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Case#18 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg37392883#msg37392883)
dance2009 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=932065), winterrose (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=832906), Big Game (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=961622) and valtin  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=819267)

Case#17 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg36795713#msg36795713)
xtraelv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897509) and Lafu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=805820)

Case#16 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg35392597#msg35392597)
musdafakfl (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1725368), macit800 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1300741), BitcoinTurk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511692), rasputincoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973393), onurgozupek (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=948010), mhanbostanci (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=434984), saulzaents (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944905), ozma03  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1198741), mstfprcn (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=915311), Kalemder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487377), krhnrhn (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=979690), HakanYAZICI  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=972035) and srmecdes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1199648)

Case#15 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg35150484#msg35150484)
Zoom2k (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1158651), opium (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939701), Kuala Lumpur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1167409)

Case#14 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg34833755#msg34833755)
Yet to be completed. Too big network of merit abuser. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg35076393#msg35076393)

Case#13 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg34833755#msg34833755)
laogeyi123 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1957544), NeverArgueWithWF (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1825808), urz42409966 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1886502), huweiooo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1957573), shixd8899  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1289332) | Added on 16thApril: bluesky338 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1890612)

Case#12 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg33987593#msg33987593)
mankeen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=680704), CryptoNine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1110568), Mr.Coinzer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=965370), SaaM78 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1146390)

Case#11 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg33594256#msg33594256)
xbiv2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1028652), JNiks_ZLisa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035718)

Case#10 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg33201232#msg33201232)
trumpman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947421), Flodner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1044164)

Case#9 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg33148846#msg33148846)
big.pharaoh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1668614), mohamed reda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806787), LBX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=842041), hamade (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1123153)

Case#8 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg33123685#msg33123685)
NetFreak199 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=819793), visionary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=58779), chixka000 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=821846), identifyuser (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=227450), alexberezov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1066970), Rexxxem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=470139), jk9694 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=329576), dumbtool45 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=965234), number37 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=123202), blo8i  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=107826)

Case#7 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg33049331#msg33049331)
StallionMosquito (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=878336) - Sr. Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpbri), zohaibh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=765739) - Full Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpm4x), imrobo2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1062185) - Full Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpw5k)
network with => gmughals (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1625411) - Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpe95), ateebshaikh290 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1445276) - Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpen5), cheechu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1453078) - Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpl5d)

Case#6 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg33040031#msg33040031)
Naitik (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1186891) and jerry29@ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1515739)

Case#5 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg33010964#msg33010964)
Rumhurius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=316540) and striker7334 2.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=377879)

Case#4 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg32909007#msg32909007)
Morphling (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1051747) and yillusion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1079092)

Case#3 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg32839313#msg32839313)
A. mrhelpful (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128986) is confused?
B. Kousei23 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=928416)'s possible connection with plucking23 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1007700), Bruce1614 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1138300), loading... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=965531), alexsandria (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=918943), Ashong Salonga (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=916400)
And relation between Bruce1614 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1138300) and kirito1614 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1120355)

Case#2 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg32776885#msg32776885)
allowance1219 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1205985), pigheadbig (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=217924), gomei (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=297051) and choubao0514 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1206705)
with colacat1111 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1206033), helloge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102339), juicejoyce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=114902) and doudou1110 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1206752)

Case#1 Click to open (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg34788725#msg34788725)
Joe-Niner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1147769), BarkingHawk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1115343) and SparkyU (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=729995)

Well, not surprising imo. All those systems are gonna be gamed.

Have to say I like the underlying idea, to increase quality content/reduce spam. But this behaviour you documented is exactly what I would expect as a result, and that is probably just the tip of the iceberg.

In reality it will just reinforce older privileges, lead to farming like that, and make bitcointalk less atractive for new users.

Every system has a loophole. Really hard to get this merits as people sparsely send them to deserving posts. Most will just send it to someone they know as it is very limited.

Case#2

allowance1219 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1205985), pigheadbig (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=217924), gomei (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=297051) and choubao0514 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1206705)
with colacat1111 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1206033), helloge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102339), juicejoyce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=114902) and doudou1110 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1206752)


allowance1219's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/itxdb9)

Received	User	Sent
10	gomei	Null
10	gomei	Null
1	colacat1111	Null
Null	choubao0514	1
5	wenzuo	Null
30	pigheadbig	Null

Clearly allowance1219 has some connection with gomei and pigheadbig Let's take wenzuo and colacat1111 out of the equation.

gomei's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/itxo30)

Received	User	Sent
Null	allowance1219	10
Null	allowance1219	10

Shall I assume gomei sold (or something fishy) merits to allowance1219?

pigheadbig's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/itxhb4)

Received	User	Sent
Null	allowance1219	30
Null	choubao0514	30

Is pigheadbig a fool or I assume he sold (or something fishy again) merits to allowance1219 and choubao0514?

choubao0514's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/itxjm5)

Received	User	Sent
1	allowance1219	Null
30	pigheadbig	Null

I guess choubao0514 paid (must be something again) pigheadbig.


In summary allowance1219 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1205985) is trading (buying I guess) merits from gomei (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=297051) and pigheadbig (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=217924). pigheadbig again is also trading merits with choubao0514 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1206705).

These users need to be checked by the moderators/admin.

Note: All these merit exchanges happened on this ANN thread ([ANN][XAS] Asch | Decentralized Application Platform Based on Side-chain) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2176697.0) by the way

Update/Edit:
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helloge, colacat1111 joins allowance1219 is that a co-incident?

allowance1219 receives  40 merits from from helloge (Today 21st March at 09:45:00 AM) (https://prnt.sc/iu8k3s) then sends 48 to colacat1111 (Today 21st March at 03:58:32 PM) (https://prnt.sc/iu8jtd)
helloge sends 15 to colacat1111 (Today 21st March at 04:07:24 PM) (https://prnt.sc/iu8lgr)
The timing and given merits somehow proves the connection

Check merit received summary for colacat1111 today (https://prnt.sc/iu8p0d) I am finding it hard to take juicejoyce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=114902) out of the equation too.

In this case with allowance1219, gomei and pigheadbig; I think adding colacat1111 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1206033), helloge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102339) worth considering as abuser. juicejoyce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=114902) also needs to be investigated.

Oh by the way doudou1110 (https://prnt.sc/iu8tef) became a member from the 10 merits received from juicejoyce.
Fishy thing is doudou1110 received the exact amount of merit that needed to be member from juicejoyce. (https://prnt.sc/iu8v7g)

Why not we add doudou1110 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1206752) on our investigation too?

Exchange of merit doesn't really prove anything, especially if the amount of merits is small. Theymos has stated in the past that this would constitute rounding error in the overall scheme of things. It would anyway cease once the smerit handed out to accounts during the roll out of the merit system dries up.

I appreciate your efforts but there is a thread for this stuff: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.160 You can post it there with the same format or just link this thread there. However not much will happen, they are usually not tagged or anything but I will give you some merit for your effort.

Over time, the cycle of merit exchanges from senders to receivers and back will come to the end because they will finally lose all of their sMerits. And after that point, if they can not contribute to the forum, they will hardly earn more merits. Therefore, they won't have more sMerits to exchange each other.

I tagged the first two of those idiots, who are quite obviously engaged in merit abuse.  Both of them have only written one-line shitposts exclusively, which indicates to me that they're on bitcointalk for the money, and not for the community, knowledge dissemination, discussion, or any other good reason.

The third one, SparkyU, I'm not so sure about--and my feedback doesn't carry weight anyway.

OP, I do appreciate you taking the time to point out merit abusers, and yeah I think everyone is aware at this point that there's gaming of the system going on.  That was to be expected on a forum where scamming isn't banned, trust abuse is rampant, people think it's just peachy that one individual can take 2 sides of a 3-sided escrow deal, and account sellers thrive.  But let's knock 'em down one by one.  Thanks for identifying these guys.

I added some edited section...

The farming will stop once we the users will start finding (adds little help to the moderators) who they are. I'm not if these accounts will be banned or what will be their consequences but whatever (may be putting them into your ignore list or giving them red trust with the evidence of their abusive connection, the best is only admin or moderators can confirm or warn their activities with 100% confidence since they will have all logs to prove them guilty) it is, at-least people will know that these account holders are abusive and dangerous for the community.

