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Title: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: quickie69 on March 22, 2018, 03:14:36 PM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: salterious on March 22, 2018, 04:04:10 PM
I don't know one person who said "I hate whales" as of yet and if they are screaming that, they clearly don't know what is happening here. Whales are our friends of course, it is best when we can go right alongside them to the moon :). As they saying goes "don't hate the player, hate the game".


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Leah38 on March 22, 2018, 06:17:02 PM
Good day! I don't hate whales. They are actually the once that keep the trades alive. If you can join the ride with them then you'll surely get more profits on trading. I've experienced to observe some of their live trades and it was a great experience!


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Enzo05 on March 22, 2018, 06:22:30 PM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)

I love whales in BTC because I know they pump digital currencies I hate dumpers not whales to be exact as most whales pump the price not to dump .


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: slaman29 on March 22, 2018, 06:32:49 PM
I suppose you have a point. All the lows blamed on the whales were just as effectively executed as all the highs, I guess we just forgot about them in all this despair. Of course, it would be nice if the whales told us what they were going to do, so we can all hitch on their tales and ride the same waves, but whales do their own thing. Years from now, we will have to start relying only on ourselves, the era of whales cannot go on too long. It's not healthy for the mainstream (that's us).


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: burdeN on March 22, 2018, 07:51:48 PM
too much attention to the world "whales". It's just people who have more money than a regular crypto investor. He spends more fiat on crypto, he risks more money but at the same time, his profits can be huge.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: pey on March 22, 2018, 08:09:19 PM
You miss this point there are whales much lesser than little fishes in the world, so lots of little fishes together has also relatively same effect on the market. But I know whales can manipulate and direct the market.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: wack slacker on March 22, 2018, 08:23:41 PM
Sharks, perhaps we should be grateful to them because they have created the market like today. They are factors that increase the value of the crypto. Without the shark, the whale market could not see Bitcoin hit at $20k and ETH hit the $1k3 threshold.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: omonuyak on March 22, 2018, 08:47:52 PM
After going through your post I just think different about this people that do pump and dump coins. The whales are the helper of the coins and most time after seeing a coins down for sometime we most time see a very serious pump that help people recover they loses.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: samtarly on March 22, 2018, 08:54:16 PM
They might be one of the reason for pump and dump of bitcoin's price but why would you hate them ? you can just simply follow their maneuvers in the market to stay profitable and besides there's a lot of reason that causes bitcoin's price to move.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: reflector on March 22, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)

Whales are probably check the merits of crypto currency usages and invest on it. There some illuminati and secret society groups works for pulling the bitcoin and other decentralized cryptos price. So we need to find the good whales who is having better understanding about it.
If you consider shit minded whales who is giving fake press release information, unwanted trolls about crypto currency and etc are not healthy for the cryptos and nothing.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: SPINPIX on March 22, 2018, 10:43:52 PM
you should not love whales, yeah they pumped up the prices in 2017 but don't forget that they bought very cheap back in the years and they will probabilty cash out in the future, i hope that will not be a fast thing because they can make a huge crash for the market, there are people out there with millions, this is not difficult for them


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: X-ray on March 22, 2018, 10:49:03 PM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)
That's indeed but in fact, the whales have a role in manipulating the market. When the trend was turning out to the bearish trend, and the whales are gonna make little shrimps were feeling panic.

Whales are controlling the market right now, how the majority of cryptocurrency can have the same or similar chart one to each other.

