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Title: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: L0naaa on March 10, 2018, 09:51:24 AM
Suppo's shilling credits vs Ivan on tech - entertaining video here  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNzos1xcObY&t=3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNzos1xcObY&t=3s)


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 12:20:17 AM
Potential investors, CS fans and newcomers:
Give 20 minutes from your time researching about credits before you invest your money on this project.
This is a well-organized scam.
Dont trust their supporters here as some of them are bots and some are early birds who are seeing their x6 profit decreasing and they are panicked.
Give some time getting knowledge for your investment.

Ivan on tech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKbbrt4P0s&t

1st research
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@terminate1/people-deserve-to-know-the-facts-behind-credits-ico

http://textuploader.com/dxu2c

2nd research
https://medium.com/@suchi.blackwing/cryptocurrency-code-review-credits-f6c42c3f6f80

Specifically about their new video release
https://np.reddit.com/r/credits/comments/85btx8/commentary_of_credits_second_alpha_test_post/

An example that ethereum can achieve 1.5+ mln TPS on similar pointless conditions.
https://medium.com/@suchi.blackwing/cryptocurrency-scaling-ethereum-to-1-5-million-tps-cd10f5e3f7cc

Fake and scam partnerships
AITERNIS - scam
Cryptogaule.fr - contains a virus be careful when you visit this site
messengerbank
https://np.reddit.com/r/credits/comments/85rd9g/fake_and_scam_partnerships_the_cringe_with_this/

You can also watch their scam ico promoter Suppoman as he made few videos of them that created a hype.
Watch this clown and then you judge yourself which one you think brings value on the crypto industry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-62JOnpJutI&t=

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/85ao9f/suppoman_advised_his_followers_to_get_into_the/

here you can see their bots and fake accounts working.

I researched a bit more. The CEO has a website credits.ru since 2011 and had 11 odd devs earlier. They would have tried to acquire credits.com earlier. Clearly they are not fly by night. Only question is whether they achieved 1mn TPS

I researched a bit more. The CEO has a website credits.ru since 2011 and had 11 odd devs earlier. They would have tried to acquire credits.com earlier. Clearly they are not fly by night. Only question is whether they achieved 1mn TPS

I prefer to support this project instead of listening to those fudster, it's my money and my time anyway I have seen the interview and check the team composition and I believe they will not ruin their reputation with this accusations let's see how it goes when they launch their platform.

For now I prefer to support this project instead of listening to those fudster too, it's my money and my time anyway I have seen the interview and check the team composition and I believe they will not ruin their reputation with this accusations let's see how it goes when they launch their platform. And I believe in that proj and keep these coins and I think after some time everything will be fine and the coin will grow.

For now I prefer to support this project instead of listening to those fudster too, it's my money and my time anyway I have seen the interview and check the team composition and I believe they will not ruin their reputation with this accusations let's see how it goes when they launch their platform. And I believe in that proj and keep these coins and I think after some time everything will be fine and the coin will grow.

Check previous pages too so you can get a conclusion about how their "professional" marketerS work creating a hype every time.

The only thing they have is a pdf they created which they called it whitepaper and a video that shows transactions between 2 nodes running on same computer with zero network latency due to hyper-v.

Be cautious guys.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: elwiswoodie on March 22, 2018, 12:23:32 AM
I still do hold on to the CS coins
I do not know why the community that formed seemed so strong and made me believe
Credits succeeded in reaching hardcap in a short period of time, and that's for sure the smart contributors and the thousands
is it possible, thousands of people will be deceived and not careful about token sale results of Credits?