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- Small means 1? 2? or? Accounts on original post are larger in numbers.



- It really is a poor hope where we can do something about it to fix the issue. Appreciate your feedback.

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When I was writing the original post I really looked for some topics which is already talking about the same. Then again I though I may not find the same format that I feel comfortable. So I decided to create a new post for it. Thanks for the credit for my effort.
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- How do you do it? Can someone else like me can tag them as well?


Thank you and yes this is exactly what I am trying to achieve from this post.

There another thread about this already but the OP killyou* seems to have abandoned it and nobody from DT is tagging anyone. I've had more success creating an individual thread on Reputation board when I find a really bad one like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3052556.0

If you're looking for clues Kousei23 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=928416) is worth a look at.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.msg32346378#msg32346378

But still they have earned a merit point, even though it has lost all smerit but they have made something bad thing and made spam on many threads. Perhaps taking direct action by reporting the person can be an option, especially if we have evidence and it is strong enough to be able to say that the person is on the path of spammers and scammers. As time goes by, there must be improvements in various systems in this forum, Merit has made things a lot better. Now we must be able to maintain it and continue to try to update the system in order to improve things that already existed before.

People who do farming are those who are not confident in ability and they think that it is the best way, but in reality not at all !!

I would like to seek attention of Bardman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg32785673#msg32785673), The Pharmacist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg32803149#msg32803149) and iqlimasyadiqa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg32822731#msg32822731) on how to tag someone? -since you guys are on the same page like me and have very high rank on the forum.


If I can do it by myself having the current rank I have then I can save a lot of works except waiting for someone else come to see the post and do the tagging job.


This makes a lot of sense
and thank you TheQuin for the clue (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg32815493#msg32815493), I will try to find fishy facts if there is any.

PS: I found more users with suspicious merit exchanges on Case#2 and added them on the Update/Edit section (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg32776885#msg32776885)

Update: Ok I see what The Pharmacist meant when he said
Sending neg trust with the ref seems a great way to tag abusers.

Everyone can leave trust feedback, just click on the trust link on their profile page. The difference is that it will not be visible by default. Someone has to go to Untrusted feedback and click 'show ratings' to see it if you are not on their trust network. The people on Default Trust's rating are seen by everyone unless they have been excluded from someone's trust network.

This thread explains it further: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0

Case#3

A. mrhelpful (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128986) is confused?


mrhelpful's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/iuba4v)

Received	User	Sent
2	Sandal_Hat	Null
Null	jenia1	10
Null	allinvain	50

What would you say if someone send you 50 merits for this...

I am really not sure what motive does mrhelpful thinks of when he sent 50 to allinvain and 10 jenia1?

The action of sending 50 merits to allinvain  from mrhelpful (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128986) really raise question to me.

Perhaps mrhelpful will have a valid answer. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3165349.msg32796003#msg32796003) Is he/she now on the top of  allinvain's prioritizing customers list?



B. Kousei23 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=928416)'s possible connection with plucking23 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1007700), Bruce1614 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1138300), loading... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=965531), alexsandria (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=918943), Ashong Salonga (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=916400)
And relation between Bruce1614 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1138300) and kirito1614 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1120355)
Keep the timing of the received merits before we start. (https://prnt.sc/iubtgm) and because of that 5 merits sent from Sanugarid also counts. (https://prnt.sc/iubv1y)


Kousei23's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/iubxj6)

Received - Time	User	Sent
27 - March 13, 2018, 09:56:59 PM	Ashong Salonga	Null
28 - March 13, 2018, 10:00:27 PM	alexsandria	Null
5 - March 14, 2018, 07:59:40 PM	Sanugarid	Null
1 - March 14, 2018, 08:01:08 PM	plucking23	50
24 - March 14, 2018, 08:02:07 PM	loading...	Null
Null	Bruce1614	10

Can you see in-between Ashong Salonga and alexsandria the receiving time difference is around only 4 minutes?! If this was from same post then we would have less doubt then we have since the merits received from two entirely different posts!!!

Again on 14th March the total timestamp for the first merit (5) and the last merit (24) is around 3 minutes from Sanugarid, plucking23 and loading...!!! This one might be from a same post since it has been marked as "Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored" however I wonder on 14the the 3 users with Kousei23 and on 13th the two users with Kousei23 had a round table meeting? ::) And since then nothing at all!!!

Ok, I guess Sanugarid, plucking23, loading..., Ashong Salonga and alexsandria wanted to trap Kousei23 but hey why Kousei23 sent 50 (!!!) to plucking23?

Oh snap!!! Looks like Kousei23 and plucking23 are alt to each others!!! 23? ;D

plucking23's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/iucamv)

Received	User	Sent
50	Kousei23	1

Obviously Kousei23 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=928416) and plucking23 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1007700) are alts to each others and exchanging merits with each others violates the forum rules which leads to receiving negative feedback (http://archive.is/Q5GRQ#selection-1023.0-1029.105)

Sending merits on the same time from Ashong Salonga (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=916400), alexsandria (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=918943), Sanugarid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=791625) and loading... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=965531) to Kousei23 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=928416) seems to be a part of a plan.



Let's talk about Bruce1614 received 10 from Kousei23

Bruce1614's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/iucmd2)

Received - Time	User	Sent
10 - March 19, 2018, 03:14:34 PM	Kousei23	Null
5 - March 19, 2018, 03:17:36 PM	kirito1614	7

Ops!!! Again Looks like Bruce1614 and kirito1614 are alt to each others!!! 1614? ;D

10 and 5 merits brings 7.5 sMertis.
Send 7 sMerits to kirito1614 LOL. Thanks Kousei23 for helping with 10 merits  :P

Ok, Obviously Bruce1614 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1138300) and kirito1614 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1120355) are alts to each others and exchanging merits with each others violates the forum rules which leads to receiving negative feedback (http://archive.is/Q5GRQ#selection-1023.0-1029.105)

I also created a topic about Merit farmer and alt account in Reputation but seem like DT member don't even want to spend few minutes to take a look at :).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3162720.0

Need someone to tag all these alt accounts :)

Not only DT members will read this post. This is the second thread about merit abusing cases which I found out, but I still did not understand one thing here: what is going to be with all of those users who's crime became proved?

Case#4

Morphling (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1051747) and yillusion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1079092)


Morphling's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/iuuay6)

Received - Time	User	Sent
5 - Today at 05:14:49 PM	ethbringer	Null
9+2 - Today at 05:22:36 PM	yillusion	16
6 - Today at 05:26:49 PM	Antivoid	Null

Just notice the time of the received merits. The timing is strange! In 12 Minutes the user received altogether 20 merits  ::)
All these days he had nothing!!! Exchanging 16 merits with yillusion raise reall question that they may be alts to each other.

Notice the post quality of all these merited post and surprisingly all these merit exchanging is happening on [ANN][XAS] Asch | Decentralized Application Platform Based on Side-chain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2176697.0) thread!! It's the same thread that we had in case#3

Anyway I am going to red Trust Morphling (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1051747) and yillusion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1079092) believing they intentionally exchanged merits to each others perhaps they are alts.

Sending merits to Morphling nearly at the same time I believe ethbringer and Antivoid also has something to prove that they are not involved with abusing.

My response is...
1. I didn't know anything I was doing was against any rules, I thought your merits were your own and you could do whatever you wanted with them.  If that isn't the case then I have to plead ignorance and I sincerely wasn't aware of it.  I guess I have to look over the merit rules more in depth since everyone seems to be throwing a hissy fit.  I had other concerns at the time when merits were introduced and didn't really read much up on it.

2. I was contacted asking if someone could trade for my merits.  I said sure, why not.  Again I didn't have much interest in them so I got rid of them as my understanding was you're going to lose them at some point anyways.  Use them or lose them.  I've been on other forums with similar point systems where you could trade them without issue.

People are acting like it's some malicious plot, lol.  It's not that serious to me, I didn't honestly give it another thought until one of those guys sent me a message there was a thread about it.  Also OP should've messaged me too if it was such an issue, instead he decided to neg me without any communication.  What a real nice guy...

