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Title: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 12, 2018, 02:49:14 PM
So here is his topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2864913.0
it was full of warning signs but I wanted to see where this scam ends and how
1) no pictures of full stock
2) local pickup not possible ok i may understand this somehow but still...
3) Very fast want to push everything, when I mentioned I send PM to escrow  he told no and asked to send email
4) I told him I sent email but I didn't I was testing him
5) few min later email arrive thank god gmail have this feature which warn it's phishing email
it looks real email with escrow address but this email is spoofed 100%
That's why this idiot agreed for any price I offered actually $35K would be very low for all this but he just immediately agree. It could happen if urgent sale but you know old saying if too good to be true it is.
He closed his thread so nobody can write his doubts every day bumping for sure if he was genuine he would sell long time ago at least one unit Lol

This bastard should be banned escrow should insist always send double messages via email and also via PM confirm. With other email provider user would not get warning and this scam could easy get through!!!!!


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 12, 2018, 03:50:51 PM
Thanks god for this thread :"D:D:D
Monbux was already informed for your scam attempt.
Next time when you trying to scam someone at least use your brain retarded faggot.
Interesting how you will explain how I did received email consider only YOU know my email.
Interesting how you will show I AGREE on anything else than using escrow.
Interesting how someone else than YOU is the scammer here consider I told you to pm the escrow you scamming twat.
Now fuck off and try to scam someone else.
Monbux was informed, bye bye scammer.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 12, 2018, 04:02:02 PM
Thanks god for this thread :"D:D:D
Monbux was already informed for your scam attempt.
Next time when you trying to scam someone at least use your brain retarded faggot.
Interesting how you will explain how I did received email consider only YOU know my email.
Interesting how you will show I AGREE on anything else than using escrow.
Interesting how someone else than YOU is the scammer here consider I told you to pm the escrow you scamming twat.
Now fuck off and try to scam someone else.
Monbux was informed, bye bye scammer.
you are under some drugs or what that's why you talk like shit.
To put it simple here is what you did:
Suggested escrow which have email in his thread, then spoofed this email and put there your BTC wallet.
So this was your BTC wallet not escrow you would take money and run away.
Now how is scam from my part what actions from me would be considered any material loss for you?
Anyone who have brains will understand who is right.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 12, 2018, 05:26:33 PM
Thanks god for this thread :"D:D:D
Monbux was already informed for your scam attempt.
Next time when you trying to scam someone at least use your brain retarded faggot.
Interesting how you will explain how I did received email consider only YOU know my email.
Interesting how you will show I AGREE on anything else than using escrow.
Interesting how someone else than YOU is the scammer here consider I told you to pm the escrow you scamming twat.
Now fuck off and try to scam someone else.
Monbux was informed, bye bye scammer.
you are under some drugs or what that's why you talk like shit.
To put it simple here is what you did:
Suggested escrow which have email in his thread, then spoofed this email and put there your BTC wallet.
So this was your BTC wallet not escrow you would take money and run away.
Now how is scam from my part what actions from me would be considered any material loss for you?
Anyone who have brains will understand who is right.
Now its time to show your proofs scammer :)
Funny how the fake escrow contacted me right after I told you my email.
Pathetic low life scamming fag


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 12, 2018, 05:54:30 PM
here we go proof it was phishing email
http://i64.tinypic.com/2ed8osi.jpg


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 12, 2018, 08:04:35 PM
Slut, I received just the same message right after I give you my email.
You spoofed the escrow email because no one else than you had my email you scamming fag.
Don't even try to  pull ur bullshits on my back because u were the one who "send email" to the escrow, and know my email only.
You are the scamming fag who said you send him email and then I received email on my spam box same as yours.
Obviously you send one to yourself just to make the things more legit.
I will go after you and your scamming girlfriend who tagged me.
Both of you will be reported for faking escrow and both of you will go to create new accounts scamming fags.
You are just the same like the previous scamming faggot who were talking shits about ognasty.
I will catch you both scamming faggots.

suchmoon, slut, show me HOW AND WHERE I faked escrow for tagging me you brain dead monkey ?
or you want me to make your account to go with 500 negative reps for less than night?
don't abuse ur trust rating faggot, if u want to tag ask for evidences you cum slut


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: suchmoon on March 12, 2018, 08:20:05 PM
here we go proof it was phishing email

You might want to edit your name out of the screenshot.

Can you explain how ziku65 got your e-mail address?

Slut, I received just the same message right after I give you my email.
You spoofed the escrow email because no one else than you had my email you scamming fag.
Don't even try to  pull ur bullshits on my back because u were the one who "send email" to the escrow, and know my email only.
You are the scamming fag who said you send him email and then I received email on my spam box same as yours.
Obviously you send one to yourself just to make the things more legit.
I will go after you and your scamming girlfriend who tagged me.
Both of you will be reported for faking escrow and both of you will go to create new accounts scamming fags.
You are just the same like the previous scamming faggot who were talking shits about ognasty.
I will catch you both scamming faggots.

suchmoon, slut, show me HOW AND WHERE I faked escrow for tagging me you brain dead monkey ?
or you want me to make your account to go with 500 negative reps for less than night?
don't abuse ur trust rating faggot, if u want to tag ask for evidences you cum slut

You have a locked self-moderated thread selling high-value items and you're pushing communication into skype. Your juvenile outburst is making it harder to believe you.

I have contacted monbux to weigh in on this situation.

Edit - this PM is not helping either:

where is ur proofs against ur statements you retard ?
read before placing negative feedback or I will make your account red with non trusted feedbacks just for 100$ on reddit
I hate faggots like you who tag people without proofs against them
you slut.

If you have a reasonable version of what actually happened - let me know.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 12, 2018, 08:41:09 PM
here we go proof it was phishing email

You might want to edit your name out of the screenshot.

Can you explain how ziku65 got your e-mail address?

Slut, I received just the same message right after I give you my email.
You spoofed the escrow email because no one else than you had my email you scamming fag.
Don't even try to  pull ur bullshits on my back because u were the one who "send email" to the escrow, and know my email only.
You are the scamming fag who said you send him email and then I received email on my spam box same as yours.
Obviously you send one to yourself just to make the things more legit.
I will go after you and your scamming girlfriend who tagged me.
Both of you will be reported for faking escrow and both of you will go to create new accounts scamming fags.
You are just the same like the previous scamming faggot who were talking shits about ognasty.
I will catch you both scamming faggots.

suchmoon, slut, show me HOW AND WHERE I faked escrow for tagging me you brain dead monkey ?
or you want me to make your account to go with 500 negative reps for less than night?
don't abuse ur trust rating faggot, if u want to tag ask for evidences you cum slut

You have a locked self-moderated thread selling high-value items without photos and you're pushing communication into skype. Your juvenile outburst is making it harder to believe you.

I have contacted monbux to weigh in on this situation.

Edit - this PM is not helping either:

where is ur proofs against ur statements you retard ?
read before placing negative feedback or I will make your account red with non trusted feedbacks just for 100$ on reddit
I hate faggots like you who tag people without proofs against them
you slut.

If you have a reasonable version of what actually happened - let me know.

