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Title: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Enki369 on March 25, 2018, 08:41:04 AM
Without big investors there is no future!


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Enki369 on March 25, 2018, 08:51:46 AM
When Mt Gox start selling again BTC will go to about 6,300.
To win in this market is not easy
Tron is doing a pump with its insiders
Whales are up to their usual tricks
Tether can not be trusted!


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Brothersav on March 25, 2018, 08:54:18 AM
Without big investors there is no future!

What discussion are you trying to start here? Are you blanketing that all crypto is doomed because there are no big investors? What do you mean by big? Wall Street money? My friend this is less than a decade old. Imagine being a part of a decade old Wall Street. Patience my friend.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Enki369 on March 25, 2018, 08:56:48 AM
Without big investors there is no future!

What discussion are you trying to start here? Are you blanketing that all crypto is doomed because there are no big investors? What do you mean by big? Wall Street money? My friend this is less than a decade old. Imagine being a part of a decade old Wall Street. Patience my friend.

Did Wall Street have shit thrown at it everyday of the week when it started?


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: billyj111 on March 25, 2018, 08:57:58 AM
Without big investors there is no future!
Well of course that without big investors there is no future, it's logical, but who told you that there are no investors there, they already have and will still be joining it 100%


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Enki369 on March 25, 2018, 09:01:16 AM
Without big investors there is no future!
Well of course that without big investors there is no future, it's logical, but who told you that there are no investors there, they already have and will still be joining it 100%

I hope you are right but can’t see it at the moment


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: ELOCIN on March 25, 2018, 09:59:07 AM
Well I don't consider bitcoin and altcoins a fools paradise. In my case i can say bitcoin and other altcoins is a best investments than other kind of investments. Of course it will never happen that bitcoin will lost it's investors because all of them knows the work of bitcoin in the crypto market.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: francojon on March 25, 2018, 04:59:37 PM
That is a very negative and unfounded statement, all coins are worth a look and many of them have made many people a millionaire by now, ask them what they think.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: monalia on March 25, 2018, 05:15:34 PM
Without big investors there is no future!
Big investors are mainly supporting to crypto platform. Because it is related in blockchain technology so investors are major role in the crypto platform. But peoples supporting is the important role so we don't expect the whales in crypto market. All the peoples are understand the crypto technology in future so many changes are possible in the crypto platform.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: kevoh on March 25, 2018, 05:17:12 PM
Without big investors there is no future!
This in my opinion is a very myopic statement and often arises because we, the crypto enthusiasts, are more interested in the next coin that will do a x10 or x100 and not what benefits the project has to offer.



Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: rezurect on March 25, 2018, 05:18:05 PM
Another newbie who thinks he's smarter than everyone else. Nobody takes you seriously if you create dumb threads.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: invincible49 on March 25, 2018, 05:29:34 PM
Oh Seriously? Stop making stupid thread purely based on your assumptions. This is decentralized cryptocurrency you are talking about. Every big investor will try to stay behind the curtain. But for the past 2 or 3 years so many new enthusiast people with their projects, money are getting into this market, trying to make the blockchain technology a more useful for all of us. The market is now down but it is still so much higher than the same time of last year. You don't create a further FUD every time you see cryptocurrency market is doing a Wall Street.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: bigcash2011 on March 25, 2018, 05:36:18 PM
Its normal, we do see more and more of such posts in the bear markets, these are basically due to disappointment and negativity caused due to loss, but once bulls takeover allthese traders and investors start shouting to the moon and sky rocket like terms with joy. Lol.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: sunnydmd on March 25, 2018, 06:25:19 PM
I agree that market would never rise again if there's no big investor.
it would take lots of time for market to recovery.

but I think, cryptocurrency already prove that it has so much potential. just not stable yet.
it can never die.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: mariayaz on March 25, 2018, 06:29:26 PM
somehow agreed, all pump and dumps are due to big investors and without them market will take lots of time to grow.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: cryptomema on March 25, 2018, 06:36:20 PM
LOL we aint going to survive if these small investors come into our market? what a fool statement all of the investors arent going to be a communoty of they aint going to matter in the first place.Big investors does affect the market's movements but it doesnt mean the these millions of small investors wont make any difference.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: JohnMacZeppelin on March 25, 2018, 06:42:03 PM
I do not think that this is the correct opinion, of course I do not consider myself a fool, maybe the surrounding people think so, but I fully believe in the crypto currency, I think and I hope that people will think better and will be able to choose between the fiat money and digital, of course smart people are less than stupid, I do not argue, but of course you choose