Like you mentioned The Pharmacist, there are a lot more serious things going on in the forum that people should be fighting against first.

Yes it seems to be unfair right now we are trying so hard to get merit points. If everyone is thinking about themselves then it will probably be wrekage to the forum rules. I think that forum should have to give equal chances to everyone. Why higher ranked members got the right of merit points to be distributed. Everyoneone may not be corrupted but some of them making the water of pool dirty. And new members are suffering of this.

Thank you for your response...

Ok I believed your story of ignorance and unawareness on the first one. Let me highlight something that you said...

And this person clearly is BarkingHawk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1115343). The BarkingHawk has proven guilty PERIOD


Merit bought on the table on January 25, 2018 and the first time one was really from your ignorance (https://prnt.sc/iuwfmr) since your sent it on January 26, 2018, 05:51:53 AM.

It clearly proves that it was from ignorance and unawareness. I'm ok with this because this is an innocent mistake.


Question is now...
 Since then to before sending the 2nd time (50 merits) on March 04, 2018, 01:31:31 AM (https://prnt.sc/iuwh46), do you really want me to believe your story?

From January 26, 2018, 11:57:18 AM (https://prnt.sc/iuwjl7) to before sending the 50 merits ( March 04, 2018, 01:31:31 AM (https://prnt.sc/iuwksa) ),
you made 102 - 32 = 70 (!) posts and exactly 36 days, 19 hours, 39 minutes and 38 seconds gone (https://prnt.sc/iuwokq) and you are saying you did not have much interest in them and your understanding was you're going to lose them at some point so you decided to trade them?

Being actively posting on the forum almost everyday you never came across with all these merit/smerit debates, conversations? Your ground is too weak to believe.

Truth is you saw money on the merits so you held them and may be still holding them hoping to trade these with some money. I think I still have my ground to keep the red trust.  (http://archive.is/Q5GRQ#selection-1011.0-1017.28) 

You are welcome to bring your facts to get rid of the red trust.

- Just imaging if I have to message all these users personally asking the causes then I would not be able to do others stuffs. Take it easy.

- I'm sure The Pharmacist did not mean to ignore merit abusing.

Listen up good mdayonliner.

First of all, you are not the staff, you are not Satoshi or anyone who started this forum.  You're just some guy wasting time on a power trip obsessing about some trivial new rules that joined the forum a few months ago.  I've been here for years involved in crypto, you are in no place to judge me or my intentions.  You really should be focusing on something more important than this with your life.  I don't really have to explain myself to you, but I will anyways to induldge anyone that is listening and might think this is something important, which it's not.

Again, I didn't even want these merits to begin with.  If they never existed and the forum never gave them to me that would've been just fine, I couldn't care less.  Because of this whole thing they're way more trouble that they're worth with everyone bitching and moaning.  "here have some free stuff but you can only use it in a certain way or you're in trouble!"  What joke, you can keep it then.  It was just something free that fell out of the sky like an airdrop that I got rid of, I don't want them and have none left now.  Even if I didn't have a high rank I would still be here discussing crypto and I would be involved in crypto.  This forum is here to discuss ideas and communicate with each other.  All the ranks and merits and blah blah is a bunch of superfluous nonsense, you're getting way too caught up on that.  You don't have these kinds of ranking systems on other communication platforms like telegram for example because they don't matter, the words and messages matter.

Yeah I noticed people using merits, but again I don't care so I didn't pay all that much attention.  I still didn't look into the rules deeply after that because it was a waste of my time.  It's some meaningless self validation junk such as likes on facebook or thumbs up on reddit, who gives a shit.  I did multiple trades because that's how he wanted it done, again I didn't think about it too much.  That's all the explanation that is necessary, nit picking every minute detail is some ocd level of obsession.

I stand by what I said in that PM I sent you, negging me is completely uncalled for.  I don't have any more merit left and I won't be using it again if I do get some more.  From what I see the system is heavily flawed and not worth participating in if it results in things like this that are wasting even more of my time.

The system is indeed abused by a lot of users who are forming their own secret clans to help each other.

It is enough just to look at the list of posts being merited to think, very often.. "WTF? This silly post deserves a merit?"

I am sorry to repeat here a concept that I have also expressed somewhere else, but in my opinion the ONLY solution to make sure that the quality of the posts is increased without giving all the power to do that to the members (who, as documented here are forming their own clans to help each other out) is a STRONGER, TOUGHER moderation.

A stronger moderation policy cannot be easily cheated.

All that is needed is something like "you post crap. I delete your post and give you a warning for doing it. After x warnings for the same reason (let's pretend it's maximum 4 warnings for posting crap) I ban your account PERMANENTLY".

As simple as that.

That would work much better as a deterrent than this absurd merit system whose power is left entirely in the hands of the members to happily abuse with and also it would not penalize newbies.

Just my two cents.

So this is how you are trying to play with me now? The fear game  :D
You know it's an old trick.

https://i.imgur.com/XMEwck9.png

You listen up moron,
Do you think me being in the forum a few months ago and you being here for years make a difference. Really!!!
What have you done for this forum all these years accept crying for signature campaigns to earn those shit useless coins most of the time? (http://archive.is/GLeGQ#selection-285.0-291.35)

LOL
I see there are a lot of discussions about crypto on your last 20 posts (http://archive.is/KLDsT) 

I see ideas from your last 20 posts again, lots of ideas, I am overloaded with ideas after reading all these posts.

Dude, listen gentlemanship advice...

You made the mistake.

Now, accept it that you got.

Nothing personal here and I have nothing to prove you as well.

Sigh.  You just don't get it, it's not some trickery.  I tried to explain my situation first and the PM was all about giving you a chance, one that you didn't even bother to give me before negging me.  Enjoy yours then if you can't be anything but rude, I never called you insulting names. You seem to lack basic comprehension of what I'm saying and compassion.

Again, you're judging me thinking you're somehow better because some of my posts don't meat your arbitrary high standards.  Then all almost 900 of my posts must be worthless right? Get off your high horse, what a joke.  Thinking I have to somehow prove myself to, you don't mean anything.  There are almost an endless string of actual spammers and crooked people on this forum and you're choosing to give me a hard time.  You're going to have a very difficult time here if this is how you choose to interact with people.

Enjoy your neg, I'm done talking to you.  If you have a problem with any of my actions report me to the moderators or staff next time as they're the ones who actually make the real decisions around here and not people like you trying to play their role.....poorly.

----------------
Lastly I'll say on the merit system in general, it's a poor format.  If moderation was what it is like on many other forums there wouldn't be a need for it at all.  There are so many things that happen here that generally don't at many other places.  I'm not sure why that is exactly, but it happens regardless.  Spammers are allowed to have free reign with little consquences, at other places they are banned very swiftly.  Places that deal with even more web traffic.  Moderation here needs to be way more harsh.  Crypto has exploded, surely it can't be because of understaffing.   Spend some money or something and hire more mods if that's the issue.  Spammers will get tired of making accounts if you're quick to get rid of them but I've seen almost nothing done in some many cases so they just do whatever they want.

I already explained all this in my other posts in this thread, you didn't read them.

What are you trying to explain for? As I can see, you're not a DT member so your negative feedback will not affect to him. Beside When I looked at your Merit summary, I can ensure that you're alt account of BarkingHawk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1115343) or you sold your Merit for him :). 75 Merit points for 2 old trash replies posted when Merit system even wasn't created yet? No need to explain about your Merit summary anymore cause everybody will know about it when they take a look at your Merit history.

Your explaination is useless :). I don't get anything from it except you're a merit seller or alt of BarkingHawk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1115343). Don't think that mdayonliner is wasting his time :). He's trying to improve this forum by detecting cheater and abuser whom are trying to take advantage of this forum to earn money to avoid this forum gonna be ruined, of course this is the thing Moderators and admin need cause they have so many things to do in this forum so they can't handle everthing at the same time. Don't worry, no need to explain anymore, you'll get what you deserve :)

"get what i deserve"?  What is wrong with you people?  You have some serious problems.  You act like because I didn't follow some stupid little new rule they just made up that I wasn't even aware of that it's the same like I ran over a bunch of kids with my car or something.  Oh that Sparky guy he is so evil.  lol, wow.