I have contacted Monbux about this OP scamming piece of shit way before you -> http://prntscr.com/iqavae
Next time when you want to tag people, at least tag the right one or don't make yourseslf look retarded and abuse your shitty powers.
Tag when there is proofs, or go fucking tag the whole forum.
I run moderated thread because of this you moron -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2885281
I had open thread and I had just the same guy trying to scam me but in different way.
Next time when you want to play "hero" to the forum, check yourself and the person you are trying to tag before looking like a fool.
Since the previous sscam attempt against me I will never ever open thread which wont be self moderated.
I don't sese that's something against the rules?
There is proof of ownership on my thread same as accepting escrow (yes I do accept it no matter I have the right to not accept).
Remove this shit color from my name and check who the real scammer is here, or tag the OP just like me and right after your brain realize how to act and against who, you can either leave both or place negative on both of us. Me for being retard using this scamming forum, and this kid for being awful scammer just like the last one I catch.
If u don't have actual version for tagging people without knowing whats going on I will report you for abusing ytour trust score and also make your "trust" sscore to look way way better  than it is now.
People who don't uses their brains, doing researches and obviously don't know why tagging should not have that power.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: suchmoon on March 12, 2018, 08:59:08 PM
I have contacted Monbux about this OP scamming piece of shit way before you -> http://prntscr.com/iqavae
Next time when you want to tag people, at least tag the right one or don't make yourseslf look retarded and abuse your shitty powers.
Tag when there is proofs, or go fucking tag the whole forum.
I run moderated thread because of this you moron -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2885281
I had open thread and I had just the same guy trying to scam me but in different way.
Next time when you want to play "hero" to the forum, check yourself and the person you are trying to tag before looking like a fool.
Since the previous sscam attempt against me I will never ever open thread which wont be self moderated.
I don't sese that's something against the rules?
There is proof of ownership on my thread same as accepting escrow (yes I do accept it no matter I have the right to not accept).
Remove this shit color from my name and check who the real scammer is here, or tag the OP just like me and right after your brain realize how to act and against who, you can either leave both or place negative on both of us. Me for being retard using this scamming forum, and this kid for being awful scammer just like the last one I catch.
If u don't have actual version for tagging people without knowing whats going on I will report you for abusing ytour trust score and also make your "trust" sscore to look way way better  than it is now.
People who don't uses their brains, doing researches and obviously don't know why tagging should not have that power.

Let's wait for monbux to respond.

In the meantime you could post the full source of the fake escrow e-mail message that you claim you have also received.

janmismm88, please do the same. Choose "Show Original" in gmail, copy the text, edit out personal details, and post it here or PM to me.

https://meem.link/i/a/3MPEHx.jpg
Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image



ziku65, your excuse to not respond via PM is a lie:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2864913.msg29891096#msg29891096

Quote
New members can send 2 pms per day.

At the time you were already a Jr. Member and could send 30 messages a day.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 12, 2018, 09:29:49 PM
I have contacted Monbux about this OP scamming piece of shit way before you -> http://prntscr.com/iqavae
Next time when you want to tag people, at least tag the right one or don't make yourseslf look retarded and abuse your shitty powers.
Tag when there is proofs, or go fucking tag the whole forum.
I run moderated thread because of this you moron -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2885281
I had open thread and I had just the same guy trying to scam me but in different way.
Next time when you want to play "hero" to the forum, check yourself and the person you are trying to tag before looking like a fool.
Since the previous sscam attempt against me I will never ever open thread which wont be self moderated.
I don't sese that's something against the rules?
There is proof of ownership on my thread same as accepting escrow (yes I do accept it no matter I have the right to not accept).
Remove this shit color from my name and check who the real scammer is here, or tag the OP just like me and right after your brain realize how to act and against who, you can either leave both or place negative on both of us. Me for being retard using this scamming forum, and this kid for being awful scammer just like the last one I catch.
If u don't have actual version for tagging people without knowing whats going on I will report you for abusing ytour trust score and also make your "trust" sscore to look way way better  than it is now.
People who don't uses their brains, doing researches and obviously don't know why tagging should not have that power.

Let's wait for monbux to respond.

In the meantime you could post the full source of the fake escrow e-mail message that you claim you have also received.

janmismm88, please do the same. Choose "Show Original" in gmail, copy the text, edit out personal details, and post it here or PM to me.

https://i.snag.gy/3MPEHx.jpg



ziku65, your excuse to not respond via PM is a lie:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2864913.msg29891096#msg29891096

Quote
New members can send 2 pms per day.

At the time you were already a Jr. Member and could send 30 messages a day.
What the actual fuck monbux have to do here consider the OP faked him and tried to scam me ? :D
And I don't give actual fuck about pms, I'm not lying anywhere, I clearly stating on all my threads people to contact me over skype?
And ofc new members can send 2 pms per day based on what the newbies says to me once they contacting me or posting on random thread.
I'm not newbie to know that, I only can believe what the newbies says.
Also this have nothing to do with this scamming OP shit and the thread at all LOL
That also does not change the fact you are trust abuser and protecting scammer and tagging around without proofs.
I will wait little bit more before I take actions.
Why all fake "trusted" randoms like you always trying to touch without watch threads based on no evidences but never go to obvious thread with all evidences and tag scammers.
you guys are shame for the trust system and pathetic


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 12, 2018, 11:36:21 PM
Giving you 12 hours to remove the fake trust on my profile, or I will take actions :)
P.S: I don't keep fake spoofed emails thanks.
I receive enough daily from fake blockchain info and gods know what more.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: suchmoon on March 12, 2018, 11:45:09 PM
What the actual fuck monbux have to do here consider the OP faked him and tried to scam me ? :D
And I don't give actual fuck about pms, I'm not lying anywhere, I clearly stating on all my threads people to contact me over skype?
And ofc new members can send 2 pms per day based on what the newbies says to me once they contacting me or posting on random thread.
I'm not newbie to know that, I only can believe what the newbies says.
Also this have nothing to do with this scamming OP shit and the thread at all LOL
That also does not change the fact you are trust abuser and protecting scammer and tagging around without proofs.
I will wait little bit more before I take actions.
Why all fake "trusted" randoms like you always trying to touch without watch threads based on no evidences but never go to obvious thread with all evidences and tag scammers.
you guys are shame for the trust system and pathetic

janismm88 provided at least a screenshot of the e-mail. You have claimed to have received the same e-mail and you're accusing janismm88 of sending it, so it's not unreasonable to ask you to show some kind of proof of that.

Giving you 12 hours to remove the fake trust on my profile, or I will take actions :)
P.S: I don't keep fake spoofed emails thanks.
I receive enough daily from fake blockchain info and gods know what more.

So you deleted the e-mail and wiped it out from your trashcan too?