It looks like a bit ridiculous.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: cavaBcoin on March 22, 2018, 11:20:33 PM
I don't understand why many people that we should be thankful of whales for the price of any altcoin will not pump if no whales. Firstly, i want to say : "I hate whales" because they are trying to control the price of altcoins to get profitable for themselves, not for everybody. And this is a violation of the law. Secondly, whales pump and dump every coins which can control and this do we can know what is a good coin or bad coin. I used to see some bad coin which was whales pump, many newbie bought it and loss all their money after. I think whales generate bad view for crypto market.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: green547 on March 22, 2018, 11:40:18 PM
I have no problems with the whales I just feel bad for the idiots who fall for their tricks like fake sell and fake buy walls.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Inkdatar on March 22, 2018, 11:43:37 PM
Whales are the same as every investors. It just happen that they have more funds that us. I think the reason why other don't like whales that much is because they can manipulate the market. It might help the market pumped but what if they take advantage of the opportunity and sell it? Market will suddenly fall and small investors will be left hanging.
Given to the fact that whales do exists in the market by being manipulative on the value or volume of each coins. I dont hate whales because they are one of also the reason's why market are being active. They are the reasons of dump of the price.  If you can't ride them let it be, as you know you are safe with your investment.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: btctuxedo on March 23, 2018, 12:50:21 AM
I would be curious, who & why would anyone hate whales? They bring the volume to coins on the market & most of the time, they have the influence to help raise awareness on cryptocurrency. Just like the natural world, they're part of the cryptocurrency ecosystem, without them, this industry is going to be less lively.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Eddyc on March 23, 2018, 03:06:43 AM
In general everything is hierarchy as we are commenting and debating about the great ones will one day go debate about us, so Whales are a higher plateau because they are more time in market or hold of privileges, i see no harm in this, but an opportunity to learn by looking at their actions. In short do not have to feel angry at whales


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: ColdZerk on March 23, 2018, 05:26:00 AM
Remember - whales give us an opportunity to earn money with them, the main thing - you need to wait until whale`s pump come. Without whales, there would not be a good market.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: LeoEspansq on March 23, 2018, 06:23:00 AM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)
Whales are those who show us the real value of a particular coin. After all, they also initially risk, investing their capital to influence the market. Therefore, we must necessarily monitor their actions.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: DonFacundo on March 23, 2018, 06:39:11 AM
yes we should thankful to them we cannot earn money without them just join the play of whales, I know there are smart they can pump and they can dump the price if they want.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: hadveach on March 23, 2018, 06:48:51 AM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)
yes, I agree with you, because whales make bitcoin prices rise and high, what would happen if there is no whales? or what happens if whales sell all BTC? I think BTC and other altcoins will be destroyed, even become worthless.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Reset779 on March 23, 2018, 06:50:00 AM
People hate whales when they sell and crash the market.

People love whales when they buy and pump the market.

Circle of life. sings a whale song


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: sunsilk on March 23, 2018, 06:51:46 AM
That's true and there's no hate with that fact.

But they are also the reason why the market is being manipulated and we can't deny that if it wasn't for them, market cap will be low.

We are only thinking that the market is being done and moved by the whales but the power of majority is being forgotten as little investors.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: puremage111 on March 23, 2018, 06:56:23 AM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)

Yeah, i don't think whales is the problem in a market except pumping
I mean without whales, there wont be a huge injection of cash flow into the market. Without that huge injection of cash, the market awareness would be low. Thanks to them, they create tons of awareness for the industry


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: krayzie32 on March 23, 2018, 05:30:20 PM
I dont know i can say thank Whales or not but i think this is a truth of market and we have to accept. when the whale join the market, we cant do anything. The best way we can do is try to give your prediction and sell or hold based on trend


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: qazgroup on March 23, 2018, 07:19:10 PM
You are quite right in a sense, it does really impact the price if someone purchases big amounts of a coin, the price pumps up if the whales buys maximum sell wall.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: CryptoBuds on March 24, 2018, 07:05:00 PM
We must do the same things as whales. If we repeat their actions, then we can become whales)) You need to be able to benefit from any situation. I always try to take advantage of the fall of the market to buy strong alts at lows.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: faatipoke on March 24, 2018, 07:08:21 PM
who hates whales? Earning money is not about love and hate. We have to be realistic in order to profit from trading.

Whales decides when pump and dump and which coin. We need to swim alongside whales in order to earn profit and copy what they do and predict what they will do.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: kripto para on March 24, 2018, 07:11:55 PM
Yup, most of the times it is them who pump the currency and I've seen plenty of whales donate to the projects as well.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Agozyen on March 25, 2018, 03:10:17 AM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)

Whales are a part of the landscape.  It would be nice to be able to recognize when there is whale manipulation happening.  I've benefited from them, but in the end someone is left holding a bag somewhere.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Btcmaeng18 on March 25, 2018, 06:43:06 AM
You are quite right in a sense, it does really impact the price if someone purchases big amounts of a coin, the price pumps up if the whales buys maximum sell wall.