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: nakamote on March 25, 2018, 06:43:23 PM
I presume that you are one of those fools who arent investing big amounts in cryptocurrencies,because if you are a big investors you wont be stating this.You shouldnt be worried about these bloodbaths because these investors are just waiting for some good entries in the market and so that they will maximize their profits,small investors will make difference when all of us are going to have a rhythm in the market.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: laracrofth on March 25, 2018, 06:44:00 PM
We already have rarther big market capitalization of alts, so we already have the future. The situation is tough now at all markets.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Taugami on March 25, 2018, 06:57:47 PM
There are big investors, there are many small investors. The krypto market is unlikely to die after what popularity it enjoys now after the success of bitcoin.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Bergiolia on March 26, 2018, 06:34:47 PM
Without big investors there is no future!

indeed, investors are the most important of each products.
think of it, the house without a person living or the land without farms, everything isn't useful.
Bitcoin and altcoins needs investors and the more investments will be poured in the demand will rise while the supply will be limited.
That's why the crypto market came into it's lower graph because investors are few and large numbers of investors are selling their assets.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: coinpricetoday on March 26, 2018, 06:49:02 PM
My thinking is also same when i am not in this crypto business but when i started i feel the power of blockchain.

When you will involve yourself then you will understand its importance.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: DanielRR1997 on March 26, 2018, 07:09:38 PM
Being no expert on the subject, I must suggest that the instantaneous nature of these transactions correlates with us placing a large amount of trust in technology. While the thought of banking becoming digitized is appealing, there is no guarantee that the long term success of bitcoin will be without serious risk. That being said, we put a lot of trust into our banks with our finances as they are today, so maybe it is a risk worth taking


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: 0xBitcoins on June 21, 2018, 07:36:05 AM
Without big investors there is no future!
Yeah, it’s true that there is no future without big investors pouring money in crypto market. The reason that not many institutions and companies are not investing in crypto currencies is due to the recent action of government against crypto currencies to regulate it. once the regulations are applied smoothly, big investors will get sign of confidence from the market and start investing money in it. Let all the FUD be over my friend, we will see big investors coming soon.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: nioctiB#1 on June 21, 2018, 07:44:42 AM
Without big investors there is no future!
This is what you say if you are only here in the market because of the profit and it is clear that you dont want to be here because of the technology and how can cryptocurrency improve financial and other type of system. Big investors just make the price go up but without them the market will still grow. It just need to have a mass adoption not whales that wants to manipulate the market.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: darmin on June 21, 2018, 08:00:31 AM
Without big investors there is no future!
estimates are that stupid. of course where there is a field that produces because there are investors in it. reasonable only if good crypto bitcoin and altcoin have large investors in it because it brings great results. of course, it would also be the great impact for small investors.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: stellgod on June 21, 2018, 08:13:08 AM
When Mt Gox start selling again BTC will go to about 6,300.
To win in this market is not easy
Tron is doing a pump with its insiders
Whales are up to their usual tricks
Tether can not be trusted!

As far as I know, Mt Gox is selling its BTC’s so that it could manipulate the market, make it crash and then again buy at lower rates which will skyrocket the price again therefore gaining significant profit and increasing its holding in BTC more. Tron won’t dump much for now, am sure about it as there is net test, main net launch and coin burn coming on 31st march, so I guess insiders will want to hold it too. I agree that USDT cannot be trusted because we don’t know by what institutions or banks or firms it is backed up by.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: ngochuyen0071 on June 21, 2018, 01:49:23 PM
All of us here are investors big or small still that's have impact in different digital currency market and if you think negative nothing gonna happen in that so better to find here the positive of crypto because when i read this is OP your post is like a fake news you only think of yourself,Moreover crypto is a good place that's why it run


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: azhariusman1981 on June 21, 2018, 02:00:05 PM
In my opinion BTC and ALTCOIN still have a good future, because in terms of trading there should not be someone to be a big investor, everyone who invests in cryptocurency are investors and traders, especially now people are interested in cryptocurency more and growing rapidly.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: ausbit on June 23, 2018, 05:41:14 AM
Oh Seriously? Stop making stupid thread purely based on your assumptions. This is decentralized cryptocurrency you are talking about. Every big investor will try to stay behind the curtain. But for the past 2 or 3 years so many new enthusiast people with their projects, money are getting into this market, trying to make the blockchain technology a more useful for all of us. The market is now down but it is still so much higher than the same time of last year. You don't create a further FUD every time you see cryptocurrency market is doing a Wall Street.
Indeed. Decentralized platform removes the need for third party interference from banks, financial firms, etc. therefore providing complete freedom of transactions. Big institutions will surely want to invest in Bitcoin and other altcoins not just as investment, but also as means to save taxes and hide money from banks and governments.