Threatening me isn't gonna get you anywhere.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 12, 2018, 11:59:39 PM
What the actual fuck monbux have to do here consider the OP faked him and tried to scam me ? :D
And I don't give actual fuck about pms, I'm not lying anywhere, I clearly stating on all my threads people to contact me over skype?
And ofc new members can send 2 pms per day based on what the newbies says to me once they contacting me or posting on random thread.
I'm not newbie to know that, I only can believe what the newbies says.
Also this have nothing to do with this scamming OP shit and the thread at all LOL
That also does not change the fact you are trust abuser and protecting scammer and tagging around without proofs.
I will wait little bit more before I take actions.
Why all fake "trusted" randoms like you always trying to touch without watch threads based on no evidences but never go to obvious thread with all evidences and tag scammers.
you guys are shame for the trust system and pathetic

janismm88 provided at least a screenshot of the e-mail. You have claimed to have received the same e-mail and you're accusing janismm88 of sending it, so it's not unreasonable to ask you to show some kind of proof of that.

Giving you 12 hours to remove the fake trust on my profile, or I will take actions :)
P.S: I don't keep fake spoofed emails thanks.
I receive enough daily from fake blockchain info and gods know what more.

So you deleted the e-mail and wiped it out from your trashcan too?

Threatening me isn't gonna get you anywhere.
Do you have mental problems or you playing a mod or something here ?
Where is the fucking proofs about ME doing ANYTHING wrong.
Not only the fake claim from the retarded op but ANYTHING.
Show me the fuck a single proof ?
On what your negative rep is based ?
By the same logic I can open your thread against you and DT1 come and tag you? Oh sorry DT1 got much more bran than you mate. They require EVIDENCES. ANY KIND OF PROOF.
Don't play something you are not (A mod) ur IQ is lower than the required.
Put negative feedback on someone who deserve it kid.
Now learn what EVIDENCES and PROOFS are and then double think who and how you tagging.
I'm not interested to keep any fake shits especially from retards who can't even scam properly (Thanks god).
Fuck off and check urself before playing MOD.
You are not, and u will never be.... By the way you follow "Logic"... There is no logic on your acts or questions...
Waiting monbux, asking for emails. The fuck is wrong with you ? Monbux got no idea the scamming OP is impersonating him you know right?
Same as the OP never provided single proof I scammed or even tried to scam him or fake escrow.
For god sake from where you are dumbass ?


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: suchmoon on March 13, 2018, 12:13:53 AM
Do you have mental problems or you playing a mod or something here ?
Where is the fucking proofs about ME doing ANYTHING wrong.
Not only the fake claim from the retarded op but ANYTHING.
Show me the fuck a single proof ?
On what your negative rep is based ?
By the same logic I can open your thread against you and DT1 come and tag you? Oh sorry DT1 got much more bran than you mate. They require EVIDENCES. ANY KIND OF PROOF.
Don't play something you are not (A mod) ur IQ is lower than the required.
Put negative feedback on someone who deserve it kid.
Now learn what EVIDENCES and PROOFS are and then double think who and how you tagging.
I'm not interested to keep any fake shits especially from retards who can't even scam properly (Thanks god).
Fuck off and check urself before playing MOD.
You are not, and u will never be.... By the way you follow "Logic"... There is no logic on your acts or questions...
Waiting monbux, asking for emails. The fuck is wrong with you ? Monbux got no idea the scamming OP is impersonating him you know right?
Same as the OP never provided single proof I scammed or even tried to scam him or fake escrow.
For god sake from where you are dumbass ?

Actually the OP presented a reasonably believable case. You're talking about proof but you have failed to provide any proof of your accusation against the OP.

Do you have PM/chat logs with the OP?

BTW scams are not moderated.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 13, 2018, 01:42:23 AM
Do you have mental problems or you playing a mod or something here ?
Where is the fucking proofs about ME doing ANYTHING wrong.
Not only the fake claim from the retarded op but ANYTHING.
Show me the fuck a single proof ?
On what your negative rep is based ?
By the same logic I can open your thread against you and DT1 come and tag you? Oh sorry DT1 got much more bran than you mate. They require EVIDENCES. ANY KIND OF PROOF.
Don't play something you are not (A mod) ur IQ is lower than the required.
Put negative feedback on someone who deserve it kid.
Now learn what EVIDENCES and PROOFS are and then double think who and how you tagging.
I'm not interested to keep any fake shits especially from retards who can't even scam properly (Thanks god).
Fuck off and check urself before playing MOD.
You are not, and u will never be.... By the way you follow "Logic"... There is no logic on your acts or questions...
Waiting monbux, asking for emails. The fuck is wrong with you ? Monbux got no idea the scamming OP is impersonating him you know right?
Same as the OP never provided single proof I scammed or even tried to scam him or fake escrow.
For god sake from where you are dumbass ?

Actually the OP presented a reasonably believable case. You're talking about proof but you have failed to provide any proof of your accusation against the OP.

Do you have PM/chat logs with the OP?

BTW scams are not moderated.
They should be because of retards like you.
I don't need to provide any proofs, the OP should provide proofs against me lol.
Now I see why this forum is full of bullshit.
Scammers reporting the legit sellers because they can't scam us.
Retards with "trust" means nothing abusing their powers playing mods without brain.
This is so hilarious :D
I'm thinking more and more to become a scammer, seems like they are more welcome here than the real people trying to sell their shits here.
At least next time when some retard tag me like you, I would know why I have this red trust...
Now mr fake MOD try to use the 1% of your 8% working brain and start thinking who needs to provide what to who.
I don't give a fuck what this scamming piece of shit saying, if he want to say something, I'm sitting here waiting to see his proofs for the statements.
Otherwise all of you scamming twats can fuck off and get job.
Oh and please, OP, share your proofs public here so everyone can see what kind of drugs exactly you take.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: suchmoon on March 13, 2018, 02:15:58 AM
They should be because of retards like you.
I don't need to provide any proofs, the OP should provide proofs against me lol.
Now I see why this forum is full of bullshit.
Scammers reporting the legit sellers because they can't scam us.
Retards with "trust" means nothing abusing their powers playing mods without brain.
This is so hilarious :D
I'm thinking more and more to become a scammer, seems like they are more welcome here than the real people trying to sell their shits here.
At least next time when some retard tag me like you, I would know why I have this red trust...
Now mr fake MOD try to use the 1% of your 8% working brain and start thinking who needs to provide what to who.
I don't give a fuck what this scamming piece of shit saying, if he want to say something, I'm sitting here waiting to see his proofs for the statements.
Otherwise all of you scamming twats can fuck off and get job.
Oh and please, OP, share your proofs public here so everyone can see what kind of drugs exactly you take.

You have already acknowledged that there was a conversation between you and janismm88. There is a screenshot of an e-mail that janismm88 received after that conversation. You have acknowledged that e-mail as well. You claimed that janismm88 sent it but you have no proof and your excuse of having deleted that e-mail is quite flimsy. What are the possibilities?

1) Some third party is scamming both of you? Unlikely, since that would require knowing both e-mail addresses and knowing that you were discussing a deal in private.
2) janismm88 is scamming you? Somewhat more likely but janismm88 was first to report this and it's a difficult scam for a buyer to pull off. It would require you to ship the items without checking with the escrow and it would open janismm88 for doxing.
3) janismm88 is trying to frame you? Not sure why. Do you have prior history with janismm88?
4) You're trying to pull off a fake escrow scam? Seeing your erratic behavior, inability to substantiate your counter-claims, and refusal to provide very simple and reasonable info (e-mail, chat log, etc) this seems more and more likely. Bonus points: the escrow e-mail was worded with a heavy slant towards the buyer sending money before checking with escrow, and it used "u" as a word, which I've not seen in janismm88's posts but plenty in yours.

