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Title: 2013-10-08 TheTimes.co.uk - Beware turning drug dealers into folk heroes
Post by: kiko on October 08, 2013, 10:26:34 AM
[paywalled] http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/hugorifkind/article3889234.ece

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The ‘pirates’ behind the Silk Road website are deluded if they think they are standing up for freedom
Look, if I were a multi- millionaire online drug dealer, I’d probably pretend it was all about the politics, too. Of a morning, in the bathroom, I just think it would make it a little easier to look at myself in the mirror.

Page 25 (opinion section) of the print edition.


Title: Re: 2013-10-08 TheTimes.co.uk - Beware turning drug dealers into folk heroes
Post by: murraypaul on October 08, 2013, 10:40:48 AM
+1


Title: Re: 2013-10-08 TheTimes.co.uk - Beware turning drug dealers into folk heroes
Post by: Gordon Bleu on October 08, 2013, 10:54:07 AM
like i would listen to some "deluded" Comment,
accept it the Drugs have won the War against Drugs


Title: Re: 2013-10-08 TheTimes.co.uk - Beware turning drug dealers into folk heroes
Post by: meanig on October 08, 2013, 12:46:07 PM
The article was written by Hugo Rifkind, son of the formerly influential Conservative politician Malcolm Rifkind. Little Hugo is a fully paid up honorary member of the political elite so when he speaks what you're really hearing is the political establishment rationalising the reasons for own its own existence.

I know replying to his piece with an ad hominem attack is the lowest form of argument but he was looking for it with the loaded language that he used.


Title: Re: 2013-10-08 TheTimes.co.uk - Beware turning drug dealers into folk heroes
Post by: PrintMule on October 08, 2013, 12:48:56 PM
The article was written by Hugo Rifkind, son of the formerly influential Conservative politician Malcolm Rifkind. Little Hugo is a fully paid up honorary member of the political elite so when he speaks what you're really hearing is the political establishment rationalising the reasons for own its own existence.

I know replying to his piece with an ad hominem attack is the lowest form of argument but he was looking for it with the loaded language that he used.

Yeah, he's probably a dick, but still, his point is quite valid.


Title: Re: 2013-10-08 TheTimes.co.uk - Beware turning drug dealers into folk heroes
Post by: eric345 on October 08, 2013, 03:00:27 PM
The title is correct, but the rest is a biased opinion.
Technically speaking, the pirate behind sr. wasn't a drug dealer, he was a broker. The pirate sr programmer made a platform so that drug dealers could sell there stuff on-line, with a third party for save transactions.
Second, it's not just about politics, it's a lot more than that. For example, in the medical encyclopaedic cannabis is a medicine, but it's a illegal product in most countries. Same thing with opium. Besides that, the most lethal drugs, like herion, are created by pharmaceutical companies, or government controlled research departments.
Sr. gave people the option to choose between the two.


Title: Re: 2013-10-08 TheTimes.co.uk - Beware turning drug dealers into folk heroes
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on October 08, 2013, 05:16:08 PM
[paywalled] http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/hugorifkind/article3889234.ece

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The ‘pirates’ behind the Silk Road website are deluded if they think they are standing up for freedom
Look, if I were a multi- millionaire online drug dealer, I’d probably pretend it was all about the politics, too. Of a morning, in the bathroom, I just think it would make it a little easier to look at myself in the mirror.

Page 25 (opinion section) of the print edition.


like that. i wonder why so much people feel like he is a hero, thats ridiculous. he had 80 mio dollar on his account and gives a shit on everyone who has nothing to eat etc. . thats no modern robin hood or something like that.


Title: Re: 2013-10-08 TheTimes.co.uk - Beware turning drug dealers into folk heroes
Post by: Carlton Banks on October 08, 2013, 06:12:59 PM
The article was written by Hugo Rifkind, son of the formerly influential Conservative politician Malcolm Rifkind. Little Hugo is a fully paid up honorary member of the political elite so when he speaks what you're really hearing is the political establishment rationalising the reasons for own its own existence.

I know replying to his piece with an ad hominem attack is the lowest form of argument but he was looking for it with the loaded language that he used.

Yeah, he's probably a dick, but still, his point is quite valid.

Possibly not, when you consider the scale of how hypocritical it could be. Not to say the writer is somehow involved in drug dealing, but significant political figures do use their power and status to profit from drug dealing, although it's very rare that they are caught (the power and status must be useful even if they are caught). Simple use of illegal drugs is also not uncommon amongst the political class, I understand the surfaces in the toilet facilities in the European Parliament building in Brussels were once revealed to have significant evidence of cocaine use.

So, at best, Hugo is ignorant of the habits of those who have long inhabited his world, and at worst, he's shilling for them. In the most insidious way, no less.