Yes big whales had a major role and impact at cryptocurrncies. We can have a hint or perspective if big whales are making a move at cryptocurrencies because it will create a massive movement of value price at the market. Absolutely big whales are good because it can helps us to earn higher if they invest same at our cryptocoins that we hodl. Basically if the supply is lower the more valuable cryptocoin is.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: greenclub09 on March 25, 2018, 07:17:00 AM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)
I agree thanks to whales, we have the chance to see to price of coins rise up, but this can lead to a very bad effect to the market, we can not predict exactly what will happens to the market, and surely when the whales dumps, they are the one who get more profit than anyone from collecting more coins, so as long as they hold a large amount of coins, there will be no safe place for small investors.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Yakult on March 25, 2018, 07:55:39 AM
Well, in sort of them buying lot to coins that is the only things not to hate them. They are investors just like any other. But the problem is when they start manipulating the market which makes the small investors unable to recover. They are part of this world so we should expect it.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: bird17 on March 25, 2018, 09:42:34 AM
Whales raise the price in the market only to make money on such as We, so the Whales are not exactly friends with ordinary people


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Indrawan77 on March 25, 2018, 10:15:51 AM
What you said make sense, , the one that hate whales is the investors that get trapped at the whales game and buy the coin at the peak price, if you know how to take opportunity from whale you can make alot of money, but some people are too greedy and blamed the whale when they lose money


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: BUK2016 on March 25, 2018, 10:28:15 AM
Well, the activities of Whales has both positive and negative effects on the people that hold bitcoin and that is why some people hate them particularly those that has the negative fair shares of their action. As you rightly said we all need not to hate them but like as what ever goes up must come down and vice verser.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: X-avier on March 25, 2018, 10:32:45 AM
Yes, these words are true, and I can not disagree with it! Whales give the chance to earn money every day, but take away from ordinary people much more.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: DeepChipolino on March 25, 2018, 01:34:45 PM
Everyone comes to the market to make money. Why should we hate them for what they earn? We also earn money from someone. The market is arranged this way. It's an acidic zone.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: baricuri on March 25, 2018, 01:57:47 PM
If you buy and hold a penny right at the whale pump, it's great to sell and benefit. But if they pump the price up and you buy then the price drops you will lose. At this point you will probably hate the whales a lot. I think investing in the Crypto market depends a lot on luck. That is my personal opinion.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: jacafbiz on March 25, 2018, 02:26:54 PM
Whales are market maker, anyone who doesn't understand the space is the one having a dig at them, what they are doing is illegal but since they keep removing their money from the space their influence is greatly missed. I think exchanges too play a part in this because they also allow bots to trigger orders which generate trading fee for them because their profit is based on this


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: lekam0213 on March 25, 2018, 03:04:21 PM
Good day! I don't hate whales. They are actually the once that keep the trades alive. If you can join the ride with them then you'll surely get more profits on trading. I've experienced to observe some of their live trades and it was a great experience!

I agree with you, we really need them but if you cannot afford to join the ride with them well atleast follow them to know exact time to get profit from trading.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: SerenW on March 25, 2018, 03:13:59 PM
No one hates whales except those who jumped into the market when the market was in bull run, and now they're bashing whales because of the drops. Now this is the perfect accumulation time to fill your bags as much as you can.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: dsaijz03 on March 25, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
whales are also traders like us, but they can affect the market when they enter into investment in a specific coin that they choose, surely that coin will eventually pump when they start to sell off their holdings in due time so better be thankful to them that we can ride along with them and earn along with them, but you have to be fully alert when they come and when they go. good thing we have them in this community they are our friends better not to hate them we can benefit from them.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: kristensoto on March 25, 2018, 03:55:29 PM
actually it would be great for us if whales to join us in cryptocurrencies market, thanks to them, we can have much chance to sell our coins at such a very high price, but anything too much is bad, because of too much whales, we can not predict exactly what will happen to the market, so we always loose profit or lost all everytime we trade.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: litepresence on March 25, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)

Why should we hate whales, they are also investors like us, But they are investors with huge funds so they can slightly manipulate and cryptomarket.
If they dump the value of bitcoin they will also pump its value too. When whales buy a coin its price usually pumps, as a small fund investors we should make use of situations and play accordingly.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Zagitta on March 25, 2018, 05:12:39 PM
You are right actually cause its the whales who make the crypto market so volatile and without them not many people would had been interested in the crypto currencies. The whales are driving adoption to the crypto markets.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Valekor on March 25, 2018, 06:14:05 PM
Lol long live whales then:)
What should we do with the whales that are running oil companies or bananas market for example? Cheer them to?


