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I'm gonna make another ridiculous prediction and say that in 2014, Bitcoin will reach parity [and surpass] the price of actual, real GOLD.

We're at $180 right now on Bitcoin, after a huge ~$40 spike in just one week.  Gold is at roughly $1350.


If Bitcoin gets that ETF license, the way I'm certain they will, then surpassing Gold will be a sure thing, if not, then it may take an extra year to do it.  I am sticking to my Public ETF prediction and I'm now adding the Gold Parity prediction to happen in the next year.

The government, the banks and most of all, millions of blind, mindless sheeple will make this prediction come true.


Let the countdown begin!


Edit:  Today, 11/13/2013, the Bitcoin price hit $400.  Given it has tripled on little news I now conclude that the illiquid nature of the Bitcoin markets is much worse than I initially thought.  Therefore, I now believe that Bitcoin will surpass $5,000 next year, after it gets the ETF license, eclipsing the price of gold by a factor of 4.

One caveat: I still expect some negative event to take place [very soon:  30-60 days] which will give rise to another crypto coin which will take the place of Bitcoin [as a global currency].  If that happens then the above scenario would still hold true for that new replacement crypto coin, which I personally believe to be ixCoin.

You remind me of the baby in the e-trade commercial

Usually that is followed by a long answer. :)

At least that baby was investing.  You're clueless to even the meaning of the word.  Quick, follow the sheep, put everything in Litecoin.  Haven't you heard, that's the silver of Cryptos.  lol

Get a life dude  - not in a million years BTC or any other crypto will match gold`s REAL value (that is more than worthless $ ). The chinese and indians for example are buying GOLD not BTC, so do the central banks. BTC is just another distraction ..enjoy.

  We`ll see...we`ll see. Time will tell  ;)

Well, there is a bit of a difference.  I haven't seen any gold ATM's (maybe they exist) and I have not ever witnessed someone making a purchase at a restaurant using gold.

Bicoin, yes on both counts.

And when nearly every cafe, bar, grocery store, and online website is accepting bitcoin what will happen to the value of bitcoin?

Will they be accepting gold too?  Maybe.

I dunno.  Just putting it out there for consideration.

Gold ATM - there you go: http://www.gold-to-go.com/en/locations/atm-locations/
You can use gold and silver instead of $ in Utah for example: http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/29/news/economy/utah_gold_currency/

 Gold has been around for thousand of years; can you say the same for cryptos? will one of those in existence today be alive in 100 years ? No to mention that precious metal prices are getting hammered every day meaning that 1350 it`s not the real price. But it`s good for wealth transfer from Western countries to Asia.
  So..yeah, the prediction is ridiculous  :D

Hahahhahaaaa.

Man, that had me laughing really hard.

If you ever wanna render me speechless just insult me with a really funny visual.  Thanks, bro!

But my prediction stands, no less.

BTC, like all fiat currencies, is worthless [with ZERO intrinsic value] and ridiculous to ever even own long term, and it's not even money since the definition of money includes the characteristic to store value which no fiat currency has ever done, over the long run EVER!  

All fiat currencies eventually go to ZERO!

I didn't say it was a good idea or even right, I simply stated what would happen and not only will BTC match GOLD, but it will surpass it, by far..

And it will happen in the next 12-24 months.

This would not be possible without governments, banks, multinationals and of course, the ones who really make such unreal things possible, billions of really, incredibly stupid people who have no idea what's going on - the masses which are about to be enslaved by their very decentralized savior.  Hahahaa.  

Watch as the sheep run into the arms of their very executioner.  lol

In the long run all fiats go to zero, this is a historic fact, and gold and silver stand alone but over the period of a few years or even decades, the masses can be made to think a pile of shit in the rain is worth more than gold and that's what's happening here.

I don't agree with it but Bitcoin et al can't be stopped, too many billions of stupid people in the way, so then why not get on the side of the manipulators (govts, banks, MNCs, etc.)  and make some real money.

Digital "money" will replace all the top global paper fiats [in the next few years] and so the masses must be fooled into thinking it's really valuable and you will witness the masses with your own eyes, dumping their real gold and silver for a worthless digital fiat like Bitcoin or whatever pops up alongside it.

And you heard it here first so get on the right side of the trade and make millions of very real [gold] dollars.

You're missing the point.  Actually, you're missing absolutely everything that I'm trying to say and everything that is really happening around the world and with these manipulated Cryptos.

