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Title: Projects using "ANN thread bumping services" and how to stop them?
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on March 21, 2018, 09:36:51 AM
Reporting the ICO bumper accounts is not so efficient, since the procedure of creating new accounts is so easy and many bots are doing it already.
There where I come from we have a saying - To deal with the beast you have to chop his head off.
So to deal with all those accounts we have to go a little bit higher, we have to deal with the purchaser of the service. If there are more strict rules for those scammers (for me using such service means that you are doing some monkey business).
So instead of wasting time and energy let me know what to do to be more efficient?

Maybe little off topic but.
What about the projects and ANN threads that are actually paying for this service, we have to report them too?
For example on this page all the comments are from ICO bumpers.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2720181.3500
20 accounts on this page only.
Checking some of the accounts I see also another projects that are using this service.


Here are 17 accounts bumping the following ANNs:
[ANN] [ICO] SCRINIUM🔥 The future of portfolio investment (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2484536.0)
🚀[ANN] [ICO & BOUNTY] Edgecoin Education Revolution  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2720181)
[ANN] FLUENCE.AI – A Decentralized Database Network for Decentralized Internet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2744525.0)
ID                                                                                       Name
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1336048    Reduncecarel
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1336070   Inellynelint

~snip full list in the original comment~

I can probably list many more ANNs and couple of hundred accounts doing this. What will be the consequences then?


Title: Re: Projects using "ANN thread bumping services" and how to stop them?
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on March 21, 2018, 09:39:32 AM
I don't know if it sounds practical but if I had to come with a rule to stop this - I would simply want those threads moved to trashcan with a warning to not use ICOBumping services.However,an ICO can create a new thread but as soon as thread bumping is reported,they will be instantly moved to trashcan.


Title: Re: Projects using "ANN thread bumping services" and how to stop them?
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on March 21, 2018, 12:46:14 PM
I don't know if it sounds practical but if I had to come with a rule to stop this - I would simply want those threads moved to trashcan with a warning to not use ICOBumping services.However,an ICO can create a new thread but as soon as thread bumping is reported,they will be instantly moved to trashcan.

I do agree but since there are no defined rules for this I guess we have to make new ones or just let them be like now.


Title: Re: Projects using "ANN thread bumping services" and how to stop them?
Post by: qwk on March 21, 2018, 12:52:05 PM
I don't know if it sounds practical but if I had to come with a rule to stop this - I would simply want those threads moved to trashcan
move to trashcan
+ ban thread starter
+ ban bumpers

http://is1.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Video4/v4/6b/a8/8e/6ba88ee2-bbad-acc4-3b01-3e77f2d6e6ff/source/227x227bb.jpg
Hang 'em high!


Title: Re: Projects using "ANN thread bumping services" and how to stop them?
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on March 21, 2018, 01:08:26 PM

I would love to see it done, but in the mean time I have to know what to do. Now I list the bumpers in Joel_Jantsen's thread in hope to get them banned. I will start listing also the Projects using this service for further consideration.

This can also be a bit tricky, because if you want to ruin someone's else project then hiring a squad of bumpers can easily take down your competitors or the ones you don't like.


Title: Re: Projects using "ANN thread bumping services" and how to stop them?
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 21, 2018, 01:39:33 PM
OP can post them here - ICO SPAMMERS EXPOSED --> NEW SELF-MODERATED THREAD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2502431.0)

All the bumpers/those who were running this bumping service did get negative ratings. I am sure they got banned as well - because there is still no method to check whether a member is banned or not by regular members, mods can do that for us.


Title: Re: Projects using "ANN thread bumping services" and how to stop them?
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on March 21, 2018, 01:52:27 PM
OP can post them here - ICO SPAMMERS EXPOSED --> NEW SELF-MODERATED THREAD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2502431.0)

All the bumpers/those who were running this bumping service did get negative ratings. I am sure they got banned as well - because there is still no method to check whether a member is banned or not by regular members, mods can do that for us.

Thanks for this, I was asking what to do with the ANN threads, because this is also an issue.

Regarding the ban, you can actually check yourself, thanks to Vod.

Hello folks,

I there a way to check if someone is banned? I'm reporting a some ICO pumpers but I don't know if they are already banned.
Don't want to waste time on already reported accounts.
TY.

BPIP parses the modlog and keeps track on who has been autobanned and nuked, as well as how many threads/replies have been deleted.

example:
http://dev.martinlawrence.ca/bpip/profile.aspx?p=Ido_Liberdy

I just have the most recent info in there, but a friend is sending me some historical data I hope to populate this week.