Your attacks against me are misplaced. I'm trying to help you prove your point and you're sabotaging it with your every post.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 13, 2018, 08:08:03 AM
here we go proof it was phishing email

You might want to edit your name out of the screenshot.

Can you explain how ziku65 got your e-mail address?

he asked via skype conversation it was his plan of scam ...


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 13, 2018, 08:13:17 AM



here we go full email details:
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Message ID   <20180312142010.0BA35D5BDA@emkei.cz>
Created at:   Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 4:20 PM (Delivered after 11 seconds)
From:   Monbux Bitcointalk <monbux.bitcointalk@gmail.com>
To:   robertsskrumins85@gmail.com
Subject:   Escrow Request
SPF:   SOFTFAIL with IP 46.167.245.205 Learn more
DMARC:   'FAIL' Learn more


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Hello, thanks for choosing me for your escrow.
I hope you check already my references in my thread -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.0
My email is also noted there.
Escrow service also starts only after the payment is in deposit on escrow (me).
So in first place you need to place your deposit (including my fee).
If u don't like to cover the fee, u can tell the seller/buyer but it should be paid via BTC.
The wallet for BTC deposit is -> 1JgEbZ9vqdJvXrduLqrxM6Lq9wpksUvvgf

Please, reply to this email ONLY after deposit is made because before it the escrow service will not start.
Also reply with the agreement with the seller/buyer so i can request tracking number and so.
Stay safe.
Looking forward to hear you back
Monbux Bitcointalk

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Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 13, 2018, 08:22:41 AM
@ziku65
you stupid asshole explain how scam can work if I'M the one who send money to fake BTC wallet!!!!! EMAIL ASKED ME (not you!!!) TO SEND MONEY TO FAKE ACCOUNT NOT YOU!!! If I followed email instructions I would loose money. At no point someone asked you to ship anything or to send your money anywhere etc. So explain if it was scam from me at what point and how you could loose money or goods???
For me simple I would send $35K to this fake BTC wallet and I'm fucked up!!!! I have filed report to Czech police where you are located. Admins should check that this bastard for sure is not in UK but from Czech!!!!
 I even offered local pickup. So you wouldn't even ship your goods idiot. At no point there was any chance for you to loose anything. So if it was via escrow I would come to see goods check them and release your coins and then take goods so how the fuck hell is possible scam from my side??? You brainless animal!!!!


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 13, 2018, 08:32:41 AM
So ZIKU65 what would be your loss if I completed email instructions and sent money to that BTC wallet????
Plus at no point it was asked to ship anything etc. Even more I offered local pickup and before I would take goods your coins would be released so at what point and under what proof you call me scammer? EXPLAIN HOW THE FUCK you could get scammed in this situation????
DID someone asked to send your money somewhere? NO I was asked!!!
Did someone asked you to ship Goods ??? No I offered pickup!!!!

I guess this brainlesss  animal will not understand anyway just reply with some BS...
 I strongly encourage mods and admins to check IP from where ziku65 registered and posted if it come from Czech republic. If he was so dumabass that didnt use VPN etc and really used for forum registration posting same IP as in scam email then we got him :)
IN the mean time I'm filling police report against this bastard.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 13, 2018, 09:44:48 AM
They should be because of retards like you.
I don't need to provide any proofs, the OP should provide proofs against me lol.
Now I see why this forum is full of bullshit.
Scammers reporting the legit sellers because they can't scam us.
Retards with "trust" means nothing abusing their powers playing mods without brain.
This is so hilarious :D
I'm thinking more and more to become a scammer, seems like they are more welcome here than the real people trying to sell their shits here.
At least next time when some retard tag me like you, I would know why I have this red trust...
Now mr fake MOD try to use the 1% of your 8% working brain and start thinking who needs to provide what to who.
I don't give a fuck what this scamming piece of shit saying, if he want to say something, I'm sitting here waiting to see his proofs for the statements.
Otherwise all of you scamming twats can fuck off and get job.
Oh and please, OP, share your proofs public here so everyone can see what kind of drugs exactly you take.

You have already acknowledged that there was a conversation between you and janismm88. There is a screenshot of an e-mail that janismm88 received after that conversation. You have acknowledged that e-mail as well. You claimed that janismm88 sent it but you have no proof and your excuse of having deleted that e-mail is quite flimsy. What are the possibilities?

1) Some third party is scamming both of you? Unlikely, since that would require knowing both e-mail addresses and knowing that you were discussing a deal in private.
2) janismm88 is scamming you? Somewhat more likely but janismm88 was first to report this and it's a difficult scam for a buyer to pull off. It would require you to ship the items without checking with the escrow and it would open janismm88 for doxing.
3) janismm88 is trying to frame you? Not sure why. Do you have prior history with janismm88?
4) You're trying to pull off a fake escrow scam? Seeing your erratic behavior, inability to substantiate your counter-claims, and refusal to provide very simple and reasonable info (e-mail, chat log, etc) this seems more and more likely. Bonus points: the escrow e-mail was worded with a heavy slant towards the buyer sending money before checking with escrow, and it used "u" as a word, which I've not seen in janismm88's posts but plenty in yours.

Your attacks against me are misplaced. I'm trying to help you prove your point and you're sabotaging it with your every post.

1) Is it impossible any third party to scam both of us because only the OP know my email.
2) he's not scamming me because he's braindead and that's impossible. I'm pretty sure he's not stupid enough to use his ip to fake the email and also I'm willing to verify with anyone that I'm not even close to Szech republic. He didn't scammed me but he attempted to.
3) trying to frame me ? who knows ? maybe he's friend of the guy who I catch trying to scam me and reported to Lauda and Ognasty. I can only guess...
4) My behavior is mad against everyone here. This cancer community protect scammers, almost never tag them and even after a lie is exposed just like the last guy and this one, those kids were never tagged. I'm pretty sure even this kid won't be tagged.
I don't really care about what words the fake escrow used, I didn't even gave the time to read the bullshit written inside, it was straight put on spam and deleted.

Hedgy also tagged my account but as I can see after checking this thread it was removed.
Its time to wake up mate and start using ur brain before your "powers".
Once again I don't really give a fuck what this scamming OP saying and won't even respond to his bullshits because for me that's another lame scam attempt.
The sad story here is even my negative red got removed, he won't be tagged for failed scamming attempt so this community will remain cancer.
And about you, I would double think before act.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 13, 2018, 10:01:29 AM
you still not answer how it is scam from me????
Because you are brainless animal!!!