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 12:49:11 AM
I still do hold on to the CS coins
I do not know why the community that formed seemed so strong and made me believe
Credits succeeded in reaching hardcap in a short period of time, and that's for sure the smart contributors and the thousands
is it possible, thousands of people will be deceived and not careful about token sale results of Credits?
Take some time and read the articles. Then decide if you want to hold or sell so you can take the profit.
Its always like this with scams. Many people loose money.
Be careful next time and get more knowledge before you invest your money. There are a lot of scammers out there.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: rarg on March 22, 2018, 01:01:04 AM
Wow, you have interesting facts here. When I first saw this project, I interested in the idea and community.
But I still doubt when they reached hard cap. Well, if this is all true, I can say this is a professional scammer.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: cheus on March 22, 2018, 04:36:02 AM
Facepalm)


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: rarg on March 22, 2018, 04:43:34 AM
Facepalm)

Well, honestly I am neutral here. I just want to know your all arguments from both sides. This is important for me because I starting to do some list of what characteristic scam ICO. I hope this discussion ended well for both sides.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sangkler11 on March 22, 2018, 04:45:49 AM
Suppo's shilling credits vs Ivan on tech - entertaining video here  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNzos1xcObY&t=3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNzos1xcObY&t=3s)
really ?? yes we must be cautious with the credits project, credits team already respond about this video so that make investors still believe in this credits project.
credits team have realeased a video about alpha test platform, the test results show credits able to run more than 480k TPS (Transaction Per second), I think this results very amazing


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: MetaMod on March 22, 2018, 05:41:30 AM
You are the guy who are destroying the reputation of CREDITS from the yesterday,they didnt scam people,did they abandoned the investors? didnt notice they run away because they are active in telegram group? whats your shit?? does it changed the fact that credits are going to surpass those existing tokens and coins in the market?

get a life you may want to close your fist and then punch your face  ;D
the developers and team are doing their job are you a competitor or what?


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 09:45:16 AM
You are the guy who are destroying the reputation of CREDITS from the yesterday,they didnt scam people,did they abandoned the investors? didnt notice they run away because they are active in telegram group? whats your shit?? does it changed the fact that credits are going to surpass those existing tokens and coins in the market?

get a life you may want to close your fist and then punch your face  ;D
the developers and team are doing their job are you a competitor or what?

Im the guy who tries to destroy scammers. Better get used to me.
Scammers are hurting this industry years now and every newcomer here is getting scammed by pathetic human beings as you and greedy scammers you support.
Its not since yesterday mister. We are here many days warning newcomers.
You and every other "investor" that is scared for his investment should sh*t up and make things clear for these scammers.
If you have something valuable to comment about our accusations we are all ears.
But as always you just say pretty words about credits and about how much im getting paid and im a competitor and some bullsh*t like this because there is nothing to defend yourselves.



Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 09:51:18 AM
Wow, you have interesting facts here. When I first saw this project, I interested in the idea and community.
But I still doubt when they reached hard cap. Well, if this is all true, I can say this is a professional scammer.

They are trying with fake accounts to create a hype as back then with suppoman the ico clown who gets paid to promote any sh*ty ico.
They are using bots too. Pathetic partners and some of them are even scammers too.

Facepalm)

Well, honestly I am neutral here. I just want to know your all arguments from both sides. This is important for me because I starting to do some list of what characteristic scam ICO. I hope this discussion ended well for both sides.

cheus is one of the team so dont apologize on him. He is trying every day to create a hype so newcomers get in. They have no value to present thats why they are trying with any marketing method to convince newcomers to join.

Its good you are creating a list with the characteristic of the scams.
If you need some help you can send me.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: Chiyoko on March 22, 2018, 09:54:22 AM
Suppo's shilling credits vs Ivan on tech - entertaining video here  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNzos1xcObY&t=3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNzos1xcObY&t=3s)
Please read always the article, because the scam is always there where ever you go, if you are there in this situation, be careful always.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: anggriani on March 22, 2018, 09:56:37 AM
What are you doing? Why did you just tell us after they've walked this far?