I'll make it simple, anyone negs me for this silly little episode and I'll neg you right back.  This whole thing is ridiculous and shouldnt've even gone this far.

You want to actually improve the forum?  Merit system won't do it.  Get the mods to ban and remove more posts like they do everywhere else, take reddit for exmaple.  Get more mods if there aren't enough, crypto made everyone rich and they can afford it.  This forum has the lowest moderation and highest spam of any I've ever been on, so many genuinely useless spammers get away with so much here that they wouldn't anywhere else.  That's how you solve it.  Playing small town merit police isn't the answer.

Rules of this forum were given by Theymos and this forum also was created by him. If you think it's stupid, why you still there? Merit system won't help improving this forum ??? I don't know what's happening with your mind :). It's preventing account farmer and shitposter in this forum. If you still complain about it, why don't you leave this forum? This isn't the only Bitcoin forum or you still want to stay here cause it's the only forum that you can earn money with? LOL. Stop explaining ;)

didn't satoshi create this forum...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0

Why would I or anyone for that matter leave this forum just because we don't like one part of it or some of the people here, that doesn't make any sense.  No place is perfect, mr passive aggressive.  If we've been here years through all the spammers and scammers a stupid little forum point system like merits is nothing in comparison.  The points don't matter, the ranks don't matter, the badges or any other nonsense doesn't matter.  We're here to communicate with each other about crypto and for better or worse this is the biggest and best place to get information about it.  That's all the matters in the end.

Anyways, I'm done.  This whole thing is spiralling into off topic land.

Greetings sir,

With regards on your report on my account(Bruce1614) and my cousin's account(Kirito1614) we're not an alternate account of a one person. We share the same internet and live under one roof. He tutor me on the system and help me out to work here on the forum. We decided to merit each other since he saw my comment commendable, so I did merit him too because of his commendabke replies. I hope this will be clear that we are not the same person. Nothing on the Rules says that company shant merit each other.  Great day!

Respectfully,
Bruce Narch.

Good job. Now it is the time for the moderators who want the proof of merit trading what you will do now the moderators.

Case#5

Rumhurius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=316540) and striker7334 2.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=377879)


Rumhurius's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/ivhbkf)

Received - Time	User	Sent - Time
41 - January 28, 2018, 12:32:58 AM	striker7334 2.0	50 - January 28, 2018, 12:27:56 AM
Null	bytemaster	50 - March 22, 2018, 12:27:36 AM
Null	Limx Dev	50 - March 23, 2018, 04:55:28 AM

Look at the timing of merit exchange with striker7334 2.0, received 50 merit at January 28, 2018, 12:27:56 AM and after 5 minutes sent 41 merits at January 28, 2018, 12:32:58 AM. Posts are this (https://prnt.sc/ivhhnp) and this (https://prnt.sc/ivhiaw). Clearly merit exchanged.

Also sending 50 merit each to bytemaster and is too much Limx Dev  :( These two user looks legit. May be they worth it. Not enough evidence that they will trade it. So I will keep them out of the equation.

I clearly see Rumhurius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=316540) and  striker7334 2.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=377879) are guilty for exchanging merit.

Of course merit matters and is a big deal. you are calling something as generous as merit system stupid. if you knew the alternative.


Still you have got money from something you'd call nonsense. if they were really nonsense, you wouldn't be here. points, badges, ranks they all matter. you are ungrateful.


Selling merits would make it difficult for everybody to communicate and exchange the information that matters.

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OP, that link in your signature 627% ROI, is telling me something else about you. if you are busting farmers, traders of merits, you are advertising a Ponzi in your signature. facking lol.

Yes, it is happening for sure and the admins are also taking strong action such members. Op did a great job by starting this thread and members reporting such cases must be encouraged. They are spending their precious time in finding the members abusing the merit system. Also, if we some sort of mechanism to automatically detect these abuses cases, it will also save time of all the members. For instance, notification being sent to a staff if more than 20 merits are sent for a one liner or content length less than certain number of words.

Why someone from the forum harness these things. It makes the place so much discomfortable for the newbies and junior members.
If these are the clear evidence then who is now going to stop this.
This is very unfair for everyone. For those who make quality post don't get any merit and some spammers got 100 of merits.

Really unfair? I think I got something really great from your Merit history. LOL. You're abusing merit system like all other cheaters in this forum. Thank to give me a chance to catch you ;). GOTCHA Jerry, I'm Tom :)
Account related:

Naitik (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1186891)
jerry29@ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1515739)

Abusing Merit system

Proof:

Naitik Merit summary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1186891)
jerry29@ Merit summary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1515739)
What a smart way to choose Facebook account link :)

https://scontent.fhan2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/28828282_1833822656630788_9183524179146754826_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeFO7jEWIdRwNlzfLVx8Rz7ZGdT2lkq9K6gVcEHWeEPiGzRj_QP-oLHxiJkG5ftnttpmQFghPLieeep1aWlZxvZzemdW10b37vdsnGf90ALfEw&oh=17cde565b143e00a980d928f74d5d4c6&oe=5B2E6B73

Case#6

Naitik (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1186891) and jerry29@ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1515739)
Screenshot for the record (https://prnt.sc/ivo27w)
Clearly Naitik (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1186891) and  jerry29@ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1515739) are guilty for exchanging merit, possible Atls.

Courtesy to ngavanngo22, thank you.

LOL. Don't mind about it, I also just want to improve this forum and make cheater and alt account stay away from this forum. I found out this one cause I'm attracted by his reply. LOL. Sometime we'll never know what we will get when we try. LOL. Merit system is a trap to find out all alt account in this forum :))

It is certainly a good idea but is it practical to implement ? I mean we already see the staff being busy handling those " Report to moderator" submissions and various other forum activities. Most of these are doing these voluntarily without getting any monetary compensation. It would be wrong to expect from them to work full time on this as they might be having jobs/businesses tp arrange their living expenses. Members do try to help sometimes by reporting cases but we need regular moderation.

Hey mdayonliner. I think you'll be very interested in this one :)). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=878336

I don't have enough proof to conclude that they're alt accounts but I think this is very weirdo when this Sr. Member send so many Merit points to other account with lower rank in just a short time.

If they're not alts then it has been bought which is equally untrustworthy behaviour.

Case#7
StallionMosquito (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=878336) - Sr. Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpbri), zohaibh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=765739) - Full Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpm4x), imrobo2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1062185) - Full Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpw5k)
network with => gmughals (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1625411) - Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpe95), ateebshaikh290 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1445276) - Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpen5), cheechu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1453078) - Member (https://prnt.sc/ivpl5d).

StallionMosquito's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/ivpx5g)

Received	User	Sent
3	zohaibh	2
1	cheechu	3
Null	gmughals	10
Null	ateebshaikh290	7

zohaibh's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/ivq07i)

Received	User	Sent
1	imrobo2	1
1	cheechu	4
2	StallionMosquito	3

imrobo2's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/ivq2d0)

Received	User	Sent
1	cheechu	4
1	zohaibh	1
Null	ateebshaikh290	2

Again considers these...
gmughals became a member thanks to StallionMosquito for 10 merits 10 times (https://prnt.sc/ivpdt2)
ateebshaikh290 became a member again thanks to StallionMosquito for 7/11 (https://prnt.sc/ivpgo2), imrobo2 2/11 (https://prnt.sc/ivpnp5), cheechu 2/11 (https://prnt.sc/ivpo30)
cheechu became a member and his merit sources StallionMosquito 3/12 (https://prnt.sc/ivpi0v), imrobo2 4/12 (https://prnt.sc/ivpj3k), zohaibh- 4/12 (https://prnt.sc/ivpjua), mantoo1 - 1/12 (https://prnt.sc/ivpk8f)

mantoo1 is out of equation because of not having enough evidence.

Clearly a we see a network in between StallionMosquito (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=878336), zohaibh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=765739), imrobo2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1062185), gmughals (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1625411), ateebshaikh290 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1445276), cheechu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1453078).
They are most provably alts to each others and abusing merits.