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: suchmoon on March 13, 2018, 04:15:55 PM
@ziku65
you stupid asshole explain how scam can work if I'M the one who send money to fake BTC wallet!!!!! EMAIL ASKED ME (not you!!!) TO SEND MONEY TO FAKE ACCOUNT NOT YOU!!! If I followed email instructions I would loose money. At no point someone asked you to ship anything or to send your money anywhere etc. So explain if it was scam from me at what point and how you could loose money or goods???
For me simple I would send $35K to this fake BTC wallet and I'm fucked up!!!! I have filed report to Czech police where you are located. Admins should check that this bastard for sure is not in UK but from Czech!!!!
 I even offered local pickup. So you wouldn't even ship your goods idiot. At no point there was any chance for you to loose anything. So if it was via escrow I would come to see goods check them and release your coins and then take goods so how the fuck hell is possible scam from my side??? You brainless animal!!!!

emkei.cz is a fake e-mail website so it doesn't mean that the perp is located in Czechia.

Can you explain how ziku65 got your e-mail address?

he asked via skype conversation it was his plan of scam ...

ziku65, did you ask for janismm88 e-mail address and why?

And feel free to post the chat logs anytime.

1) Is it impossible any third party to scam both of us because only the OP know my email.
2) he's not scamming me because he's braindead and that's impossible. I'm pretty sure he's not stupid enough to use his ip to fake the email and also I'm willing to verify with anyone that I'm not even close to Szech republic. He didn't scammed me but he attempted to.
3) trying to frame me ? who knows ? maybe he's friend of the guy who I catch trying to scam me and reported to Lauda and Ognasty. I can only guess...
4) My behavior is mad against everyone here. This cancer community protect scammers, almost never tag them and even after a lie is exposed just like the last guy and this one, those kids were never tagged. I'm pretty sure even this kid won't be tagged.
I don't really care about what words the fake escrow used, I didn't even gave the time to read the bullshit written inside, it was straight put on spam and deleted.

Hedgy also tagged my account but as I can see after checking this thread it was removed.
Its time to wake up mate and start using ur brain before your "powers".
Once again I don't really give a fuck what this scamming OP saying and won't even respond to his bullshits because for me that's another lame scam attempt.
The sad story here is even my negative red got removed, he won't be tagged for failed scamming attempt so this community will remain cancer.
And about you, I would double think before act.

You need to make up your mind. You insisted that you received the exact same e-mail as the OP did. You have backpedaled on that, now you're saying you haven't even read it. You're saying that a third party is not involved. That leaves only two people capable of doing it, and only one with a $35k motive and matching grammar. So far you haven't shown anything to suggest that the OP was trying to scam you. Why would you think that the OP needs to be tagged red? Do you want to share your chat logs so that we could see how it leads to the escrow e-mail?


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 13, 2018, 04:30:21 PM
@ziku65
you stupid asshole explain how scam can work if I'M the one who send money to fake BTC wallet!!!!! EMAIL ASKED ME (not you!!!) TO SEND MONEY TO FAKE ACCOUNT NOT YOU!!! If I followed email instructions I would loose money. At no point someone asked you to ship anything or to send your money anywhere etc. So explain if it was scam from me at what point and how you could loose money or goods???
For me simple I would send $35K to this fake BTC wallet and I'm fucked up!!!! I have filed report to Czech police where you are located. Admins should check that this bastard for sure is not in UK but from Czech!!!!
 I even offered local pickup. So you wouldn't even ship your goods idiot. At no point there was any chance for you to loose anything. So if it was via escrow I would come to see goods check them and release your coins and then take goods so how the fuck hell is possible scam from my side??? You brainless animal!!!!

emkei.cz is a fake e-mail website so it doesn't mean that the perp is located in Czechia.

Can you explain how ziku65 got your e-mail address?

he asked via skype conversation it was his plan of scam ...

ziku65, did you ask for janismm88 e-mail address and why?

And feel free to post the chat logs anytime.

1) Is it impossible any third party to scam both of us because only the OP know my email.
2) he's not scamming me because he's braindead and that's impossible. I'm pretty sure he's not stupid enough to use his ip to fake the email and also I'm willing to verify with anyone that I'm not even close to Szech republic. He didn't scammed me but he attempted to.
3) trying to frame me ? who knows ? maybe he's friend of the guy who I catch trying to scam me and reported to Lauda and Ognasty. I can only guess...
4) My behavior is mad against everyone here. This cancer community protect scammers, almost never tag them and even after a lie is exposed just like the last guy and this one, those kids were never tagged. I'm pretty sure even this kid won't be tagged.
I don't really care about what words the fake escrow used, I didn't even gave the time to read the bullshit written inside, it was straight put on spam and deleted.

Hedgy also tagged my account but as I can see after checking this thread it was removed.
Its time to wake up mate and start using ur brain before your "powers".
Once again I don't really give a fuck what this scamming OP saying and won't even respond to his bullshits because for me that's another lame scam attempt.
The sad story here is even my negative red got removed, he won't be tagged for failed scamming attempt so this community will remain cancer.
And about you, I would double think before act.

You need to make up your mind. You insisted that you received the exact same e-mail as the OP did. You have backpedaled on that, now you're saying you haven't even read it. You're saying that a third party is not involved. That leaves only two people capable of doing it, and only one with a $35k motive and matching grammar. So far you haven't shown anything to suggest that the OP was trying to scam you. Why would you think that the OP needs to be tagged red? Do you want to share your chat logs so that we could see how it leads to the escrow e-mail?

Ofc I will ask him for the email, you think I will fall for another scam after the first guy ?
If actually a real escrow contacted me, I would ask who were the guy contacting him about escrow service...
Those stupid questions...
Its also funny how you keep playing "mod" here :D:D:D:D:D
Feel free to ask the OP for PROOFS for his statements not me.
I'm here to say the truth which is: OP is failed and pathetic scammer.
After everything is over, don't forget to tag the right person mr fake mod.
Its funny how also people blaming me for not screening 50+ machines but screening 3-5 like I'm forced to.
I show enough proof I own my shits for sale.
I accept escrow (obviously not spoofed and fake).
And lets see the PROOFS for his statements :D I will have great laugh.
Especially with the part that he claims I agree on any price :D
Also the timing for him would be so auto goal in his ass...
Consider I was the first one who received fake email.
OP, you are pathetic but and funny in the same way.
I feel sorry for you mate.
Also mr fake mod, remove ur fake negative rep on me and feel free to put it if the claims are proof based and right.
Because the 12 hours I said my patience will end is ending.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: suchmoon on March 13, 2018, 04:48:58 PM
Ofc I will ask him for the email, you think I will fall for another scam after the first guy ?
If actually a real escrow contacted me, I would ask who were the guy contacting him about escrow service...
Those stupid questions...
Its also funny how you keep playing "mod" here :D:D:D:D:D
Feel free to ask the OP for PROOFS for his statements not me.
I'm here to say the truth which is: OP is failed and pathetic scammer.
After everything is over, don't forget to tag the right person mr fake mod.
Its funny how also people blaming me for not screening 50+ machines but screening 3-5 like I'm forced to.
I show enough proof I own my shits for sale.
I accept escrow (obviously not spoofed and fake).
And lets see the PROOFS for his statements :D I will have great laugh.
Especially with the part that he claims I agree on any price :D
Also the timing for him would be so auto goal in his ass...
Consider I was the first one who received fake email.
OP, you are pathetic but and funny in the same way.
I feel sorry for you mate.
Also mr fake mod, remove ur fake negative rep on me and feel free to put it if the claims are proof based and right.
Because the 12 hours I said my patience will end is ending.