I think credits have grown very well to this day, we can not easily believe your statement here. We wait and see, whether your statement is true or not.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: Akiko on March 22, 2018, 09:57:37 AM
Wow, you have interesting facts here. When I first saw this project, I interested in the idea and community.
But I still doubt when they reached hard cap. Well, if this is all true, I can say this is a professional scammer.
Yes your right and they now how to scam the people that didn't read all the need and the project of what you inter be careful and make more knowledge to make succesful.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: Xelpherpolis on March 22, 2018, 10:02:42 AM
Many people don't do any research projects before investing in the ICO. They are bribed by beautiful pictures on the website and fictitious figures of fundraising. This is initially the wrong approach. Be careful before investing!


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 10:03:40 AM
What are you doing? Why did you just tell us after they've walked this far?

I think credits have grown very well to this day, we can not easily believe your statement here. We wait and see, whether your statement is true or you alone are crazy.

If you check the official announcement page we are there long time warning newcomers.
You will also see there the fake accounts and the bots they use to create a hype.



Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: BayAgapito on March 22, 2018, 10:07:26 AM
Im the guy who tries to destroy scammers. Better get used to me.
Scammers are hurting this industry years now and every newcomer here is getting scammed by pathetic human beings as you and greedy scammers you support.
Its not since yesterday mister. We are here many days warning newcomers.
You and every other "investor" that is scared for his investment should sh*t up and make things clear for these scammers.
If you have something valuable to comment about our accusations we are all ears.
But as always you just say pretty words about credits and about how much im getting paid and im a competitor and some bullsh*t like this because there is nothing to defend yourselves.
Let the people or the community be the judges,if the coin or project didnt succeed well thanks for your warnings,but if the coin has succeed so be it.Do not let your willingness to warn be like you are just spreading FUDs,let them know the truth because the voice of the people will always be heard no matter what lies they are saying the truth will always come.

Stop the hate bro,i have heard you guys are from the competitor's developer team.
You could help each other to create a better coin or project.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 10:07:51 AM
Many people don't do any research projects before investing in the ICO. They are bribed by beautiful pictures on the website and fictitious figures of fundraising. This is initially the wrong approach. Be careful before investing!
Exactly.
Thats why its always wise we share some thoughts with newcomers. This will help the industry so scammers can be avoided.
Also it creates value as people will invest in legit projects and no scammers.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: efey399 on March 22, 2018, 10:10:03 AM
These ranks for crypto currencies are the most popular coin Credits. there is intense demand and the price rises above it. The project is very good. it will come to better places in the coming years.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 10:13:08 AM
Im the guy who tries to destroy scammers. Better get used to me.
Scammers are hurting this industry years now and every newcomer here is getting scammed by pathetic human beings as you and greedy scammers you support.
Its not since yesterday mister. We are here many days warning newcomers.
You and every other "investor" that is scared for his investment should sh*t up and make things clear for these scammers.
If you have something valuable to comment about our accusations we are all ears.
But as always you just say pretty words about credits and about how much im getting paid and im a competitor and some bullsh*t like this because there is nothing to defend yourselves.
Let the people or the community be the judges,if the coin or project didnt succeed well thanks for your warnings,but if the coin has succeed so be it.Do not let your willingness to warn be like you are just spreading FUDs,let them know the truth because the voice of the people will always be heard no matter what lies they are saying the truth will always come.

Stop the hate bro,i have heard you guys are from the competitor's developer team.
You could help each other to create a better coin or project.
Hate for shouting down scammers? Are you for real?
As i said IF you have something valuable to add EXCEPT talking about FUD, competitors and sh*ts like that, then we can hear you.
If NOT then the FACTS talk and not scammers.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 10:15:39 AM
These ranks for crypto currencies are the most popular coin Credits. there is intense demand and the price rises above it. The project is very good. it will come to better places in the coming years.
Talk with facts you scam. Dont try to convince people to invest to your sh*ty ico.
Where is your VALUE?
Why people should buy credits?
What has credits that any other coin hasnt?
Where we can see your code progress?
You have nothing!
Your team is a certificated scam.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: cheus on March 22, 2018, 10:38:46 AM
Wow, you have interesting facts here. When I first saw this project, I interested in the idea and community.
But I still doubt when they reached hard cap. Well, if this is all true, I can say this is a professional scammer.