Many big investors like Facebook CEO, etc. have invested in bitcoin. Surely it will take time for more investors to come into crypto market, but it will happen eventually for who does not want secure and private transaction and have full control over it?


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: futile-resistance on June 23, 2018, 05:43:21 AM
LOL we aint going to survive if these small investors come into our market? what a fool statement all of the investors arent going to be a communoty of they aint going to matter in the first place.Big investors does affect the market's movements but it doesnt mean the these millions of small investors wont make any difference.
That’s true. Though, money coming in market from big investors and companies can prove quite beneficiary but it doesn’t really mean that number of small investors can’t make a difference. Bitcoin and other altcoins are held by people all over the world and not just by big investors.

The numbers of big investors are countable and their invested money can be limited, but think about number of small investors that will pop from every corner of the countries when mass adoption starts. The number will be uncountable and also the money they will pour will be small but limitless due to more number of investors and people (not in actual sense though).


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: sourish on June 23, 2018, 06:08:34 AM
That is some melodramatic doomsday call! A fools paradise or the future of the world, who can say at this moment, where one still feels the teething pains all over the world. As for investors, i think that is one given in any brilliant idea, so no need to worry there.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Hallmader on June 23, 2018, 06:13:18 AM
Without big investors there is no future!

While investors are indeed very important for Bitcoin and altcoins, especially for its sustained growth, I don't think investors are the only future now for both Bitcoin and altcoins. So far, we have seen how cryptocurrency has grown so huge with only a very small population in the world supporting. Do you think that cryptocurrency will die simply because the larger population is not anymore interested to invest? Of course not. The success of crypto right now is already fantastic.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Nidhi Bhatia on June 23, 2018, 06:20:04 AM
According to me, Bitcoin and Altcoin are the best thing in this world to invest your money and get lot of profit from this.  There are lot of investors in this market, who invest and make the ICO profitable.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Smitt on June 23, 2018, 06:29:30 AM
Yes, your opinion is right, everything business or investing course must have capital and without capital, we cannot act the same seems without investors to fund there will not be a growing business. As the current price of coins is declining due to a large number of coins selling and the lack of buyers in sales in the market. But in this case especially in the trading market, it is more influential to trading to make purchases and sales and this is what makes the factor increase or decrease in price. Currently we can only see and support the price increase and of course, if the price goes up then you can get profit.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: luutaek250 on June 23, 2018, 06:32:14 AM
not really, theres still future if theres no big investors because theres a lot of people invest small but if you put it all together (their investments) it can run the cryptocurrency world.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: BitcoinHodler on June 23, 2018, 06:43:52 AM
well if you think something doesn't have any usage, like if you think there is not millions of merchants that are accepting bitcoin then you are right it is a "fools paradise".

but again it raises another question. what are YOU doing here? ;)


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: mariayaz on June 23, 2018, 06:48:19 AM
Its not true because i have seen people who invested little amount in cryptocurrency and now have good portfolio. It all depends on your understanding of trade and where you are investing.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: iconoclast on June 23, 2018, 06:53:44 AM
Without big investors there is no future!

Sort of like that Bitcoinfuji you used to tout.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: UAE Seasider on June 23, 2018, 06:54:03 AM
The regulatory landscape is rapidly changing to be inclusive towards Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. What started off as a techno geeks only club is rapidly changing the way companies do business as they understand the advantages of a secure and distributed database system. Expect further advance in the next couple of years as adoption grows but I think the crypto space is just getting going and will blossom in the next 1 - 2 years.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: bagikoin on June 23, 2018, 06:56:07 AM
precisely because of this promising field for the future is better then a big investor there is in it. If this is indeed a paradise stupid so let alone while you can indeed produce.  big investors are indeed providing leverage to crypto, and other small investors are precise to be able to enjoy the results of it to the advantages they can get.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Lostan on June 23, 2018, 06:59:31 AM
Without big investors there is no future!