Post or PM the chat logs. Or have you deleted those too?

I don't really understand most of your rant. I'm not a mod and I can't ban you or delete your posts. You're just saying random things and keep demanding proof. Proof of what? A fake escrow e-mail demanding payment is quite substantial proof of a seller trying to scam a buyer.

If by "screening" you mean photos - it can't be that difficult to take a photo of 50 boxes so I'm not sure why you're bringing this up. What's your reason for not posting those photos? The thing with escrow in such deals is that you can ship a brick and it would still be your word against buyer's word. It would be wise for a reputable seller to put some effort into providing proof of possession, and it's quite typical for scammers to be evasive as you are.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 13, 2018, 09:18:28 PM
Ofc I will ask him for the email, you think I will fall for another scam after the first guy ?
If actually a real escrow contacted me, I would ask who were the guy contacting him about escrow service...
Those stupid questions...
Its also funny how you keep playing "mod" here :D:D:D:D:D
Feel free to ask the OP for PROOFS for his statements not me.
I'm here to say the truth which is: OP is failed and pathetic scammer.
After everything is over, don't forget to tag the right person mr fake mod.
Its funny how also people blaming me for not screening 50+ machines but screening 3-5 like I'm forced to.
I show enough proof I own my shits for sale.
I accept escrow (obviously not spoofed and fake).
And lets see the PROOFS for his statements :D I will have great laugh.
Especially with the part that he claims I agree on any price :D
Also the timing for him would be so auto goal in his ass...
Consider I was the first one who received fake email.
OP, you are pathetic but and funny in the same way.
I feel sorry for you mate.
Also mr fake mod, remove ur fake negative rep on me and feel free to put it if the claims are proof based and right.
Because the 12 hours I said my patience will end is ending.

Post or PM the chat logs. Or have you deleted those too?

I don't really understand most of your rant. I'm not a mod and I can't ban you or delete your posts. You're just saying random things and keep demanding proof. Proof of what? A fake escrow e-mail demanding payment is quite substantial proof of a seller trying to scam a buyer.

If by "screening" you mean photos - it can't be that difficult to take a photo of 50 boxes so I'm not sure why you're bringing this up. What's your reason for not posting those photos? The thing with escrow in such deals is that you can ship a brick and it would still be your word against buyer's word. It would be wise for a reputable seller to put some effort into providing proof of possession, and it's quite typical for scammers to be evasive as you are.
Proof that I faked escrow you moron?
Are you retarded or something ?
He's blocked off skype I don't have any logs and I don't give a fuck about any logs.
I'm not the one who needs to prove his statements here you retarded scum.
Its not difficult to screen 50 boxes ?
You fucking pathetic autist do you know people needs proofs for their statements to make them true or they are just random trash talk ?
Do you represent the random retarded brain dead positive person here or its just you who don't have brain around ?
Don't call me scammer once again you fucking retarded twat or your trust score soon will be flooded just the same way mine was with fake rep.
If you continue with your trash talk and don't request proofs for the scamming OP statements and placing fake negative rep on my thread, you will become victim not only of botnet but of flood of FAKE negative rep just like the one you place on my profile.
I hate scamming faggots and their supporters.
If u want to call me scammer, bring your proofs here fag or suck my cock and go to hell.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: suchmoon on March 13, 2018, 09:52:54 PM
Proof that I faked escrow you moron?
Are you retarded or something ?
He's blocked off skype I don't have any logs and I don't give a fuck about any logs.
I'm not the one who needs to prove his statements here you retarded scum.
Its not difficult to screen 50 boxes ?
You fucking pathetic autist do you know people needs proofs for their statements to make them true or they are just random trash talk ?
Do you represent the random retarded brain dead positive person here or its just you who don't have brain around ?
Don't call me scammer once again you fucking retarded twat or your trust score soon will be flooded just the same way mine was with fake rep.
If you continue with your trash talk and don't request proofs for the scamming OP statements and placing fake negative rep on my thread, you will become victim not only of botnet but of flood of FAKE negative rep just like the one you place on my profile.
I hate scamming faggots and their supporters.
If u want to call me scammer, bring your proofs here fag or suck my cock and go to hell.

Again, you're barking up the wrong tree. Show me something and I'll reconsider. It should be easy to prove some of your claims but you (1) deleted the e-mail, (2) deleted chat logs, (3) can't take pictures, (4) keep posting threats. Why should I believe you?

If you cool down and want to talk about this - let me know. Bye for now.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 13, 2018, 10:53:29 PM
Proof that I faked escrow you moron?
Are you retarded or something ?
He's blocked off skype I don't have any logs and I don't give a fuck about any logs.
I'm not the one who needs to prove his statements here you retarded scum.
Its not difficult to screen 50 boxes ?
You fucking pathetic autist do you know people needs proofs for their statements to make them true or they are just random trash talk ?
Do you represent the random retarded brain dead positive person here or its just you who don't have brain around ?
Don't call me scammer once again you fucking retarded twat or your trust score soon will be flooded just the same way mine was with fake rep.
If you continue with your trash talk and don't request proofs for the scamming OP statements and placing fake negative rep on my thread, you will become victim not only of botnet but of flood of FAKE negative rep just like the one you place on my profile.
I hate scamming faggots and their supporters.
If u want to call me scammer, bring your proofs here fag or suck my cock and go to hell.

Again, you're barking up the wrong tree. Show me something and I'll reconsider. It should be easy to prove some of your claims but you (1) deleted the e-mail, (2) deleted chat logs, (3) can't take pictures, (4) keep posting threats. Why should I believe you?

If you cool down and want to talk about this - let me know. Bye for now.
Enjoy the 2000+ negative rep incoming you autistic fuck.
The OP claim I scammed or attempted to  you fag, ask him for proof.
I don't need to post anything.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 14, 2018, 09:24:04 AM
Ofc I will ask him for the email, you think I will fall for another scam after the first guy ?
If actually a real escrow contacted me, I would ask who were the guy contacting him about escrow service...
Those stupid questions...
Its also funny how you keep playing "mod" here :D:D:D:D:D
Feel free to ask the OP for PROOFS for his statements not me.
I'm here to say the truth which is: OP is failed and pathetic scammer.
After everything is over, don't forget to tag the right person mr fake mod.
Its funny how also people blaming me for not screening 50+ machines but screening 3-5 like I'm forced to.
I show enough proof I own my shits for sale.
I accept escrow (obviously not spoofed and fake).
And lets see the PROOFS for his statements :D I will have great laugh.
Especially with the part that he claims I agree on any price :D
Also the timing for him would be so auto goal in his ass...
Consider I was the first one who received fake email.
OP, you are pathetic but and funny in the same way.
I feel sorry for you mate.
Also mr fake mod, remove ur fake negative rep on me and feel free to put it if the claims are proof based and right.
Because the 12 hours I said my patience will end is ending.