Big thanks to ngavanngo22 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg33045923#msg33045923) for finding the clue.

Case#8
NetFreak199 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=819793), visionary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=58779), chixka000 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=821846), identifyuser (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=227450), alexberezov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1066970), Rexxxem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=470139), jk9694 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=329576), dumbtool45 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=965234), number37 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=123202), blo8i  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=107826)


Ref:

Clearly these users are exchanging merits to each others: NetFreak199 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=819793), visionary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=58779), chixka000 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=821846), identifyuser (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=227450), alexberezov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1066970), Rexxxem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=470139), jk9694 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=329576), dumbtool45 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=965234), number37 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=123202), blo8i  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=107826)

This piece of work left wondering how on earth the author managed to collect 50 Merit.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1123153
Merit: 150
Sent in the last 120 days

    February 07, 2018, 08:47:20 PM: 10 to LBX for Re: ما هي عملة Ebch ومنصة CoinPulse القادمة وهل ينصح الدخو
    February 07, 2018, 01:11:40 AM: 18 to LBX for رايكم في مستقبل عملة zcoin
    January 28, 2018, 03:15:45 PM: 1 to hugeblack for متطلبات جديدة لترقية العضوية

Received in the last 120 days

    February 07, 2018, 01:13:15 AM: 20 from LBX for Re: يا اخواني ساعدوني
    February 07, 2018, 01:10:21 AM: 10 from LBX for Re: هل يجب اضافة كل توكين لمحفظة الاثيريوم
    February 07, 2018, 01:08:18 AM: 10 from LBX for Re: شروط الاستفادة من توكن WAVES ?
    February 07, 2018, 01:07:57 AM: 10 from LBX for Re: شروط الاستفادة من توكن WAVES ?

Case#9
big.pharaoh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1668614), mohamed reda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806787), LBX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=842041), hamade (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1123153) possible merit farmer.


hamade's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/iw5jl7)

Received	User	Sent
50	LBX	28
Null	hugeblack	1

LBX's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/iw5ky8)

Received	User	Sent
28	hamade	50
Null	misteid	2
Null	mohamed reda	3
Null	big.pharaoh	40
Null	ViulyOfficial	2
Null	Vladdirescu87	1
Null	GNEagle	1

mohamed reda: https://prnt.sc/iw5o4n

hugeblack, GNEagle, Vladdirescu87, ViulyOfficial, misteid may be out of equation.

But big.pharaoh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1668614), mohamed reda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806787), LBX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=842041), hamade (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1123153) are clearly exchanging merits with each others for personal gains.


Thank you TheQuin

If you clearly understood how merit works than you would not have made this thread, eventually account farmers/traders will run out of merit and it won't be possible to do.

I just hope that this merit thing is transferred over to the new fourm

If he can get any of them tagged red then there will be fewer spammers polluting the forum. That's got to make it worthwhile. Sure they'll run out of sMerit, but why not take the opportunity to get rid of a few of them?

Yes, we are  missing an important point related to merit abuse. It is good that genuine members are giving their time to find out remembers abusing the merit system and then reporting it but what about:

1) The merits which got wasted in the whole process. Is there anything being done to compensate for those merit points ? I am sure that the admin must have thought about creating a system in accordance with the number of merits required to be in circulation. Did he consider these abuses cases while panning that ?

2) Why not have some restriction related to the maximum number of merits allowed per post ?

He's been increasing the number of Merits available through the sources.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources


There is a restriction of a maximum 50 Merit that can be awarded by one account to another account per month.

Case#10
trumpman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947421), Flodner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1044164)

Clue: 34 merit sent today 26th march 2018 at 11:48:36 AM (https://prnt.sc/iwggpu)  from trumpman to Flodner for this topic (https://prnt.sc/iwghfe).


trumpman's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/iwgj3b)

Received	User	Sent
6	Flodner	34

Flodner's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/iwgjyw)

Received	User	Sent
1	RussiaCoinDotInfo	Null
1	Münzpräger	Null
2	sla1925	1
2	Ukraine2020	1
3	Topknotbam	Null
2	Direwolve735	3
34	trumpman	6

Nothing wrong so far with RussiaCoinDotInfo, Münzpräger, sla1925, Ukraine2020, Topknotbam, Direwolve735
However...
trumpman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947421) and Flodner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1044164) are doing something wrong.
Possibly alts or known to each others hence exchanging merits for nonsense reasons.

Going to tag them. Please read mdayonliner's Red Trust removal T&C (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3186068.0)

Case#11
xbiv2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1028652), JNiks_ZLisa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035718)


JNiks_ZLisa's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/iyw8fm)

Received	User	Sent
10	xbiv2	8

xbiv2: https://prnt.sc/iyw94s

No doubt both accounts (xbiv2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1028652), JNiks_ZLisa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1035718)) are exchanging merits to each others.

Case#12
mankeen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=680704), CryptoNine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1110568), Mr.Coinzer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=965370), SaaM78 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1146390)


mankeen's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/iyw8fm)

Received	User	Sent
30	Mr.Coinzer	Null
5	SaaM78	15
5	Belal	Null
1	YaseenMosa	Null
1	TheKingInYellow	Null
Null	CryptoNine	37

Mr.Coinzer: https://prnt.sc/j16z29 received 17 from CryptoNine sent 30 to mankeen
No doubt accounts (mankeen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=680704), CryptoNine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1110568), Mr.Coinzer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=965370)) are tricking the merit system, possible alts exchanging merits to accounts.

SaaM78: https://prnt.sc/j16ykw

SaaM78 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1146390)'s 5 and 15 merit exchanging with mankeen also questions SaaM78's account. Another possible alt of mankeen network.

Not enough evidence for for others or I have not much time to dig the rabbit hole of this network.

Ref: Below.

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I moved a part of the original post (below contents)for better formatting of the original post.

Case#1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg32773102#msg32773102)
Joe-Niner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1147769), BarkingHawk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1115343) and SparkyU (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=729995) should really have an explanation!!!  :o

Joe-Niner's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/itwh4a)

Received	User	Sent
15	BarkingHawk	4
4	BarkingHawk	7
26	BarkingHawk	2

Clearly exchanged with each others. Joe-Niner and BarkingHawk are guilty!

BarkingHawk's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/itwhu5)

Received	User	Sent
4	Joe-Niner	15
7	Joe-Niner	4
2	Joe-Niner	26
27	SparkyU	5
50	SparkyU	Not yet

SparkyU joined the game. Joe-Niner and BarkingHawk are already guilty!

SparkyU's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/itwi6y)

Received	User	Sent
5	BarkingHawk	27
Null	BarkingHawk	50
Null	theymos	3
1	Wolf Rainer	Null

SparkyU and BarkingHawk are connected with each others, and guilty obviously. Wolf Rainer and theymos is out of equation here

In summary Joe-Niner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1147769), BarkingHawk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1115343) and SparkyU (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=729995) clearly farmed merit for their personal interest.

Nowadays merit abusers are got smarter, mostly they do abuse their merit in local boards section because they know that it's hard to spot to the DT members and moderators their illegal activity here in the forum.
Thanks to the OP for helping eliminate those abusers here in the forum they obviously farming merit as what I have viewed in OP's report.

Keep up the good work. ;D
They are tagging already.

Appreciate your kind word BTCeminjas

This case is an example of what you said. I struggled a lot because of a language I do not understand. In case#13 I might find more users connected if I would understand the language.
PS: The analysts was done yesterday (15th April)

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Case#13
laogeyi123 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1957544), NeverArgueWithWF (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1825808), urz42409966 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1886502), huweiooo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1957573), shixd8899  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1289332)

Added on 16thApril: bluesky338 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1890612)


laogeyi123's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/j5llmu)

Received	User	Sent
10	NeverArgueWithWF	5

The 10 merits from NeverArgueWithWF gives 5 sMerits to laogeyi123, laogeyi123 gives this 5 sMerits to NeverArgueWithWF as merit.

Clearly laogeyi123 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1957544) and NeverArgueWithWF (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1825808) are farming their merits.

