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Title: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 09, 2013, 02:29:18 PM
Like the subject line says, vote for me in 2020 and I'll try to make BTC the national US Currency.

EDIT: I'll also limit all politician's terms to a max of 2.  No need to have career politicians in office refusing to get work done while the rest of the US struggles, and having them getting paid 6 figures to do so... 


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: wtfvanity on October 09, 2013, 02:32:24 PM
If you're on the ballot in my state, I'll vote for you. Why 2020 and not 2016?


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 09, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
The minimum age to run for president is 35, and I won't be old enough until 2020...I'm only 29 right now.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: wtfvanity on October 09, 2013, 03:02:59 PM
Are you running with a part? What are your plans to get on ballots?

Has any write in candidate in modern history for president ever had more than a thousand votes?


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 09, 2013, 03:52:04 PM
Are you running with a part? What are your plans to get on ballots?

Has any write in candidate in modern history for president ever had more than a thousand votes?

I'm going to run as an independent and I don't have an idea for a vice president ATM...Figure if I start campaigning now and get people to see the "average joe" american trying to create change, rather then being a career politician, it might be a good thing.  America was founded on the idea that anybody could be a leader of this country, but now it's the person with the most money that can be the leader of this country.  I want to change that.  I want to make it so anybody who is capable of acting like a leader be able to be a leader, not anyone who can buy the leadership gets it. 


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: wtfvanity on October 09, 2013, 04:32:03 PM
Are you running with a part? What are your plans to get on ballots?

Has any write in candidate in modern history for president ever had more than a thousand votes?

I'm going to run as an independent and I don't have an idea for a vice president ATM...Figure if I start campaigning now and get people to see the "average joe" american trying to create change, rather then being a career politician, it might be a good thing.  America was founded on the idea that anybody could be a leader of this country, but now it's the person with the most money that can be the leader of this country.  I want to change that.  I want to make it so anybody who is capable of acting like a leader be able to be a leader, not anyone who can buy the leadership gets it. 

If you don't think you need money to win the election, you won't get on the ballot in any state. Wild dream. Time to wake up though.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 09, 2013, 04:41:42 PM
Are you running with a part? What are your plans to get on ballots?

Has any write in candidate in modern history for president ever had more than a thousand votes?

I'm going to run as an independent and I don't have an idea for a vice president ATM...Figure if I start campaigning now and get people to see the "average joe" american trying to create change, rather then being a career politician, it might be a good thing.  America was founded on the idea that anybody could be a leader of this country, but now it's the person with the most money that can be the leader of this country.  I want to change that.  I want to make it so anybody who is capable of acting like a leader be able to be a leader, not anyone who can buy the leadership gets it. 

If you don't think you need money to win the election, you won't get on the ballot in any state. Wild dream. Time to wake up though.

That's the problem!  Money, money, money, money,moneymoneymoneymoney

That's all that 'Mur'ca's about.  That's all that most people are about.  It's disgusting to think that, with enough money, I can do anything I want, how I want, to whom I want, when I want, where I want and suffer no consequences.  It's worse to think that I'm paying some old fart's 6 figure income to sit around and shit his pants after a "hard life" of being a congressman, staying up all those late nights, taking so few days off, with that terrible health care available to him.  That's the kind of thing that is a drain on our society and a waste of money. 

But in order to fix it, I need to buy my way into the election.  Does that not seem fucked to you?


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BitcoinBarrel on October 09, 2013, 04:49:30 PM
Create a Kickstarter and you will raise money. As big as Bitcoin is becoming I wouldn't be surprised if many people donated to your cause.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 09, 2013, 05:01:56 PM
Create a Kickstarter and you will raise money. As big as Bitcoin is becoming I wouldn't be surprised if many people donated to your cause.

Not sure if I'm allowed to create a kickstarter for a presidential campaign that's going to be 7 years in the making...


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: ronimacarroni on October 09, 2013, 06:24:37 PM
No thanks, I'd rather vote libertarian.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 09, 2013, 06:34:34 PM
No thanks, I'd rather vote libertarian.

So based on that statement, you don't care what I represent, you just want to make sure I have the right title?  Something about a book and it's cover come to me here...


