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Hello all!

I'm putting a 100 BTC bounty for some translation and localization work.

What does it involve ?
 - installing rails on your machine,
 - check that the bitcoin central code works correctly,
 - extract all strings into an english yaml dictionary,
 - translate it into a language of your liking (i'd prefer russian, german, or chinese but the main goal is to make it easily translatable)


Do I need to know Ruby/Rails ?
 - No, however, without knowledge of HTML it'll be hard for you :)

How much work does that represent ?
 - Probably 3 to 4 hours work.

Since code is usually better than explanations I've commited an example (https://github.com/davout/bitcoin-central/commit/e135135f3f7a1062104b7e59ae36701a94559123) which shows how it basically goes.

 & how to test:

1) start your local copy of bitcoin-exchange
2) check that you set your locale to a different lang than english (p.ex. i use 'slovak SK')
3) check all pages if you did not miss any string to extract, if you localize the logo extra kudos

List of pages to check
 - register, login
 - all account menu links (balance, history, transfer money, deposit money)
 - all trade menu links (new order, your orders, order book, trade history)
 - help menu entries ...

=> you're halfway done

4) now perform some actions 2 times (once to see OK result and second time to force FAIL results)
 - create valid trade orders
 - create trade order with amount smaller than 1
 - create dark pool trade order for amount smaller than 3000
 - try to transfer EUR to bitcoin address
 - i must have missed some test cases here ;-)

=> you're almost done

5) be fast & start localizing on the latest code revision

PS the bitcoin donation address in page footer should not be localized ;)

I'm probably free for quality assurance questions and answers and probably testing as well.

Hey! Thanks a lot for the complementary explanations!

For this, just add ?locale=XX at the end of any URL

Or use git rebase :)

LOL

That would be awesome!
I still need to setup the staging enviroment :D

I only know English and computer-languages, but I have filters that "translate" English into various "jive" type "dialects" would they suffice or would it be better to break out (separate) implementing the yaml/translation (localisation) facilities from actually nonmechanically-translating into some actual non-English language? I can grammar and typo fix (proofread) English along the way of course.

-MarkM-

I think chmod755 has started something, it would be nice if he could confirm here

i think the main task is to review the whole code and replace plain english strings with references to the localisation file.
so the fact that you speak only english might be a problem while reviewing your own work (how to distinguish a missed/untreated string from a string localized to english?)

this is the reason why the first translation is most difficult. other people just take the finished string list and translate all the text in one place.

proofreading is easier as well when all there's need to be done is to review a single file with all the text (and maybe compare with the web site in use). but again the localization file is the place where to fix typos, so it should be done first.

p.s. the items to translate are pretty everywhere in the code. proofreading now would be difficult

how to distinguish a missed/untreated string: really really JIVE jive piratejive otherjive superjive

Not to mention sed -e 's/^/I DID THIS ONE ALREADY>/'

-MarkM- (Or 's/^/<blink><green>/" "s/$/</green></blink>/' if its htlm strings...)

wtf?

It is simple to mechanically at computer speed change strings in ways that are very easy for a human looking at the site to see that they have been changed.

They can be made to be green blinking text if they have been successfully converted to the translation system, for example.

That might well be much easier to look at and see it has been done to all the strings than looking at simply translations from one human language to another.

-MarkM-

Sure, but two things, the <blink> tag won't work in most modern browsers, it's definitely not a regexp that'll do the trick.

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Your username is there, so you don't need to sign your posts :)

to to github.com, grab a copy of davout/bicoin-exchange/
and start digging around the .ruby files
 - creating a XY locale file
 - making corresponding changes in the code.

please do that. get your hands dirty with the code and then maybe reflect how could you contribute.
automated capitalizing of text may break the code (you change machine readable instructions, p.ex.)
nor automake it green and blink is an improvement.

do you need an italian translator? if you give me the english strings i'll translate them for a donation (different thing if i have to dirty my hands with code)

That's nice of you!
I'll let you know when the string extraction part is done so you just have to translate some strings in a file.

what about  strings that are not for the user?
like wallet backup / send by mail
that a joe average use will never see

translate those as well?

I could get to the code by the next weekend, but also would translate to Spanish if there are yml files around.

since no one confirmed yet. is it safe to assume that the bounty is open?
it's been a while since i posted here but i see no progress anyway.

I'll be trading overtime for a two days off, could at least branch, start localization of main pages
and see if I'm able to do that.

I would like to contribute a German translation.
Here is my fork with the added base locale: https://github.com/vlaube-de/bitcoin-central/
I haven't really started to extract any strings to yaml files yet, but would be happy to help.

Hi, did not read entire thread, but, is anyone still offering say 100 BTC to provide a polish translation?
Or perhaps less to simply get a text file or .po etc of strings to translate?