NeverArgueWithWF's very suspicious merit summary (https://prnt.sc/j5lov4)

Received	User	Sent
1	coly20032003	Null
1	moxl	Null
13	zhouyc	Null
3	huweiooo	5
7	loveyouforever	Null
50	tobeaj2mer01	Null
5	shixd8899	3
5	laogeyi123	10
Null	Lenor5.3090	5
Null	insultingo45271	5

Let's keep coly20032003 and moxl out of equation. May be receiving 1 merit from each of them is legit. I would give the benefit of the doubt.
Not sure about zhouyc but I will give this user another benefit of the doubt.
Because of this (Seems exchanging merit (https://prnt.sc/j5m3d1)) I could not give benefit of the doubt to huweiooo
Another benefit of the doubt goes to loveyouforever. Seems legit.
Although sending 17 and 33 merits (https://prnt.sc/j5mc9k) to two single post seems HUGE but for me it really is very hard to find anything wrong (although feeling wrong). So I will give benefit of the doubt.
Smelling bad about shixd8899 (https://prnt.sc/j5mera), may be it's a clean account but we will see.
I wonder why 5 merit sent to Lenor5.3090 for this one and half line post? (https://prnt.sc/j5mhto) I would not be surprise if it's not an ALT of NeverArgueWithWF. We do not have enough evidence so let's consider it off.
Same case like Lenor5.3090 for insultingo45271. 5 Merits for this post ??? (https://prnt.sc/j5mjiq) Not enough evidence so insultingo45271 off as well.
 
huweiooo's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/j5ml1e)

Received	User	Sent
2	pvni33280	Null
3	urz42409966	2
5	NeverArgueWithWF	3

Not enough connection for pvni33280 so lets consider it off.
urz42409966 seems innocent but connection with shixd8899 proves the connection (https://prnt.sc/j5mpcw)

shixd8899's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/j5muj3)

Received	User	Sent
1	ATB Coin	Null
20	xzhybbs	Null
10	hdd3go	Null
2	urz42409966	2
3	NeverArgueWithWF	5

One Merit for one line post, seems not ok (https://prnt.sc/j5mwxl) however we can not suspect anything about ATB Coin for sending this one merit.
10 merits for this?! (https://prnt.sc/j5mxza) hdd3go is off coz we do not have enough evidence.
10 (https://prnt.sc/j5myut) and 10 (https://prnt.sc/j5mzaj) merits for two lines comment really do not make proper sense. But again we do not have enough evidence for xzhybbs

urz42409966 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1886502), huweiooo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1957573), shixd8899  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1289332)and NeverArgueWithWF (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1825808) clearly connected

bluesky338 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1890612) is also a Merit abuser. See the merit history (https://prnt.sc/j5x72p).
  

Case#14

martina14 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1169245), anjho.ace (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1197849), gunhell16 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1101424) , cherryganda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108107) , kram31 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108094) , lovesybitz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=952731) ,
rockyfeller (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1182666) , shandiem14 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1262758) , benalexis12 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181576) , Viscera (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=118221) , vincentong17 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=969346) , jpoker272727 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=36641) , hackzang12 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1181563) , Bobby park (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1287061) , ivanst776
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=333242)
 
martina14 merit summary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1169245)

Received	User	Sent
10	anjho.ace (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1197849)	4
0	gunhell16 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1101424)	5

anjho.ace merit summary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1197849)

Received	User	Sent
0	martina14 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1169245)	10
1	cherryganda	10
4	kram31	10
0	gunhell16	15
1	lovesybitz	0
4	rockyfeller	0
1	shandiem14	0
2	benalexis12	0
10	Viscera	0
1	vincentong17	0
50	jpoker272727	0
10	ivanst776	0

If you go through everyone's merit a lot of farming has already taken please , i haven't submitted merit summary of all the users because on top all are interconnected hope it helps you there is one legendary , few hero's and many senior and full members if you want merit summary of all the users let me know i'll try adding few users daily


Edit - Screwed up the format big time but finally fixed it

Thanks max2607. I started investigating this network since you made this post. The network is so big that I got tired and took a day break. I will start investigating again later today and hopefully will red tag all.



PS: I will edit this post once my investigation done.

Kindly check this account.
opium (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939701), Kuala Lumpur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1167409)

Clue : 30 merit in total.

this is the list posts from Kuala Lumpur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1167409) merited by opium (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939701)
15 merit : January 25, 2018, 03:12:44 PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2375857.msg27150221#msg27150221)
11 merit : January 26, 2018, 03:13:10 PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2633490.msg27655027#msg27655027)
3 merit   : February 06, 2018, 01:30:18 PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2375857.msg29715389#msg29715389)
1 merit   : February 12, 2018, 06:38:10 AM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2255373.msg29923549#msg29923549)

Opium's Merit Sumary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=939701)

Received	User	Sent
9	Kuala Lumpur	30
1	maf81	null
1	andiko	1
4	Zoom2k	null
null	eprocent	4
null	WIND33	1

Kuala Lumpur's merit sumary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1167409)

Received	User	Sent
30	opium	9
2	Zoom2k	6

But for this account Zoom2k (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1158651) not sure is he involved or not.

I would add Zoom2k (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1158651) too with the network.

Case#15
Zoom2k (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1158651), opium (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939701), Kuala Lumpur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1167409)

   
zoom2k's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/j7pquo)

Received	User	Sent
6	Kuala Lumpur	2
Null	opium	4
Null	Sylon	1

Seems like Sylon is off here.

opium and Kuala Lumpur's investigation on the quoted topic below from Indohunter



Not enough evidence for andiko, eprocent, WIND33, maf81. So they are off from Opium investigation.

It's clear that Zoom2k (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1158651), opium (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=939701), Kuala Lumpur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1167409) connected with each others and exchanging merits in the posts which are not worthy of giving merits.

Thanks @Indohunter for helping me out in this investigation.

   macit800 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1300741)
Kalemder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487377)
BitcoinTurk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511692)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2947640.msg30279887#msg30279887 BitcoinTurk receive   macit800 (10), Kalemder (5)
gives: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=511692 gives 7 to Kalemder 3 to macit800

It seems to be an exchange of merits. Could you investigate? Because I could not tell if they are legitimate or if it is really an exchange of merits between them.

Case#16
musdafakfl (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1725368), macit800 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1300741), BitcoinTurk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511692), rasputincoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973393), onurgozupek (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=948010), mhanbostanci (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=434984), saulzaents (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944905), ozma03  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1198741), mstfprcn (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=915311), Kalemder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487377), krhnrhn (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=979690), HakanYAZICI  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=972035) and srmecdes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1199648)

   
BitcoinTurk's merit summary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=511692)

Received	User	Sent
1	torrentco	1
2	EFS	Null
1	altanbyz	Null
2	yussuf89	Null
1	2run	Null
1	ophyrim	Null
1	musdafakfl (https://prnt.sc/j8ya4i)	3
8	Euphrates	7
4	btcpara	3
1	Undermood	Null
8	Kalemder (https://prnt.sc/j8yb6r)	7
1	Aqualung89	Null
10 (https://prnt.sc/j8yc5d)	macit800 (https://prnt.sc/j8ycps)	3
3	gileri	Null
1	Wipro	Null
1	Dayan1	Null
2	Baser	Null
2	kimochidesh	Null
Null	fullypak	1
Null	hidrocop	1

Not enough evidence: torrentco, EFS, altanbyz, yussuf89, 2run, ophyrim, Euphrates (although good number of merit has be exchanged), btcpara (although good number of merit has be exchanged), Undermood, Aqualung89, Wipro, Dayan1, kimochidesh, fullypak, hidrocop,

Need investigation: gileri, Baser (Edit: looks like Baser is clean (https://prnt.sc/j8zw3c))

musdafakfl (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1725368), Kalemder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487377), macit800  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1300741)and BitcoinTurk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511692) surely exchanging merits with each others

Kalemder's merit summary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=487377)

Received	User	Sent
4	mstfprcn	2
6	rasputincoin (https://prnt.sc/j8y071)	21
1	delimavi	Null
4	udonmez	2
5	onurgozupek (https://prnt.sc/j8y1ps)	5
7	mhanbostanci (https://prnt.sc/j8y2si)	7
1	Suleiman the Magnificent	Null
10	saulzaents (https://prnt.sc/j8y3os)	10
7	BitcoinTurk (https://prnt.sc/j8y48p)	8
1	tesla80	Null
Null	ozma03 (https://prnt.sc/j8y5iv)	10 (https://prnt.sc/j8y4x9)
Null	CoolnQuiet	5

Not enough evidence: CoolnQuiet, delimavi, Suleiman the Magnificent, tesla80
Investigation needed: mstfprcn, udonmez

BitcoinTurk sent Kalemder several times in a same topic (https://prnt.sc/j8xvze). It can happen not finding enough topics to give merits to whenever have enough sMerits just send it to the same topic.