They are trying with fake accounts to create a hype as back then with suppoman the ico clown who gets paid to promote any sh*ty ico.
They are using bots too. Pathetic partners and some of them are even scammers too.

Facepalm)

Well, honestly I am neutral here. I just want to know your all arguments from both sides. This is important for me because I starting to do some list of what characteristic scam ICO. I hope this discussion ended well for both sides.

cheus is one of the team so dont apologize on him. He is trying every day to create a hype so newcomers get in. They have no value to present thats why they are trying with any marketing method to convince newcomers to join.

Its good you are creating a list with the characteristic of the scams.
If you need some help you can send me.
It sounds as if the schoolboy went to the blockchain courses and took up the mass exposure of the scam)) you did not even communicate with anyone and already have some terrible evidence)
But you work out the money, work out, not for nothing that you probably paid

I want to quote a phrase from the movie - "Boring, girls)"


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 10:57:45 AM

cheus is one of the team so dont apologize on him. He is trying every day to create a hype so newcomers get in. They have no value to present thats why they are trying with any marketing method to convince newcomers to join.

Its good you are creating a list with the characteristic of the scams.
If you need some help you can send me.
It sounds as if the schoolboy went to the blockchain courses and took up the mass exposure of the scam)) you did not even communicate with anyone and already have some terrible evidence)
But you work out the money, work out, not for nothing that you probably paid

I want to quote a phrase from the movie - "Boring, girls)"

Do you have something valuable to add mister cheus or you will keep talking sh*t to people?
We talk with facts. Your team talks with fancy words trying to impress newcomers to join your pathetic ico.
Pathetic ico, pathetic team, pathetic project.
You are scams that belong to jail for scamming people.
Go talk to your CEO now about how to stop us from exposing your sh*ty ico.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sento02 on March 22, 2018, 11:52:42 AM
To newcomers here following the thread.

Since the date of membership, all of the messages are anti credits.

Who are you fooling? FUDDERS sebastian787 and therat


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1922506;sa=showPosts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1167657;sa=showPosts


Do not cry anymore you look funny


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 11:56:50 AM
here you can check their ico scam promoter called Suppoman that gets exposed.
Watch the video with this clown and judge by yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Ex2dp9MtA&feature=youtu.be&t=852


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: cheus on March 22, 2018, 12:27:05 PM

cheus is one of the team so dont apologize on him. He is trying every day to create a hype so newcomers get in. They have no value to present thats why they are trying with any marketing method to convince newcomers to join.

Its good you are creating a list with the characteristic of the scams.
If you need some help you can send me.
It sounds as if the schoolboy went to the blockchain courses and took up the mass exposure of the scam)) you did not even communicate with anyone and already have some terrible evidence)
But you work out the money, work out, not for nothing that you probably paid

I want to quote a phrase from the movie - "Boring, girls)"

Do you have something valuable to add mister cheus or you will keep talking sh*t to people?
We talk with facts. Your team talks with fancy words trying to impress newcomers to join your pathetic ico.
Pathetic ico, pathetic team, pathetic project.
You are scams that belong to jail for scamming people.
Go talk to your CEO now about how to stop us from exposing your sh*ty ico.
It's a good thing that until March 3, you did not do anything sensible on the forum, and then you had a huge potential of an expert in our ICO, a good one, I hope this will help you very much in the future and you will be able to expose the real scam. Call, please, when you are trolling another project, in this you are beautiful. Thank's man


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: Holla123 on March 22, 2018, 12:48:45 PM
Suppo's shilling credits vs Ivan on tech - entertaining video here  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNzos1xcObY&t=3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNzos1xcObY&t=3s)

