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Economy => Securities => Topic started by: statdude on October 08, 2013, 10:57:24 PM



Title: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: statdude on October 08, 2013, 10:57:24 PM
Please answer! This press release is not clear.


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: Luckybit on October 08, 2013, 11:04:47 PM
Please answer! This press release is not clear.

Why is it they set the date for right before crowdfunding law comes into affect? Are they not wanting regulation? Probably easier to run the site without regulation.

Another US site with regulation should be able to take its place


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on October 08, 2013, 11:06:42 PM
MPEx.


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: 2weiX on October 08, 2013, 11:10:56 PM
MPEx.


NNNNNOOOOOOooooooooohhh!


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: Kushedout on October 08, 2013, 11:15:31 PM
MPEx.

Anything but...

My eyes bleed if I look at the interface for more then 2sec.


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: statdude on October 09, 2013, 12:14:55 AM
Also,
Why Nov 1st, such a short time period for US to sell shares and the market to absorb this?

Is it this me, or is this pure incompetence  ???


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: statdude on October 09, 2013, 12:24:20 AM
I'm starting to think the best way to respond to this farce is to trust someone outside the US to deal with my shares as a proxy.

Sucks, but what else are you going to do? Take a 50%+ loss?


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: chsados on October 09, 2013, 12:39:59 AM
I'm starting to think the best way to respond to this farce is to trust someone outside the US to deal with my shares as a proxy.

Sucks, but what else are you going to do? Take a 50%+ loss?

Enough is enough, it is time to get serious about supporting development of colored coins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308085.0)


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: pascal257 on October 09, 2013, 12:52:15 AM
By Nov.1 the US debt will have defaulted, so unless Ukyo didn't exchange the loan into USD, it will be worthless anyway.


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: digit on October 09, 2013, 01:27:37 AM
something is wrong with the site, i'm not in US but its blocking my buy orders and giving the message "US Users may not Buy"


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: HowlingMad on October 09, 2013, 02:56:03 AM
something is wrong with the site, i'm not in US but its blocking my buy orders and giving the message "US Users may not Buy"
I think it is a general stoppage until everyone gets their identification straightened out.  I tried creating an account from my friends computer in France and no luck either.


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: fran2k on October 09, 2013, 03:06:18 AM
I'm starting to think the best way to respond to this farce is to trust someone outside the US to deal with my shares as a proxy.

I'm willing to help with this. How will be the right way to help managing others portfolio?

Enough is enough, it is time to get serious about supporting development of colored coins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308085.0)

Sure, P2P is the way. And remember BitCoins are for the netEconomy just as BBS was for the Internet.

We're still at the very begining. This is just showing us we have to move into another direction.


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: Atruk on October 09, 2013, 10:35:05 AM
MPEx.

Anything but...

My eyes bleed if I look at the interface for more then 2sec.


You hate it. Mircea probably hates it.

The fact is though, the only Bitcoin Securities exchange that is going to let Americans on in the future is operated by a dude who isn't particularly fond with 'Murica. If you hadn't noticed that Satoshi character tried to bake subversive deep enough into Bitcoin that he had to leave. The only securities guy confident enough to make not leaving a part of his business model is MP. If you want to trade bitcoin securities you might be stuck with him.


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: alphaking on October 09, 2013, 11:09:44 AM
MPEx.
The pooooor UI  >:(


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: pedrog on October 09, 2013, 01:38:36 PM
I'm starting to think the best way to respond to this farce is to trust someone outside the US to deal with my shares as a proxy.

Sucks, but what else are you going to do? Take a 50%+ loss?

I can help with that.


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: kakobrekla on October 09, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
MPEx.

Lol!

You made me spit out my coffee!



Must have been some green beans?


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: MPOE-PR on October 10, 2013, 12:35:17 AM
I know you guys like mpex but it is pretty much over for them. Most people would rather have nothing than mpex. No asset could move there.

Still with this? I guess if you've been wrong for years what's adding another one.


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: kakobrekla on October 10, 2013, 03:56:37 PM
I know you guys like mpex but it is pretty much over for them. Most people would rather have nothing than mpex. No asset could move there.

Still with this? I guess if you've been wrong for years what's adding another one.

You are getting better at pr i see but things like stealing all the btc from some of your listings like the one james ran will haunt you forever.



Hey watch out, my coffee is not for spitting.


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: statdude on October 14, 2013, 02:13:54 AM
So, Ukyo never answered :(


Title: Re: UKYO - Can US Members collect divs or "transfer" assets after 11/1?
Post by: kingcrimson on October 14, 2013, 02:57:10 AM
The update answered it, and it is not pretty. all users who dont confirm as non US, will have their shares forcefully returned to the issuer.

So issuers need to act pretty quickly.