Looks like BitcoinTurk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511692) and Kalemder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487377), rasputincoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973393), onurgozupek (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=948010), mhanbostanci (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=434984), saulzaents (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944905), ozma03  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1198741)follows each others to exchange merits

rasputincoin's merit summary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=973393)

Received	User	Sent
7	mstfprcn (https://prnt.sc/j8ymjh)	7
21	Kalemder (https://prnt.sc/j8ymur)	6
8	krhnrhn (https://prnt.sc/j8yo1m)	7
2	udonmez	1
4	saulzaents (https://prnt.sc/j8yp8z)	4
1	Zz	Null
1	hasyurt	Null
3	HakanYAZICI (https://prnt.sc/j8yqjp)	3
1	hbcenk	Null

Not enough evidence: udonmez, Zz, hasyurt, hbcenk
Investigation needed: krhnrhn, saulzaents

Looks like rasputincoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973393), mstfprcn (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=915311), Kalemder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487377), krhnrhn (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=979690), saulzaents (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944905), HakanYAZICI  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=972035)follows each others to exchange merits

onurgozupek's merit summary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=948010)

Received	User	Sent
11	mstfprcn (https://prnt.sc/j8yvhr)	11
1	gvnsrbtc	Null
5	Kalemder (https://prnt.sc/j8yw8j)	5
4	Zz	Null
4	saulzaents	Null
1	EFS	Null
1	Emperor of Man	Null
Null	srmecdes (https://prnt.sc/j8yyhe)	16
Null	coinbergh	1
Null	srknbyr	3

Not enough evidence: gvnsrbtc, Zz, EFS, Emperor of Man, coinbergh, srknbyr
Investigation needed: mstfprcn, saulzaents, srmecdes

Looks like onurgozupek (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=948010), mstfprcn (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=915311), Kalemder  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487377)and srmecdes  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1199648)follows each others to exchange merits

gileri's merit summary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=935917)

Received	User	Sent
1	dannybrown	1
24	EFS	Null
2	mhanbostanci	Null
1	ingiltere	Null
2	cabsav	Null
1	2run	Null
1	MorpheWQ	Null
1	natureltiqqy	Null
3	by rallier	Null
2	Lydian	Null
1	numan8114	Null
1	bobita	Null
1	Whoisthelorax	Null
1	designerusa	Null
1	mstfprcn	Null
1	hhk1045	Null
1	dadas15	Null
2	temmuz	Null
1	Networkk	1
1	Zz	Null

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Not enough evidence: dannybrown, EFS (seems distributing merit to the local board), mhanbostanci, ingiltere, cabsav, 2run, MorpheWQ, natureltiqqy, by rallier, Lydian, numan8114, bobita, Whoisthelorax, designerusa, mstfprcn, hhk1045, dadas15, temmuz, Networkk, Zz,  

Seems like the user gileri is clean

Ok I really do not have any energy left for...

In summary musdafakfl (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1725368), macit800 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1300741), BitcoinTurk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511692), rasputincoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973393), onurgozupek (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=948010), mhanbostanci (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=434984), saulzaents (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=944905), ozma03  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1198741), mstfprcn (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=915311), Kalemder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487377), krhnrhn (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=979690), HakanYAZICI  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=972035) and srmecdes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1199648) and possibly others are abusing merit.

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Case#17

xtraelv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897509) and Lafu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=805820)

xtraelv's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/itxdb9)

Received	User	Sent
11	Lafu	19
20	cryptodevil	Null

xtraelv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897509) received 5 times total of 11 merits from Lafu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=805820) and in return 3 times he/she sent 19 merits to Lafu. Were there no one for xtraelv to send his sMerits?

I doubt they are not misusing their sMerits.

PS: From I decided not to tag anyone, too much heat to take for me. I will leave these evidence for the DT or mods.  

Hello sir, yes they are my friends and i was unaware about the merit distribution ad having some confusion about it thats why i merited them. I assure to not repeat the same mistake. accept my apologies.

Case#18

dance2009 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=932065), winterrose (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=832906), Big Game (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=961622) and valtin  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=819267)

valtin's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/jic094)

Received	User	Sent
40	winterrose	97
5	Big Game	Null

winterrose's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/jic2vh)

Received	User	Sent
97	valtin	40
Null	dance2009	10
Null	Big Game	25

Mega merit exchange in-between winterrose and valtin. Big Game is a common one for them.

Big Game's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/jic3al)

Received	User	Sent
Null	valtin	5
4	dance2009	2
25	winterrose	Null

So, winterrose, valtin and Big Game are connected. Now are seeing dance2009 as a common one in-between winterrose and Big Game

dance2009's merit summary (https://prnt.sc/jic5sp)

Received	User	Sent
2	Big Game	4
Null	cryptoMihail	1
10	winterrose	Null

Out of equation: cryptoMihail <=== Not enough evidence. May be clean.


No doubt that dance2009 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=932065), winterrose (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=832906), Big Game (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=961622) and valtin  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=819267)are exchanging merits for nothing but personal interest. Worse case is ALT to each others.

Nice job to catch all these merit abusers. I'd like to see guilty ones tagged and "their lives ruined" (local meme  ;D) So many cases of merits traders tags and yet they still shamelessly send 20-50 merits to alt accounts or buyer. God knows how many of those abusers are waiting for a right time to exchange merits when nobody looking.

Appreciate the feedback. I will be adding more soon.

https://i.imgur.com/C9JhXBd.png

https://i.imgur.com/jeMFnah.png


It would have been nice to know when someone tries to dob me in - for something that has a simple explaination. A message would have been a minimum courtesy.

If he had sent a simple message to me I would have offered an explaination. I didn't even know what "smerit " was until recently. Lafu helps out a lot of people on the forum. It said that smerits could expire in the future so I gave it to him. I didn't even know that he had given me merit until recently when I found out that merit existed. I don't even see what the big deal is. I couldn't care less about merit I receive.

The merits were given in accordance to the rules: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0)

https://i.imgur.com/OyPPhTe.png

It is likely that oneliner has some hidden agenda against me - perhaps even a sockpuppet or rent-a-troll of someone I have busted for running scams on bitcointalk or elsewhere.
Oh well - you got my attention - briefly - and now ignored, tagged and message blocked.

I don't negotiate with scammers and blackmailers and wear their reds with pride.

Lafu gives almost daily advise on bitcointalk  - I think I'm allowed to give merits for that. It even said not to keep them because they might expire.

Clearly not an alt since Lafu doesn't even live on the same continent as me.

The "contact me " and second chance T&C's looks like basic blackmail by a user that has no offical role on bitcointalk. I've tagged accordingly.

https://i.imgur.com/5hkAL8V.png

https://i.imgur.com/wPeCrTt.png

mdayonliner is endorsing giving merit away as "prizes" in a signature campaign and his signature is "for rent". How hypocritical is that ?

https://i.imgur.com/K9E8JZn.png

https://i.imgur.com/3zoVvD4.png

Case#19

mdayonliner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1432468) is endorsing giving merit away as "prizes" in a signature campaign and his signature is "for rent". Win $25 + 4 Merits every week! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3784164.0)

https://i.imgur.com/K9E8JZn.png

https://i.imgur.com/3zoVvD4.png


Here there is evidence that there is "merit abuse" by his alt account or "brother"

https://i.imgur.com/rkilvu1.png

https://i.imgur.com/my2og4F.jpg
Edited https://i.imgur.com/Jnge3sr.png / replaced previous image with error

https://i.imgur.com/jk64XXl.png

Most merit obtained from posting in threads with "merit" as the subject. (I probably even missed a few)

It is clear to me and others that "merit" is extremely important to you and that it is the motivation for some of your conduct.

https://i.imgur.com/RPD9T3w.png It shows motive

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4104852.msg38101744#msg38101744 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4104852.msg38101744#msg38101744)

The red is where merit was given and received from the same users or KNOWN alts / family.