  Well, after this post I can clearly see where you`re standing and what are your intentions. So, I feel that I must apologize for being rude with you sometimes :D  - not that I totally agree with your predictions (nobody gets it right all the time).

Not ganna happen, what if the fund wallet got hacked...

No worries, frate!

What if the fund wallet got hacked?

Seriously?

So one technical difficulty is gonna hold up world changing progress and ground breaking innovation? 

Let me guess, you have a college degree.

for the very first time I 100% agree with you Vlad2Vlad  :o your predictions are ridiculous  ;D

Lol, you actually surprised me until I read the second half.

Women!

Our little Kelsey needs to watch herself, Mullick and his Ban Hammer aren't here to save her. Ha!

You're Australian?   Oh man, that explains a lot.  Stubbornest women on earth - as bad as Jewish and European women.

If you're anything under like 90 years old, then that accent just got me sprung.  Well, you'd have to look a bit fine as well, but this is the internets - where lies are seen as noble.  Biggest reason I clash with a lot of people on here but those who can be honest, no matter how much they may first hate me, I make them my best of friends.  

For honesty and integrity in today's world, who can find?


P.S. - Kelsey, it's nothing to buy just 5,000 ixCoins.  Do it in case I'm not as crazy as you think.  I'd offer you half off as I've done that with a couple other people, just to help, but I'm a little broke and you've got a nice banking job so you'll be fine.  

Seriously, it's not a lot to risk, don't be stubborn.  

Do what I tell you, woman!  Ha!

I'm afraid it isn't so ridiculous. I can imagine a BTC bubble big enough tho reach or surpass gold prices. Just take a look at the predictions about 2014 BTC prices in the speculation topics. $1000 actually isn't to far from the current gold prices.
BTW I'd be more than happy to dump my bitcoins for some real shiny 1oz gold coins on a 1:1 exchange rate.

Hold off a little longer and you'll get a lot more than a 1:1 exchange. It's all about knowing when to sell, cause this fiat, like all fiats, will turn to worthless shit when the clock strikes midnight.

Add this to my Bitcoin ETF conspiracy theory.  This 10101011000 machine code numbering system which appears on the Bitcoin is now also on the new $100 bill.

I realize they're writing 100 as in $100 but if you look closely, they cleverly combined some of these 100's to actually make it look like Machine Code, or Bitcoin.  This is nothing more than another step in brainwashing the muppets into embracing Bitcoin and digital money.

This numbering scheme is both, on the front and back of the new $100 bill.

Call me crazy but there's just so many of these coincidences popping up everywhere I look.  Like I've been saying, the govt and banks are in on this Crypto Craze and that ETF is a done deal.





https://i.imgur.com/AIVhhyV.jpg?1




And here on the back side:




https://i.imgur.com/OrzHTx5.jpg?1

I don't think thats made to look binary.

On you're ETF news though... http://majesti.co/cryptonerd/winklevoss-bitcoin-trust-on-bloomberg-w-screenshot/

Wow man, that's a huge hint.  Great find.  Thanks!

its very possible for btc to surpass gold next year. especially while witnessing $ collapse. afterall we price gold in ounces - why ounces and not grams. surely we long passed 1gr price of about $40.

I gotta put this on here in case some don't click on that link.  This is a great find and it's right on topic.



Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust on Bloomberg w/ Screenshot!

October 23, 2013 BTC, Crypto News, TradingCryptoNerd

This changes everything. From what we gather the, recently announced ETF is in the approval process, and Bloomberg is just waiting for the go ahead. It seems the software is in place, so how far off is this fund, really? It could be sooner than any of us imagined.

The bigger question yet though, is what does this mean for the price of Bitcoin now?



https://i.imgur.com/8ChbfKe.jpg?1
Bloomberg Screenshot - Bitcoin ETF ready for trading:  Awating final Approval!

http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_09_29/A-Bitcoin-ETF-will-be-launched-soon-6917/

Right, that's part of my theory.

ETF approvals take many months of research, paperwork and approval.  It's a very long process.

For example, the Diamond ETF application, a real asset and a real commodity, with hundreds of billion behind it and many powerful rich people, has now been in process, waiting for the EFF approval for roughly 3 years.

So then, if I'm right and the Bitcoin approval comes in a matter of months would you all agree this was nothing but a circus act and they determined way ahead of time that Bitcoin would get the ETF?

Cause if I'm proved correct, the steeple masses will then say:  "oh, what's the big deal, they give ETF licenses to most applicants."

And I'm just really tired of explaining the obvious to so many very stupid people.  