That one is easily answered. Check on the track records for both. Suppoman was also shilling B3 coin. In comparison check the older videos form Ivan on Tech and which projects he was looking on.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 12:49:37 PM
Do you have something valuable to add mister cheus or you will keep talking sh*t to people?
We talk with facts. Your team talks with fancy words trying to impress newcomers to join your pathetic ico.
Pathetic ico, pathetic team, pathetic project.
You are scams that belong to jail for scamming people.
Go talk to your CEO now about how to stop us from exposing your sh*ty ico.
It's a good thing that until March 3, you did not do anything sensible on the forum, and then you had a huge potential of an expert in our ICO, a good one, I hope this will help you very much in the future and you will be able to expose the real scam. Call, please, when you are trolling another project, in this you are beautiful. Thank's man

Again nothing valuable to add about what we are accusing credits.
You and all other fake accounts your projects use concentrate on how many comments i leave here and there.
You small minded pathetic scams.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: AshCoins on March 22, 2018, 02:21:36 PM
Interesting list of links and data you’ve compiled.  I followed this project a bit around the time of ICO and remember there were a number of red flags.  I don’t recall most of them, but I do recall they kept pushing back the alpha release that was supposed to happen before the crowdsale and they changed the ICO terms like a dozen times.  And then ultimately, they imposed restrictions on contributions where you were allotted a small cap based on when you registered but this turned out to be another marketing gimmick as people were able to contribute as much as they wanted.  I will hand it to the team for their marketing prowess though.  In a major down market, they were able to hype a questionable project into a 5x return. 


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: anggriani on March 22, 2018, 02:28:35 PM

Go talk to your CEO now about how to stop us from exposing your sh*ty ico.
what do you mean by going to talk to the CEO?
do you want a ransom to stop talking?

come on, if you want something then say it here, so we all know.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sebastian787 on March 22, 2018, 11:51:37 PM
Here you can check an example of how they create the fake accounts with many posts and activity.
Plus the bots that they are working all day long around the forum for creating posts and activity so
newcomers will think that these accounts are legit and unique.
Because of this activity newcomers will think that their comments are standing and are from experienced members.
So watch out this kind of accounts as are all artificial created for commenting all over the forum
creating a hype every day with stupid updates and creating "experienced" accounts.

https://i.imgur.com/C208eLI.png

https://i.imgur.com/zVN4eIN.png

https://i.imgur.com/pCv4Oqr.png

https://i.imgur.com/sQ9kZAI.png

https://i.imgur.com/GQOBgpr.png

We need to mention here that in this thread the representative is ICOCloud.
Watch out the rest accounts and their activity.
JennyH
Mike Sh
Falleot
cprman

So now you can imagine what happens on the rest of the forum on thousand of topics on different sections.
Any account praising these scammers can be or a fake account created by them or just greedy investors
that are afraid about their investment and they keep supporting these scammers no matter what so newcomers
can invest more money and will pump the price.


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: Astrilian on April 01, 2018, 08:23:29 PM
Suppo's shilling credits vs Ivan on tech - entertaining video here  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNzos1xcObY&t=3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNzos1xcObY&t=3s)

I watched the video, how is this a comparison between Suppoman and Ivan on Tech? This is a mere 3min entertainment video about scammers in the Crypto world...besides that I think Suppoman is way out of Ivans League, he merely shills for certain coins and has been dead wrong many times. I watched a few videos and then decided not to waste more time. Ivan however has set a new standard when it comes to go beyond your hearsay knowledge and truly understand blockchain technologies. 


Title: Re: CREDITS SCAM - SUPPO vs IVAN ON TECH
Post by: sedahan13 on April 07, 2018, 09:07:15 AM
I havebeen watch video of Supoman and Ivan on tech that was make review about Credits, and in technical i dont understanding how Credits will create faster blockchain than other blockchain. And in that video look Ivan on tech has more knowledge about blockchain technology. But so far the price of Credits given good return to the investor. Hopefully project of Credits is legit and the price will continue rise.