone who was subscribed and only in the interest of your own greedy, self-serving, corrupt and morally bankrupt ass.

In short, f*ck you. I that hope you're never given a position of power anywhere ever again
I believe if somebody invested in a significant amount in the subreddit, they would care for their investment. Obviously it could go into the hands of somebody that wishes to turn it into a giant advertisement which is why I wouldn't of sold it in the end.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 19, 2011, 11:29:53 PM
I acted irrationally.
*sigh* Typical Atlas...

Story of your life.

I'm pretty sure we were all irrational at 17. That said, irrational moves come with consequences and that's always a good lesson.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Maged on July 19, 2011, 11:32:19 PM
I acted irrationally.
*sigh* Typical Atlas...

Story of your life.

I'm pretty sure we were all irrational at 17. That said, irrational moves come with consequences and that's always a good lesson.
Agreed. I'm glad that Atlas is recognizing that he's acting irrationally, as that's the first step to fixing the problem.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
Theymos has jurisdiction over the sub-reddit now. When he becomes aware, I am sure he will handle the place nicely through proper delegation or otherwise.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: JeffK on July 20, 2011, 12:12:40 AM
It would be pretty cool if one day you actually learn from your mistakes, instead of always convincing yourself you are right and continuing to make similar ones each time someone calls you out.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2011, 04:13:42 AM
It would be pretty cool if one day you actually learn from your mistakes, instead of always convincing yourself you are right and continuing to make similar ones each time someone calls you out.
I have never justified my wrong-doings.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: BitterTea on July 20, 2011, 04:14:56 PM
Just want to say that I don't think what you tried to do was morally wrong. Perhaps the way you went about it was not the most honest, but it seems to me that you homesteaded r/Bitcoin and therefore should be able to do with it as you wish (within the reddit terms of use, of course).


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Tawsix on July 20, 2011, 05:59:59 PM
What the hell is Reddit?

Holy shit that made me laugh!

To a few choice people (YOU KNOW WHO U R): stop flaming Atlas, he's owning up to what he sees as his mistake.  No reason to be a complete dickwad to him, you're just making yourselves look like assholes.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: bitclown on July 20, 2011, 06:12:08 PM
Have fun with the donations (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1KSDXrsgiQ5mdd7Cg9MMQRnzNgiFm4BiAf), Atlas!


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: AtlasONo on July 20, 2011, 06:41:28 PM
What are you doing with the bitcoin donations you took from a few reddit users?


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: joulesbeef on July 21, 2011, 01:44:16 AM
takes a man to own up and apologize, though i didnt see too much wrong with you selling you moderators position. if you sold it to a shill someone would just make a different subreddit.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Raoul Duke on July 21, 2011, 01:54:50 AM
Well Atlas, where i come from people sell facebook fan pages and alikes like hot cakes and i don't see anything wrong with that.
People must be rewarded, if not for more, at least for the time dedicated to it.
I guess some people prefer those guys who try to trademark Bitcoin, never contributing a single bit to it ;)

To all the nay sayers: The man worked for it. Must he starve, instead of trying to capitalize on his time?
Or must he mug an old lady?  ::)


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Bitcoin_Silver_Supply on July 21, 2011, 02:39:24 AM
To all the nay sayers: The man worked for it. Must he starve, instead of trying to capitalize on his time?
Or must he mug an old lady?  ::)

The argument has been that this was a broad community effort that Atlas has personally tried to cash in on. If that is the case, yes, he should starve over exploiting the goodwill of others. However, it seems he knew it was wrong and did the right thing in the end.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: LightRider on July 21, 2011, 06:30:00 AM
Well Atlas, where i come from people sell facebook fan pages and alikes like hot cakes and i don't see anything wrong with that.
People must be rewarded, if not for more, at least for the time dedicated to it.
I guess some people prefer those guys who try to trademark Bitcoin, never contributing a single bit to it ;)

To all the nay sayers: The man worked for it. Must he starve, instead of trying to capitalize on his time?
Or must he mug an old lady?  ::)

Mugging and starving are the choices presented in a monetary system.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: BitterTea on July 21, 2011, 12:31:31 PM
Well Atlas, where i come from people sell facebook fan pages and alikes like hot cakes and i don't see anything wrong with that.
People must be rewarded, if not for more, at least for the time dedicated to it.
I guess some people prefer those guys who try to trademark Bitcoin, never contributing a single bit to it ;)

To all the nay sayers: The man worked for it. Must he starve, instead of trying to capitalize on his time?
Or must he mug an old lady?  ::)

Mugging and starving are the choices presented in a monetary system.

Prove it.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: woo on July 21, 2011, 02:32:53 PM
Well Atlas, where i come from people sell facebook fan pages and alikes like hot cakes and i don't see anything wrong with that.
People must be rewarded, if not for more, at least for the time dedicated to it.
I guess some people prefer those guys who try to trademark Bitcoin, never contributing a single bit to it ;)
I agree with making money off facebook fan pages - there are lots of crud that admin's need to delete, moderate and etc.
Reddit is different though. Users submit their own content. Users vote and weed through submissions. Users make and vote for witty comments.
Subreddit mods usually just weed through the spam filter and implement changes in css - not a difficult task, especially for a small subreddit.