Post or PM the chat logs. Or have you deleted those too?

I don't really understand most of your rant. I'm not a mod and I can't ban you or delete your posts. You're just saying random things and keep demanding proof. Proof of what? A fake escrow e-mail demanding payment is quite substantial proof of a seller trying to scam a buyer.

If by "screening" you mean photos - it can't be that difficult to take a photo of 50 boxes so I'm not sure why you're bringing this up. What's your reason for not posting those photos? The thing with escrow in such deals is that you can ship a brick and it would still be your word against buyer's word. It would be wise for a reputable seller to put some effort into providing proof of possession, and it's quite typical for scammers to be evasive as you are.
Proof that I faked escrow you moron?
Are you retarded or something ?
He's blocked off skype I don't have any logs and I don't give a fuck about any logs.
I'm not the one who needs to prove his statements here you retarded scum.
Its not difficult to screen 50 boxes ?
You fucking pathetic autist do you know people needs proofs for their statements to make them true or they are just random trash talk ?
Do you represent the random retarded brain dead positive person here or its just you who don't have brain around ?
Don't call me scammer once again you fucking retarded twat or your trust score soon will be flooded just the same way mine was with fake rep.
If you continue with your trash talk and don't request proofs for the scamming OP statements and placing fake negative rep on my thread, you will become victim not only of botnet but of flood of FAKE negative rep just like the one you place on my profile.
I hate scamming faggots and their supporters.
If u want to call me scammer, bring your proofs here fag or suck my cock and go to hell.
you urgently need doctor, police soon will take care of you it's serious crime in big scale I have all proofs I need you will be arrested in no time!!!


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: Danos on March 14, 2018, 10:29:26 AM
All of you are retards
janismm88, post your proofs so i can tag ziku.
suchmoon, don't handle things u can't.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: Danos on March 14, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
janismm88, i hope you realize what proof is.
everyone can type notepad story based on nothing.
im not defending the scammers, i like to tag them but only when there is proofs.
if that guy is scammer, at least show proof and stop writing self made bullshits because he claim you are scammer to.
either post actual  proofs connecting ziku or don't post anything.
you need to provide proof that ziku is the one who send the fake emails in first place.
you need to somehow connect him if u know what you mean.
otherwise your words means nothing.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: monbux on March 14, 2018, 05:07:15 PM
I have little knowledge of what's going on here. Can a competent person with adequate English writing ability please sum it up


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: Danos on March 14, 2018, 07:17:59 PM
I have little knowledge of what's going on here. Can a competent person with adequate English writing ability please sum it up
So who's the actual victim here?
Janis or ziku because i can't see connection with any of them about the fake email


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: suchmoon on March 14, 2018, 09:26:49 PM
All of you are retards
janismm88, post your proofs so i can tag ziku.
suchmoon, don't handle things u can't.

What a coincidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2259350.0  ::)
Edit - one more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.msg30104741#msg30104741
Edit2 - getting better: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2426183

I have little knowledge of what's going on here. Can a competent person with adequate English writing ability please sum it up

janismm88 and ziku65 discussed a deal over skype (ziku65 is selling miners). janismm88 received an e-mail from monbux.bitcointalk @ gmail (screenshot on page 1 of this thread) asking to send money.

ziku65 claimed to have received the same e-mail and accused janimm88 of sending it but ziku65 was not able to produce a copy of that e-mail. ziku65 was also unable to produce chat logs but did not dispute the key elements of janismm88's story, i.e. there was indeed a conversation about a deal etc.

ziku65 is also refusing to post photos of more than one miner (claims to have 50+) and sells via locked self-moderated thread forcing inquiries into skype.

And now enter Danos who was also previously involved in a similar fake escrow debacle.

The rest of the thread is mostly ziku65's profane outbursts.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 14, 2018, 10:13:53 PM
I have little knowledge of what's going on here. Can a competent person with adequate English writing ability please sum it up
So ziku65 "sell" miners in his thread ok so far so good
HE TRIED TO USE YOUR OFFICIAL EMAIL SENDING PHISHING EMAIL SEE ATTACHED AT THE END OF POST

warning signs... one of these can be OK but when you combine all this then does not look good anymore
1) refuse to meetup local pickup
2) refuse send pics of all miners
3) easily agree to any price
4) started to refuse my escrow person ognasty telling BS he have less rep and bigger fees when in fact he have same fees and bigger rep
this was already big warning sign (he don't communicate via email so for this scam it does not work ... :D)
5) asking my email
6) don't let me send PM to escrow
7) conversation with escrow (monbux ) push via email
 finnito grand finale!!!!
comes email which gmail tag as phishing
ale from    monbux.bitcointalk@gmail.com (see in this thread posted screenshot)
"from" is your official email from your escrow thread!!!!
asking to send coins to wallet 1JgEbZ9vqdJvXrduLqrxM6Lq9wpksUvvgf
email is sent to    robertsskrumins85@gmail.com
@ monbux
DID YOU SENT any EMAIL???? TO ADDRESS robertsskrumins85@gmail.com???????????
DO YOU HAVE BITCOIN WALLET 1JgEbZ9vqdJvXrduLqrxM6Lq9wpksUvvgf???????????
Please answer these 2 questions with NO so we can all be sure it's scam
then I don't even need to post skype logs it's clear anyway then for everyone/
Because only person with motive to scam here is ziku65
what motive can I have to scam if I'm buyer offered to local pickup after escrow hold funds???
@Danos use your brains then you don't need proofs!!!!! but if you still want tomorrow I post skype screenshots
I posted gmail screenshot already so it's not only notepad so far.
But when monbux answer no to my questions it's clear anyway for any person who has logical thinking ability!!!!

attached again email text which was sent from Escrow monbux and which is fake:
==========

from:   Monbux Bitcointalk <monbux.bitcointalk@gmail.com>
reply-to:   monbux.bitcointalk@gmail.com
to:   robertsskrumins85@gmail.com
date:   Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 4:20 PM
subject:   Escrow Request
security:   Standard encryption (TLS) Learn more
:   Important according to Google magic.

Hello, thanks for choosing me for your escrow.
I hope you check already my references in my thread -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.0
My email is also noted there.
Escrow service also starts only after the payment is in deposit on escrow (me).
So in first place you need to place your deposit (including my fee).
If u don't like to cover the fee, u can tell the seller/buyer but it should be paid via BTC.
The wallet for BTC deposit is -> 1JgEbZ9vqdJvXrduLqrxM6Lq9wpksUvvgf

Please, reply to this email ONLY after deposit is made because before it the escrow service will not start.
Also reply with the agreement with the seller/buyer so i can request tracking number and so.
Stay safe.
Looking forward to hear you back
Monbux Bitcointalk

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Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

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Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: Danos on March 14, 2018, 11:17:38 PM
All of you are retards
janismm88, post your proofs so i can tag ziku.
suchmoon, don't handle things u can't.