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: justusranvier on October 11, 2013, 12:14:55 AM
Voting is immoral, like bidding in a slave auction.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on October 11, 2013, 01:30:21 AM
Lol, there is no way this will even come close to working, but if we get a couple thousand votes anywhere it might make the news somewhere, which will be worth it IMHO.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: viboracecata on October 11, 2013, 03:23:27 AM
Give an enthusiastic speech video please, and I'll help to spread it


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: bitcon on October 11, 2013, 05:42:08 AM
vote for me and i'll try to make bitcoin official currency and try to ban fiat and try to end all wars and try to feed all the starving people and try to save all the whales. i'll also try to make sure every US citizen gets a new car.   ;D  :P



Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: ronimacarroni on October 11, 2013, 06:03:15 AM
Libertarians already support bitcoins.
I really think this is pointless.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: Kluge on October 11, 2013, 06:07:50 AM
You'd be better off fabricating a claim on the US and proclaiming yourself rightful heir, raising an army. I'll support you, but we have to regularly check in with the FBI and give them access to some of the brains controlling recruits so our methods can be weaponized. We can't use old and/or current methods, like excess symbolism - so we can't just have a bunch of pretender logos plastered around stronghold towns. We'll have to figure out something else... False flags are out, too. This will be difficult, but you seem like the kind of stoner who'll rapidly vomit out comments from left-field which could eventually spawn an idea worth developing.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: cowandtea on October 11, 2013, 06:10:33 AM
Go ahead, I will vote for you. You better do what you promised!!


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: 0xz[.] on October 11, 2013, 08:41:23 AM
Can count on me.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 11, 2013, 11:49:54 AM
This will be difficult, but you seem like the kind of stoner who'll rapidly vomit out comments from left-field which could eventually spawn an idea worth developing.

Is it possible for you to justify this comment by any means?  This baseless judgement reveals that we need to fund education further...


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 11, 2013, 12:40:54 PM
And all these labels...that kills me.  There is no "us" and "them", or "left", "right", or "center".  Libertarians aren't the only people who hold the bitcoin ideology up.  I'm certainly no libertarian, or democrat, or republican, or socialist.  I'm a guy who wants to better the future of our country, of bitcoin, and of the lives of each person in our country.  I won't treat "us" any different from "them". 


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: wtfvanity on October 11, 2013, 01:23:25 PM
The funny part about the whole vote for me for president and I'll...

The president doesn't make the laws. You're talking the wrong branch of goverment. Unless you have a majority of people thinking like you in congress, it will never happen. Even when they have the majority they still can't get stuff done. And look where we are at today.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: ronimacarroni on October 11, 2013, 01:29:18 PM
And all these labels...that kills me.  There is no "us" and "them", or "left", "right", or "center".  Libertarians aren't the only people who hold the bitcoin ideology up.  I'm certainly no libertarian, or democrat, or republican, or socialist.  I'm a guy who wants to better the future of our country, of bitcoin, and of the lives of each person in our country.  I won't treat "us" any different from "them". 
That's something a socialist would say.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 11, 2013, 01:45:15 PM
And all these labels...that kills me.  There is no "us" and "them", or "left", "right", or "center".  Libertarians aren't the only people who hold the bitcoin ideology up.  I'm certainly no libertarian, or democrat, or republican, or socialist.  I'm a guy who wants to better the future of our country, of bitcoin, and of the lives of each person in our country.  I won't treat "us" any different from "them". 
That's something a socialist would say.

So by saying what I've said you think I'm demonstrating any of the following:

1:  any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2a :  a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
   b:  a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3:  a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

I'm not saying everything should be government controlled, nor am I saying that there will be no "private property".  And currently, it looks as though (by the 3rd definition) we're already in a socialist state by the fact that the harder you work, the less you get paid.  Look at welfare recipients who take advantage of the system.  More kids + No Work = More $$$...


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: ronimacarroni on October 11, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
And all these labels...that kills me.  There is no "us" and "them", or "left", "right", or "center".  Libertarians aren't the only people who hold the bitcoin ideology up.  I'm certainly no libertarian, or democrat, or republican, or socialist.  I'm a guy who wants to better the future of our country, of bitcoin, and of the lives of each person in our country.  I won't treat "us" any different from "them". 
That's something a socialist would say.