It's called the reddit community for a reason.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: bitplane on July 21, 2011, 10:48:49 PM
i didnt see too much wrong with you selling you moderators position. if you sold it to a shill someone would just make a different subreddit.
Anyone who would pay money to be a moderator of a community based on trust and responsibility is not someone who should ever be a moderator.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: TYDIRocks on July 21, 2011, 11:14:33 PM
takes a man to own up and apologize, though i didnt see too much wrong with you selling you moderators position. if you sold it to a shill someone would just make a different subreddit.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-12-09-blagojevich-arrest_N.htm

I suppose this was ok too? :P


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: SgtSpike on July 21, 2011, 11:18:20 PM
Well Atlas, where i come from people sell facebook fan pages and alikes like hot cakes and i don't see anything wrong with that.
People must be rewarded, if not for more, at least for the time dedicated to it.
I guess some people prefer those guys who try to trademark Bitcoin, never contributing a single bit to it ;)

To all the nay sayers: The man worked for it. Must he starve, instead of trying to capitalize on his time?
Or must he mug an old lady?  ::)

Mugging and starving are the choices presented in a monetary system.
...or you could work for a living, like most normal people.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: joulesbeef on July 21, 2011, 11:46:05 PM
you equating this with selling of a senate seat?

LOL damn man. Sorry if I dont see "moderator" as that big of a deal.

99.9999% of their job is leaving the subreddit alone.

the other .0001% is deleting spam and crap that shouldnt be there.


I guess I can see why some of yall are annoyed, I just dont see much of a big deal.

And I'm about as ideologically opposite to atlas as you can get.(just saying I'm not defending him due to his politics).

Personally I Think it is kinda shitty for some people to not recognize a real apology. He quit his job as moderator. It's not like he had to. We couldnt force him out. WE could have made a different subreddit but it sure didnt look like were about to.

I dont think he did anything wrong and I respect his apology. as for blagojevich he denied wrong doing to the end.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2011, 04:32:10 AM


99.9999% of their job is leaving the subreddit alone.


I was great at the job if thats the case.  :D


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: LightRider on July 22, 2011, 05:23:28 PM
Well Atlas, where i come from people sell facebook fan pages and alikes like hot cakes and i don't see anything wrong with that.
People must be rewarded, if not for more, at least for the time dedicated to it.
I guess some people prefer those guys who try to trademark Bitcoin, never contributing a single bit to it ;)

To all the nay sayers: The man worked for it. Must he starve, instead of trying to capitalize on his time?
Or must he mug an old lady?  ::)

Mugging and starving are the choices presented in a monetary system.

Prove it.
Well Atlas, where i come from people sell facebook fan pages and alikes like hot cakes and i don't see anything wrong with that.
People must be rewarded, if not for more, at least for the time dedicated to it.
I guess some people prefer those guys who try to trademark Bitcoin, never contributing a single bit to it ;)

To all the nay sayers: The man worked for it. Must he starve, instead of trying to capitalize on his time?
Or must he mug an old lady?  ::)

Mugging and starving are the choices presented in a monetary system.
...or you could work for a living, like most normal people.

More information here (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=5373.0).


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: BitterTea on July 22, 2011, 06:56:38 PM
More information here (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=5373.0).

Ok, so you can't provide any support for this statement?

Mugging and starving are the choices presented in a monetary system.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: Dobrodav on July 22, 2011, 10:07:45 PM
No need in  explanations, Atlas. You just dead as espected. Well, at least you recognise when you are wrong, at least on public. It is more than you can await from fanatic. So respect.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: LightRider on July 23, 2011, 03:14:12 AM
More information here (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=5373.0).

Ok, so you can't provide any support for this statement?

Mugging and starving are the choices presented in a monetary system.

A monetary system perpetuates structural violence, which is more far reaching and more devastating than physical violence. This discussion is outside of the thread topic, however.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: BitterTea on July 23, 2011, 01:50:12 PM
More information here (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=5373.0).

Ok, so you can't provide any support for this statement?

Mugging and starving are the choices presented in a monetary system.

A monetary system perpetuates structural violence, which is more far reaching and more devastating than physical violence. This discussion is outside of the thread topic, however.

Anyone can make assertions, but nothing you've said backs this up. If you're talking about fiat money, sure, states are violent. Feel free to make another thread to prove money causes violence and link it here. Thanks.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: coingenuity on July 23, 2011, 07:44:41 PM
The irony of a decentralized currency forum complaining about the ethos of free-market capitalism astounds me.

That being said, who cares whether or not he sells it? Selling the subreddit would probably improve the quality of the service by infusing it with capital and staff.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: BitterTea on July 23, 2011, 10:22:43 PM
The irony of a decentralized currency forum complaining about the ethos of free-market capitalism astounds me.

Then you don't understand the meaning of free market. The complaining is their avenue of recourse. Notice they are not threatening him with violence explicitly or through the law.


Title: Re: My comments on trying to sell the r/Bitcoin subreddit:
Post by: LightRider on July 24, 2011, 11:28:25 PM
More information here (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=5373.0).

Ok, so you can't provide any support for this statement?

Mugging and starving are the choices presented in a monetary system.

A monetary system perpetuates structural violence, which is more far reaching and more devastating than physical violence. This discussion is outside of the thread topic, however.

Anyone can make assertions, but nothing you've said backs this up. If you're talking about fiat money, sure, states are violent. Feel free to make another thread to prove money causes violence and link it here. Thanks.

I have already directed you to the appropriate thread.