How about you read the entire fucking thread ?

I'm monitoring it :D

oh, what a thread revival.

what about extracting the admin part that is not visible to joe user?

what about kind of saucissonage of the problem?
i almost choked when i was reading the code first time
like eating an elephant, should be done in peaces ...

Heh, I took no time to make an admin interface, my admin interface is mysql prompt or rails console prompt :D

Come on...

ok, so how do i get to see the strings like "wallet was emailed" ?

seriously, i took friday and monday off

I can't do the extraction work, but for a 80 BTC I'll translate it to German if you provide the library.

I suck at code but have a translation degree (Spanish) if you still need it done too.

I also can´t code, but I am a native speaker of Portuguese and Spanish, (lived in Chile and Brazil for over 10 years). I am willing to translate the extracted strings for 50 btc.

Is this still open?

judging from the topic not changed to [closed] and all previous posts are from non programmers who did not mentioned words like "i have finished the locale work, pull request ..." i'd say it still is

Hi, I can translate it to russian.

Do not say "I can" but just do it. :)

I think they're saying "I can" as in send me the extraction and I'll do it.

i do not read much russian but i would love to see the extraction of all english texts
replaced with "milion alych ros" on repeat like the quick brown fox
just to make sure all strings were replaced from the english
and they all get translated to russian (should work on the non latin character check)

i'd pay 25 BTC just to see that

Hi

Do you guys need a Hungarian translation too? As it is not a major language and was not mentioned in the original post i thought it would better to ask before I start to work on it.
thanks

I'm sure they would welcome it but the OP hasn't responded for a while. Might have forgotten about us. I sent a PM too and got nothing, maybe give it some time.

Thanks. I'll wait for the green light.

Davout seems to be busy IRL these days. Lets hope he comes online one of these days. I'm trying to make contact with him also.

I have almost finished extracting all strings and doing the german translation.
Follow my progress here (https://github.com/vlaube-de/bitcoin-central).
Davout is following the branch and will pull the changes when I'm done, other translations should wait until this is done.

Have you been able to get into contact with him? I already send him a mail more then a week ago, still no reply from him.

He leaves him messages as comments in the code ;)

I'm pretty much done with the translation now, I messaged davout over Github so he can review the changes.
I will keep you in the loop.

I received the bounty today (thanks again, davout)
I also asked davout to update the thread, maybe he will request additional translations then

If he could update my account on bitcoin-central or even send me an email... that would be nice...

Thanks a lot !

E-mail sent, sorry about the delay, IRL business will probably calm down now, back to the bitcoin forums, yay!

Yes, got it! Davout, maybe discuss the future of BC in a new thread (during our email "discussion").

Ok, someone's already into the german translation. If nothing comes out, I'm ready to jump in.

Italian translation completed and online.

If someone wants to tip me I'll be delighted :-D

Just sent you a little something :)

I've just finished the Dutch translation (http://pastie.org/private/7moyxmd2ndphotqjgy0vfw).

But I'm having some problems starting a local copy of bitcoin-exchange to verify I didn't make any mistakes.
Could someone help me with the MySQL database creation? Not the installation, but the bits after that.

I just put up some install info on the main github project page + wiki, PM me if you need more info.

Don't mean to necro, but...

Would you accept an Esperanto translation? It is a real language, but some people have ideological difficulties with it and don't consider it a language.

Ĉu vi akceptus unu Esperanttradukon? Ĝis unu fakta lingvon, escepte kelkaj homojn havos malideologifacilaj kaj nerigardindie ĝi unu lingvo.

I'll do the Spanish translation.

Done (https://github.com/davout/bitcoin-central/pull/51).

If you're happy with the translation (I really hope so!), please use this address for the bounty: 19Bkr7c2bckYnULF3wh4aTvMY7WSDmMY69

Hey!

thank you for the translations but the bounty was paid a fair while ago (see previous posts and githubs repo frontpage)
Remember it's all open source, feel free to keep contributing, they are very appreciated !

I thought you were still giving some coins for the translation work, although the extraction part is done.

(Also, I read the entire thread but I didn't notice anyone said the mission was over.)

But it's okay, I guess having the code translated in Spanish is good news anyway.

1st post on page 3 :)

Yes, the more languages the better !

When I code I'm able to maintain the french and english localizations, but that means some maintenance work has to be done on other localizations as well since functionality and thus strings get added/removed over time.

When I have some time I might hack a little tool together that would show what parts need to be updated in the non english and french translations.

Anyway, thanks again for the translation!


I personnaly think esperanto's main use are the esperantist conventions.
But if you feel like doing the translation I'll happily pull it in :)