What a coincidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2259350.0  ::)
Edit - one more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.msg30104741#msg30104741

I have little knowledge of what's going on here. Can a competent person with adequate English writing ability please sum it up

janismm88 and ziku65 discussed a deal over skype (ziku65 is selling miners). janismm88 received an e-mail from monbux.bitcointalk @ gmail (screenshot on page 1 of this thread) asking to send money.

ziku65 claimed to have received the same e-mail and accused janimm88 of sending it but ziku65 was not able to produce a copy of that e-mail. ziku65 was also unable to produce chat logs but did not dispute the key elements of janismm88's story, i.e. there was indeed a conversation about a deal etc.

ziku65 is also refusing to post photos of more than one miner (claims to have 50+) and sells via locked self-moderated thread forcing inquiries into skype.

And now enter Danos who was also previously involved in a similar fake escrow debacle.

The rest of the thread is mostly ziku65's profane outbursts.
I'm your nightmare son, same as the scammers nightmare.
I'm everywhere and nowhere.
I don't give a fuck about what scammers saying, same as you.
Don't you even dare to tag me you moron because i will become you real nightmare.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 15, 2018, 12:08:43 AM
this thread and forum is full of retards.
The OP is the only one who had my email you fag.
He is the only one who can send fake email to me consider only he know my email you retarded scum.
You don't realize what evidence means right?
Everyone can setup notepad story based on imagination, what makes it real you moron ?
Everyone can say everything, that does not make it real if there is no evidences you moron.
Also I don't have alts and I don't need any because this forum is full of trash and I don't actually care about it.
I gaved it chance to sell my shits but here is full of scammers and people like you who protect them.
Go kill yourself, no one will see you're missing or sorry for you.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: BTCforJoe on March 15, 2018, 12:23:57 AM
I see enough rules being broken in here for at least one account to be banned. Just sayin'  :P

this thread and forum is full of retards.
The OP is the only one who had my email you fag.
He is the only one who can send fake email to me consider only he know my email you retarded scum.
You don't realize what evidence means right?
Everyone can setup notepad story based on imagination, what makes it real you moron ?
Everyone can say everything, that does not make it real if there is no evidences you moron.
Also I don't have alts and I don't need any because this forum is full of trash and I don't actually care about it.
I gaved it chance to sell my shits but here is full of scammers and people like you who protect them.
Go kill yourself, no one will see you're missing or sorry for you.


You keep saying that nobody knows what "evidence" means, yet you can't produce any, especially when being asked to defend your innocence. That's the reason why you're red-tagged. When someone opens a scam accusation on you, it's your job to prove that you're not a scammer. It's not your job to try and turn it around on the accuser, unless you're able to procure evidence (as you keep bringing up) that they are, in fact, the scammer.

As an outsider with no ties to OP, suchmoon, or you, I will state that you've done very poorly, ziku65, at trying to prove that you are not a scammer. Maybe you should provide this thread with the evidence of your claim that you received the same email. I highly doubt that you deleted it and then emptied your deleted items folder ::)


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 15, 2018, 07:52:34 AM
most important I have no motive to do such BS email to me... what ask send MY money to someone else then WHAT BENEFIT THERE IS FOR ME!!!! If I send $35K to other wallet my money!!! What is my benefit from that case!!!


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 15, 2018, 08:34:30 AM
please red tag this bastard he still pushing his thread up I post here images of skype convo how he ask for my email and most important how he want to avoid my suggested escrow
https://imgur.com/a/DzLTj
here he try to push to use monbux escrow claiming BS that ognasty is bigger fees and less rep when in fact it's total BS ognasty is bigger rep and same fee!!!
https://imgur.com/a/OAAgL
we need to destroy this bastard some noob can easily fall for this BS especially if they use other email provider which does not tag such email as phishing, like gmail did good work.
Because this shit otherwise looks real


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: warningsigns on March 15, 2018, 09:56:50 AM
Just an observer here. As I mentioned countless times on my past posts, escrow is the safest way forward and it is never wise to rely on any information, be they emails or screen shots or any payment information, provided by the person you are transacting with. Always discuss escrow matters with the escrow directly.

Can't comment more, given the toxic and volatile language on this thread.

Let's hope this gets resolved happily but I doubt it. Threads like this tend to end badly.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 15, 2018, 10:57:06 AM
Just an observer here. As I mentioned countless times on my past posts, escrow is the safest way forward and it is never wise to rely on any information, be they emails or screen shots or any payment information, provided by the person you are transacting with. Always discuss escrow matters with the escrow directly.

Can't comment more, given the toxic and volatile language on this thread.

Let's hope this gets resolved happily but I doubt it. Threads like this tend to end badly.
yes ziku65 scammer wanted that it looks like that that email come from escrow and that it looks like we deal with escrow, but in fact it was fake escrow email
I would suggest to better communicate via forum PM directly with escrow.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: janismm88 on March 16, 2018, 10:27:25 AM
this bastard today again push his thread and try to scam people


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: BTCforJoe on March 24, 2018, 11:36:32 PM
this bastard today again push his thread and try to scam people

Direct potential marks to this thread by posting in his.

Hopefully, the red tag deters any potential suckers, but we’ve all seen scams take place repeatedly, even with users who are red-tagged.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: suchmoon on March 25, 2018, 01:04:24 AM
this bastard today again push his thread and try to scam people

Direct potential marks to this thread by posting in his.

Hopefully, the red tag deters any potential suckers, but we’ve all seen scams take place repeatedly, even with users who are red-tagged.

He uses a self-moderated locked thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2864913.0;all

That is a massive red flag by itself so I doubt he will sell anything.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: ziku65 on March 25, 2018, 08:17:08 PM
this thread is still alive and you lost souls didn't realize that OP failed to scam me and open that thread the clear his ass ?
Obviously the timing prove who sending fake emails because he's the only one who had my email morons.
The scammer is still not tagged but the victim yes :D
This forum is so dead.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: hottstepper on April 21, 2018, 02:56:07 PM
ziku also tried to scam me by providing "the best escrow" monbux fake contact.
The chat over skype was very weird as he wanted to do it immediatelly over his prefered Escrow.
When I insisted on using another escrow like OGnasty he wasnt happy, after a while he gave up and stoped communicating at all (skype or forum), and mentioned then in his thread he "waits for a better offer" allthough my offer was great.
I have notified the mods about him a few times. Nothing happend now for weeks.
If the mods are not blocking/banning such a scammer than there is nothing more to say about this forum. Self moderated threads should be forbidden in this section.
Ziku you are retarded and I feel sorry for you.


Title: Re: ziku 65 scammer tried to scam $35000 using fake escrow email
Post by: suchmoon on April 21, 2018, 03:22:27 PM
ziku also tried to scam me by providing "the best escrow" monbux fake contact.
The chat over skype was very weird as he wanted to do it immediatelly over his prefered Escrow.
When I insisted on using another escrow like OGnasty he wasnt happy, after a while he gave up and stoped communicating at all (skype or forum), and mentioned then in his thread he "waits for a better offer" allthough my offer was great.
I have notified the mods about him a few times. Nothing happend now for weeks.
If the mods are not blocking/banning such a scammer than there is nothing more to say about this forum. Self moderated threads should be forbidden in this section.
Ziku you are retarded and I feel sorry for you.

Moderators don't moderate scams. That's what red trust ratings are for.