Cause let's remember, almost all pros have been saying all this time that there is no way Bitcoin will even get an ETF, so if not only will they get the ETF but they get it in record time, then clearly the banks and govt were totally behind Bitcoin and digital money just as I've theorized.  

I hope if this does happen in the next 30-60 days the way I have now upped my timeline, that people will finally see what's going on.

And not for the reason of stopping it - cause that's impossible at this point, but to at least benefit as much from it as possible so when the latter phase of the plan is enacted [which involves massive pain, suffering and impoverishment] that more people will stand a better chance, having made money on Bitcoin and a few other alt coins.

Let me ask this:  how many people here are holding some significant ixCoin positions?

And by that I mean just 2,000 ixCoins [or more].

Cause I find it so odd that almost no-one is holding ixCoin given it's one of the original 5 alt coins launched and it's fully intact, merge mined, has never died and has so many bizarre similarities to Bitcoin.  Very strange indeed. I've seen many people accumulate total ShitCoins but almost ZERO people accumulate ixCoin which is not any less [or any more] shitty than 99% of the alts out there.

ixCoin is below 1 penny - USD.  We're talking very little money so please don't call me a pumper.

If you all thought some coin had great potential wouldn't you try to tell others?  That's all I'm doing and over the last 6 moths, as I've been accumulating 2% if ixCoin, I have [at times] paid significantly more for my ixCoins all because I couldn't keep my mouth shut.

So if anything, I have gained gained nothing and have lost considerable Bitcoins via higher ixCoin prices, all cause I had to give what I felt was sound investment advice.

But I am not 99% sure about ixCoin as I am about a Bitcoin ETF (I feel about 65% right), so please, I don't want to see anyone lose a ton of money.  If I am right about ixCoin then 2,000 coins would be enough for most people here to make a real difference in their lives.  

So I hope people diversify and include a couple thousand ixCoins in your portfolio.  

Easy bro, I'm not a shill. I swear it.

IxCoin is one of my top convictions.  How can I not mention it if it comes up and I feel it's relevant.

If you think I have sold even 1 of my ixCoins during the huge triple last month I will gladly post a screenshot to show that I kept buying and buying even at those crazy highs.  I have no conviction about any coin like I do about ixCoin - not even Bitcoin and while it may seem crazy to most, err, ok, to all, I constantly look for reasons to dump it and the more I look around the more I believe something big will happen and then I just end up buying even more.

I'm getting sick of it - I said I would stop at 1% and now I'm over 2%.  Over 55 BTC invested and I really wanna stop cause I have more than enough in the event I am right.  But the only way I can stop is if I stop researching it.  

At any rate - do you currently own a couple thousand ixCoins? Seriously, what's a few Litecoins for a couple thousand ixCoins?  Do it for diversity's sake if not any other reason.  It's not a lot to risk blindly - just to do it.

P.S. - I have offered multiple people free ixCoins just to help them, on the condition they will not sell them until it gets to at least $3.  Both called me crazy and turned down my offer.  lol.

People hate ixCoin so much that they won't even take it for free - and I offered each person 2,500 ixCoins so it was a decent amount.  Can you believe this?  That's how bad ixCoin is perceived which doesn't add up either as there are much shittier coins around and plenty of people, mine, buy and hoard, but not ixCoin.

But this proves I am genuinely trying to help people - a pumper wouldn't just give away coins he paid hard earned BTC for.  Sorry, I cannot make that offer to everyone - most can easily afford a couple thousand ixCoins at less than 1 penny each.

Good luck!

so you recon all the dollars got some sort of code in them that assignes them to an altcoin so once the debt dollar crashes they have some sort of a backup. and bitcoin is just trial and error experiment from misterious satoshi nakamuto who decided to use sha code in particular just so n sa can shut it down any time they wish and proclaim IXC as a new reserve currency which will cost billions overnight.
well what will i say to this: "bravo rockefellers! well executed! clap clap".

- actually i might be complitely mad by now but im sort of convinced! hahah!.

I think Vlad just means the 1's and 0's on the notes are meant for people to become accustomed to the idea of a computerised currency as being normal. You know, just as facebook now decided it's fine to show beheadings...

That's exactly what I meant.  I thought it was obvious.  But if these 1's and 0's have been on bills for a decade or more then I doubt there's a connection.  I thought It was something new(ish) as I've never noticed them before.

I would be interested to know when those first appeared on our paper money.

