Title: Ban Image Macros Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2011, 11:27:13 AM There's been a spread of image macro replies and terrible memes on this board. As several others have pointed out, there is a general lack of moderation with regards to the forums in the first place, but I think one thing that could go a long way to cleaning up the forum is to develop a hard-line stance on things like image macros.
Image Macros, memes, and inside jokes from 4-chan contribute nothing to any discussion, they worsen the image of bitcoin by making it appear as if the primary userbase is sophomoric teenagers who have nothing to contribute. It's frustrating sifting through crap to find the few useful replies, and nothing is more frustrating than seeing a terrible image with an unfunny joke someone pulled off the internet and just decided they HAD to share with people as a first reply to a well thought out post. Further hardline moderation of people referring to everyone who disagrees with them as trolls would go a long way towards helping clean this place up. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: AllYourBase on July 25, 2011, 01:55:26 PM As several others have pointed out, there is a general lack of moderation with regards to the forums in the first place It's not a general lack of moderation. It is an intentional decision to be very tolerant. If you dislike it, make a competing forum. I'd love for there to be multiple places to discuss bitcoins ;D Why only have vanilla? Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2011, 02:27:32 PM Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2011, 03:33:14 PM Atlas, this is not the thread of mine you should be replying to.
Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: Nefario on July 25, 2011, 03:40:47 PM Policing images would put far too much work on the mods plates.
I think we'll be sticking to our very permissive ways for the near future until it becomes a real problem (i.e. image spamming). Also sometimes I like the images, has anyone looked at the thread watching bitcoin prices, that's full of those images. Some of them are pretty appropriate though. Long story short though if you don't like them then use a filter. Nefario. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2011, 04:24:48 PM Things like the image Atlas posted above contribute nothing to a thread other than to eat bandwidth and pad his post count. I understand you might personally like them, but are you seriously making policy decisions based off of personal taste?
I would also argue that image macros are the very definition of image spamming. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: SgtSpike on July 25, 2011, 04:27:40 PM Things like the image Atlas posted above contribute nothing to a thread other than to eat bandwidth and pad his post count. I understand you might personally like them, but are you seriously making policy decisions based off of personal taste? Some people like images... especially the funny ones... like the one Atlas posted above. I enjoy those sort of things. And I'm not some teenager from 4chan, I just enjoy that type of humor.I would also argue that image macros are the very definition of image spamming. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone else agrees with you. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: enmaku on July 25, 2011, 04:37:43 PM Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: enmaku on July 25, 2011, 05:03:16 PM Would it help if we use the "report to mod" on all the stupid, useless ones? Because that's exactly what the mod staff needs. It occurs to me that a very large amount of stupid useless material hits this forum every day, not just in image macro form - if the mods tried to police stupidity or uselessness we'd need a full time staff of hundreds. Also, such macros reek of 4chan and I'm pretty sure our mods are 'net veterans who know better than to mess with 4chan. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: NghtRppr on July 25, 2011, 05:17:04 PM Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: SgtSpike on July 25, 2011, 05:23:17 PM Would it help if we use the "report to mod" on all the stupid, useless ones? An image can convey a lot more than text can. Especially some good laughs.Really, why do you need an image to make that statement? How is the image even related to the text? Why are you making a post three screens tall to deliver one line of poorly phrased text? Huff, huff, /rant Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: SgtSpike on July 25, 2011, 05:44:39 PM Would it help if we use the "report to mod" on all the stupid, useless ones? An image can convey a lot more than text can. Especially some good laughs.Really, why do you need an image to make that statement? How is the image even related to the text? Why are you making a post three screens tall to deliver one line of poorly phrased text? Huff, huff, /rant If the image is just text, then why not just write the text? Most of these images are not even funny. And none of those texts would be funny without the corresponding images. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2011, 06:25:26 PM Comedy value aside (though personally I find them completely unfunny), if this is going to be a serious place to discuss the future of an entire currency then perhaps we shouldn't be allowing the most vocal segment of the users to look like idiots at passing glance in a place easily accessible to the public.
