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So,

I have an idea that i'm currently working on, but i need your input!

I see gambling sites that have a tone of concurrent users and it makes me wonder; why waste money playing a game that is programmed to run and pay out a certain way when you can play real games and have a real chance to actually EARN your pay out ?

Think CS:S, top players in each server at the end of a week get payed out but you have to pay a certain amount to buy in each week, 0.005 for example.
With saying that i can also run 'team' based matches, 2 organized teams set a bet amount and battle it out for the prize.

Now how about RuneScape; PVP'ing was always fun but why not have a BTC wallet linked to your account and for every kill you get you earn say 0.001 and the player killed looses 0.001.

Okay lets move onto games like DayZ; have a private server (hive) setup with a minimum buy in and for every PvP based kill you get you earn 0.001 as like the RuneScape server.

So now for the RTS fans; how about betting on live DOTA and LoL matches ?

Put simply, any game you think of, i will be able to integrate BTC betting in to it.

Soooo, thoughts ? ideas ? and most importantly! do i have support from you guys!?

Good idea, but it would be hard to implement unless you create the whole game yourself :)

To be honest any game worth integrating will be easy to manage (:

This has been tried before, I've forgotten the name of it but there was a game that ended up getting lots of hackers on it etc. and then it eventually shut down, you're going to have to have a serious look at security if you do something like this. You also need to take game balance account because if people are playing for money then they're definitely going to notice what's the most powerful weapon in the game etc. and then everyone will just end up using that.

Valid point and iv already made note of this, i have a few ways to improve security and a few methods to almost eliminate hackers.

In regards to over powered weapons; they can be managed and altered in the beta before we fully introduce the BTC's

Good idea, It would be fun if you use Bitcoin to buy guns in CS instead of cash...

like this?

http://www.leetcoin.com/

They only have 1 game and a really bad concept. But yes, like that.

What ever you do, start with a simple game that has a open source code base and keep the investment limit small. This will allow you to find bugs in your concept and discover errors in your design before they become big issues and everyone abandons it. And I agree with the person who said it would be hard to do without writing the game from scratch. The level of integration you would need for it to be secure would involve changes in the code of the game/game server not to mention validation that the players are not running their own version of the game code.

I like the idea, but a system would have to be put into place to stop 'veteran' members from preying upon and farming new members for BTC. The prime example of this is veteran DayZ players. They often take out mid-low geared players just because, and if they actually got real-world boosts from it, low-geared players would never be able to actually gear up.

Agreed, will need a ranking system with maybe limits to each rank to keep the games level.

Already been done. It's called leetcoin and there are tonnes of hackers and cheaters.

Check this game out... http://ancientbeast.com/

You can donate bitcoin... It would be awesome if you could bet on matches with it though.

I think it's a great idea if it can be implemented effectively. There are so many console games I've played competitively that I wish there was a way to make bets on them, online.

I think bitcoin could definitely help make something like this happen. There's probably a way for a third-party who hasn't made the games to do it. No idea of the legal implications though

This is a very nice idea but it will be almost impossible to implement. There will be hundreds of hackers. I don't think there is a single game that you can do this with that will not be hacked. It has been done on mine craft (bit vegas) but that is not pvp...

once you put in a ranking system and levels the game is finished, sorry but progression based games are always going to be imbalanced, it's a mathematical fact that gamers never seem willing to admit.

The idea looks promising, but it will be a really big project and you will need to put in lots of effort for development and maintenance.

Check this one out, not competitive... but minecraft for bitcoins.

http://minecraftcc.com/index.php?threads/get-paid-to-play-minecraft.4613/

good idea, but like others, i think this would be hard to implement/catch on

To be honest, hackers will be somewhat easy to manage/weed out, its how you manage and detect them that count, as well as how you payout.

With saying that, implementing BTC's into the games i have in mind wont be to hard to do or manage.

I have also seen this before, but like I said, it is not pvp. The owner just gives everyone money!

As long as players will want to play and bet in the game, why not.

It is like poker, there are BTC poker sites as well

Why would you invest your time on something odd/sketchy as gambling? People need to find legitimately clean reasons to spend their bitcoins.

It's also tricky trading things for BTC because of its volatility. So the price is very dynamic and people can come back and check if the price is different at that time of day or whatever.

Interesting ideas. If LOL were to accept BTC it would have another descent bump in value.

Soo how much interest do I have guys ?

I would play depending on the game... I'm into role playing and strategy. Playing bitfantasy.com right now.. :D 

Recommended games ? :)

Really need some more input into this, else i guess i may as well just scrap the idea.

Check out http://www.gambit.com They have made bitcoin based versions of board games...

I've been playing CS since 1.4... now i just feel old  :'( lol

anyways, I was taking a look at this:
https://partner.steamgames.com/documentation/community_data

and maybe something like this for security:
http://ucp-anticheat.org/

not sure what you would have on ESEA though(aside from being awesome and accepting BTC)  ;D

-Minty

PS- <<HEADSHOT>>   8)

Ok everybody keeps mentioning the problem of hackers, so what about games where its more difficult to hack, e.g. racing games. Would anyone be interested in winning BTC for winning a race of Extreme Tux Racer?  :)

Why do you think a racing game is harder to hack than an FPS?

Thanks for mentioning my game project. That's actually on our to-do list, not exactly sure how it will get implemented, but the idea was mentioned overall.
We need to get online multiplayer feature into the game first though. Ancient Beast is designed to be easy to learn, fun and extremely strategical, no luck based stuff.

duxZero, if you're interested in teaming up, we could get in touch pretty soon.

Awesome idea! Go for it

Go for it. Good idea.

Be able to handle hackers part.

Good luck.