I agree with you, but last year's all-time high showed that small investors have pumped the price of Bitcoin.
Big investors will help crypto recover and get new highs


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Irvinn on June 23, 2018, 07:16:37 AM
Without big investors there is no future!
I do not think that for the future of the crypto currency, large investors are always needed, although with them it would be better. In addition, no one really knows whether they joined the crypto currency or not, the crypto currency is anonymous and not every big investor will disclose his investments in the crypto currency. The main thing here is the amount of funds raised, it is also important and the number of people who are involved in the crypto currency.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: masterrex on June 23, 2018, 07:19:34 AM
Without big investors there is no future!

I dont understand what your going through but  I really  don't agree when you say "BTC and ALTS a fools Paradise" in the first place why are you here in Crypto Space, it doesnt make sense at all ? Im following Crypto since 2014 and I witness how Bitcoin and Altcoin's Grow very rapidly as it was today way back 2014 the valuation againts the US$ dollars are quite lower comparing today like example Ethereum was price backed then at $2 look at Ethereum today it was $500 and reach $1200 ATH 2017... it was a classic example that Bitcoin and Altcoins are not Fools Paradise . it was determined by supply and demand.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: yeeyeyaya on June 23, 2018, 08:05:08 AM
Big investors mainly support crypto platform. Because it is related in blockchain technology so that investors play a big role in the crypto platform. I think all the coins are worth seeing and many of them have made many people into billionaires now. I can say that bitcoin and altcoin are the best investments than any other type of investment.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: rairaimotobike on June 24, 2018, 10:05:55 AM
In my opinion BTC and ALTCOIN still have a good future, because in terms of trading there should not be someone to be a big investor, everyone who invests in cryptocurency are investors and traders, especially now people are interested in cryptocurency more and growing rapidly.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: spastikss on June 24, 2018, 10:18:16 AM
Yes investors are very important for the development of this crypto world but they can not work with investors only. Investors only provide the resources needed for projects.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: aoluain on June 24, 2018, 10:22:23 AM
Without big investors there is no future!

Really? How did you come by this FACT?
I would rather see more small to medium investors rather than big investors,
a big investor will have more of an influence on the markets, i dont want that.

When Mt Gox start selling again BTC will go to about 6,300.
To win in this market is not easy
Tron is doing a pump with its insiders
Whales are up to their usual tricks
Tether can not be trusted!


To win in this market you have to play long rather than expecting your lambo
in 2018. Tron is just 1 coin in the top 100 and nobody cares about tether.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: warrior333 on June 24, 2018, 10:29:41 AM
Without big investors there is no future!
I do not agree with you. It seems to me that due to large investors we are now in such a situation. I'm ready to argue that the majority of bitcoin users are not investors. They are speculators. Everyone wants to buy cheaper and sell more. It turns out that the main goal is fiat. Investing is quite another.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Byzantium101 on June 24, 2018, 10:31:44 AM
I think that "big" investors are positioning themselves in the market cautiosly but firmly, no reason to panic.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: paramex on June 24, 2018, 03:34:29 PM
Without big investors there is no future!

As far as I'm concerned, I assume or say if bitcoin and altcoin are the best investments than any other type of investment. Of course, it will never happen that bitcoin will lose its investors because they all know bitcoin work in the crypto market and indeed if of course without big investors there is no future, it's logical, but who tells you that there are no investors there. Bitcoin will not lose its investors.



Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: funtistar on June 24, 2018, 06:38:12 PM
All of us here are investors big or small still that's have impact in different digital currency market and if you think negative nothing gonna happen in that so better to find here the positive of crypto because when i read this is OP your post is like a fake news you only think of yourself,Moreover crypto is a good place that's why it run


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: Parabellun1917 on June 24, 2018, 06:44:40 PM
Without big investors there is no future!
Silly affirmation. somehow still survived somehow.


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: 1l1l11ll1l on June 24, 2018, 06:48:39 PM
I still do not know what you're trying to say, but I think it's a statement that has a lack of foundation. how do you say there is no future whereas now many companies are going to implement blockchain


Title: Re: BTC and ALTS a fools paradise
Post by: sarul on June 24, 2018, 07:10:59 PM
Yes investors are very important for the development of this crypto world but they can not work with investors only. Investors only provide the resources needed for projects.
Yeah, of course. Even if there's big investor, but the project teammate doesn't not working professionally, the project will not gain succeed. Between investors and team projects are like each other needs.