Macros make you come across like a teenager or an idiot, neither of which is a good face for a public forum linked to Bitcoins. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: enmaku on July 25, 2011, 06:27:09 PM Comedy value aside (though personally I find them completely unfunny), if this is going to be a serious place to discuss the future of an entire currency then perhaps we shouldn't be allowing the most vocal segment of the users to look like idiots at passing glance in a place easily accessible to the public. Macros make you come across like a teenager or an idiot, neither of which is a good face for a public forum linked to Bitcoins. The "serious place" ship has sailed my friend. If you want good info and strong moderation, help us get the StackExchange site started: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/30763/bitcoin-crypto-currency It's stagnating and could use some help and strong promotion. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: TheRandomGuy on July 25, 2011, 06:32:22 PM YOUR ALL CRAZY!!!! :o
Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: enmaku on July 25, 2011, 06:39:33 PM Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2011, 06:40:57 PM Comedy value aside (though personally I find them completely unfunny), if this is going to be a serious place to discuss the future of an entire currency then perhaps we shouldn't be allowing the most vocal segment of the users to look like idiots at passing glance in a place easily accessible to the public. Macros make you come across like a teenager or an idiot, neither of which is a good face for a public forum linked to Bitcoins. The "serious place" ship has sailed my friend. If you want good info and strong moderation, help us get the StackExchange site started: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/30763/bitcoin-crypto-currency It's stagnating and could use some help and strong promotion. Is this your project? And as long as this forum is linked to the official Bitcoin site, the moderation staff should do their best to make it presentable to the general public and the media. That includes not allowing it to become an extension of 4chan. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: enmaku on July 25, 2011, 06:45:16 PM Comedy value aside (though personally I find them completely unfunny), if this is going to be a serious place to discuss the future of an entire currency then perhaps we shouldn't be allowing the most vocal segment of the users to look like idiots at passing glance in a place easily accessible to the public. Macros make you come across like a teenager or an idiot, neither of which is a good face for a public forum linked to Bitcoins. The "serious place" ship has sailed my friend. If you want good info and strong moderation, help us get the StackExchange site started: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/30763/bitcoin-crypto-currency It's stagnating and could use some help and strong promotion. Is this your project? And as long as this forum is linked to the official Bitcoin site, the moderation staff should do their best to make it presentable to the general public and the media. That includes not allowing it to become an extension of 4chan. 1) Not my project, but I think it's worthwhile so I'm trying hard to help it succeed. 2) We were removed from the main bitcoin.org page some time last week, probably for the exact reasons you specify. StackExchange lends itself to an info-centric and heavily moderated format much better than an open forum, hence why I'm hoping it works better than these forums for certain purposes. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: SgtSpike on July 25, 2011, 06:45:48 PM Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: Starlightbreaker on July 25, 2011, 06:45:55 PM Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: erek on July 26, 2011, 01:44:58 AM FTFY Edit: Oh, wait, somebody already pointed that out. I didn't know they did because it was stuck in a fricking picture, which didn't load the first time I loaded the page. Picture Fail, shoulda used text. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: AllYourBase on July 26, 2011, 03:36:35 AM Comedy value aside (though personally I find them completely unfunny), if this is going to be a serious place to discuss the future of an entire currency then perhaps we shouldn't be allowing the most vocal segment of the users to look like idiots at passing glance in a place easily accessible to the public. Macros make you come across like a teenager or an idiot, neither of which is a good face for a public forum linked to Bitcoins. The "serious place" ship has sailed my friend. If you want good info and strong moderation, help us get the StackExchange site started: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/30763/bitcoin-crypto-currency It's stagnating and could use some help and strong promotion. Is this your project? And as long as this forum is linked to the official Bitcoin site, the moderation staff should do their best to make it presentable to the general public and the media. That includes not allowing it to become an extension of 4chan. While I lay no claim to the bitcoin forums as belonging to me, it seems to me that those wishing to disrupt the status quo have the burden of proof to show why their way is better. Personally, I am unconvinced by your points. You claim it is best to appeal to the media, which I hold will never embrace it. You also seem to think it will be accepted by the general public (which due to the media I think is unlikely to be the case). Instead, I would favor targeting people who might actually use it, like pirate bay users, 4chan, <25 yr olds, and other users of peer-to-peer technologies. In my view, they are most likely to embrace bitcoin and bring it to fruition. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: NghtRppr on July 26, 2011, 04:13:21 AM Comedy value aside (though personally I find them completely unfunny), if this is going to be a serious place to discuss the future of an entire currency then perhaps we shouldn't be allowing the most vocal segment of the users to look like idiots at passing glance in a place easily accessible to the public. Macros make you come across like a teenager or an idiot, neither of which is a good face for a public forum linked to Bitcoins. I'd recommend you pull the stick out of your ass. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: RandyFolds on July 26, 2011, 05:09:16 AM Comedy value aside (though personally I find them completely unfunny), if this is going to be a serious place to discuss the future of an entire currency then perhaps we shouldn't be allowing the most vocal segment of the users to look like idiots at passing glance in a place easily accessible to the public. Macros make you come across like a teenager or an idiot, neither of which is a good face for a public forum linked to Bitcoins. Not everyone is blessed with an Asperger's lack-of-a-sense-of-humor. Just rock back and forth and rattle off pi to the thousandth decimal. These mean ole' memes can't hurt you. Seriously...did this fucking troll's nest ever seem like it is a serious place to discuss the future of an entire economy? As someone earlier said, that ship has sailed a long time ago. e: typo Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: theymos on July 26, 2011, 06:34:30 AM If a "serious discussion" section was ever created, image macros (and possibly all embedded images) would be forbidden. However, they are sometimes funny and relevant in less serious threads.