I also didn't know Facebook started showing beheadings.  I said many years ago that public executions would eventually become part of our society, a society of death.  It has to happen, it will happen.

No, that's way more complex than I even imagined.

I just meant that if there is a connection it's a good way for people to start visually accepting something that looks like that, which is Bitcoin and/or digital money.  People don't realize how effective and powerfully visual aides are at preparing one, subconsciously, for something.  This is what brainwashing is.

What first appeared like an insane prediction just 2 weeks ago all of a sudden seems not just possible but probable.

Amazing what can happen in just a 2 week period.

You guys just wait for next year and the rest of my predictions should also prove true:  From the Bitcoin ETF to Bitcoin being more valuable than gold to the rise of another major crypto coin [which should be ixCoin].

Look at Bitcoin go over $400, and with little news.

So I have to make a small adjustment to my crazy theory.

When Bitcoin gets the ETF license, it will not be worth as much as gold, it will be worth at least 4 times what gold is worth and it will do it all by end of next year.

Yeah, that puts Bitcoin at $5,000+ next year.

Don't call me crazy, I'm just telling you what's gonna happen.  This is even crazier than my crazy.

Crazy!

There is $7 trillion worth of gold in the world.

1% of $7 trillion is $70 billion.

If Bitcoin was worth 1% of all gold in the world...

Bitcoin price will be $6,000.

I could easily see it surpassing the gold price to most fiat , but that will also have certain negative effects as well .

Depending on at to the % at which it surpassed.

As to dynamic market effects will probably occur,  as it approaches the spot price exuberance will push it as a target , as the information matket " relates" to gold BTC.

Then after it hits gold the resulting explosion of coverage and information that connects the two BTC- gold , will cause a new lot of "investors" to dive in,

This will push the price past gold spot to USD , then as those new "investors" get fucked similar to the last investors at 260, then a period of stagnation then an update in information.  

The results of which will be a resting at a little below gold perhaps , but above the current price.

Right, they're claiming around 162,000 tons I believe of gold in the world but that's a lie.  If you listen to central bank insiders, they say our Hawaii gold deposits alone are 160,000 tons which is the supposed total for the entire planet.

But point taken, the market potential is enormous and if Bitcoin becomes a global currency it will surpass probably even $100,000 before the govt gets hold of it and dilutes it to hell like all other fiats.

My $5,000 price prediction is simply on the ETF event due to the illiquid nature of Bitcoin combined with the highly liquid nature of an ETF.

But I still believe some event will happen very soon which will crash Bitcoin and another crypto coin will rise up in its place and I believe that coin to be ixCoin.

I know, I know...I'm crazy.  I've heard it for nearly 6 months now.  lol.

But if it makes sense then I'm gonna stand behind it until it no longer makes sense and right now it makes perfect sense.

I agree.  

Human stupidity and herd mentality:  call it a scam at $68 and run away from it.  Call it the next best thing and mortgage your house to buy it AFTER it surpasses $1,000.

People....too predictable.  This is the greatest tool of the powers that be.

Bitcoin at over $800 on Mt. Gox.

Just 3 weeks ago I said Bitcoin will be equal to Gold which is $1300 and I was called insane.


Who's insane now?

Lol.

Now I'm saying they're gonna kill Bitcoin and kick-start a new crypto so the bankers and govt can get in on the ground floor.

And that coin will be ixCoin.

I know, that's insane.  lol.

Gulp, that is quite the prediction by the OP.  I'm shocked that you'd come up with such a bold guess that seems very likely to me at this point.

Bravo, I'll be sure to follow this thread and see what else you and other like minded individuals come up with.  :o

iXCoin will become the world currency and after a multi year battle Bitcoin will die and be replaced by iXCoin.

It's not too late to buy some iXcoin. Like I told everyone when it was half a penny - just buy $50 worth and don't sell it cause if I'm right you'll make millions from near nothing.

I still expect iXcoin to reach ~$10 in the next ~2 months. I said 90 days last month before I went on vacation.

Disclosure:  I own 3% of ixCoin for which I paid 65 Bitcoins at a time when everyone was calling me insane and mocking me for buying a dead ScamCoin.  Rest assured, I am not pumping ixCoin as I have strong convictions and will not sell anything until my prediction fully materialize.  

While on vacation my $8,000 investment in IXC was worth at one point $300,000 yet I didn't even take out lunch money.  This is why few will make millions:  lack of convictions.  This is an all or nothing deal for me and so far all my theories and predictions have come true so I am sticking to my IXC call as well.

Good luck and Godspeed!