Why do I care ? - normally I wouldn't.

But I am holding you to the standard that you are applying to others.

Do I think you exchanged merit  ? - yes I do. Not just with your brother. Just check the matching dates.

Do I think you are merit farming with targetted posts  ? - yes I do.

I've given you the same replies you give others. HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4019640.msg38046717#msg38046717)

It made you really angry and you haven't answered the accusations.

Why am I doing this ? To point out the hypocracy of your actions.

Just breath... Calm down mate. Here is an archive of your post (http://archive.is/lDEwB#selection-6049.0-6049.78). You already massed up my topic with all these quotes and images.

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I wish I could but there are so many cases I am investigating that I have actually no time to PM individuals asking for explanations. That's why I always leave the RedTrust removal link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3186068.0) on the tag I give.

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See? Wake up call! You woke up after my red trust. I guess you are so busy with self gain that since last Jan 24th to recently you had no clue?(!) I already laid out your excuses: [Parody] Merit translation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3390259.0). Your excuses are nothing new to me. Demn.... Just look at the merit history!

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Would you care to highlight your picks from the link you provided? Please do it.

10 for providing customer service https://prnt.sc/jjwniy
2 for providing another customer service https://prnt.sc/jjwnyx
7 for this https://prnt.sc/jjwo8a (?) Seriously?!!

This forum is not Cryptopia's customer service portal FYI.

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Sorry mate I don't even know you, my world does not circle around you at all LOL

- Seriously(!) Be my guest my friend. I will give you 24 hours of time to admit your mistake on my red trust removal topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3186068.0) or I will bring this issue in public and will take feedback from the community. You think I care about your red turst? The reason I will bring the issue in public to prove that I my ground is right and yours is wrong.

- Merit is not here to reward just because someone's advice is helpful for you.


- I have no interest whatsoever to blackmail anyone. You are living in your self created wrong concept.

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LOL you are living in a world where you do not have even a single clue that you are talking about.
Seriously mate, Did you even click the link (Joe's Signatureless Challenge: Win $25 + 4 Merits every week! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3784164.0))? Did you see the topic owner is me? LAMO.

Please please do little homework before proving someone wrong for something. Please.

Is there anything wrong? Come on!!!

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Anyway 24 hours (click for countdown (https://time.is/compare/1400_20_May_2018_in_GMT)) to admit your mistake or I will ask feedback from the community since I need to prove my ground is right to the community.

You seem to be a real ignoramus when it comes to acting as Sherlock.
So me giving 3 sMerit to a guy and receiving 1 from the same guy constitutes proof of Alt Account or family? Great, I won’t have to search for lost relatives since you’ll track them down for me.

Bloody hell, you could pass for the forum’s Torquemada and burn on the stakes most of the users, since many have at least sent and received from the same person a few measly merits to overtime.
Me and Tman, Me and Jet Cash, Me and Theymos, and a long list of other members  are all relatives or alts according to your basic criteria.

You’ve even got the proof images wrong, with repeated data on them. Just goes to show.

You should man-up, open a your own personal new thread, and report every user that has sent and received a single sMerit, since that is your primitive criteria with no second thoughts on how to detect feasible cases.

You are a flagrant case of a merit witch hunter for merits, which is fine by me, but as long as you get solid proof.

Seeing this, I propose to stop meriting witch hunts altogether…

The images are direct screenshots. No duplication.

Just re- read it:

where merit was given and received from the same users or KNOWN

I have no intention of being a merit hunter.

It was not me who started this. I do have my own thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4019640.msg38046717#msg38046717 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4019640.msg38046717#msg38046717)

I was accused (scroll up case 17).  I explained. I was ridiculed and given an ultimatum.

Then a thread dedicated to accusing me was made here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4031390.msg37915893#msg37915893 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4031390.msg37915893#msg37915893)
This is an illustration of how rediculous the whole thing is. That is my exact point. There are innocent explainations for people meriting each others posts.
You should be allowed to merit someone without fear of persecution if you think they deserve it.  Regardless of how it may look. regarteless of how someone else thinks whether it is meritable or not. (Unless it is just plain spam)

You understand my point ! It is rediculous. This thread is a witch hunt. An this  red trust removal topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3186068.0)  is beyond rediculous.

Ok, since you can’t find the error on your own screenshots, I’ll have to ease away the effort from you: check the “received in the last 120 days”. TXs between May 15th and May 10th are exact duplicates. See it now?

Bringing me into the discussion by being the most red marked in your post is, I can assure you, not going to help your case at all. I tend to be rather calm with situations, but this kind of gets on my nerves.

The now personal vendetta you have with other forum members should stay between you. If to defend your case you consider that dragging a third party by passer into the discussion is of any use, you’re wrong.
I actually glimpsed on previous days through parts of the accusations and replicas that you referenced. To be honest, I don’t really get my kicks from reading them and consider them childish as soon as the heat goes up, thus I stop reading them. The forum posts should be constructive and not a Peaky Blinders sidewalk fight.

Objectively, the problem is down to the following:
-   Account Farmers do exist.
-   Merit abusing does exists.
-   Both are difficult to prove, even if there are suspicious indicators.
-   Rule enforcement on account farming does exists (but I bet only 5% of the forum know which cases of alt accounts are valid and which prohibited).
-   No formal rules exist on Merit Abusing. Semi-formal steps may be taken in the shape of red tagging, but there is a contradiction between the (non) formal rules that don’t prohibit it explicitly, and the DTs which don’t have a clear guideline nor uniform criteria (I may be wrong here).
-   And then Merit has to be earned, being reporting suspicions cases one of the mechanisms, extending the initial course of action below DT level.

Formalizing rules and case set scenario guidelines, while difficult to elaborate, would help. Defending yourself by attacking others, and increasing font size doesn’t really.
There goes my lunch-break...

Leave this guy alone mate enjoy your lunch.
Someone with little common sense will understand what is really going on here, I already stopped responding his stupidities. There are intelligent people all over the forum few stupids like these accusers are just trying to mess up to cover up their mistakes.

Yes I see the error now. Two screenshots joined in the wrong place.

- I disagree with users getting tagged unless it is blatant and deliberate.
- I am sorry that you feel dragged into it. It is not my intention. The only person I'm trying to get to change is mdayonliner. But he just doesn't seem to get it.

- users should be notified and not quietly tagged and talked about without their knowledge.
- a thread rather than tagging the user in feedback. A polite message rather than ridicule. (Unless you want ridicule and abuse to be the standard of the forum)

- if there are going to be rules about it then it should be clearly stated when you place merit & before you place merit. Not some vague rules that are not even in the FAQ. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0) Topic: FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit

- RULES should be stated here:
https://i.imgur.com/O89qGaz.png

Theymos should ban every last one of these fucktards.

There are some people who came up clean and some admitted their mistakes from the list in my OP (I replaced their red trust with a neutral trust) however, I believe - from the rest, most of them are guilty. I hope theymos has the best thing in his mind. This is not the only topic, there are a lot of other topics from other good members who actually care about the forum. The worse part is, still a lot of these abusers are unnoticed. Every day we are seeing new style of merit abusing and they are getting caught. I see more and more members are coming forward and busting these merit abusers. I feel happy for them and I wish them good luck.

From my part, I am done here. I feel I already made decent amount of enemies because of this topic. They just don't like it. I am hatting the arguments (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4221113.msg40803752#msg40803752) I am having with people back and forth. I am tired of explaining others that I am a decent person and like to be always clean to myself.