Title: BTCjam: crowdfunding a KNCminer Saturn Post by: soylent green on October 12, 2013, 03:31:03 PM https://btcjam.com/listings/7189
I realize the requirements for requesting a loan on BTCjam are less stringent than what's suggested in the FAQ for this subforum, but I chose to use that platform because it has both feedback and moderation- I thought those features might increase investor confidence. As noted in the loan comments at the bottom of the page, I have been depositing my own BTC income as well- I have skin in this game, I'm not just expecting everyone else to buy a miner for me. I'm happy to answer any questions ITT. Title: Re: BTCjam: crowdfunding a KNCminer Saturn Post by: soylent green on October 13, 2013, 03:52:59 AM Wow- no feedback at all? I spent all day out shooting clays and I was expecting a flood of negative comments when I returned. ;D
I guess if there's not enough interest I'll continue saving my coins and make a different purchase in a couple months when other hardware is close to shipping. Title: Re: BTCjam: crowdfunding a KNCminer Saturn Post by: antho on October 17, 2013, 08:05:59 AM how to Verify myaccount ?
Title: Re: BTCjam: crowdfunding a KNCminer Saturn Post by: naphto on October 17, 2013, 04:03:56 PM Good luck with your loan, but can we trust you?
Title: Re: BTCjam: crowdfunding a KNCminer Saturn Post by: soylent green on October 18, 2013, 05:25:01 PM Good luck with your loan, but can we trust you? I'd like to think so. As I am an engineer at Bitpay, defaulting on this loan would reflect very poorly on the company, and probably cost me my job. The output of a KNCMiner Saturn is not at all worth that risk. Thanks for the well wishes. I will pay in one more deposit from my "pyramidhead" account later today, but unless I get similar contributions from others in the next few hours, it looks like this isn't going to happen. Que sera- experiments don't always work, but it's important to try :) Title: Re: BTCjam: crowdfunding a KNCminer Saturn Post by: Vod on October 18, 2013, 11:22:50 PM Good luck with your loan, but can we trust you? I'd like to think so. As I am an engineer at Bitpay, defaulting on this loan would reflect very poorly on the company, and probably cost me my job. The output of a KNCMiner Saturn is not at all worth that risk. We already had a scammer (Hydroponica) use his employment as security for a loan. Guess what? He still defaulted. Title: Re: BTCjam: crowdfunding a KNCminer Saturn Post by: soylent green on October 19, 2013, 12:01:55 AM We already had a scammer (Hydroponica) use his employment as security for a loan. Guess what? He still defaulted. Well, moot point now, with 10min left and myself the only major buy-in- but I am pretty damned sure Tony and Stephen would tell me to hit the bricks if I did *anything* to paint the company in a negative light. I feel very lucky to have landed a job at Bitpay and have been working quite hard for them. I don't know the story on Hydroponica. But I would have to be a massive idiot to jeopardize my employment on a loan that only represents about one month of gross income. As mentioned in the loan listing, Bitpay pays part of my salary in BTC- talk about killing the goose... The idea behind crowdfunding this purchase was to distribute the output of at least one ASIC miner, because it bugs me a little bit how much mining power has been concentrated in the hands of relatively few. Suggestions on what I can do to increase confidence in the meantime? Ideas: - I own two motorcycles worth more than the requested loan amount. Could use them as collateral. - I've never been very active on the forums; I will change that. (I wish I'd had enough liquid BTC to buy that Ducati that was FS a few weeks ago.) - I'll try a smaller loan amount next time; going from 1BTC to 30 probably did play a hand in scaring people off; I thought putting in ~4.5BTC of my own would alleviate those concerns but appears not. You're not wrong to be suspicious- I got taken for .25BTC from a bad borrower on BTCjam myself. But I left this thread open for any questions anyone wanted to ask- asking the kind of questions that represent vetting a borrower would be more appropriate than just saying "this one guy was a scammer so you are too". Title: Re: BTCjam: crowdfunding a KNCminer Saturn Post by: Vod on October 19, 2013, 12:25:36 AM - I'll try a smaller loan amount next time; going from 1BTC to 30 probably did play a hand in scaring people off; I thought putting in ~4.5BTC of my own would alleviate those concerns but appears not. That's just going from 1BTC to 25.5BTC with no collateral. Title: Re: BTCjam: crowdfunding a KNCminer Saturn Post by: soylent green on October 19, 2013, 12:30:33 AM That's just going from 1BTC to 25.5BTC with no collateral. Once again- I am asking for constructive criticism here. As I said, I have two motorcycles, together worth more than the loan amount, that I would have used as collateral, had somebody asked. Do you have any suggestions I haven't already put forth myself? |