The OP of a topic can forbid image macros in the topic, and off-topic posts should always be removed. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2011, 08:13:14 AM Comedy value aside (though personally I find them completely unfunny), if this is going to be a serious place to discuss the future of an entire currency then perhaps we shouldn't be allowing the most vocal segment of the users to look like idiots at passing glance in a place easily accessible to the public. Macros make you come across like a teenager or an idiot, neither of which is a good face for a public forum linked to Bitcoins. Not everyone is blessed with an Asperger's lack-of-a-sense-of-humor. Just rock back and forth and rattle off pi to the thousandth decimal. These mean ole' memes can't hurt you. Seriously...did this fucking troll's nest ever seem like it is a serious place to discuss the future of an entire economy? As someone earlier said, that ship has sailed a long time ago. e: typo As an investor and a vendor, this exact post is what the problem is. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: dlight on July 26, 2011, 11:06:31 AM Personally, I don't mind the images. Adds a bit of color to the conversation. I'd rather have more users contribute in any possible way, beneficial or not.
To impose any sort of limit on the so called 'quality' of users seems to run against everything bitcoin stands for. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: RandyFolds on July 26, 2011, 05:00:53 PM Comedy value aside (though personally I find them completely unfunny), if this is going to be a serious place to discuss the future of an entire currency then perhaps we shouldn't be allowing the most vocal segment of the users to look like idiots at passing glance in a place easily accessible to the public. Macros make you come across like a teenager or an idiot, neither of which is a good face for a public forum linked to Bitcoins. Not everyone is blessed with an Asperger's lack-of-a-sense-of-humor. Just rock back and forth and rattle off pi to the thousandth decimal. These mean ole' memes can't hurt you. Seriously...did this fucking troll's nest ever seem like it is a serious place to discuss the future of an entire economy? As someone earlier said, that ship has sailed a long time ago. e: typo As a tool, this exact post is what the problem is. Alright, Chief Have-no-fun. Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: Djao on July 26, 2011, 05:54:18 PM there you go: http://lynx.browser.org/
Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: jackjack on July 26, 2011, 08:26:08 PM There's one thing I agree with them (I mean the bitcoin-is-serious-business guys)
Some images don't have to be sooooooooooooooooo huge Going to imageshack.us and have a smaller one takes about 30 seconds Title: Re: Ban Image Macros Post by: TheGer on July 31, 2011, 06:00:13 AM Maybe we could make a sub-forum just for this guy and all the robots that post here. We could even shift it .5 seconds into the past so it's Fun Sucking Black Holeness doesn't destroy our reality.
There's been a spread of image macro replies and terrible memes on this board. As several others have pointed out, there is a general lack of moderation with regards to the forums in the first place, but I think one thing that could go a long way to cleaning up the forum is to develop a hard-line stance on things like image macros. Image Macros, memes, and inside jokes from 4-chan contribute nothing to any discussion, they worsen the image of bitcoin by making it appear as if the primary userbase is sophomoric teenagers who have nothing to contribute. It's frustrating sifting through crap to find the few useful replies, and nothing is more frustrating than seeing a terrible image with an unfunny joke someone pulled off the internet and just decided they HAD to share with people as a first reply to a well thought out post. Further hardline moderation of people referring to everyone who disagrees with them as trolls would go a long way towards helping clean this place up. |