So by saying what I've said you think I'm demonstrating any of the following:

1:  any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2a :  a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
   b:  a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3:  a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

I'm not saying everything should be government controlled, nor am I saying that there will be no "private property".  And currently, it looks as though (by the 3rd definition) we're already in a socialist state by the fact that the harder you work, the less you get paid.  Look at welfare recipients who take advantage of the system.  More kids + No Work = More $$$...
And all these labels...that kills me.  There is no "us" and "them", or "left", "right", or "center".  Libertarians aren't the only people who hold the bitcoin ideology up.  I'm certainly no libertarian, or democrat, or republican, or socialist.  I'm a guy who wants to better the future of our country, of bitcoin, and of the lives of each person in our country.  I won't treat "us" any different from "them". 
That's something a socialist would say.

So by saying what I've said you think I'm demonstrating any of the following:

1:  any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2a :  a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
   b:  a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3:  a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

I'm not saying everything should be government controlled, nor am I saying that there will be no "private property".  And currently, it looks as though (by the 3rd definition) we're already in a socialist state by the fact that the harder you work, the less you get paid.  Look at welfare recipients who take advantage of the system.  More kids + No Work = More $$$...
uh well okay...
I just don't get it.
Why you don't want to spread bitcoins through a more established party?
You know it has taken decades for the libertarian party to get to where it is.
Politics is slow.
Just sayian.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: Ipsum on October 11, 2013, 03:46:57 PM
The funny part about the whole vote for me for president and I'll...

The president doesn't make the laws. You're talking the wrong branch of goverment. Unless you have a majority of people thinking like you in congress, it will never happen. Even when they have the majority they still can't get stuff done. And look where we are at today.


Yep. The idea that someone could become President (obviously the OP has a zero percent chance of becoming so, but this is all a theoretical thought experiment) and then singlehandedly declare bitcoin the national currency is hilariously naive. The President is the head of the executive branch of government. He is not America's king.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 11, 2013, 04:24:56 PM

Yep. The idea that someone could become President (obviously the OP has a zero percent chance of becoming so, but this is all a theoretical thought experiment) and then singlehandedly declare bitcoin the national currency is hilariously naive. The President is the head of the executive branch of government. He is not America's king.

I am aware that "singlehandedly declar[ing] bitcoin the national currency is hilariously naive" but my point is more to stir the pot and see what bubbles up.  I know it would, quite literally, take an act of congress to do this...and we all know that congress is currently unable to do anything. 

What about my other statement of limiting all politicians to no more than 2 terms?  I'm sure that's a pipe dream as well because it would have to be voted on and "ain't nobody got time for that", to put it eloquently. 

I guess the best thing to do would be to replace 535 backwards thinkers with progressive (and by this I mean people who are willing to create change and be open to learning new things, not the republican's horribly negative view on forward thinkers),  young, and enthusiastic people.  Guess we need 535 bitcoiners to run for those positions.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: wtfvanity on October 11, 2013, 04:37:13 PM

Yep. The idea that someone could become President (obviously the OP has a zero percent chance of becoming so, but this is all a theoretical thought experiment) and then singlehandedly declare bitcoin the national currency is hilariously naive. The President is the head of the executive branch of government. He is not America's king.

I am aware that "singlehandedly declar[ing] bitcoin the national currency is hilariously naive" but my point is more to stir the pot and see what bubbles up.  I know it would, quite literally, take an act of congress to do this...and we all know that congress is currently unable to do anything. 

What about my other statement of limiting all politicians to no more than 2 terms?  I'm sure that's a pipe dream as well because it would have to be voted on and "ain't nobody got time for that", to put it eloquently. 

I guess the best thing to do would be to replace 535 backwards thinkers with progressive (and by this I mean people who are willing to create change and be open to learning new things, not the republican's horribly negative view on forward thinkers),  young, and enthusiastic people.  Guess we need 535 bitcoiners to run for those positions.