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: supine on March 25, 2018, 06:18:50 PM
I think no one hate whales, the reason why bitcoin is really profitable is because of whales pump and dump. Some people get easily shaken off whenever there's a massive dump. This is is good too because there will be lesser people who are just investing on bitcoin because of profit. Most people who are new in crypto lost a lot of money in the beginning of the year, and I doubt if those who invested during the ATH and dumped during the dip would still like to invest on bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Whales will also pump the price once again, so there's no total reason to hate them.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: ashaksagnis on March 25, 2018, 07:29:03 PM
I think no one hate whales, the reason why bitcoin is really profitable is because of whales pump and dump. Some people get easily shaken off whenever there's a massive dump. This is is good too because there will be lesser people who are just investing on bitcoin because of profit. Most people who are new in crypto lost a lot of money in the beginning of the year, and I doubt if those who invested during the ATH and dumped during the dip would still like to invest on bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Whales will also pump the price once again, so there's no total reason to hate them.

Totally agree. If there were no whales, then the Bitcoin value could be much lower now, or it could be inappropriate at all. So crypto market is not possible without whales


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Xenoblate on March 25, 2018, 08:12:29 PM
No one hates whales except those who jumped into the market when the market was in bull run, and now they're bashing whales because of the drops. Now this is the perfect accumulation time to fill your bags as much as you can.

I like the whales. They manipulate the price of Bitcoin Cash to so low so that I can buy more.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: thescimitarr on March 25, 2018, 08:13:53 PM
Give some time for correction and the prices will boom again soon. Or at least hope so


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: Streamlink on March 26, 2018, 06:20:17 AM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)
Indeed, big whales are very important. Though it is not very easy to digest that few people are controlling the direction of whole digital market but these guys make it possible for others to earn profits. They have remained the most important reason behind the fluctuation we witness in crypto currencies.Big selling outs help provide a chance to new investors. Besides, it is also not possible to have no rich guys when the coins are very attractive and beneficial.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: andrey755 on March 26, 2018, 09:08:17 AM
How to say, they make money on us but nevertheless without them the market would be in a state of stagnation. Most likely those who lost a lot of blame are them, because such is the human essence of looking for the guilty, and the rest are thankful for the actions.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: zoiapisya on March 26, 2018, 10:00:14 AM
Interesting idea. Personally, I, having made a loss-making transaction in the market, I blame myself first. I do not shift responsibility to someone else, to big players for example. This is a high-risk market, I fully understand this


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: v0nyu on March 26, 2018, 11:03:47 AM
If you buy and hold a penny right at the whale pump, it's great to sell and benefit. But if they pump the price up and you buy then the price drops you will lose. At this point you will probably hate the whales a lot. I think investing in the Crypto market depends a lot on luck. That is my personal opinion.
the point isn't about luck. i think to get profit in crypto depends on how you follow whale playing.
if you can follow whale, you'll get profit. but if you contrast from while you'll lose.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: withche.07 on March 26, 2018, 01:09:33 PM
I think I actually agree. They are the best players working in the market, not for only their wallets but also working on for coins. Whales turned all this into new kind of crypto business. They may be dangerous but they are here and we are luck with them.


Title: Re: We should be thankful of whales, not hate them
Post by: BagzMM on March 26, 2018, 01:54:21 PM
Please think about it. If it weren't for whales, prices wouldn't be pumped up. I purchased coins when they were near their highest and at least I have hope because I believe a plethora of whales can pump them back up sometime this year. Even if the project is a great project, there is no way we can expect the coin to rise in value unless there is mass adoption, which I don't see it anytime soon. So therefore, we should not fear whales but rather thank them.  ;)
Yeah we should be thankful to them as we are not here today if without them... the project will not survive without the money from those whales. Since they invest much money they should get their profits in returns. We just need to ride with their plans as not to get lose our funds.