And enough money behind them to dethrone the well financed major parties... Find 535 progressive, young and enthusiastic people would never be a problem. It's getting them elected that becomes unrealistic.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: halfawake on October 12, 2013, 06:06:06 AM
Leaving aside the whole issue that it's pretty much impossible to get elected president in any party other than a Democrat or Republican, you do know that this idea is absurd, right?  Don't get me wrong, I love bitcoin, but it's no where near ready to be the official currency of the United States.  Given time, with luck, it should eventually get to that point, but it's way too volatile right now to actually be any country's national currency.  But I seriously doubt 7 years is going to be enough time for Bitcoin to get to that point.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: Mike Christ on October 12, 2013, 10:14:13 AM
How do you plan on getting around the electoral college?  Since, y'know, Americans don't actually vote anyway, they just recommend.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: asdf on October 12, 2013, 11:49:11 PM
Run on the platform of abolishing the Federal Government and you got my vote.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: pinnpe on October 13, 2013, 09:47:53 AM
BRADLEYPLOOF

You can start warming up people by going to
http://democracy.com/default.aspx


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 13, 2013, 01:41:45 PM
BRADLEYPLOOF

You can start warming up people by going to
http://democracy.com/default.aspx

Hey, thanks!!!


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: Lethn on October 14, 2013, 06:10:37 AM
And all these labels...that kills me.  There is no "us" and "them", or "left", "right", or "center".  Libertarians aren't the only people who hold the bitcoin ideology up.  I'm certainly no libertarian, or democrat, or republican, or socialist.  I'm a guy who wants to better the future of our country, of bitcoin, and of the lives of each person in our country.  I won't treat "us" any different from "them".  
That's something a socialist would say.

This attitude is precisely why the majority of the world is pissed off at Americans, people can only ever fit into your extremely narrow view on the world, you probably think Europe is a country don't you? That said, I could respect that post if I just got flame baited but there are people who actually believe that sort of bullshit :P.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on October 15, 2013, 03:33:26 AM
And all these labels...that kills me.  There is no "us" and "them", or "left", "right", or "center".  Libertarians aren't the only people who hold the bitcoin ideology up.  I'm certainly no libertarian, or democrat, or republican, or socialist.  I'm a guy who wants to better the future of our country, of bitcoin, and of the lives of each person in our country.  I won't treat "us" any different from "them".  
That's something a socialist would say.

This attitude is precisely why the majority of the world is pissed off at Americans, people can only ever fit into your extremely narrow view on the world, you probably think Europe is a country don't you? That said, I could respect that post if I just got flame baited but there are people who actually believe that sort of bullshit :P.

That's something the politicians want the sheeple to think.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: hulk on October 16, 2013, 03:00:05 PM
The funny part about the whole vote for me for president and I'll...

The president doesn't make the laws. You're talking the wrong branch of goverment. Unless you have a majority of people thinking like you in congress, it will never happen. Even when they have the majority they still can't get stuff done. And look where we are at today.

Well, you just need Obama mention the word "Bitcoin" would get the price up to $1000. So it does influence.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: allthingsluxury on October 17, 2013, 05:20:18 PM
lol, best of luck to you!


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: CurbsideProphet on October 17, 2013, 05:43:58 PM
No thanks, I'd rather vote libertarian.

So based on that statement, you don't care what I represent, you just want to make sure I have the right title?  Something about a book and it's cover come to me here...

No one has any idea what you represent.  No background, no credentials, no platform, nothing but "I'll proclaim Bitcoin the national currency, vote for me!"   ::)


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: Aco on October 21, 2013, 02:21:17 PM
You will face SO MUCH resistance from the old fucks that don't understand a damn thing about technology.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: BRADLEYPLOOF on October 21, 2013, 03:04:33 PM
You will face SO MUCH resistance from the old fucks that don't understand a damn thing about technology.


Yup, but the old fucks get voted into office by the young whippersnappers...they do understand technology.  Gotta get the kids out to vote and replace old, used up blood with new, fresh, intelligent blood.


Title: Re: Vote for me in 2020 as US President and I'll proclaim bitcoin national currency
Post by: Bees Brothers on October 21, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
You have mentioned Congress “not getting things done” a couple of times now.  I get a feeling that you are referring to their lack of accomplishments as a bad thing. 
Is that correct?

I tend to want gridlock, because seldom does anything they do decrease the size of government but expands their powers and further burdens the slave taxpayer.

Care to elaborate on your views of what and how “getting things done” means?